GIGAKUBICA-Edition
>Sunday, June 15 (all times EDT)3:00 PM: NASCAR Cup, Rd 16/36, 'Viva Mรฉxico 250', Mexico City, Mexico
8:00 PM: IndyCar, Rd 8/17, 'Bommarito Automotive Group 500', Madison, Illinois, USA
>Friday, June 205:00 PM: NASCAR Trucks, Rd 14/25, 'MillerTech Battery 200', Pocono Raceway, Long Pond, Pennsylvania, USA
10:20 PM: Supercars, Rd 17/34, 'Darwin Triple Crown #1', Hidden Valley Raceway, Darwin, Australia
>Saturday, June 211:40 AM: Supercars, Rd 18/34, 'Darwin Triple Crown #2', Hidden Valley Raceway, Darwin, Australia
4:00 AM: Formula E, Rd 12/16, 'Jakarta ePrix', Jakarta International ePrix Circuit, Jakarta, Indonesia
9:00 AM: MotoGP, Rd 9-S/22, 'Gran Premio d'Italia (Sprint)', Autodromo Internazionale del Mugello, Scarperia e San Piero, Italy
10:00 AM: IGTC, Rd 2/5, 'ADAC Ravenol 24h Nรผrburgring', Nรผrburgring Nordschleife, Nรผrburg, Germany
11:45 AM: IMSA Pilot, Rd 5/10, 'LP Building Solutions 120', Watkins Glen International, Watkins Glen, New York, USA
3:30 PM: NASCAR Xfinity, Rd 16/33, 'Explore the Pocono Mountains 250', Pocono Raceway, Long Pond, Pennsylvania, USA
9:00 PM: ARCA, Rd 8/20, 'Shore Lunch 250', Elko Speedway, Elko New Market, Minnesota, USA
>Sunday, June 221:10 AM: Supercars, Rd 19/34, 'Darwin Triple Crown #3', Hidden Valley Raceway, Darwin, Australia
8:00 AM: MotoGP, Rd 9/22, 'Gran Premio d'Italia', Autodromo Internazionale del Mugello, Scarperia e San Piero, Italy
11:00 AM: Indy NXT, Rd 7/14, 'Grand Prix at Road America', Road America, Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin, USA
12:00 PM: IMSA, Rd 6/11, 'Sahlen's Six Hours of The Glen', Watkins Glen International, Watkins Glen, New York, USA
1:30 PM: IndyCar, Rd 9/17, 'XPEL Grand Prix at Road America', Road America, Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin, USA
2:00 PM: NASCAR Cup, Rd 17/36, 'The Great American Getaway 400', Pocono Raceway, Long Pond, Pennsylvania, USA
Spreadsheet:
https://pastebin.com/D9ZzLBrv
More races and times at:
https://raceday.watch/
Previous Thread:
>>149171545
>>149208123This is the coolest thing I have seen in a while.
I've got the Saar GP on one screen. Pulling for George. I've got Mexico City on the other screen. I'm saving SVG for Chicago and I'm picking Taco John to finish ahead of Preece
>>149208175>I've got the Saar GP on one screen.Shid, missed the first lap (when we decide the winner).
>Max exposed like a $2 whoreLovely, lovely, lovely.
>>149208256Russell had a much better reaction time on lights out. I wish we could see George and Max in a McLaren. Everyone else seems to have forgotten how to build cars
Just want to let you's all know
Fuck hybrid
Races
md5: a062e1c0b0160326636518d753442d3a
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>>149208369Yeah, but at least you don't have to dedicate any effort to following it. It's basically low-fi racing to chill and do homework to.
>>149207712 (OP)Do customer car programmes like pic related contribute to increased reliability?
>>149208462I do enjoy F1. No matter how much NASCAR tries to make it gay, stock car racing will always be my favorite
>>149208546Maybe, but no.
It's mostly just a cash cow to transfer wealth from the top .000001% to the top .0000001%
I'm sure they run the data through the AI bot, but I doubt they given it much weight.
>>149208596I like F1 abd NASCAR.
I criticize both quite roundly because I know they could be better and both are full of faggot shit because people who don't like, understand or care about racing are trying to make them appealing to people who don't like, care about or understand racing.
>Cue faggot puppets.
>>149208786Steve Letard talking to puppets about stages in NASCAR is everything wrong with NASCAR
>>149208897Well, it's the newest thing wrong with it and an excellent example. If I could get rid of one single thing, I'd keep the childish, Sesemme Street puppets and ditch stage cautions.
Also
>F1 Montreal is a Monaco repeat and they are running this street shitting slurp fest against the Indy 500 next year. That new car had better come a cropper if that's going to work.Fuck those fags for ruining the pre Indy 500 parade.
Has anyone made a /turnleft/ thread?
>>149209237Don't worry, fren. We have plenty more vrooms today and plenty more endurance racing in the weeks to come.
>>14920918014 hours of racing starting in Monaco and ending in Charlotte was my favorite Memorial Day tradition. F1 doesn't care about tradition
Flo has no track audio, just commentary for mods at Riverhead. This sucks.
>>149209309>F1 doesn't care about traditionWell, anything that isn't metzitzah b'peh.
>>149209762I'm sorry, anon. That's really frustrating. The announcers can really make or break a race and not having anything is really annoying. I hope they fix their shit soon.
We have a comfy NASCAR race in Mexico if you want to join us. I know it's not the same, but there are frens and vrooms.
>>149210570Kek. They fixed it like a minute after I posted that.
Do you think a mods enjoyer wouldn't be watching a race with Preece on the front row?
>>149210736>Do you think a mods enjoyer wouldn't be watching a race with Preece on the front row?IDK, maybe?
>>149207712 (OP)LANDO
NOKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
>>149210989Have there been any on track passes in the top 5 or was it all on pit stop?
I was watching Mexican kids sing the national anthems.
Also, what a gift to that Dutch sperg.
>Fag1 ends under SC
Pottery.
>>149211704You might want to get your eyes checked.
>>149211704I don't know, but D/C/F means Dallara, Chevrolet, Firestone.
>>149211855Thanks I am retarded
>>149211828Iโm also hungover
Really happy for Kubica lads
>>149205945She is
>>149209309Before the mid 00s it rarely happened, and even since then it wasnt always the case.
Good job sucking up on media propaganda that it was some kind of holy god given tradition of peak racing (more so bc monaco is usually (9 times out of 10) is way worse racing than the indy500)
Anyone with a plane ticket to Germany?
https://www.24h-rennen.de/en/schedule/
Anyone with a plane ticket to Belgium?
https://www.crowdstrike24hoursofspa.com/programme
>>149211903No worries, fren.
Le Mans is brutal even just watching from home.
>>149208546>>149208652> You run the same car with even bigger strain ofc it helps, more data always better and the modificata being unrestricted surely puts more strain on the parts
The issue is that apart from Lambo (and they are pretty retarded not making a clienti version of the lmdh) and Porsche, no one has this kind of clienti program or the brand does not have the same gravity to run such (like who the fuck would pay for a toyota or caddy clienti drive 2m USD when they can pay for a prestigious sport car brand like Ferrari/Porsche/Lambo, etc...)
Indy NXT at WWTR starting in a couple min on FS1
>>149213696louis foster is guest commentator?
>>149213889Yes, idk what his vibe is
>>149213953>idk what his vibe isBri'ish vibe
Cant wait for the next Le Mans boys and it's such a long time to go, always a sobering letdown after finish
>>149204358Ah don't know, somehow the whole race felt a bit dull, but probably this was also because the broadcast director was plain shit. I'm sure we missed a lot of stories or battles within the gts or lmp2s because they showed the hypercars constantly, but really felt that there wasnt that much happening in the race than in previous years
at least she can't finish 20th
Tranny paki janny having a tough day after that slurper huh
>>149213289Those things do less combined mileage in a year than the race team does in a day and they'll be running 10 seconds off race pace, they aren't straining shit.
we all know Hauger will be at indycar next season but can Collet also make it? How many drivers jumped categories last season? Only Foster?
I dunno how the fuck I missed it, but back then in december when Loriaux resigned and everybody went into "Hyundai is leaving for sure"
A week later dropped that actually Toyota poached him for the rally raid programme
>>149214162cheekily one of your test drivers wins a whole year of 100% off vouchers
>>149214422>>149214194Who are the good guys in NXT? Iโve never watched before.
>>149214024is that what this is?
>>149214177> Loriaux, FX, Jost Capito, Gรผnther Steiner, Simon Carrier (the engineer lead at TGR WRC), etc... MSport of early-mid 00s really been some kind of talent powerhouse
>>149214563pretty much the current top5
been like that all season now
>>149213289They are nerfed to hell with all kinds of nanny systems to keep the geriatric drivers from killing themselves or worse, destroying the car.
No chance it's helping them win in WEC.
>>149214162>Tranny paki jannyThe eternal enemy of the street shitting leaf.
>IndyCar late this weekend
Usually /turnleft/ is my closure ritual, but today IndyCar has do. At least next week is only a 3 day work week and I can get wasted as fuck
>>149214690I mean we really don't know who the fuck runs with those cars and nanny systems like abs or traction control can be switched off
lmao the top 3 drivers were sleeping
>>149215007>No power>Infinity down forceYeah, that checks out.
