>>5056920
We're dealing with leftists here. They can fully convince themselves that if you aren't vegan you can morally have sex with animals and torture them to death for fun because it is ethically identical to eating meat. Hasan himself seems to have taken a position that would allow this ("since I eat meat, i am a hedonist. if my pleasure exceeds the animals suffering, nothing wrong has occurred" -paraphrased from hasan arguing with a vegan).

Yes, if you look it up, he actually believes animal abuse is morally right and that he has to because he isn't a vegan. None of his fans ever cared because they are also leftists.

You should read a book called "Demons", by a funny russian bearded guy. You'll understand what you're dealing with if you make it through the whole thing. These people are shigalovs, stepanovitches and stavrogins. They are not reasonable people.