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>>713318705
Monsters with any significant quantity of Determination melt. Monsters have enough to hold their SOUL together and that's it.
Undyne starts melting from simply summoning the will to hold her body together and live on for a few more minutes.
I find it extremely difficult to believe that creating an entire fantasy world does not require any significant quantity of Determination. There is no difference between the Fountain that Kris creates and the one that Susie creates. The Knight, who is a Lightner, and almost certainly a monster (specifically Dess Holiday) apparently summons far more Determination when we see them make a much larger and more spectacular Fountain.
I doubt that Queen invoking the term Determination meant absolutely nothing of significance.
>>713319063
>Contradicted by the bunny
Valuing a question asked by a small child more than physical evidence of a monster bleeding you see with your own eyes is not a serious position
>You don't just get to say, "The rules from Undertale don't apply here- except this one."
I don't have to say that, because Toby Fox already did.
Monsters with any significant quantity of Determination melt. Monsters have enough to hold their SOUL together and that's it.
Undyne starts melting from simply summoning the will to hold her body together and live on for a few more minutes.
I find it extremely difficult to believe that creating an entire fantasy world does not require any significant quantity of Determination. There is no difference between the Fountain that Kris creates and the one that Susie creates. The Knight, who is a Lightner, and almost certainly a monster (specifically Dess Holiday) apparently summons far more Determination when we see them make a much larger and more spectacular Fountain.
I doubt that Queen invoking the term Determination meant absolutely nothing of significance.
>>713319063
>Contradicted by the bunny
Valuing a question asked by a small child more than physical evidence of a monster bleeding you see with your own eyes is not a serious position
>You don't just get to say, "The rules from Undertale don't apply here- except this one."
I don't have to say that, because Toby Fox already did.
>>713071017
>It's easier to assume that the game isn't giving you false information
It didn't lie to you, you made an assumption based on an ambiguously meaningful line in Chapter 1 which plays on your expectations from Undertale from start to finish
>I think Susie bleeding is explained more easily by her being half-human
There's zero indication that such a thing is possible and plenty of reason to think it wouldn't be.
What we do know is that Susie is stated to be a monster and bleeds when she is cut.
>rather than some arbitrary rule that makes it so that deltarune monsters do bleed but also fall down and turn into dust.
There's no evidence that monsters in Deltarune "fall down" either. That term hasn't been mentioned once, and every monster known to have "fallen down" in Undertale is either already dead or suffering from some mundane illness like Rudy.
Every change in "the rules" between Undertale and Deltarune is arbitrary and we already know that they have been changed, because we know that Deltarune monsters have Determination. We know this because we're told it by Queen, it goes unchallenged by Ralsei or anyone else who would know, and we see and know that monsters can perform an action that requires Determination (creating a Dark Fountain) without melting as they would if they were made of dust and magic like Undertale.
The alternative to "monsters bleed but turn to dust anyway" is that the "dust" in Deltarune is just a euphemism for cremation ashes, but that just seems like a cheap trick and I'd rather have "they still turn to dust because Toby knows it's a cool idea."
>>713071029
>since you'd have to explain why only some monsters bleed
Monsters that ought to bleed bleed, like dragons and skeletons.
Monsters that wouldn't bleed don't, like ghosts or fire elementals.
>It's easier to assume that the game isn't giving you false information
It didn't lie to you, you made an assumption based on an ambiguously meaningful line in Chapter 1 which plays on your expectations from Undertale from start to finish
>I think Susie bleeding is explained more easily by her being half-human
There's zero indication that such a thing is possible and plenty of reason to think it wouldn't be.
What we do know is that Susie is stated to be a monster and bleeds when she is cut.
>rather than some arbitrary rule that makes it so that deltarune monsters do bleed but also fall down and turn into dust.
There's no evidence that monsters in Deltarune "fall down" either. That term hasn't been mentioned once, and every monster known to have "fallen down" in Undertale is either already dead or suffering from some mundane illness like Rudy.
Every change in "the rules" between Undertale and Deltarune is arbitrary and we already know that they have been changed, because we know that Deltarune monsters have Determination. We know this because we're told it by Queen, it goes unchallenged by Ralsei or anyone else who would know, and we see and know that monsters can perform an action that requires Determination (creating a Dark Fountain) without melting as they would if they were made of dust and magic like Undertale.
The alternative to "monsters bleed but turn to dust anyway" is that the "dust" in Deltarune is just a euphemism for cremation ashes, but that just seems like a cheap trick and I'd rather have "they still turn to dust because Toby knows it's a cool idea."
>>713071029
>since you'd have to explain why only some monsters bleed
Monsters that ought to bleed bleed, like dragons and skeletons.
Monsters that wouldn't bleed don't, like ghosts or fire elementals.