>>149214164nevermind he lost to ANOTHER rookie
Welcome to Porsche Carrera Cup Brazil, Caio Collet!
Open wheel feeder series...
Every time.
Lochie Hughes wins IndyNXT, first time on an oval
>>149214177Loriaux is a mysterious man, almost as much as picrel
IndyCar in 2 hours 50 minutes
>>149215233did deegs shat herself again?
>>149215999FX Demaison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois-Xavier_Demaison_(engineer)
and I was dumb, because he never worked from MSport
>>149215999are those imprezas?
Junyas gotta be proud seeing the 88 move it
>>149216803Its a racism joke
>>149216522>>149216522I'm not sure I've heard that name before
>Max, how to win in Mexico?
>Just pull an insane gap ahead of second place,
>OK, thanks!
>You lived long enough to see NASCAR be more interesting than F1
>>149217994hard to like NASCAR when they genuinely have the worst championship system ever
>>149217994But that happened 60 years ago.
>>149217994>you've lived long enough to see F1 Champions actively talk to NASCAR drivers and give them advice
bought some ice cream for the post race AMA
>>149218061Say it louder for the sheeple in the back. Stages and Playoffs have ruined this series. People can say all they want that it "enhanced it" but it's not about racing anymore. NASCAR will never admit they were wrong, they'll stick to its arrogance and greed to the bitter end and no amount of outside input from anybody is going to accomplish zilch, not until some massive upheaval of some sort occurs.
>>149209309>F1 doesn't care about traditionHaving the rabble grovel and kiss your ass simply because you're rich is the only tradition the F1 paddock cares about.
It's "The Emperor's New Racing Series."
>>149216973he was mentioned a lot in the wrc broadcast since he joined hyundai
>>149218596>NASCAR will never admit they were wrongIt's pretty rare for billionaires to admit the filthy hoi polloi were right.
>>149218684buttered pecan
>>149216803Kubicas own number is 88 as well, it was a lucky number today
>>149218643even though your tradition is openly defecating on the streets, no one will respect it
>>149218830Is there a song one could play to celebrate this number?
>>149218868https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260hXID0Yo0
>>149219327>admitting he won't be relevant again until the first round of eliminations>nor after
>>149219460Eh, don't be THAT sure
>>149219609if he can meme his way into the 2nd round he has a legitimate shot to make it to the 3rd
>>149218830>openly defecating on the streetsThat's one way to describe what we saw today in Canada.
>>149219174Unequivocally based beyond all belief.
I have officially moved to the couch for /indy/
Ready for some motherfucking INDY
>>149208546shame nobody's racing the 499 in IMSA. Imagine a NART blue and white one
I just learned this was a thing. I fucked up.
https://experience.mercedes-amg.com/en/event/vip-ticket-24h-nuerburgring
Good to know for next year.
kind weekend of motorsports (except f1).
see you next weekend for nords 24 lads.
I get why Ricky is mad, but there was clearly no intent. Hocevar lost control of his car under braking and slid into him. Earlier in the race Carson nearly wrecked himself to avoid contact with Ricky. If he wanted to fight, he should have done so after their first incident. It'd be like Larson being mad at Busch...I mean sure Busch made a mistake, but it's not like he meant to crash into anyone.
>..The vrooms have ended... I can rest n-
SIKE! STAY YO ASS UP.
https://timstreams.site/watch?id=2245870
>>149224284Whateverrrr I just want to see BAMF get his butt kicked by any means necessary
Bautista crying like a bitch about his bike being too heavy when he's still like 20lbs lighter than Toprak or anyone else and over 50lbs lighter than Redding on combined weight apparently never gets old for him.
>>149224310whats this, Ill watch it
Im drunk and still wound up from the indy race
SVG was toying with them in that final run. He could have won by 25 seconds if he pushed. Thought it was funny he basically told his CC to shutup when they were telling him to manage his stuff and not run so fast.
Shame we didn't get to see him and Gibbs battle it out that stint. 54 was the only car in his zip code today.
>>149224402410 sprint cars and dirt modifieds
I expected to hate it, probably hoped to hate it, but I'm gonna be sad to see Prime go after Pocono. Is the TNT coverage the same NBC outfit? They'll at least be better than Fox.
>>149224540>Is the TNT coverage the same NBC outfit? no, the prime booth carries over to tnt, shannon spake|kligerman|mcflurry are the studio hosts and danielle trotta|marty snider|alan cavanna are the pit reporters
Apparently a bunch of drivers had the bubbly guts. Don't drink third world tap water bros.
>>149224820That's awesome actually. Loved every bit of Prime's coverage so it's cool to see a lot of those folks transfer over.
Is this the Mexican version of making someone touch the wall?
>>149224874>Montezuma's Revenge a joke for 50 years>people still don't heed the warning
>>149224462Not even dark yet and the vrooms are still going. west coasters eatin' good
>>149224955I just assumed that SVG hadn't heard this shit because New Zealand doesn't exactly border Mexico but I don't know what the fuck the problem is with anyone else.
>>149224944I'm sure there are tourist areas in Ciudad de Mexico that are very pleasant, and I'm sure the Mexican government works very hard to ensure they stay pleasant. I will take a guess that most of the city is not quite as pleasant.
>>149225010That honestly sounds better than Canadian cities these days desu
No fault to Mexico's circuit, but after half a race and a bunch of pit stops, nearly every car (aside from SVG) was relatively equal. Passing was nearly impossible, unless someone had big tire fall off (like Ross and Gibbs). The only guy who marched forward on the last stint was Chase. We have to give teams a bigger box, or ban SMT data, or something. The teams are too good and by the end of races everyone is pretty much the same.
There's always talk about the playoff system, but for SVG I think it's premature. He still has Chicago, Sonoma, and WGI...and two restrictor style races where he's very good. He could very easily roll into the playoffs with 3 wins.
>>149219327Absolutely dominant performance, reminds me of Chess in the year or two before Larson's revenge tour in '21. It'll be interesting to see if other drivers figure out his trick, and if they do if he can stay competitive.
>>149224284Ricky's in that spot where rationality is no longer in control. He was already hot at Hocevar thanks to Nashville, and thus in no mood to give him any benefits of the doubt. Remember that, as it currently stands, that shitty finish there pretty much fucked his season. He had a shot at pointing his way in before that, and that's gone now, likely never to return. I wouldn't be surprised if Chokecevar gets a visit from him soon.
>>149225483Gibbs was just as fast, but he burned his tires behind the 1 on that last stint. I think it'll be easier for the younger drivers to adapt cuz there's less things to unlearn, but w/o that caution we would have got a 54 vs 88 long run for all the marbles.
>>149225010Remember when Spooter Bort went on and on about how everyone in the NASCAR industry needed to make sure they traveled in groups in Chicago so they didn't get mugged/stabbed/shot at in Grant Park which is the nice part of town?
>>149225352>by the end of races everyone is pretty much the sameThis is the Next-Gen Car working as intended. The idea, at least, was to make the racing closer. Now, to my mind, that has happened at the 1.5 mile tracks, to the detriment of everything else, but then again I understood the goal to be to make the 1.5 mile tracks something other than unbearably boring. But I'm still not sure it's been worth what was lost. Here's hoping they can keep tweaking and make road courses, and especially short tracks, better, without making the mile-and-halfs worse.
>>149225512>Ricky's in that spot where rationality is no longer in controlYou mean he's awake?
>>149225588Rog knifing his entire executive staff is going to set them back for a while. Can't believe Chip and the other owners guilt tripped him into do that.
>>149225540stfu libtard
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/7/1/23781614/charges-pending-against-man-who-drove-onto-chicago-nascar-course-police
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/thieves-attempt-to-take-atv-work-trucks-from-nascar-construction-site
oh and 100 people were shot and 19 killed, 19 minutes away from the street course
>>149225645I voted for Trump you stupid fuck
>>149225643The rear suspension failures on short ovals have been happening to Penske for years (because they are cheating lol) and the team had nothing to do with Newgarden getting kwabbed. Power's tire is pretty much a mystery in general.
Not a big Indy guy, more of a casual. Did Kyle Kirkwood come out of left field? I know Palou is doing crazy shit, but 3 wins already for Kyle? Kinda crazy right?
>>149225010>I will take a guess that most of the city is not quite as pleasant.that applies to every big city on the planet
>>149225755Including American big cities. Bunch of junkies and homeless encampments everywhere. Luckily NASCAR doesn't visit many libtard zones.
btw it seems like snooty had a half shaft failure, wonder if it's related to the hybrid, the onboard feed was showing the nose cam so idk what he was doing with it at the time
>sign up for Hypermeme on the premise you can rebadge an LMP2 car and win The Mans
>turns out it not only costs several times as much as an LMP2 car after you add the hybrid system that doesn't do anything, submit 10,000 pages of homologation documents, mount a bazillion BoP sensors, and get it to turn LMP2 lap times while weighing as much as the Titanic but the running costs are way beyond anything advertised
>even with all those fancy electronics the BoP is still primarily set by throwing darts
>and Ferrari wins every time anyways
Probably the best way to light money on fire for no purpose available in motorsport today. Whoever with the ACO still talks manufacturers into thinking they're going to get that good BoP shit while Peugeot sucks a trillion dicks in the back could sell ice to Eskimos.
