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>>18144344
>Again, transubstantiation and real presence are not the same thing. We affirm the real presence
No, you don't. You affirm a "spiritual presence," which is a weasel-word for "real absence." Stop trying to steal our terminology.
>Why didn't the medieval church burn the leftover bread? Why did they instead place them in monstrances, tabernacles etc.
You just stumbled into the concept of Doctrinal Development, you absolute moron.
The belief never changed. The devotional expression of that belief developed in response to heretics like you.
The Ancient Church revered the Host. They took it home for private communion. St. Cyril told people to receive it with more care than gold. The practice of "burning" it was an act of profound reverence to ensure it was never profaned.
The practice of Adoration, tabernacles, and processions developed specifically to defend the ancient, Apostolic belief in the Real Presence against heretics like Berengar of Tours in the 11th century who started peddling your "symbolic" nonsense.
The development of Adoration is the ultimate proof that the Church always held the Catholic belief. Your argument is like saying "The 1st-century Church met in houses, but the 4th-century Church built basilicas, so they must have worshipped a different God."
You have lost every single point. You have no argument, no history, and no understanding of theology. All you have is Philip Schaff. Cope.
>>18144344
>Again, transubstantiation and real presence are not the same thing. We affirm the real presence
No, you don't. You affirm a "spiritual presence," which is a weasel-word for "real absence." Stop trying to steal our terminology.
>Why didn't the medieval church burn the leftover bread? Why did they instead place them in monstrances, tabernacles etc.
You just stumbled into the concept of Doctrinal Development, you absolute moron.
The belief never changed. The devotional expression of that belief developed in response to heretics like you.
The Ancient Church revered the Host. They took it home for private communion. St. Cyril told people to receive it with more care than gold. The practice of "burning" it was an act of profound reverence to ensure it was never profaned.
The practice of Adoration, tabernacles, and processions developed specifically to defend the ancient, Apostolic belief in the Real Presence against heretics like Berengar of Tours in the 11th century who started peddling your "symbolic" nonsense.
The development of Adoration is the ultimate proof that the Church always held the Catholic belief. Your argument is like saying "The 1st-century Church met in houses, but the 4th-century Church built basilicas, so they must have worshipped a different God."
You have lost every single point. You have no argument, no history, and no understanding of theology. All you have is Philip Schaff. Cope.
It was believed that souls lingered after dying, trying to reenter the body and left after 3 days with the onset of putrefaction. The is why Jesus specifically raised Lazarus 4 days after his death. He was showing He had authority beyond mere necromancy by bringing his soul back from its distant resting place.
3 days also fits many Old Testament typologies, like Jonah for example.
3 days also fits many Old Testament typologies, like Jonah for example.