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People will call it concern trolling but you are just staring reality in the face at this point. Musk's actions were always incongruent with his claims. Watch early interviews from the 2002 to 2011 era. Musk would always claim that as soon as they were capable SpaceX would send capsules to Mars using their own money. He was quite clear that they would take the financial impact even in the complete absence of NASA support. He called it a philanthropic mission.
The fact is that Falcon 9 was already capable of sending small missions to Mars if they purchased or developed a kick stage. But early Falcon era SpaceX was pretty small and had low cadence. The excuse was that they were waiting to suceedwithbooster catch efore sending Mars misisons.
Then Booster catch worked and cadence began to go up, but the excuse was that they were always waiting for Falcon Heavy.
Then Falcon Heavy came but the excuse was... Muh JPL?..
Fast forward to today and SpaceX has had the ability to send significant mass to Mars for nearly a decade through Falcon Heavy. Need I remind you guys that Musk is extremely rich and could have easily lobbied the government to allow him todo it if that was really ever a barrier (it wasn't). How many missions have they sent?
Elon OWNED the government recently and made no effort to greenlight Mars missions.
And as you guys say, Starship is clearly not meant for Mars. There is absolutely no work going on to make it fit for that, and zero work on the wider goal of human habitation of Mars. Something was always fishy and now it stinks. I always knew Tesla was a scam, but thought it was a moral scam because he was using the money to fund Mars colonization.
Maybe he was scamming us all along too.