Thread 149153194 - /sp/ [Archived: 1096 hours ago]

Anonymous Argentina
6/13/2025, 1:35:19 PM No.149153194
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Top best players of all time by IFFHS
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Anonymous Brazil
6/13/2025, 2:10:40 PM No.149153578
Puskas bros...
Anyway i think ger mueller is underrated. He is a proto cristiano
Anonymous United States
6/13/2025, 2:11:43 PM No.149153593
What’s iffhs
Replies: >>149153982 >>149154045 >>149154114 >>149154114 >>149154935 >>149156635 >>149160027 >>149200214
Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 2:42:00 PM No.149153982
>>149153593
insane favela faggots homo story
Anonymous Canada
6/13/2025, 2:46:22 PM No.149154045
>>149153593
international final fantasy high score
Anonymous Brazil
6/13/2025, 2:52:16 PM No.149154114
>>149153593
>>149153593
A guy that makes rankings
Anonymous Venezuela
6/13/2025, 3:00:09 PM No.149154222
>>149153194 (OP)
What puts Messi above Pele?
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Anonymous Canada
6/13/2025, 3:06:14 PM No.149154311
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>>149154222
lays chips sales
Anonymous Brazil
6/13/2025, 3:14:04 PM No.149154403
>>149154222
cruyf is way overrated
lost to gerd muller
Replies: >>149198118
Anonymous France
6/13/2025, 3:57:26 PM No.149154918
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>>149153194 (OP)
People who think maradona is better than cr7 are so delusional
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Anonymous Georgia
6/13/2025, 3:59:05 PM No.149154935
>>149153593
Terrorist organisation
Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 3:59:21 PM No.149154940
>>149153194 (OP)
by what logic is Cruyff above Beckenbauer?
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Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 4:01:13 PM No.149154961
>>149154940
Beckenbauer even has more world cup goals than Cruyff
lol
Anonymous Brazil
6/13/2025, 4:02:33 PM No.149154986
>>149154222
Recency bias
Replies: >>149155265
Anonymous Netherlands
6/13/2025, 4:08:22 PM No.149155072
>>149154940
aura
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/13/2025, 4:18:10 PM No.149155182
>>149153194 (OP)
>no Michael Laudrup
>no Ronald Koeman
Anonymous Portugal
6/13/2025, 4:24:58 PM No.149155243
>>149153194 (OP)
Swap Maradona and Messi and they got it right
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/13/2025, 4:27:10 PM No.149155264
no one saw any of these boomers play
Anonymous Argentina
6/13/2025, 4:27:10 PM No.149155265
>>149154222
>>149154986
Have you seen him play?
Anonymous United States
6/13/2025, 4:31:21 PM No.149155307
>all offensive players
grim
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Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 4:33:36 PM No.149155335
>>149155307
Beckenbauer was both, but mostly defensive
Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 4:34:57 PM No.149155355
>>149155307
it's the most difficult role
Anonymous Australia
6/13/2025, 4:38:30 PM No.149155387
>ronaldinho
>zidane
Zozzle
Anonymous Chile
6/13/2025, 5:25:38 PM No.149156097
>ronaldinho
Anonymous Slovenia
6/13/2025, 5:53:06 PM No.149156459
iffhs is bellow 6 foot
Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 6:06:09 PM No.149156635
>>149153593
its soul
you wouldnt get it
Replies: >>149184370
Anonymous Poland
6/13/2025, 6:25:46 PM No.149156876
>>149154222
What is Pele even doing there?
That favela nigger is fraud and fairy tale stories teller
Only retards consider him goat or even top 10. If Pele is on the list you have to also include Fred or Higuain
Replies: >>149157729 >>149186252
Anonymous Portugal
6/13/2025, 6:31:20 PM No.149156942
>actual list
1. ronaldo
2. pissi
3. baggio
4. platini
5. garrincha
Replies: >>149156960
Anonymous Poland
6/13/2025, 6:32:55 PM No.149156960
>>149156942
Based
Anonymous Argentina
6/13/2025, 6:59:01 PM No.149157392
mapass
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More than half of the list born inside this box
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Anonymous Poland
6/13/2025, 7:00:01 PM No.149157407
>>149157392
Which means that whole ranking is irrevelant
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Anonymous Ukraine
6/13/2025, 7:00:56 PM No.149157426
>>149153194 (OP)
>Dinho
breh
Anonymous Argentina
6/13/2025, 7:01:47 PM No.149157441
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>>149157407
.
Replies: >>149157480 >>149157492 >>149157623
Anonymous Italy
6/13/2025, 7:02:02 PM No.149157445
>>149154222
pele shouldnt even be in the list lmao, i can score 5 gazillion goals too against farmers
Anonymous Argentina
6/13/2025, 7:03:00 PM No.149157463
>>149154222
messi is pro zionism, Disney puppet
Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 7:03:49 PM No.149157480
>>149157441
and half of that is german
Replies: >>149157515
Anonymous Poland
6/13/2025, 7:04:36 PM No.149157492
>>149157441
Idgaf about my shithole country you riggertinian moron
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Anonymous Japan
6/13/2025, 7:05:29 PM No.149157512
>>149157407
>>149157492
Drop the Polish VPN
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Anonymous Poland
6/13/2025, 7:05:37 PM No.149157515
>>149157480
Based
Pooland need to be given back to germany
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Anonymous Poland
6/13/2025, 7:06:52 PM No.149157530
>>149157512
What VPN mr Fukushima?
Anonymous Japan
6/13/2025, 7:06:54 PM No.149157532
>>149157492
>>149157515
Too obvious of a samefag Twain just kill yourself
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Anonymous Japan
6/13/2025, 7:07:54 PM No.149157550
>>149157392
You could do a similar box, maybe even the same size, in Western Europe to be fair.
Anonymous Argentina
6/13/2025, 7:08:09 PM No.149157556
>>149153194 (OP)
peleito
Anonymous Australia
6/13/2025, 7:13:26 PM No.149157623
>>149157441
Oh wow. Uruguay is huge.
Anonymous Canada
6/13/2025, 7:14:05 PM No.149157632
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>>149157512
>>149157532
Anonymous Australia
6/13/2025, 7:15:58 PM No.149157658
>>149154940
Aura monster
Uplifted the Netherlands to Germanys level
Replies: >>149159972
Anonymous Brazil
6/13/2025, 7:21:08 PM No.149157729
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>>149156876
fucking zoomer
Replies: >>149157820
Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 7:22:07 PM No.149157747
>>149153194 (OP)
1. Franz Beckenbauer
2. Gerd Müller
3. Uwe Seeler
4. Fritz Walter
5. Lothar Matthäus
6. Paul Breitner
7. Berti Vogts
8. Philipp Lahm
9. Helmut Rahn
10. Erwin Helmchen (of course)
Replies: >>149159988
Anonymous Brazil
6/13/2025, 7:23:48 PM No.149157774
>>149154918
he is, he don't have better numbers, but as a player he is levels ahead ronaldo.

