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> Making a new (good) /b/ Anonymous ## Janitor 06/25/21(Fri)12:17:46 No.7977▶>>7978 >>7979 >>7980
>Judging by the massive percentage of off-topic reports on every major board, it's clear that people want a place to say is on their mind, but also feel like the current avenues for this (/b/, /r9k/, [s4s], /bant/, /qa/) aren't good enough. And I get it. Those boards are actually used for a pretty narrow set of things: /b/ is for porn, /r9k/ for relationships, [s4s] and /bant/ for... whatever it is they do, and /qa/ for schizoposting. So if you make a thread unrelated to what's popular there, it's not going to get replies. If there were a genuinely good board for discussing any random thing, I'm sure most off topic reports would disappear. The question is, do you think it's possible?
>I think most importantly here, it has to be SFW. But to prevent it from becoming like /qa/, there would also have to be some level of quality control. And this is the hard part. No one wants to post on a board that's 90% basedjaks, but how do you stop it? Would you just ban basedjaks? Maybe in the short term it works, but people will find something else to force, and you can't just keep adding new stuff to the blacklist. But you know, basedjaks and schizoposting already count as rule 6 violations, so without even changing any rules or making a new board, we could clean /qa/ up so that people are incentivized to post there instead of making off-topic posts all across the site. Just get a few janitors willing to enforce this and the other global rules, and it should be fine.
>What do you think? A lot of people dislike /qa/ because there's almost nothing but schizo spam, but if we clean it up by applying global rules 6 and 10 a bit more actively, I'm sure it would gain new life and give anons something they clearly want, which is a place to freely discuss whatever they want without getting drowned in porn and spam.
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> Anonymous ## Mod 06/25/21(Fri)18:44:36 No.7978▶>>7979 >>7982
>>>7977 (OP)
>>If there were a genuinely good board for discussing any random thing, I'm sure most off topic reports would disappear.
>lol
>anyway, i've cleaned up the schizo spam on /qa/ on and off for months now. there are a few dedicated shitposters who use proxies and do not seem like they are going anywhere any time soon. if i camp the board 24/7, then i can keep it clean, but really, it's /qa/. who wants to do that? especially when there are so many other boards that are constantly in need of help
>i'm not opposed to your idea really, but unfortunately i just don't think it's realistic with the tools we currently have available
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> Anonymous ## Janitor 06/25/21(Fri)19:32:27 No.7979▶>>7981 >>7983
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>>>7977 (OP)
>[s4s] is basically old silly /b/, by that virtue I personally think it has value. It has an innocence to it.
>>>7978
>The impression I repeatedly get is that nobody who is a regular user wants to post on /qa/, because it's a stupid cesspit, and jannies and mods don't want to bother with cleaning up /qa/, because it never gets better whatever you do.
>This brings me back once again to the thought "Why does /qa/ exist?" Threads being moved to /qa/ is the same as moving them to /trash/, but much worse. If both anons and staff look at /qa/ as a useless abyss, why spend bandwidth and occasional energy cleaning it when it at best is a Discord circlejerk for chronic shitposters? Do we need to waste our time?
>If we're to have something called a "Question & Answer" board, perhaps it should instead be limited to so that regular users can't actually post there, but rather admins instead answer submitted questions.
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> Anonymous ## Janitor 06/25/21(Fri)19:41:00 No.7980▶>>7982
>>>7977 (OP)
>>If there were a genuinely good board for discussing any random thing, I'm sure most off topic reports would disappear. The question is, do you think it's possible?
>No because the reason people make a lot of off topic posts is because they want to discuss that topic, but within the community that it's off topic to, not because they have nowhere to post it.
