>>76721291
>what about ab rollers, schizo bot?
reading comprehension bot?
>>76721248
>course - my whole point is that errything conventional, orthodox is leg raise when it comes to abs work, yes crunch and rope pulling - u are liftng thigh up or lifting other shit while leg is fixed be it from external factors - rope pulldown, or internal - flex of legs keeping em at certain orientation to pelvis - crunch
> ab roller
psoas roller, u get ur psoas rickrolled and u get no abs lol :D and fucked shoulders cause why not compound the injury rate - 2 birds one stone

what is the problem bot?
free abs:
>>76721215
>>76716163
>>>>>>>u need to do dragon flag but with legs completely folded in hips and knees to make iliopsoas ineffective, beyond it's capacity to do more hip flexion
>>>>>>>lift your knee up as high as it goes standing
>>>>>>>then bring your knee further in with your arms - that's the position u want legs in when u're holding pelvis off the floor (in dragon flag setup) with abs, cause iliopsoas can't do shit there
>>>>>>>and watch legs trying to flex as u do it - resist that urge - that's iliopsoas wanting to take over the resistance from abs
>>>>>>dragon flag, but with legs folded in knees and hips fully atop pelvis - it was that simple :D
>>>>>>i use 2 light dumbbells in outstretched arms as counterbalance moved past head, upper back and head on the floor
>>>>>it's a crunch but the other way around, and psoas can't work there cause there's too much slack in it because of angles in relevant joints bot :D

and no, none of your baseless threats will work bot :D thread goes till the very end - i will bump it twice a day as i am busy now, only u can "vanish" it