by using numbers as only factor, lukaku is better than maradona, and we know that lukaku isn't 10% of a player that maradona is.
Replies: >>149158845
Anonymous Brazil
6/13/2025, 7:25:25 PM No.149157792
>>149157407
>if you are better than me, you are irrelevant
Anonymous Poland
6/13/2025, 7:27:48 PM No.149157820
>>149157729
So you are over 100 years old and remember when that fraud (Pele) was winning 3 world cups while playing matvhes without offside rule?
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Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 7:28:13 PM No.149157830
>>149153194 (OP)
>here's an objective ranking of individual players in a team sport with many different positions and roles as well as countless different leagues, cups, and tactics. Oh, and it's also all-time and covers like 100 years of massive developments
I am so tired of this shit. The Ballon D'Or is gay enough already, but this GOAT shit is even worse. Just appreciate greatness in general
Anonymous Brazil
6/13/2025, 7:31:47 PM No.149157905
>>149157820
he wasn't the only one playing without offside rule, why didn't other players also won 3x world cup at time?
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Anonymous Poland
6/13/2025, 7:35:46 PM No.149157977
>>149157905
Asterix and Obelix also won 3 world cups for Galia
Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 7:37:15 PM No.149158010
>>149157905
It's a team sport, nigga. Pelé didn't win any of these three World Cups by himself. He was also not a factor in 1962 in total
That being said, Pelé is a major legend of the sport and an all-time great. And the unofficial matches part is tricky, most of these games were very serious. Santos touring Germany was a sizeable event, the DFB made room in the schedule so that everyone could play with their best teams, and Santos were specifically told to prioritize the game against German champions Hamburg. That game ended 3:3 with Pelé for Santos and Uwe Seeler for Hamburg ripping everything apart, and it definitely wasn't a friendly as far as effort goes
Anonymous France
6/13/2025, 8:25:37 PM No.149158845
>>149157774
mental retardation