>>149225724>Did Kyle Kirkwood come out of left field?not exactly, but Team Penske have been shitting their firesuits all season. this is a great opportunity for teams other than Ganassi and Penske to pick up wins. but Palou and Ganassi are still the favorite for the championship. too bad for Palou that the Indy 500 doesn't award double points anymore.
>>149220696Ferrari and Toyota are pussies and think they won't get the good BoP in IMSA like they do in WEC. Peugeot doesn't even sell cars in the US and their race car sucks anyway.
>>149226228the second that Porsche doesn't think they can win is the second the LMH/LMDh class dies
>>149225643Roger has nobody but himself to blame. he thought he could own the series, own the eponymous track of the series, own a team in the series, own an engine manufacturer in the series and there would be no problems.
>>149226341Even if there is not another repeat Le Mans winner for the extended lifetime of Hypermeme there will still be 3 manufactures that don't win. I'm really confused how those odds make sense when you don't control your own destiny so to speak or derive any non-results based benefits from the activity.
>>149226414maybe that's why Honda is hesitant to join WEC
>>149226440Honda is probably demanding the Hypercar hybrid be made heavier and gayer.
>>149226467and Roger Penske should have kept building chassis so he could have a Penske-Ilmor prototype instead of a Penske-Porsche-Multimatic
>>149226414>>149226440if only lemans would be the important, these brands wouldnt race in imsa
>>149226512IMSA is in a unique spot because there's really nowhere else for a brand like Acura to race.
>>149226228Excellent and entertaining synopsis.
>>149226467Honda is becoming the Kathy Kennedy of motorsports.
>>149225010>I will take a guess that most of the city is not quite as pleasant.im not from cd mx but cam on lad, everyone knows that cd mx is fucking huge and as such it has good and bad parts, and lets be real most of these guys stay or visit the nicest part of the city. the fans, media and sometimes the drivers or any other sportsmen that comes to cd mx thinking they are gonna spend their time in a fucking ghetto are either retards or watch too much movies, oh yeah one thing is for sure, regardless whether you stay in a nice go bad part of the city, the city as a whole smells like shit
Congrats NASCAR on hyping up an unexciting road course race that took place in front of a mild crowd on a track devoid of elevation changes (or any character, really) and a winner that was so predictable, Vegas still gave him 2:1 odds despite racing with diarrhea.
NASCAR used to be synonymous with unpredictable, crazy shit happening, but it's now as exciting as some rando's private iRacing league where half of the series are literal who's with generated names you'd see 10 years into a Madden dynasty, and free road courses on the schedule that the host said he'd make a default setup for, but forgot, and now nobody can pass except the one guy with road racing experience because he binged on Assetto Corsa when he was 15.
>โWhat a week, Iโve really enjoyed myself,โ said van Gisbergen.
>โI felt pretty rubbish today, leaking out both holes. That wasnโt fun.
>>149226576ok, but bmw, lambo...
>>149226341so wec loses 3 cars with 6 confirmed to enter in the next 2 years. I dont want to break to you, but WEC wont collapse if porsche leaves
>>149226329Or they just don't want to spend on it. For example toyota with WEC and Nascar already reaches the most or even more people they would with imsa, and they have the biggest factory racing operation , being present in the highest number of championships around the world, so maybe they dont see the valid reason to enter
They already reluctant to enter a third car for Le Mans (also we can't really speak about favourable bop to toyota in wec since the other big guns entered)
>>149207712 (OP)>GIGAKUBICA-Editiongigabased
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/toyotagazooracing/a355/
Singabro, I guess shipping from Japan is not that bad compared to shipping from like Europe
>>149226818BMW is the same except they have a GT3 car, they are never ever going to NASCAR or IndyCar. Lamborghini just doesn't count at all, they thought this was going to be like GT3 and they would just be running customer support for 6 cars and are only running IMSA to not spend money.
If you count IMSA and Grand-Am together BMW USA has had a pretty consistent American prototype racing presence anyways regardless of the rules.
This car was more memorable when it got a Judd engine and a bunch of cool chassis modifications but somehow kept the Fina sponsorship mind you.
>>149226228it still costs peanuts compared to any other top class world championship but clearly manufacturers arrived in droves because they thought it will be the prototype version of SRO gt3 racing, now that it's clear it's not enough to build a car that fits the performance window in the regulations and you can't even really throw money at it and develop your car to be faster a lot of teams will leave after the three year cycles are done and the programs get re-evaluated by bean counters
>>149226512porsche and bmw are already thinking about axing one of the dual programs according to rumours and it's probably not going to be wec and le mans, porsche also thought that they will be able to fund their programs by selling customer cars
Hello lads, I'm sorry I haven't been posting much from half the race onwards, but I didn't get to see the end of it. We had to retire in the morning so we just packed a few things up and left early to go to sleep. Funny enough, I was just writing up something to post in the /lm24/ thread saying how the race was fucking boring for us and then disaster struck while I was waiting for the captcha to load.
It fucking sucks retiring this late in the race but it is what it is. There is always next year.
I hope you guys enjoyed the race and the victory of gigakubica. I guess I'll check in here again this weekend at Glen.
>>149227139Thanks for checking in bro and sad for the retirement
>>149227139Welcome back to earth, man
For me it's yellow Ferraris
>>149224944He flew in.
Ask the hauler drivers that had an armored car escort through the desert how they feel about the drive.
>>149224041Don't go anywhere. We will have more stuff to talk about as the analysis of the races starts coming out.
>>149224874>>149224955>>149225005NASCAR should have advised the teams about that. It really could have caused some problems.
>>149227139See you next year for my souvenir bro.
>tfw fell asleep during the caution for the newgarden crash after the long weekend of vrooms finally caught up to me
I hate getting older.
>>149224874that's one way to get guys to drive faster
>>149227820I went to sleep at
>>149222058 and missed newgarden's crash and more kino racing, it sucks.
>>149226228>>149226646You are so fucking miserable it's pathetic. I wouldn't care at all, but you just constantly want to drag everyone down with you. You never, ever post about anything you enjoy. You just come here to spew toxic negativity. You very seriously need to stop drinking and take your meds.
Now that the lm24h (kino race and you frens made the experience even better) is over, how do we fix Cadillac?
>>149227820>>149227987Yeah, it was pretty hard tonstay up and work sucks today because I only slept about 6 hours all weekend, but it was a freaking banger. It's up on YT if you want to catch up. I know it's not the same, but at least it's something.
https://www.youtube.com/live/-4gJEsg0dk0
>>149228668IDK exactly what's wrong with it, but it needs a more consistent pace throughout the stint. I think they chew up tiers because they make their speed on corner exit. I also think they had a not so great power reduction on the top end, but it wasn't the worst. I wish we had the downforce and parasitic drag numbers for the cars because I think that is where Ferrari and Porsche are really finding a lot of pace.
>>149228668honestly if you remove ferraris (clearly in a league of their own, #6 only got where it did through a combinations of raris fucking up and #6 being run completely flawlessly) they were in the thick of things just fine.
they did lose a lot of speed compared to qualifying because of traffic affecting them in the curves, whereas straight line speed is always good
>>149228668maybe dont run cryptominer in the ecu
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/sportscar-stars-blown-away-by-wrc-experience
Neuvile gave some taste of rallying to Lotterer and Maro Engel before lemans
We arrived to the point where a rally got cancelled because of the lack of funds in the national championship
great
>be 10th place car
>leader crashes out with a tire failure
>new leader launches over a spinning backmarker 7 seconds after he hit the wall because race control needs a Sunday night nap
>three leaders get weird ass pit penalties at once
>put the guy passing you while you get up to speed exiting the pits in the wall
>guy ahead of you gets blocked by his make a wish teammate on the last restart
>cleanairwinslol
2025 IndyCar sure is a place of pain.
>>149226512Honda probably would do Le Mans if they could do it as a one-off without having to enter 2 cars in the 7 other WEC rounds. that's a lot more money they'd have to spend for a bunch of races that are nothing compared to Le Mans in terms of prestige.
Indycar needs a proper new game.
>>149229646>7 seconds after he hit the wallIn the slow motion video, maybe.
how is pilelli so high up
>>149227139good to know the race was was also viewed ad boring from that side too lol
>>149229647>Honda probably would do Le Mans if they could do it as a one-ofThat's probably true. I wonder what's costs more, a season of IMSA or a season of WEC. Obviously IMSA runs way more races, but they can all use the North American over the road logistics infrastructure to move things around.
>>149229842it was 6 seconds after 45 hit the wall initially, you can see in the replay the lights only turned on after newgarden"s nose cone was half up through fosters' ass
MRF
md5: c68789967a20f0679879b8d96109b203
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>>149229852A tyre company with a pretty based logo.
