>another demoralization thread
I don't know why the idea that you can build a decent physique without using roids makes people lose their shit so hard. People did it left and fucking right until roids were invented, but now people are convinced it's impossible to have delts with the slightest bit of definition without TRT and tren.
Like... you're really gonna tell me that getting to look like pic related wouldn't be enough for most people? That you need to be Arnold or your physique is dogshit?