>>82447337
>you can point out societies that have heavy "shame" cultures that aren't suffering from overpopulation.
That depends on your definition of overpopulation.
>There were like 18 million people in Japan in the 1600s
That is still well above Japan's natural carrying capacity in terms of farmland. There is a reason why Japan always conquers it's neighbors when left alone without ZOGfluence.