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> Anonymous ## Janitor 06/25/21(Fri)22:39:41 No.7981▶>>7983
>>>7979
>>but rather admins instead answer submitted questions
>ngl when I read this I started imagining a system like the ban page. Like a user can go to the Feedback (or something else) page, select Q&A in the category with some other options like if it's a general question or a board specific question and hopefully a mod (or even a janny if they knows a lot about the subject and gets approved by a mod in some way) will reply to it. After that it gets added in the Q&A page where there'll be the question and the answer give, maybe even some way for that user to ask a futher question either because they're still confused or something else but I guess it'd be kind of difficult to implement. That said a system like this will probably be abused, likely less than current /qa/ but still abused; it'd also need a system to delete useless questions or shitposts, maybe also accessible to jannies. This system will probably never be implemented but I needed it out of my head
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> Anonymous ## Janitor 06/26/21(Sat)01:46:19 No.7982▶>>7983
>>>7978
>I considered this too, and you're right that a board's culture is really hard to change once it gets established, so I think a good alternative is instead of using /qa/ for this, you make a new board with the stated purpose of being SFW /b/ or something similar, so that you have a large influx of new users from across the site which gives people the chance to discuss whatever they want, and also enforce global rules 6 and 10 so that if /qa/ or someone else tries to make it "their board" you can put your foot down and stop it from getting filled with trash.
>>>7980
>That's part of the issue too, but I'm sure a lot of this is due to the fact no good, SFW random board exists. Perhaps it wouldn't wipe out most off-topic reports across the site. Even then, it's something a lot of people clearly want. You could even make it a trial board, and if people are disappointed with how it turns out, then it can be scrapped.
>It's not a "perfect solution" because there's a chance it doesn't work, but having a good SFW /b/ sounds great so it's worth a shot. If you make a new board and frame it this way then people will come.
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> Anonymous ## Mod 06/26/21(Sat)11:53:49 No.7983▶>>7984
>>had a dream about /qa/
>i blame you guys
>>>7979
>lots of users enjoy posting on /qa/. i'm one of them. just, as it stands right now, you have to ignore the schizospam.
>/qa/ exists because it was deemed necessary to have a meta board. people can and do use it for meta purposes, but unfortunately these threads are often killed by catalog flooding and necrobumping. it's not a matter of the board being a useless trash heap, but more so the amount of time and effort it would take to clean that board up, not to mention the concentrated autism required, is disproportionate to the actual benefits which could be obtained, especially when compared to directing those efforts towards another board (e.g. /pol/) which is constantly, every single day, flooded in off-topic garbage to the point where it actively and significantly hurts the board and constantly in need of more people looking at it.
>>If we're to have something...
>>>7981
>i really don't think this is very realistic. the old q&a system rarely got any use. most of the people who could feasibly run such a thing are just too busy with other site matters that it's not realistic to expect them to manage that, too. sure, you say mods could do it, but i'm not sure if you have kept up with it, but oftentimes people see a modpost and freak out. it almost inevitably ends in someone reading into it, or twisting the words somehow, and basically just finding malice where there is none and ending up spreading some ridiculous conspiracy theory that just makes things worse than they would have been if we hadn't said anything in the first place. not to mention, mods are human, too. sometimes we fuck up or misunderstand something, or have differences of opinion, so it would be important to get everyone's consensus before releasing anything onto some public q&a system, which doesn't seem like a really good way to do things honestly, and would just deserve to distract people from helping elsewhere on the site.
>honestly though i don't even know what sort of questions would go there. we have a very good faq, rules section, about page, etc. and google still exists. pretty much any question one might have about the site ought to be answered via consulting those resources. if it isn't, they are welcome to ask other users on /qa/ or even register and come to IRC to ask us directly if the question is that important to them. most of the time people are asking about things that aren't any of their concern, though, and which would just get ignored in a q&a thing anyway.
>>>7982
>how many random boards do we need? we have /qa/, /vip/, /b/, /bant/, [s4s], /trash/, /r9k/. i really have a hard time believing that adding MORE random boards is somehow the solution to this. what is the purpose of an SFW /b/? if someone really wants that, why not just have them disable the images and go onto /b/ or /r9k/? why make an entire board to cater to this very specific niche?
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> Anonymous ## Mod 06/26/21(Sat)11:57:26 No.7984▶
>>>7983
>>just deserve to
>just serve to*