CAn we all agree 11.5s are retarded memeshit though. Too long for a dedicated can, too loud without a can. If you need it that short you're probably blasting nogs from within 10 yards for a living anyway, which a 10.3 will do exceptionally well esp with gucci ammo even 55gr, and do just as good at distance with some 77gr TMK and be a much more convenient + shorter package for dedicated suppressed shooting. Muh 40% more dwell time who gives a fuck nigga lmao. Look at me w my cute 11.5 I can get hits at 600 yd with a red dot + mag on high contrast steel that was just painted lmao. Dumb barrel length honestly, 14.5 is the goat