>>514955535
>What peace terms wouldn’t register as capitulation in your eyes?
Ukraine has credible deterrence
>By what means could Ukraine compel Russia to accept such peace?
Having allies that don't speak of concessions *before* the retarded oafs even enter the "negotiations" for one
It's mostly a theoretical debate since this isn't the world we live in
American governance and western democracies are in decline due to decades of neoliberal corruption and deformation of economy and society.
And even amidst this, something like a kamala admin would at least not be so arrogant as to decide and speak on what parts of Ukraine within the internationally recognized borders of Ukraine are actually "russian".
The trump administration is even worse for Ukraine than a do-nothing-democrat kamala administration would have been and that was well-telegraphed from everything trump did before and has done since becoming president.
You fail to acknowledge even this simple truth, regardless of your other retarded delusions about what else trump is going to do, achieve, destroy or represent.
You can fuck off to /ptg/, I don't care for your trumpsucking there
However the trump admin is unequivocally a negative situation for Ukraines fight for peace, freedom and independence.
It is your dogged jew-like insistence that I shall not believe my lying eyes about this fact that pisses me off.
