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>but its not and its what people have a problem with
People shit on the games more for being associated with the Fallout brand and comparing them to previous games and barely actually judge the games on their own merits as video games. If you don’t have your head in the constant bandwagon zeitgeist you notice many lifelong RPG gamers enjoyed the Bethesda Fallouts when they know nothing about the franchise and nothing to judge them against, as intended, but the people who are want to view them as direct continuity for the franchise and greater RPG genre are incapable of seeing them in a vacuum on their own merits. People will cry about it being only normies in the former group but this has always been a lie, and enough people liked Fallout 3 and 4 that it became a cultural phenomenon while still being niche enough the TV show was now the vast majority of people’s first awareness of the franchise.
The 40k mention is because modern 40k looks and feels nothing like Rogue Trader and has none of the same writers or creators involved, even in 1998 and the dawn of forums it was already a complete re-imagining that rewrote all the vibe, tone and lore, but it was more popular than the original vision of 1st edition and people were fine with that.

It’s only an extremely loud minority who care about the modern state of Fallout and make retarded webms about how it’s a “mockery of our cultur” or whatever but completely ignore the fans who do still like it and come up with 99999 reasons why Sawyer or Tim Cain or Gonzalez, or any of the FO1-Van Buren devs liking modern Fallout as irrelevant, while cherry picking Chris Avellone as the only one true relevant voice now because he didn’t totally care for it despite vocally not hating it.
If you can’t judge the media on its own merits detached from a serialization and brand, then you aren’t really interacting with it honestly.