>>24849224
>NTA but I don't hate Homer because he's polytheist I hate him because im a pseud and fail to take epics seriously in any level. People like to pretend Homer is deeper than he is and write this whole ass fucking mythos around his made up autist world he had in his head while clapping about like seals to his idealistic and quite frankly simplistic themes like "the misery of war", "even the heroes cannot deny fate", "dont be all angry it won't help" yada yada yada yaba daba doo. It's the same issue of people taking superhero comics or videogames way too seriously when sure, the themes are there, but they're usually relativly shallow and not that developed, and while Homer is way better than literally any other epic poet that's not a high bar whatsoever and his little fantasy world only makes them meaningless and harder to absorb when they have to share the same place as talking ogres and giant dogs
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>>24849224
>NTA but I don't hate Homer because he's polytheist I hate him because im a pseud and fail to take epics seriously in any level. People like to pretend Homer is deeper than he is and write this whole ass fucking mythos around his made up autist world he had in his head while clapping about like seals to his idealistic and quite frankly simplistic themes like "the misery of war", "even the heroes cannot deny fate", "dont be all angry it won't help" yada yada yada yaba daba doo. It's the same issue of people taking superhero comics or videogames way too seriously when sure, the themes are there, but they're usually relativly shallow and not that developed, and while Homer is way better than literally any other
epic poet that's not a high bar whatsoever and his little fantasy world only makes them meaningless and harder to absorb when they have to share the same place as talking ogres and giant dogs
>NTA but I don't hate Homer because he's polytheist I hate him because im a pseud and fail to take epics seriously in any level. People like to pretend Homer is deeper than he is and write this whole ass fucking mythos around his made up autist world he had in his head while clapping about like seals to his idealistic and quite frankly simplistic themes like "the misery of war", "even the heroes cannot deny fate", "dont be all angry it won't help" yada yada yada yaba daba doo. It's the same issue of people taking superhero comics or videogames way too seriously when sure, the themes are there, but they're usually relativly shallow and not that developed, and while Homer is way better than literally any other
epic poet that's not a high bar whatsoever and his little fantasy world only makes them meaningless and harder to absorb when they have to share the same place as talking ogres and giant dogs
>>24697831
>For all good poets, epic as well as lyric, compose their beautiful poems not by art, but because they are inspired and possessed. And as the Corybantian revellers when they dance are not in their right mind, so the lyric poets are not in their right mind when they are composing their beautiful strains: but when falling under the power of music and metre they are inspired and possessed; like Bacchic maidens who draw milk and honey from the rivers when they are under the influence of Dionysus but not when they are in their right mind. And the soul of the lyric poet does the same, as they themselves say; for they tell us that they bring songs from honeyed fountains, culling them out of the gardens and dells of the Muses; they, like the bees, winging their way from flower to flower. And this is true. For the poet is a light and winged and holy thing, and there is no invention in him until he has been inspired and is out of his senses, and the mind is no longer in him: when he has not attained to this state, he is powerless and is unable to utter his oracles. Many are the noble words in which poets speak concerning the actions of men; but like yourself when speaking about Homer, they do not speak of them by any rules of art: they are simply inspired to utter that to which the Muse impels them, and that only; and when inspired, one of them will make dithyrambs, another hymns of praise, another choral strains, another epic or iambic verses—and he who is good at one is not good at any other kind of verse: for not by art does the poet sing, but by power divine.
>For all good poets, epic as well as lyric, compose their beautiful poems not by art, but because they are inspired and possessed. And as the Corybantian revellers when they dance are not in their right mind, so the lyric poets are not in their right mind when they are composing their beautiful strains: but when falling under the power of music and metre they are inspired and possessed; like Bacchic maidens who draw milk and honey from the rivers when they are under the influence of Dionysus but not when they are in their right mind. And the soul of the lyric poet does the same, as they themselves say; for they tell us that they bring songs from honeyed fountains, culling them out of the gardens and dells of the Muses; they, like the bees, winging their way from flower to flower. And this is true. For the poet is a light and winged and holy thing, and there is no invention in him until he has been inspired and is out of his senses, and the mind is no longer in him: when he has not attained to this state, he is powerless and is unable to utter his oracles. Many are the noble words in which poets speak concerning the actions of men; but like yourself when speaking about Homer, they do not speak of them by any rules of art: they are simply inspired to utter that to which the Muse impels them, and that only; and when inspired, one of them will make dithyrambs, another hymns of praise, another choral strains, another epic or iambic verses—and he who is good at one is not good at any other kind of verse: for not by art does the poet sing, but by power divine.