On WAT and FAT levels, desu
>>149229852tire company from India
>>149229647>they could do it as a one-off without having to enter 2 cars in the 7 other WEC roundsjust enter the acuras with Honda plastered over them
>>149229917wec sure costs more. shipping shit around a country on road is miles cheaper than airlifting or on water around the world
>>149229504>lack of fundsmany of those cases
>>149229504>>149230337>Don't care. I'm here to stay.Seriously, does Carlos have a chance against him? He hasn't candidated, yet, but I want to belive.
https://youtu.be/G6TtHuOOYGM?si=VPrO7iUU8-dq7Gco
megane kit car my beloved
>>149230337i wonder how hot of a take it is but that era of mini rally cars looked fucking amazing
>>149229852Saar company that makes high grade tyres that are geometrically designed and manufactured from the nucleus atom of poo
>>149230421it nothing has to do with sulayem, more about my gorlvernment and shitting on basically every sport and pumping disproportionate amounts of money into footy and nothing else
>the 51, 50, and 83 Ferraris have all won Le Mans
rigged
>>149230337dunno about other countries but cancelling a round of the championship due to lack of funds is a new low for us, didnt really happen before iirc, even in the global crash years
>>149230774i dont think its a hot take, im not a gourmet but I really liked them as well, they look and sound pretty different to their contemporaries
>>149230421idk, i think very few possibilities
>>149230898at the time i bthink alot of people didnt like that they took the countryman for the chassis and not the mini cooper
>>149230928yeah I hate the countryman irl as well and all the bloated minis (basically every mini of the last 10 years) which shit on the original ethos of the mini
(also the mini cooper would have been too small for a wrc maybe, not fitting into the minimum lenght)
but as a rally car I liked it, and I think the people who even remember it now like it as well.
>>149230978modern mini coopers arent even that small honestly, theire not that bigger then the ford fiestas at the time and looked much better, although looking back now, it isnt a bad looking rally car, honestly looks better then the DS3 of that year
>>149230863Probably, but at least its not been won by a manufacturer thats promoting globo homo
lol i was looking into what prodrive actually doing nowadays, I didnt know they are behind the dacia rally raid car. I hope we see a sandero wrc after 2027 for the lolz
>>149231022i hated that generation of ds3
the next gen looked better though
first gen new mini and the first gen clubman were great though (just have some reserves for a random engine replacement)
Why the fuck everything cost money
>>149229647>Honda probably would do Le Mans if they could do it as a one-offThe battle between manufacturers and racing series has been that way for decades. Manufacturers want to cherry pick the popular race to minimize their costs, series want to make sure they have a full field all year.
>>149230898>didnt really happen before iircit happens once or twice in 4-5 years usually
>>149230945This is the kind of stuff I love about real racing.
>>149231371and series don't want to promote the other races enough to make manufacturers want to do them
>>149230421It is time to have a reckoning with the moorish hoards and their allies.
>>149230822>pumping disproportionate amounts of money into footyFucking how? All you need is a ball of rags and a dirt feild to play. You can completely equip two teams and give them a nice grass feild for the price a a GT3 car and still have money left over. Even a nice stadium is cheap compared to a proper race track. Normie sports are such a Fucking scam, it's unreal.
>>149231693Imagine an American at the head of FIA
Who could that be?
>>149230774I suppose you already know this but there were many drivers who were invited to test the mini in Portugal in 2010, among them Grรถnholm (whom David Richards proposed to be an official driver), Markko Mรคrtin and Ott Tรคnak in one of the first times in a WRCar (?)
>>149231798In all competitions the expense is what is necessary to beat the other guys.
>just watched some Frenchmen con the automotive industry into wasting a billion dollars to make Ferrari look good and calls other sports scams
>Earl Bamber Motorsport has revealed a second wildcard entry for next weekโs Sepang SUPER GT round, with Dorian Boccolacci and Adrian DโSilva sharing a Porsche 911 GT3 R.
>Malaysian driver DโSilva and Porsche Motorsport Asia Pacific Selected Driver will team up in the No. 611 car that becomes the second confirmed additional entry for the race, alongside the EBM Aston Martin Vantage GT3 Evo effort announced in April.
>It will mark both driversโ debut in SUPER GT, although they bring considerable experience of the track across various GT3-based categories.
https://sportscar365.com/other-series/super-gt/ebm-reveals-porsche-wildcard-entry-for-sepang/
>Earl Bamber Motorsport has revealed a second wildcard entry for next weekโs Sepang SUPER GT round, with Dorian Boccolacci and Adrian DโSilva sharing a Porsche 911 GT3 R.
>Malaysian driver DโSilva and Porsche Motorsport Asia Pacific Selected Driver will team up in the No. 611 car that becomes the second confirmed additional entry for the race, alongside the EBM Aston Martin Vantage GT3 Evo effort announced in April.
>It will mark both driversโ debut in SUPER GT, although they bring considerable experience of the track across various GT3-based categories.
>>149232018Michael Andretti for maximum lulz
Did none of you post about Prema suing Lamborghini, fucking lmao
>In Prema Engineering S.r.l. v. Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A., filed in the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas, Austin Division, Prema Engineering alleges that in 2024, Lamborghini, while in a racing partnership with Prema Engineering and Iron Lynx racing team, stole Prema Engineeringโs high-tech trade secret-protected steering wheel software in order to use it in Lamborghiniโs new racing partnership with Riley Motorsports, a competitor of Prema Engineering and Iron Lynx.
>>149230978>>149231022IIRC the SX4 was only 6 cm taller than the Xsara and the Mini 4 or 5 cm longer than the DS3. In both cases it seemed more. The spanish called the Mini "the bus" lol
>>149232180https://natlawreview.com/article/lamborghini-accused-driving-away-former-partners-trade-secrets
mamma mia
>>149230863Ferrari is either A. cheating or B. really just good. All things considered, I am leaning towards the latter. The 499P is a sneaky way to get around F1 testing limitations, and I think they are really putting a lot of effort in resources into it. Even ifnit is a one to one translation, work done on the simulator, in the wind tunnel and in the CFD software can be compared and shared. I wish Aston and Alpine would do the same. I think that the key to the 499P's success is based largely on their ability to manage airflow effectively which they know all about from F1. It has a unique, high centered front splitter and fences on the fenders, roof and rear wing to help reduce turbulent flow. I wish Alpine and Aston would put so much into their sports cars.
Talking about mini, I will support the bulldog team this weekend
>>149231798basically a fuckhuge amount of money went into football field and stadium constructions as govt gibs (both bc el presidente is a rabid footy fan and bc this was another way of stealing public money bc the cronies and el presidente owns the big construction companies)
And also there was a scheme for a decade that companies could get tax break if they channel money to support football clubs (ofc the biggest ones are in the hands of el presidente and his cronies)
And also things like one of the cronies made a sport equipmebt company and it was supported with govt gibs and every team plus the national one was "advised" to buy from that (ofc these clowns cant run companies properly so it went bankrupt in like 2-3 years and everyone uses proper brands again)
and yada yada
a lot of money was spent on retard high footballer salaries and such and transfers.
>>149231460memoryholed the last ones but dire none the less
>>149232483>>>149230863 (You) #>Ferrari is either A. cheating or B. really just goodreally good at sandbagging the BoP
>>149232483or C. sandbagging the BoP
>imsa/indy/nascar simultaneously this Sunday
>fuck all next Sunday
why are they like this
>>149232535dont they have infavourable bop anyways?
>>149232474lmao this lambo hypermeme story is worse with every news
>>149232628It's fucking ridiculous. I hope one of them gets rain delayed. How they manage to fuck up the scheduling like this is beyond retarded.
>>149232535They don't need to be good at sandbagging they just give it to them anyways
>>149232629>car sucks>quit WEC>lawsuitsKWABorghini
>>149232676>fuck upasscar does it on purpose to hurt IndyCar
honestly,Drugovich should do WEC or IMSA full-time
>>149232497I guess that was kind of my point. Everything in racing costs a ton of money, but divegrass is pretty cheap in comparison. All that money is going into someone's pocket.
>>149232535How? Their best race lap was 3:25.562 for the #83 and their best qualifying lap was 3:24.025 for the #50 in Hyperpole 2. It's not like they were way faster in the race than they were beforehand.
>>149232728Do we have access to the drag ratios anywhere?
>>149232483The 499P was designed by the GT car department lmao.
>>149232728Those values are all within less than 3% of one another...
>>149232915i would think those are in the homologation docs on fia's site as those are not part of the bop
>>149232629If BoP was that big of a factor, Alpine and Aston Martin would have been a hell of a lot more competitive.
>>149233024How many stupid idiots were you hoping to convince with that?
>>149232628Canโt decide the glen and road america desu. NASCAR at pocono can be hit or miss.
>>149232474>>149232629>>149232735Shit, this really might be the death blow for the Lamborghini SC63 program.
>>149233105Anyone who can do math can see it you retard.
>>149233094>those are not part of the bopThey are part of the BoP, but they do not get adjusted.
sports car excel spreadsheet optimization
>>149232728they have the worst top speed bop by a large chunk along with the pug yet they mogged everyone on the straights, the aero on the ferrari is simply too good
>>149233123watch IMSA after IndyCar because IMSA will still be going when IndyCar is done
or both at the same time you filthy casual
>>149233165>+2.2%>-3.3%I guess in India 3+2 = 3
If you had two otherwise identical hypermemes and made one 3% heavier it would be over a second a lap slower at Le Mans, 3% is fucking huge.