the only argument for maradona would be world cup that's it

you faggots really need to stop sucking old players dick seriously
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Anonymous Chile
6/13/2025, 8:27:29 PM No.149158880
Where is Garrincha???
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Anonymous Poland
6/13/2025, 8:35:27 PM No.149158976
>>149158880
In Manchester united
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Anonymous Canada
6/13/2025, 9:48:18 PM No.149159757
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eurocucks in absolute shambles
Anonymous United States
6/13/2025, 10:05:06 PM No.149159936
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kek
Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 10:07:44 PM No.149159972
>>149157658
Netherlands reached a world cup final without him
that team was stacked
Anonymous Germany
6/13/2025, 10:08:45 PM No.149159988
Beckenbauer-plays-in-sling
Beckenbauer-plays-in-sling
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>>149157747
best post
Anonymous France
6/13/2025, 10:11:40 PM No.149160027
>>149153593
journalists jerking club
Anonymous Argentina
6/14/2025, 12:45:31 AM No.149161764
>>149158976
poor bastard
Anonymous United Arab Emirates
6/14/2025, 3:10:45 PM No.149172195
>>149153194 (OP)
Pele won three world cups, though.
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/14/2025, 3:17:54 PM No.149172288
>>149158845
Maybe try watching football instead of looking at wikipedia pages
Anonymous Kenya
6/14/2025, 11:27:40 PM No.149182255
>>149153194 (OP)
>Cruyff
>Beckenbauer
Kek. European stock have never had football talent. They benefited from first mover advantage, doping and later tactics ball where hacks play precisely as coach directs.
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Anonymous Argentina
6/14/2025, 11:29:03 PM No.149182282
>>149182255
when did cruyff ever pop tho
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Anonymous Kenya
6/14/2025, 11:36:31 PM No.149182414
>>149182282
A footballer can't pop in Europe. Have you not seen how they chimp out when a player tries any interesting display of skill? They demonize it as disrespectful lol. Europoids then astroturf the meme of (((intelligent))) footballers who only make 5 meter passes throughout. They gaslight you into believing shitters like Kroos are good.
>oohh he has 99% 5 meter side pass success rate
Replies: >>149183512 >>149184168
Anonymous Romania
6/14/2025, 11:37:43 PM No.149182442
>>149153194 (OP)
us latinos rule the world
Anonymous Chile
6/14/2025, 11:47:02 PM No.149182614
zoomer GOD
zoomer GOD
md5: e918ebe4735230c900cbe6599847a88e🔍
>counting players that played football alpha (no backpass rule) and beta (no VAR) most of their career
I shiggy diggy
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 12:23:40 AM No.149183382
Considering the anachronism, it's pretty fair
Anonymous Canada
6/15/2025, 12:31:03 AM No.149183512
>>149182414
Truke
Replies: >>149183798
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 12:38:16 AM No.149183634
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>>149153194 (OP)
>7.Zidane
>8.Beckenbauer
Replies: >>149183774
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 12:47:40 AM No.149183774
>>149183634
Why wouldn't Beckenbauer be legit? Don't tell me your feeble brain can only rate strikers or playmakers
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 12:49:17 AM No.149183798
>>149183512
Non-whites sticking together with their retarded takes, I see
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/15/2025, 12:50:12 AM No.149183808
>>149153194 (OP)
Ronaldinho is the weirdest choice, he's mainly in there because he was so fun to watch.
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 1:10:46 AM No.149184168
>>149182255
>>149182414
how much do blonde people make you seethe, monkey?
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 1:13:27 AM No.149184214
>cristiano 4

shit list hes not even top 5
Replies: >>149184388
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 1:17:31 AM No.149184312
>>149154222
Messi didnt play against amateurs. Although Eiber and other La Liga shitters arent that much better from the teams Pele played against.
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 1:19:41 AM No.149184349
>>149153194 (OP)
>cruyff
>beckenbauer
>di stefano
pff... hahahHAhahahahHAHAHHAHAHA
Replies: >>149184371
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 1:20:43 AM No.149184370
>>149156635
>statfaggotry
>soul
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 1:20:55 AM No.149184371
>>149184349
Beckenbauer literally took a second league club and made it european champion three times
he should be number one
Replies: >>149184493
Anonymous Canada
6/15/2025, 1:22:04 AM No.149184388
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>>149184214
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/15/2025, 1:22:22 AM No.149184392
>list is for greatest of all time
>zoomers lose their shit if someone from more than 10 minutes ago is listed
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 1:27:27 AM No.149184493
>>149184371
European football can only be taken seriously after they started buying Brazilian and Argentine players
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Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 1:40:40 AM No.149184775
>>149184493
you realize the dutch beat the brazilians in 1974?
what stupid shit are you even saying?
Replies: >>149184850
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 1:44:17 AM No.149184850
>>149184775
Well, yeah, the Dutch had 11 good players, I am referring to the other 500 players who were Brazilian 3rd tier level
Replies: >>149184907
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 1:47:08 AM No.149184907
>>149184850
they had 11 players that were better than yours
Replies: >>149184951
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 1:49:03 AM No.149184951
>>149184907
Cool, I didn't say anything about that, at all
Replies: >>149184978
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 1:49:56 AM No.149184978
>>149184951
yeah, Im aware youre just saying retarded shit
Replies: >>149185051
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 1:51:48 AM No.149185051
>>149184978
>can't read
>"n-no you are saying retard shit"
Sasuga germ-san
Replies: >>149185259
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 1:58:24 AM No.149185259
>>149185051
dont you have tree to swing, monkey?
Replies: >>149185713
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 2:12:06 AM No.149185713
>>149185259
>germs are this soft
kek
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 2:23:26 AM No.149186147
>>149153194 (OP)
>Zidane
Most overrated nigga of all time. Rivaldo was better than him, Xavi and Iniesta were much better as well.
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 2:26:08 AM No.149186252
>>149156876
Jesus Christ, are there still retards who spread this meme?

https://youtu.be/67iTuz_C9P0
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 2:36:11 AM No.149186673
The best players (based on career achievements):
>1. Messi
>2. Pelé
>3. Cristiano Ronaldo
>4. Cruyff
>5. Platini
The best players (based on pure talent):
>1. Ronaldo Nazario
>2. Messi
>3. Pelé
>4. Ronaldinho
>5. Maradona
Replies: >>149188605 >>149188779
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 3:19:14 AM No.149188605
>>149186673
Platini? Career achievements? 1 CL and 1 Euro?
Replies: >>149189134
Anonymous Peru
6/15/2025, 3:23:44 AM No.149188779
>>149153194 (OP)
>>149186673
Where's that wonderkid Nerman
Replies: >>149189134
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 3:33:29 AM No.149189134
>>149188605
And 3 Ballon D’Ors.
>>149188779
I actually think he’s more talented than Maradona, but if I included him people would say I’m baiting.
Replies: >>149189782
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 3:50:35 AM No.149189782
>>149189134
>Ballon D’Ors.
Come the fuck on now, that's an award handed out by a French newspaper. Individual awards in a team sport, please. Arguing someone is better than another player is next to impossible on this level if you go beyond a single team. Go beyond team AND position and it's doomed from the start
Beckenbauer has two Meme d'Ors, a World Cup, a Euro, three CLs. Nobody in their right mind would say Platini has the more impressive career achievements, even if someone is dumb enough to value the Ballon D'Or. And I only chose Beckenbauer because I know how much he won and don't have to look up anything. If you care about meme awards so much: FIFA did almost all the work regarding "GOATs" when they voted on the "Player of the 20th century"
Replies: >>149189861
Anonymous Brazil
6/15/2025, 3:52:27 AM No.149189861
>>149189782
You’re right, I didn’t know much about Beckenbauer, but his achievements are definitely more impressive than Platini’s, he should be fourth or fifth.
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 3:52:37 AM No.149189874
>>149153194 (OP)
#4 beat Germany and Spain last week while #1 is struggling against an Egyptian club team right now
Anonymous Argentina
6/15/2025, 8:01:55 AM No.149196538
>>149154918
Not even the stat-padding organization dares to put Cris in the top 3 KWAB
Anonymous Greece
6/15/2025, 8:25:21 AM No.149196758
>>149158845
>the only argument for individual rankings would be a team achievement
retarded frog
Anonymous Greece
6/15/2025, 8:40:21 AM No.149196875
1. Pythagoras
2. Herodotus
3. Socrates
4. Hippocrates
5. Archimedes (the GOAT of my heart)
6. Plato
7. Euclid
8. Homer
9. Aristotle
10. Thucydides
Replies: >>149201120
Anonymous United Kingdom
6/15/2025, 11:09:08 AM No.149198118
johan-cruyff-cruyff
johan-cruyff-cruyff
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>>149154403
This advanced move would say otherwise.
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 2:09:54 PM No.149200214
Dr-Alfredo-W-Pöge+IFFHS-Zeitschrift-Libero-International-No-23-III-Quartal-1996
>>149153593
Autism - formerly German, and now Swiss.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFFHS

Think about it - before the age of the internet, there was someone in Leipzig (acktually a half-Italian, quarter-French and quarter-German) that collected newspapers from all over the world, collected scores, created rankings, and published them - and he was expelled because of that and settled in West Germany.

So yeah, you can trust their raw numbers (top goalscorers etc.), but the other Best rankings are a little dubious (as always - how do you rank defenders?).
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 3:22:20 PM No.149201120
>>149196875
>1. Pythagoras
played for Italy later in life - how can they get away with it?
>2. Herodotus
Anatolian
>5. Archimedes (the GOAT of my heart)
Sicilian
>7. Euclid
Egyptian

Greeks:
>3. Socrates
>4. Hippocrates
>6. Plato
>8. Homer
>9. Aristotle
>10. Thucydides

So even then they had the same problems as today - foreign born expatriates ;-)
Anonymous Greece
6/15/2025, 6:19:16 PM No.149204451
@149201120
>spent 100 hours in wikipedia to post the shittiest bait award
congratulations