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Bro, I might have changed my mind again! I really like the 12-gauge short shells. I had been watching a lot of videos on them. I just really love that increased capacity. I would love to have nine rounds over six. I have not been able to find any testimonies about how the short shells compare to .410 shells. In terms of recoil, they also hold my more pellets than I thought! Not as my shell variety as .410, but the power output and capacity are very alluring. The .410 is also a bit cheaper than the "C" (? or "G"). It might be worth it! I will slip (? or sleep) on it and ponder some more. 12-gauge is also my more prevelent for parts and accessories. I wish I could try a .410 and 12-gauge ban to ban (?? or buy to buy, or maybe one to one, hard to read). so I can feel out the recoil. No matter what gauge you pick, forget about using any birdshot at all. All the videos how it doing minimal damage, underpenetrating, and just being worse for killing humans all around. Buckshot and maybe sime slugs (?) for extra fun!