>>149233245what would be interesting to see is whether there is an aero efficiency limit in the regulations, I think there must be
>>149227820I fell asleep even before the race started. I might getting already much older now too.
>>149228668The Caddys suffered a little bit with pace, but for the JOTA ones, it's wasn't a bad result after all, considering that competing with the Ferraris and Porsches is nearly impossible. For the other Caddys, they need first to construct cars that hold on all the race.
>>149233288You are the one who can't even do a simple percent difference formula. Did you fail out of high school or did you just not graduate yet?
Toyota minimum weight is 1053
Aston Martin minimum weight is 1030
P=2.21%
Embarrassing.
>>149233439Along with all the cars being supposed to have the same power but not and practically identical weight distribution it's one of the core tenants of hypermeme.
>>149233643Kill yourself brown
>>149233666The only thing worse than browns is stupid whites. Your ignorance is a fucking disgrace.
Anyways I'm not going to waste my time talking about BoP on some gay gook pornography board where Rakesh will spam any fucking lie and garbage post he can think of to try to bury reality and never ever get banned because he provides CP to the mods
>>149233643not the bop values are supposed to be within x percent of each other, but the resulting laptimes/performance
>>149233439>what would be interesting to see is whether there is an aero efficiency limit in the regulationsI am looking right now. I know they run all the cars in a wind tunnel as part of the homoligation process and I think you are right that there are certain limitations, but I can't find it stated anywhere or what they might be. All I can find so far is
>The frontal surface area of the car may not be below 1.6m2I think I might have heard them say on Midweek Motorsports that the wind tunnel they use for the homoligation is in Charlotte, which I thought was odd.
>>149233666yeah probably a simple windtunnel test isn't enough to balance out the cars properly and the ferrari is actually doing somehow what the wingless pug was designed to do, the f1 experience with ground effect combined with the more lax lmh rules probably gives them an advantage
>>149233727Ha, ha. You have no argument. You got BTFO with middle school math and now you are making accusations about me doing what you do.
Sad.
>>149234640Yes of course Tom from Windows saar
>>149233955Here is the best I could find for now.
https://www.pmw-magazine.com/features/tech-insight-le-mans-hypercar-bop-analysis.html
>With respect to the aerodynamics, there are some aspects that could make a difference between two cars, even if both fulfill the regulations and achieve homologation. The rules dictate how the performance of the cars (compared with the targets) must be measured and calculated. For drag, the reference condition is representative of an end-of-straight scenario in terms of ride height (considered to be the lowest setting); however, for downforce the definition is more complex and is based on a weighted average over a wider range of ride heights, roll angles and yaw angles.>Moreover, in each aerodynamic configuration (this includes any possible setting of the single adjustable aero device the cars are permitted to deploy โ an adjustable rear wing, for example), the two target values calculated as above must remain within a given window. This is shown in Figure 1. Cx and Cz are respectively the drag and downforce coefficient of the car; they are multiplied by the frontal area to get to CxA (vertical axis) and CzA (horizontal axis) as shown in the diagram.
>>149234747You are my clown.
CAR 50 DQ FROM LE MANS
>Rear wing support not in compliance with deflection test
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/no-50-ferrari-disqualified-from-le-mans/
>>149234863Look you can deny being brown all you want but the only other alternative is you are a jewish transexual and I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt here that you only suck yiddish cock like it's your job because jeets worship Israel and not because you were born with a rabbi's cock in your mouth.
>>149235012i hope they found sg with the 51 as well.
it would make the dead championship a bit interesting again
>>149234954Yeessss
Yesssss D I E
> Jean-Eric Vergne praised his Peugeot mechanics for completing a rapid steering rack change on the No. 93 9X8 after the Frenchman encountered an overnight issue. โI could not turn left anymore,โ Vergne told Sportscar365. โI mean, I could turn, but the car would not. The team, especially the mechanics, did an amazing job. They changed the whole aero package of the car in less than 30 seconds. Steering rack in less than 5 minutes. They have been really impressive.โ
thats fuckin impressive anyhow you look at it
>>149228668>>149228762Based Cadillac enjoyers
>>149228976>maybe dont run cryptominer in the ecuKek
>>149233488Checked.
I think they could improve to be more competitive. Remember 3/4 of the Cadillacs at le Mans were run by new teams and the third was a privateer. I think Jota is the best bet, but I'm not tremendously hopeful.
Did we ever find out what the nature of the mechanical failures were on the IMSA cars? It looks like they both just stopped running completely for no particular reason. I guess that's a step up from catching fire like they had been doing.
>>149233643Man, maf be racist and sheeeiiiittt.
>>149234999> Gets exposed as mathematically illiterate >Yyy... your brown! Ooo... or a gay jew.You're not jist a clown, you the entire fucking circus.
>>149234954Being completely DQed seems a bit excessive...
I do like to see that Cadillac moving up, though.
>>149235770927/898 = 1.032
520*0.992/509*0.982 = 1.034
Die.
>>149235680>what the nature of the mechanical failures were on the IMSA cars?The only thing we know that the 101 lost oil pressure, possibly not even the team knows yet. It can be a broken seal, piping, or anything really. The moment of failure photo where the crypto joke came from
>>149235889it's a technical infringement, a performance related one
a full dq is a minimum
why ? because you won't ever be able to determine what kind of performance advantage it gave (flexi wing so it surely helped with that suspiciously high top speed btw). You cant even argue that it's damage result bc its a deflection test. The rules are clear, if you fail dq
dunno why burgers are cucked to cheaters so much
>>149235103>>149235889wouldn't be surprised if all cars had it, but since giving time penalties to the 3 cars that dominated would make the whole event look like a sham (more than it already was), they settle for disqualifying the 4th place
who was it that had that glitch 360kph?
Sports Car News: GIGAKUBICA edition
>LM24: AF Corseโs #83 499P Holds Off Porsche Charge To Win Le Mans
Results: https://www.dailysportscar.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/FIA-WEC-2025-Le-Mans-Result.pdf
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/06/15/af-corses-83-499p-holds-off-porsche-charge-to-win-le-mans.html
>LM24: Late Drama Sees Inter Europol Seal LMP2 Victory As Manthey Takes LMGT3 Spoils
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/06/15/late-drama-sees-inter-europol-seal-lmp2-victory-as-manthey-takes-lmgt3-spoils.html
>LM24: Manthey & Porsche Stay Undefeated In LMGT3 Era At La Sarthe
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/06/16/manthey-porsche-stay-undefeated-in-lmgt3-era-at-la-sarthe.html
>LM24: #50 Ferrari Disqualified For Technical Infringement
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/06/16/50-ferrari-disqualified-for-technical-infringement.html
>LM24: Le Mans Post-Race Notebook
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/le-mans-post-race-notebook-11/
>LM24: Kubica "really on the edge" with Ferrari gear shift woes en route to Le Mans victory
https://www.autosport.com/le-mans/news/kubica-really-on-the-edge-with-ferrari-gear-shift-woes-en-route-to-le-mans-victory/10733469/
>LM24: Floury: Toyota Had No Chance in โTwo-Classโ Hypercar Battle
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/floury-toyota-had-no-chance-in-two-class-hypercar-battle/
>LM24: Estre: Le Mans Runner-Up Finish โGood Surpriseโ for Porsche
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/estre-le-mans-runner-up-finish-good-surprise-for-porsche/
>LM24: Ferrari: No Qualms at No. 83 Car Beating Works Entries
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/ferrari-no-qualms-at-no-83-car-beating-works-entries/
>LM24: JOTA โWouldโve Takenโ Top-Five in First Le Mans With Cadillac
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/jota-wouldve-taken-top-five-on-first-le-mans-with-cadillac/
>LM24: Le Mans triumph is redemption for lost F1 great Kubica
https://www.the-race.com/endurance/2025-le-mans-24-hours-our-verdict/
Post-Le Mans depression is real
>>149237449Burgerking soon, however!
>>149233123bratwurst > hot dogs
>>149237336The 51 is showing a best speed of 364.24 kph.
>>149237449Yeah, I was actually already getting that feeling Friday night...
The IndyCar race was really, really good, if you haven't seen that yet.
https://www.youtube.com/live/-4gJEsg0dk0
Plus, we have so much more endurance racing to come, it's actually a bit overwhelming.
>>149237122Not only is this completely inapplicable to the wording of your own statements but would also still prove you wrong mathematically even if it was, you stupid fucking retard.
>>149235889>Being completely DQed seems a bit excessive...no it doesn't
what's stopping Ferrari from going to IMSA?
>>149238916What happened to Risi Cmpetizione of Houston, Texas? They were the 333P team of choice and the dominant Ferrari GT2 team for a decade. And then they just vanished.
Setting up tents today
https://youtu.be/_2HNvmZerMM
>>149238916Ferrari stuff in America are dealer level programs and ain't no dealer running a 499P. Factory has no reason, on the level they're marketing they gain nothing from racing in America they don't from F1 and Le Mans.
I prefer Daytona over Le Mans desu. Mainly because Iโm in the same time zone as Daytona so I can watch all the night racing
Whatever happened with the AF Corse Miami operation?
https://www.motorsport.com/imsa/news/af-corse-miami-new-raceshop/7834054/
>>149239468Great reply! I enjoyed reading your response. It was really insightful. Would you like an in-depth analysis of your reply?
>>149238733Ah I was actually in the /indy/ thread yesterday since I was watching the race on the way to work and at work
That Newgarden crash was utterly insane, and there was just such great action throughout
Love oval racing
>>149239272They had a 296 at the 2024 12 Hours of Sebring.
That faggot Jack Hawksworth ran it off the road in his Lexus before clipping the nose of a Corvette and blocking the Cadillac in its last desperate attempt to catch the Acura in he last laps ofnthe race. They also had a car at Pitet le Mans last year, too.
>>149239895Donโt talk shit about big jack
>>149238770N-nani?! Kansei dorifto?!
>>149238916Theyโd get assblasted by big dick American V8
Also NO chance of rain. Dry Ring is Worst Ring.
>>149240368Damn they might get to race more than 7 hours this is awful how will they brag the cars are 3 second apart after 24 hours if they actually race!?
>>149240368dry ring > fog red flag ring
>>149240415Fog rain 2000s or 2010-era "race regardless of whats happening" era was best
>>149226329IMSA is all customer teams. Ferrari stands to lose nothing by selling a car to an IMSA team to run independently of AFC.
>>149226576Acura literally used to race at Le Mans. regardless, nothing is stopping them from rebadging the chassis as a Honda outside of north america. it's what they did with the NSX GT3; Acura in IMSA and Honda everywhere else.
Forza Motorsport has Indy cars now
https://www.gtplanet.net/forza-motorsport-update-21-20250616/#forza-motorsport-update-20-fujimi-kaido
>Two versions of the 2025 IndyCar will be available to drive from Honda and Chevrolet. Both have a 2.2-liter, twin-turbocharged V6 making between 550 and 700hp. Both cars have the road course aero as standard, but can be fitted with the oval aero in the upgrades menu. Unfortunately, the push-to-pass and new energy recovery system are not simulated.
>>149241142>Acura literally used to race at Le MansYou want to check that one again? Those cars have never appeared at Le Mans as an Acura or even a Honda, they only left ALMS when the Acura program was shitcanned, manufacturer badging was removed from the cars entirely, and they were sold to privateers.
What you think your reply has to do with the post you're quoting I would like to know. Acura doesn't fit in NASCAR, they would rather use the Honda brand in IndyCar, and there's nothing else they can create an appropriate car for with any notability at all so if you want an Acura race car to exist then right now an Acura GTP is the only choice. It used to be there was things like the World Challenge TLX or Integras and RSXs but that doesn't work right now.
https://kleanembed.online/embed/c86928774be7a6859b2a71308ed50056
sprints cars main event on a monday
>>149241434the ARX-01, 02, and 03 all competed at Le Mans from 2010 until 2013, including winning in class for P2s. what are you talking about?
If you want to go further, an Acura LMP1 only even existed because they explicitly designed a car that could only be competitive on rinky dinky American tracks and therefore could get away with a shitty stretched LMP2 engine and high drag aero.
>what are you talking about?
What are you talking about? If you don't want to read then stop replying to me like you do, thanks.
this track is wild, one curve and half a straight doesnt even have a fence
By 2012 they were willing to badge the engines as Honda so "Honda Racing" decals started showing up on the engine covers but still not the whole car. They'd continue that way with the Ligiers and even the ARX-04 (neither the ARX-03 or ARX-04 were ever Acuras)
>>149241409Nice. More exposure is better. Also last time they didn't include superspeedway aero
>ynr the line "He doesn't believe in magic, but on Sundays Josef flys." from the FOX Indy promos
There was a a finnish poster who said 24 hour rally.
Ypress was run until 1996 kinda like that. They ran a 4 hour leg on friday and a 20 hour leg on saturday
r034
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eyyyy the idea is novel but this would just end up being an accountant competition and an even bigger ferrariwinslol as now
>>149240768hnnnnnggโฆ. I love me a foggy forest in the morning
I hate the nurburgring and shan't be watching it.
>>149246646btw is there OFFICIAL info what's up with the remaining 1 or 2 CLR chassis? There were rukors that they got secretly scrapped but I want to believe that they are just collecting dust in storage
>>149234954Was wondering why the 50 was told to let the 51 by at the end for the podium "because he was quicker" but not reversing the positions even after it was obvious 51 still couldn't catch the porsche.
>>149246754Because before le mans the 51 crew was leading ahead of the 50 in the championship
51
> 3-1-1 50
> 1-15-2
>>149246498Wonder who could be behind this post.
>>149247227forgot the pic
>>149247033Mathematically speaking, can the #51 get their WEC title already in Brazil, or is it too early to talk about it?
>>149232038i actually did not know that, i wasnt following rally too much back then, i only properly started following WRC when ott first started WRC
>>149247284Love rally stuff but wouldn't bee able to tell you any names aside from Mcrae >-@; I tried TOCA, Dirt an other games though. -also technically Gran Turismo
>>149241409Based. This is honestly the best way to attract new fans. I can't help but think Grand Turismo helped me become interested in sports car racing.
>>149246193>A Modest Proposal Kek
>>149247436I like forza too dun get me wrong but haven't played any since 360 >-@; also my 360 has rrod i'm thinking it's overheaded because towel trick works for a bit
Anyone happen to know when Royal Ascot is today? ^^
>>149247244The 51 WDC: no (100 points to go and the 83 is only 16points behind so actually Kubica has a shot at wdc)
Ferrari in WCC: yes (100 to go, they are leading with 77points)
>>149246674one of them is still around I've seen some pics of it next to a bentley speed8 at the le mans museum
https://x.com/IntercontGTC/status/1934639508944777385
Very cool to see some classic GT3s again. Miss the BRAP from zhe Z4
fellow allies, it's so over
>Iron Dames Porsche Withdrawn From Watkins Glen
Forza getting the Indycars is nice but i still think Indycar needs a proper game
>>149247375Colin admired Ari Vatanen who in addition to being one of the most legendary drivers in history, was the one who debuted the Impreza that would make the scotsman so famous. So now you have another name
>>149249216sissybros...
did a third one get injured?
>>149246193>this would just end up being an accountant competitionThis
1985 N24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-mAIYg1LN8
>>149250242right that's just gatting
and garcia was at the spanish grand prix for the pole, and her thing was in a different series altogether
https://racer.com/2025/06/17/iron-dames-withdraws-from-watkins-glen
0167p
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>>149247284well we can't see everything
>>149250590>https://racer.com/2025/06/17/iron-dames-withdraws-from-watkins-glenit's solely bc of gattings injury.
Maybe due to visa timelines they could not fly in Pin or somebody else in such a short notice ?
0450p
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>>149250750or maybe there is
>>149249216Excuse me, sir. This is an Axis thread.
>>149249885I agree on both points
Akio "Morizo" Toyoda is co-driving at the Nurburgring
https://www.24h-media.de/media-downloads/meldungen/5215.pdf
>>149251878wasnt motorsport games developing one ?
>>149252052They "were" until the scam fell apart. Nowadays Motorsport Games just a name that owns Studio 397.
In the process rFactor 2 got the IR18 and a few tracks.
>>149252052it was a fuckin scam
IndyCar should have just let Forza use the cars in the first place
>>149241409now put the Dallara in Forza Horizon 5 so I can put offroad tires, anti-lag turbo, and AWD swap it and go rallying
>>149253331they put some GT3 and GTE cars from FM into FH5 but they aren't that good for online racing in Horizon because they have too much grip and not enough power and Horizon's PI system tends to reward power over handling
>>149247379>OAK RacingHavent heard that name in a long time.
Also there was a Kolles Audi R10? WTF.
>>149253528i dont care about multiplayer so they are fun
>>149241390times posted on nurburgring youtube channel and auto addiction
Daly kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Spe2gEjTk
>>149254651link
https://www.youtube.com/c/N%C3%BCrburgring_official/streams
>>149250940>>149247896what exactly did Ford do to make the Focus competitive again in 2006? I mean, besides bringing Grรถnholm
>also who are they?
>>149228615He reeks of sharty by now
>>149254484>OAK RacingThe home town team.
>Also there was a Kolles Audi R10?It was pretty much their first sports prototype. It was also the only car they ever got across the finish line at le Mans.
>>149254960>Indycar got a raise in ratings>Fagula 1 is still holding thanks to netflix tourists
>>149207712 (OP)So many people for a racing series that is comically unpopular
>>149254756That wasn't good race strategy, but holy hell was it fun to watch!
>>149254908>what exactly did Ford do to make the Focus competitive again in 2006?They threw out 96% of the factory car and replace it with race parts.
>>149255081The important thing is that most of those people know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to motorsports.
>>149247227Aston Martin's traditions on building terrible shitboxes.
>>149247238Almost forgot that LADA actually tried to go to touring racing back in the late 2000s (I only remembered about the Lada Granta from WTCC), which is kinda curious since I don't know if LADA had that much popularity in the 2000s than it had in the LADA Riva/Niva days.
