>>24602172
>You continue with this nonsense even though I pointed out what unfettered capitalism was like in 19th century and how it was the socialist policies of 20th century which created middle class europe.

He's ignoring you because you're ignoring reality. While the beginnings of the welfare state (or what you might call "socialist policies") can be traced back to Bismarck's Germany, the creation of robust welfare states in Western Europe and its offshoots only start in the 1930s and even then they only came in to being after the second WW.

There is very little correlation between "socialist policies" and the disappearance of poverty or the creation of the middle class in Western Europe and its offshoots.

As you can see in the chart: