>Don't worry, the CUM World Cup will be popul-ACK

>>149287331 (OP)
ICE effect

>>149287331 (OP)
Alexis Lalas is a bit right about American soccer culture being better when it was more regional, and in essence it's in two different positions, on the Liberal Coasts it's more of a generational game, something that you play cause your dad played, especially with the current generation of children.
Meanwhile in the Midwest and South it's still very early in its development, their balmy summers were more suited towards baseball and football which include a lot more standing around or basketball which can easily be played indoors on a hot day.
Soccer meanwhile has a strong "this needs to be outdoors" philosophy and includes a lot of running around.
Had they held all the games between Seattle and LA and between Boston and DC they'd not have had these problems, hell if they had a branch between Omaha and St. Louis it probably would have turned out better.
But they decided to host these matches in places that it's just not quite there yet in popularity that the little kids are begging their parents to see Chelsea and there aren't dad's who feel like they need to show their kid Thomas Muller playing for Bayern in a real match.

>>149287528
>on the Liberal Coasts it's more of a generational game, something that you play cause your dad played, especially with the current generation of children.
>Meanwhile in the Midwest and South it's still very early in its development, their balmy summers were more suited towards baseball and football which include a lot more standing around or basketball which can easily be played indoors on a hot day.
You literally have it backwards. The midwest is where all the soccer was happening in the US from the 50s to the 90s.

>>149287528
without promotion/relegation the MLS got stagnant quick
they used all the hype from the '94 cup to get the thing going but completely neglected the underlying foundation due to the fatcat owners not wanting their darling investments to come under any threat
shouda kept the hockey-style shootouts, too

now with this cup expanding the teams to 48 people see it for the shameless cashgrab that it is
i shan't be watching

I guess local preferences matter in sporting events, who knew.

>>149287528
>Meanwhile in the Midwest and South it's still very early in its development
This is a weird take that gets constantly spouted.

Southern teams lead the MLS in attendance.

>>149287331 (OP)
the 1994 world cup is still the most attended world cup ever (partly because of the bigger stadiums but really a lot of people went)
and soccer is many times more popular now than it was in 1994
nobody gives a shit about this glorified friendly cash grab tournament with games like some morocco shitter versus kiwi fc at 3pm during the workday all for the low price of $200

>>149287331 (OP)
Attendance really isn't that bad

>>149290677
MLS isn't stagnant, its in a way better place than it was 15 years ago.

It gets decent attendance and most of the league now has nice soccer specific stadiums, nice facilities, a feeder team, and a youth academy. This was not the case 10-15 years ago.

>>149291177
For the supposedly hottest thing in club football right now, it definitely is bad. Not like every game has to be sold out, but an average of 80% isn’t that much to ask for. Even if you ignore the expectedly low turnout for games between minnows, it remains rather underwhelming

>>149291294
I feel like you're not considering how many of these games are in the middle of the work day.

>>149291210
it's getting stagnant since they can't just ride the expansion wave forever

>>149291424
This
People who don't work M-F are either black or illegal, blacks only care about basketball and why would illegals willingly go to a gringo public space

>>149291294
I don’t think any place could ever pull an average capacity of over 80% unless you are literally giving away tickets like Russia and Qatar

>>149287528
>their balmy summers were more suited towards baseball and football
Youth soccer and football play during the same fucking season, you retard

>>149287331 (OP)
It's insane that they're still holding the World Cup in the US next year. No rational person is ever going to consider traveling to the US right now.

>>149292265
ok mahmoud

>>149291177
The stadiums are too big for a place with no footie culture

>>149292336
Bro

>>149292265
America is on the decline but people are still going to come easily. Dude.... the last two world cups were in RUSSIA and QATAR lol. The anti-pr stuff didn't work

>>149296574
I don't know bro... Mind you this is with a weakened dollar so it's actually a lot cheaper for Europeans to visit the US than in the past. I wouldn't call Qatar a success either. They had to hire Indians to pretend to cheer for certain countries because there just weren't enough fans in Qatar to cheer for them lol.

>>149292445
To be fair Atlanta averages 45k for MLS, they've just been give weekday day games so far.

>>149287331 (OP)
>South Americans will still claim this is a legitimate and competitive torunament

>comparating clubs and selections
the state of this board

>>149287331 (OP)
The only reason this won't happen at the World Cup is because people will go in droves.
The average American generally doesn't like football, and the Mexicans who live there are afraid of ICE.

>>149296783
Do empty stands make the player better or worse?

>>149296753
Well I still think it's a significantly easier sell for people to visit America compared to Russia/Qatar even with conceptions in mind.

If the world cup does massively botch though I'll be happy because I don't want halftime show culture to be permanent

>>149291177
so can we finally admit that no one IRL cares or are we supposed to tow the line that whoever admits this is coping or some bs?

>>149287331 (OP)
All we have to do is be better than a sandnigger hosted world cup and a russian hosted world cup which will be easy.

>>149291210
It is stagnant because there is no incentive to not be shit. Because like the other guy said you have the owners who don’t want to lose money on their investment. It’s not THE problem but it is A problem.

>>149296822
You still lost to an MLS team with a washed Messi and Suarez. No amount of copium is going to save you

>>149296753
>>149292446
Love this butthurt cope. You alarmist fetish doesnt mean shit Ahmed.

>>149297026
>It is stagnant because there is no incentive to not be shit. Because like the other guy said you have the owners who don’t want to lose money on their investment. It’s not THE problem but it is A problem.
That's actually a good thing.
We want owners to spend money on academies and infrastructure- long lasting things that grow the league, not player salaries.

Stadiums, facilities and academies grow a league, not players.

>>149297044
>2023 to 2024
Hmm... I wonder if something happened that might have soured the relations between US and Europe in 2025?

>>149297144
Buddy you act like travel declined 50%. You retarded western euro countries voted for liberal governments for the 60th decade in a row and you keep your borders open and import third worlders. Who cares what your sentiments of the US are? You are retarded. And you will still visit the US because your little left wing emotional bullshit doesnt mean anything. 2025 international travel maybe down a couple percentage points and who cares.

The attendance is naturally low due to mid week day games and not all of them being major teams that Americans would know, or even Americans who know and love soccer they may not be too interested in going too far out of their way to see a game against a team from Tahiti versus South Africa. But there is a lot because of ice. Just today the LA Dodgers refused and blocked ice from setting up in their parking lot. People are afraid to go to these events and don't want to come into the country to see their team because they are afraid of what is going on

>>149297144
I think we blew up the nordstream or something

I remember people saying:
>UK will be a disaster
>China will be a disaster
>South Africa will be a disaster
>Russia will be a disaster
>Qatar will be a disaster

>>149297201
You threatened economic war in Europe
No one cares about the mass deportations of latinxoids but declaring economic war to Europe through tariffs and telling Ukraine to fuck off were steps too far

>>149297240
>Brazil will be a disaster
And then it just turns out fine.

>>149297229
that was Ukraine

>>149291177
>japanese club only drew 17% in washington
grim
are there no californian stadiums hosting matches?

>>149297245
This. Latinx and middle eastern may be afraid to come in, but Euros will refuse to come to the US because they don't like long term allies stabbing them in the back

>>149297294
could have sworn we did that. nobody seems to remember the biggest terrorist attack on infrastructure since 9/11 anyways.

>>149297201
The dollar is weaker than ever. The Euro is stronger than ever. And still travel is down massively. There's no other way to spin it. Europeans don't want to visit your country because of your retarded demented president flipping off his closest allies while bending over for fucking Russia of all countries.

>>149297309
There are matches at the Rose Bowl

>>149290677
Promotion relegation faggots are the worst
There's no such thing as relegation in the biggest leagues no one would ever allow a man utd to be relegated
Muh promotion relegation, you're literally arguing for something that has no consequence, you're saying bottom of the table sides are what you're concerned with the most

>>149297144
>>149297201
>>149297229
>>149297245
>>149297317
Sports doko?

>>149297338
Euro stronger than ever? The dollar is literally stronger to the euro than it was 4 years ago, zoom out on the graph. More theater from the swedish femboy of course. All travel is down because of global economics its that simple. You are blowing this out of proportion because orange nazi made you butthurt I can see through it and its pretty funny.

>>149297338
people didn't have any problem visiting Russia even after they invaded and annexed Crimea.

Tariffs are retarded but I don't really see how that's worse.

>>149297371
Manchester United are a small club now. They let Tottenham win a trophy.

if this was the confederations cup attendance probably wouldnt be an issue
half the participants are teams no one's ever heard of
>ulsan hd vs. mamelodi
meme games like this is not gonna draw a crowd like south korea vs. south africa might

Can you people take this shit to /pol/

>>149297502
no
i will talk about it on the sports board because i am a fag

>>149297415
Sorry fren will stop now

why aren't they playing the games in the evening

Would've been fine if the tournament was hosted in one city and the games weren't played at retarded times.

>>149291037
The southern mls teams are in areas where people have more disposable income. The people there still aren't as passionate about soccer as people in the west coast so they are less likely to go these CWC games that feature euro teams. They basically don't care.

>>149297606
One city wouldn't have been possible but one state would have been way better. California has enough stadiums to host it by itself

>>149297751
Could have had an LA group and a Silicon Valley group, with 4 stadiums in LA and 3 in SV.

>>149297751
blame it on having a retarded cum bid versus a normal one

>>149297044
that's honestly disgusting, we should be doing our best to close off even more

>>149298042
not bad for a country thats only a few hundred years old.

>>149297796
>3 in SV
Would they really use the Coliseum tho? It's falling apart

>>149298042
It's literally free money, we should be doing more to promote tourism here.

>>149298146
Levi, Stanford, Earthquakes stadium

>>149298205
>Stanford
forgot about that one, speaking of college stadiums can USC and Cal's stadium fit a soccer field? That's two more venues right there