>>149247966A tear almost fell of my eye. HUGE news, to say the least. Hope it lasts for more than one year, otherwise it will be a little bit disappointing, hope they also include GT1s and GT2s to race in this series.
>>149254908>what exactly did Ford do to make the Focus competitive again in 2006?MSport doing what Msport does, when there is a big rule change (remember 2006 was the "low tech wrc" reg change which banned a lot of exotic parts, materials and techs in the sake of cost reduction) they always somehow at the front for the first 1-2 years. Since 97 they always win the first monte after a rule change.
Benik?
He was a pretty good hungarian rally driver in the mid 00s, won 3 national championships, all with the Focus 03
https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/731-balazs-benik/
He paused rallying when his first child born, butt then he started various businesses and did not get back into regular rallying despite he only planned the pause to be 2-3 years
>>149255559forgot to go through fully on the msport things. But for me it seems like they always sacrifice the year before the rule change, at least in the last 15 years (I see them running Mcerlean and Munster to be something similar as well, raking together as much money as possible for the development of the next car) and they hzave a head start on performance/development and the others slowly claw back.
Running Breen as the first driver was a mistake in 2022, Ott or even maybe the pensioner Loeb would have brought the wdc home
>>149255060impressive, nice
now lets see the global number
>>149254960Impressive how even with the race being only on streaming, NASCAR still had the best ratings than all the others on TV. I'm just missing Le Mans on this comparision.
>>149254960How does F-1 have more viewers if you limit it to the race, instead of over the whole duration? Are these averages?
>>149255764Normie shills flocking RN because of the brad pitt movie
>>149255654>now lets see the global numberAdvertisers don't really care about the rest of the world, anon.
Da Kubica.
Da Inter Europol.
Da Ford.
>>149255939this is also a problem with IndyCar holding overseas races, if a team's sponsor doesn't do business in whatever country, they don't want to pay for it. even back in the CART days some teams would have one-off Australian sponsors for Surfer's Paradise for example.
>>149255764Well the whole duration includes the pre-race and post race. Not everyone is watching that.
>>149256256>>149255939Its really the crux of the issue for the overseas races in Indycar crowd. The demography and wealth just isn't there to justify racing almost anywhere. There's a reason that Formula has have luxury brands as sponsors, the only people with any amount of disposable income are in the top few percentage points of their population, which is also dwindling.
Repeat for basically everywhere except America.
Bitch ass motherfucker needs to leave these broke ass jabronis at SPIRE and move to Penske
https://x.com/SpireMotorsport/status/1935118540601966862
leave that shitty team die out soon.
Carson Hocevar has been fined $50,000 and sent to reeducation camp for saying something disrespectful about Mexico on his twitch stream last week before the race.
>>149256256Yeah, big name drivers like Newgarden and Palou don't even have season long main sponsors. It's pretty sad that most NASCAR teams don't have a season long (let alone multiple season) sponsor either. The economy is really in the shitter and it's effecting motorsports. I think it will get worse before it gets better, but it will get better.
>>149256011Go for it mate. I have the $20 version which looks more like a toy but the one you shared seems pretty sweet
>>149255559>>149255624kรถszi, i think i see a lot of things like that very superficially
>>149255171ty i guess
>>149256447>There's a reason that Formula has have luxury brands as sponsors,have you looked at the cars.
luxury sponsors are the smallest stickers on the cars.
The sponsors mostly either regular consoooomer level (Santander, Stake, Google, Ray Ban, Duracell, etc...) or corpos (Cognizant, AWS, Oracle, etc...)
If Ray Ban or Peroni is luxury for you then you must be some ass thirld worlder
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/jani-urges-porsche-to-share-more-with-one-man-show-proton/
Jani: โOne Man Showโ Proton Needs Porsche to Share More
>Neel Jani has asked Porsche to share more information with its customer FIA World Endurance Championship team Proton Competition, which he described as a โone-man showโ following a disappointing 24 Hours of Le Mans.
>While the No. 83 Ferrari is operated as an effective extension of the works AF Corse team, with factory driver Yifei Ye part of the lineup, Proton operates completely independently of Penske and has no access to any of its data or setups.
>"Ferrari shows how you can work with customer teams. When you look at that, you have to say Ferrari is doing everything correctly. The customer team has full access to everything and it benefits Ferrari.
>โBut at the moment, we are just a one-man show. We have no idea about anything. Thatโs the main reason why we are there sometimes but never for a whole race. We are just there when everything happens to work well.
>The Swiss driver said Protonโs problems are compounded by its usual setup concept not gelling well with the new specification, particularly the revised suspension.
>โWe didnโt know why they developed it,โ said Jani. โItโs very difficult for us to figure out how to use it and which setup concept it works with.โ
It's just not like it was in the Group C days when customer teams could effectively develop their own parts and even full specification overhauls for their cars a la Kremer
>>149257706Someone once told me Peroni is Italian Bud Light
He was a bartender, so I trust his judgement. I do kinda like Peroni though. THAT"s who should have sponsored Prema at the Indy 500
>>149259265Idk lol but it's causing an absolute shitstorm
>>149259265>>149259290mexico city is a shithole, which is funny since i said the same (and worse) a couple of days ago
>>149167989
>>149258077>No. 83 Ferrari is operated as an effective extension of the works AF Corse team>Ferrari shows how you can work with customer teamsIm positive if they switched to Ferrari they would have the same results, why cant these customer teams just buy data kek
https://x.com/indy44/status/1935115167555047856
NOLAN SIEGEL ABSOLUTELY SEETHING
>>149262580sounds like daddy needs to pay up
>>149262735Little Dave is technically a pay driver too and yeah he shouldn't have fucked his wrist biking, but holy shit. can you imagine David Malukas going off like this if he was still driving for McLaren?
>>149262580do I get to say death to McLaren?
>>149263211Lundgaard is the only likable McLaren driver. but even O'Ward wouldn't fly off the handle like this.
>>149263361if we could hear LMP2 or GT3 pay driver radio I imagine this is what it would sound like
>>149258077the 83 Ferrari is not a privateer/customer team, no matter how much Ferrari tries to claim it is.
>>149262580Stupid entitled brat
>>149260336If you were on Xitter this weekend there were a ton of boomers melting down about illegals and how Mexico is too dangerous to race in and how NASCAR shouldn't race outside America because it's "abandoning its fans"
Carson Hocevar referring to Mexico City as a shithole is really tame by comparison.
>>149252421the issue is Forza don't care enough to add the calendar. they had a direct partnership with the ACO and later IMSA for a decade, and never once had the full ALMS/ELMS/WEC/IMSA calendar. the closest they got was FM7, when they were only lacking Belle Isle/Mosport/Mid-Ohio.
>>149264996you're letting perfect be the enemy of good. all I need is a current Indy car, IMS, and Road America.
>>149259265>Driver Carson Hocevar attracted criticism before the race for making derogatory comments about Mexico's capital on a Twitch stream, calling it "a s---hole" where "you canโt leave anywhere." Late Sunday night, Hocevar took to social media to issue a thorough apology.>On Tuesday, Spire Motorsportsโfor which Hocevar drives the No. 77 carโfined Hocevar $50,000 and mandated the Portage, Mich., native attend sensitivity training. The fine will be split among three charities that "serve Mexican communities.">"Carson Hocevar's recent comments made during the livestream fell short of (the standard of respect)," Spire said in a statement. "They did not represent the views of Spire Motorsports, our partners or NASCAR. He has acknowledged his mistake publicly, and his prompt, sincere apology demonstrated personal accountability."Don't do a wrongthink boys, Mexico City is so nice that people are burning down LA to not go back
>>149265192no excuses.
are you the guy who spams every thread with how much he wants to make love to Elkart Lake?
>>149265321name a permanent road course on the 2025 IndyCar schedule that is better than Road America.
>>149262580Siegel also talked shit on the radio about Rasmussen during Indy 500 practice, guess who got a podium at Gateway?
>>149265321There's more than one of us. To your point though, adding tracks isn't necessarily something they can just do at the drop of a hat. And developing is probably the easiest part, Mid Ohio may not allow thei track in video games, they may have some kind of limited exclusivity deal, or may their license fee is too high for their budget.
>>149262580that wasn't the only one, he also had a smaller meltdown during the final yellow caused by mclelens's retardation, and it ended up costing pato the race
>pato's radio>>>/wsg/5902133>seagull's radio>>>/wsg/5902135>>149265702laguna seca
>>149266271>Laguna SecaI can't agree. From a technical perspective they're close, but I have to give RA credit for the length of their straights. RA has two things going for it that severely impact Laguna Seca: motherfucking trees. RA is just beautiful in person or on television, by comparison Laguna Seca looks like a Fallout New Vegas expansion. The second is the local support, Laguna Seca is constantly under threat from the people who live around it that impose godawful restrictions on the track. RA has no such problems.
I won't comment on Laguna Seca's visitor policies or experience as I haven't been to race there, but RA sets the standard in value for money.
>>149266271>laguna secasecond best road course on the IndyCar schedule and second best road course in the USA. mostly because of the Corkscrew. Road America is a better track overall and has much better attendance.
