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To add to that, they have the unfortunate timing of becoming the loudest and most cancerous during the birth of the fandom, so their early behavior kind of remains notable for that reason. I really think that's why the hate has stuck around for so long despite Charlastor shippers now being one of the chillest parts of the fandom. It's incredibly unfair and it appears that Viv still holds a grudge even though there are far more notably annoying shipper bases nowadays