>I don't think I've ever had one of my indies crash out over holo
Literally all of them do, it's just in private discords like the one Lucy's screenshots got leaked from. They know it'd be career suicide to publicly seethe over their success, so they do it in circlejerk discords where they can rile their fans into trying to shitting on Hololive and Holofans.
Meanwhile, the hologirls are actually achieving their dreams. Imagine wanting to keep GG and CC from achieving this, really just a sad lot in general, I'd honestly feel bad for liggers if they didn't do it to themselves with their insane, jealous seething.