>>149266375>b..but what about Watkins Glen reeeedecent track, but nothing special. poor attendance for IndyCar. show up for IndyCar races you northeast fuckers.
>>149266358>RA sets the standard in value for money.this, only someone who hasn't been there would dare talk shit. it's the best.
>>149266126Forza Motorsport has IMS, Road America, Laguna Seca, and Mid-Ohio for current IndyCar tracks
>>149266412It actually surprised me when I looked at going to other road courses and finding out that they charge for parking and paddock access. Everyone should experience RA to know just how good things can be.
>>149266446Then perhaps there are additional considerations regarding licensing for usage of the tracks in game. These things are complicated from a legal and financial standpoint and they're not about to tell us why they did or didn't do soemthing. We're lucky to get a vague allusion from a producer regarding these things.
>>149266573>It actually surprised me when I looked at going to other road courses and finding out that they charge for parking and paddock access. Everyone should experience RA to know just how good things can be.THIS
>>149266598I was actually worried when the Tufte family sold off their interest in RA to an international investment group. Since owning it though, they've invested a shitload of money and they haven't changed any of the visitor policies. It was to the point where they weren't even unhappy to see Nascar go, in part because they had to charge for parking for Nascar's sanctioning fee, which they hated doing.
>>149266721>charging for parking>at Road Americalol, wasn't nascar supposed to be the "blue collar working man's" motorsport?
>>149266785Their ticket prices were insane, too. They had to open the Plymouth high school parking lot and run shuttles to the track so it didn't seem to matter. I went to the first Xfinity race and it wasn't nearly that bad.
Watching a torrent of the NASCAR race. I don't watch it often but heard it was a decent race.
But I gotta ask.... HOW THE FUCK do you yanks tolerate the constant ad breaks and interruptions? What the actual fuck. Half the race broadcast was under split screen to show adverts. How the fuck haven't you cunts rioted yet?
>>149262580never has this pic been more appropriate
>>149267390I've been using illegal streams since high school in 2008-2009, first site I remember visiting was atdhe. I've never had a cable TV package and the TV in my living space is connected to my PC as a second monitor. I don't remember the last time I watched the actual USA feed of a Nascar event.
Nascar like most american sports is also a passive thing you just have on in the background while you do something else, and turn to look at during loading screens or anytime something happens. It's not meant for you to watch every single lap.
>>149267697So there's international feeds available for nascar that are ad free?
>>149246754>>149234954there was a team radio for #51 to stay away from #50 because "it could lose parts"
they knew something worked its way loose already
>>149256011>2024>Da jewI'd wait until next year when this years model comes out.
>>149267726yes.
basically the ad breaks are only on usa tvs.
international broadcasters are running ad free.
For me it's /FAT/ Kremers
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mcerlean-on-track-for-a-second-rally1-season/
Munster being shit really does a favor for McErlean
>>149267726Yes. Most of them, actually. International broadcasts use a standard feed that shows onboards or even the race while the US feed is showing commercials, the only problem is that it loses some things from the US broadcast.
Lol guys I think no one posted the caddy toilet from le mans
updated gigkubica :-DDDDD
https://youtu.be/tNY1X7xcqMg?si=64tmbPUITVDCurJz
https://www.onlyendurance.com/vanwall-isotta-fraschini-asian-le-mans-hypercar/
EXCLUSIVE: Vanwall and Isotta Fraschini confirm Asian Le Mans Series interest
>Both Vanwall and Isotta Fraschini, former competitors in the FIA World Endurance Championship's Hypercar class, are looking at competing in the class in the Asian Le Mans Series, Only Endurance can reveal.
>'Yes, there is interest. I think we will,' Vanwall team boss, Colin Kolles, told Only Endurance.
>While the team has designed a new car, Kolles confirmed Vanwall will likely race the old car in AsLMS in 2026-27.
>'The time is too short to homologate the new car. 2026 now, it's too late for us, because we want to be well prepared.
>'Due to the circumstances of supplier issues, you have to have long lead times. And we cannot place orders without knowing if we can race or not.'
>However, the engine in the car, a Gibson GL458, was at a significant power deficit. At times, the 4.5-litre, naturally aspirated V8 engine was at a power deficit of up to 60kW, or 80 horsepower, compared to the competition. With Hypercars having a maximum power of 520kW as per the technical regulations, that's more than 10% of the total power.
>Kolles confirmed to Only Endurance that the car would run in AsLMS with this engine, but he is waiting for clarification regarding the regulations to proceed further.
>Like Vanwall, Isotta Fraschini has also expressed an interest in racing in the new AsLMS top class in 2026-27, the team confirmed to Only Endurance.
>While there are 'multiple options' available to the team, one of those routes is 'through partners', a representative said.
Pog. The Vanwall 480 was one of my personal favourites and I'm looking forward to hearing that LMP1 spec Gibson V8 at Sepang some day
>'The team will likely be ByKolles, running a Vanwall car,' Kolles said, although added he is waiting for clarification on whether this is possible from the ACO.
kek the joke kinda writes itself
>>149258077>Proton operates completely independently of Penske and has no access to any of its data or setups.I would think that Porsche would want to have successful customer cars to entice other customers to adopt their car, but I guess they just DHAF. Sad.
>>149257706Rolex, Tag and Gucci all were F1 title sponsors for races.
>>149264090>abandoning its fansMan, that ship sailed a long, long time ago.
>>149268764BASED
I hope they qualify for the next lemans through alms:D
>>149269033(there was no gucci, but lv. but one is bigger gypsy brand than the other so not really surprising)
rolex sponsors all kinds of races (daytona, le mans?) and half of the races are sponsored by heineken, pirelli or lenovo for example.
>1,061,000 viewers for Streets of Detroit
>1,012,000 viewers for Gateway
That's it, we're having a Streets of St. Louis night race next year.
>>149269851We need chicagoland back too as michigan
>>149267390>HOW THE FUCK do you yanks tolerate the constant ad breaks and interruptions?We don't, we just watch the international feeds whenever they are avaliable. Also, you really do just tune it out as background noise.
>>149267726Do you know the main streaming sites?
I can help you, but I don't like to post them too much. One will actually get you auto ban, for some reason.
>>149268764>Gibson GL458, was at a significant power deficit. At times, the 4.5-litre, naturally aspirated V8 engine was at a power deficit of up to 60kW, or 80 horsepowerGood lord, that's brutal. I'm also a little surprised that a Gibson engine would be so shit.
neuvilles long time co-driver got really fucked
>>149269691Dixon sponsored by beer pong.
>>149270111No that's Palou's car
>>149270453they havent answered yet to the questions of the site
>>149270516bring back all the shitter cars
>>149270098Imagine being him rn.
He broke up with neuville due to money
Neuville got to be World Champion
In the meantime, instead of becoming world champion, Gilsoul went on to be a codriver of Loubet until he realised it's not a life insurance to sit next to someone who crashes left and right
>>149270565gilsoul would be the first in the active co driver wins if he'd stuck around, did he really leave because of money? what a dumbfuck if true
on another kino note, rally estonia 2025 marshalling confirmed for 4 days so expect to see some pictures from that while im there
https://racer.com/2025/06/18/juncos-hollinger-seeks-new-investment
Why does facebook suggests me Hollie Mcrae's private (the type whn someone uses only part of their name to be not discovered by randos) fb profile to add as friend constantly in the last few days
>>149270594Yes they could not agree on money. More so they actually had an agreement but Nicolas bailed out 6 days before that years monte
> It is understood that Neuvilleโs 11th hour change of co-driver is because of a contractual disagreement between Neuville and Gilsoul. While Neuville has a contract with Hyundai Motorsport, Gilsoul had one with Neuville who paid him for his services.https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuville-had-to-find-new-co-driver-as-gilsoul-talks-stalled/
>>149270691its like my 5th or 6th year already, i cant even remember, 8 euro an hour to watch rally cars basically, and ive come up with a system to get the most calm locations where there isnt many people so i basically have to do nothing
>>149269771Watch some crayon-eaters steal a hauler.
>>149270707ah you select your marshall post ?
>>149270752technically you cant "select" one cause they call out at random but youre encouraged to take initiative so i have the live marshall map open that shows all marshall posts so i kinda tactically plan ahead locations and if im at some preferred spots for me i just stand up before anyone else
>>149270538>bring back all the shitter carsYes, please do. The SCG 007 is my favorite Hypercar along with the Valkyrie.
>>149271539Did Glickenhaus sell off all of his SCG assets yet?
>>149268464Actual fact, most Le Mans toilets were dire with the exception being the Le Mans museum. Casa Ferrari patrons are animals.
>>149271676The cars and parts are in their storage, the team was ran by a service provider iirc. So refuelling rigs and such are not in their possession
Tomorrow is the 25th anniversary of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF-VhY6fitU
What time does the Nurburgring 24 hour starts?
>>14927285515:40 CEST the formation lap starts on Saturday
>>149273490new bread
>>149273490new bread
KANPAI~
>>149271693That's sad. Every track I have been to in the US has actually been pretty decent except one or two small dirt and drag tracks and those were just dirty with dirt and spider webs, bot filth and trash.
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