>>513981788
since you are not hotheaded, you can have a normal conversation about this subject, and it would be okay to emphasize to president trump that putin has failed in all his strategic goals.
- he unified europe.
- he expanded nato to include finland and sweden. he practically brought us into nato.
- he effectively raised nato's defense spending from 2% to 5%.
- if I look at territorial conquests, he has been trying to conquer Donetsk for 12 years, of which he gained 50% before the war started, and on the battlefield he has advanced 25% over the last 12 years.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/how-much-territory-does-russia-control-ukraine-2025-08-14/ 75% of the Donetsk region. August 15, 2025
practically none of the goals that Putin set for himself in this special operation have been achieved.
this is perhaps the greatest strategic geopolitical failure in recent history.
as a bonus, 700k russians have died and wounded, as have ukrainians, and as russians count ukraine and ukrainians as truly russians, that means 1.4million russians have died and wounded by the order of putin in ultimately meaningless civil war.
