Thread 149432843

Why are all the argies eliminated but the hues aren't?
Are argies screwed over by UEFA cucking their players from them more than Brazil?
Is it because Brazilians speak Portuguese and not Spanish?

Is it because argies are incredibly poor and assraped by inflation?

argentina population: 45 million
brazil population: 9 trillion

brazil can export thousands of macacos and still have plenty to spare. argentina exports their best players and what's left is mediocre in comparison
also brazilian clubs pay 10 times better

hello chikaner

>>149432843 (OP)
FIFA invited bover instead of the best Argie teams

>>149432897
but per capita argentina is better at soccer

>>149432843 (OP)
We're better at football. Simple as.

>>149433156
wrong
argentina is

italy is better than argentina btw apparently

>>149433171
kek brazil is below france
i'm starting to see another reason for their butthurt

>>149433171
Now do one with China, USA, Mexico, India, Russia etc.
>oh no, per capita is a meme
yea
>>149432843 (OP)
>Are argies screwed over by UEFA cucking their players from them more than Brazil?
Argentinian clubs are so poor that they get screwed over BOTH by Brazil and UEFA. Just notice how many argies play in our league.

>>149433171
>per capita
lmao nice cope

>>149432843 (OP)
they (boca, river) shouldn't even be in this fucking meme cup
they entered for political reasons just like messi's team

>>149433225
we americans don't care about soccer
they don't either

Bring it on.

>>149433315
>coping the cope with another cope

Brazilians are less chimpanzees.

>>149432843 (OP)
Brazil's clubs are like the premier league of South America with infinity money (relatively speaking), while Argentina is like a shitty farmer's league with 50+1 rule.

Gap will only increase, as Brazilian clubs are ran like soulless enterprises, whereas Argie clubs are still socios.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>149433315
>we americans
abdul pls

>>149432843 (OP)
The answers here OP >>149433156
Similar to how half of the La Liga and Bundes teams are out but all the Prem sides are through

We're better at football. Simple as.

>>149433354
If you add EPL it beats NHL

>>149433225
>Argentinian clubs are so poor that they get screwed over BOTH by Brazil and UEFA. Just notice how many argies play in our league.

Just 3, in the four brazilian teams that reached the Round of 16 of this CWC.

>>149433361
but the top brazilians still go to europe
europe is still cucking brazil as well as argentina

>>149433415
see
>>149433171

>>149433361
>whereas Argie clubs are still socios.

"socios"? Who pay the salaries of the argentinian players in the argentinian league, and what makes it different from how it happens in Brazil's league?

>we started to care about copalib, used to be just a mickey mouse cup for argies and uruguaios to see who refballs who more
>our economy went more stable
>with social media, popular clubs started to make fortunes with marketing/sponsorship
>VAR introduced, less murderball and dirty play so skilled players were benefited
>argentina went really poor, economy in shambles, inflation
I still hope our hermanos will recover. I used to respect Boca, River, Independiente, etc a lot, they were seen as out of this world clubs. A clash between them and our top clubs would make the country stop to watch, this isnt true anymore unfortunately.

>>149432843 (OP)
https://youtu.be/lB6OtP0RdDw
https://youtu.be/rACFGTWdXco


We're better at football. Simple as.

this is nuts

>>149433171
you're fat lol

>>149433171
world cup per capita KWAB

>>149432843 (OP)
because we are better, just look at the last 6 winners of libertadores, all us.

>>149432843 (OP)
Historic Heatwave made the weather favorable to Brazilian clubs. Rio de la Plata is about as temperate as California or Italy, Brazilian Clubs regularly play in hot balmy conditions.

>>149433171
>we have 0.00032636 more world cups per capita than you
Lmao

>>149432843 (OP)
For some years now, there has been a Brazilian dominance in Conmebol, the fact all 4 Brazilian teams are the last 4 libertadores winners should tell you that much. Why does that happen, you may ask? No clue, im not the most avid footie fan desu

>>149433596
>respect
I want every club in the world, except the one I like, to fail tbqhwyf

>>149438988
what's that

>>149439094
South american champions league

>>149439018
what's the liberty doors?

>>149439118
but everyone good from south America went to Europe..

>>149439121
>>149439136
This whole conversation makes me feel like a kindergarten teacher

Argentinian football is a fraud. Technically, it’s extinct stuck in time just like Uruguay’s. But football has always been Argentina’s biggest tool for nationalist propaganda. In 1978, for instance, the Argentine dictatorship literally bought their way to the title - something even former players have admitted. The same kind of manipulation happened frequently in Copa Libertadores and Copa América. In 2018, two Argentine teams reached the final, but only after a campaign full of absurd red cards, a Brazilian team being banned, and even a handball goal being allowed. Everything was orchestrated to set up a River vs Boca final, because after VAR was implemented, they could no longer rig matches in the open. And what happened next? Seven years and counting without a single title.

Add that to Maradona’s hand of God and the blatant favoritism Argentina received from FIFA in the last World Cup, and you’ll realize: Argentinian football is the most overrated thing in this sport.

>>149433596
>we started to care about copalib
>VAR introduced
I don't want to come off as arrogant but these two things cannot be understated. Brazil spent decades ignoring the Libertadores in favour of state/national championships and European tours. In the 2000s you could already see a Brazilian strenghtening trend in the competition. Even though only São Paulo and Inter managed to win, Brazilians were featured in the finals almost every year. Palmeiras, São Caetano, Santos, Atlético-PR, Grêmio, Fluminense and Cruzeiro were all finalists. Brazil has been dominating the competition since Inter won again in 2010, and the gap has been widening ever since.

But although economic matters are indeed important, I feel like they're secondary to the Brasileirão's superior league structure. Brazilian football has come a long way in terms of professionalism, structure and competitiveness since the introduction of the 20 clubs, 4 relegated league system. National competitions were a pathetic mess until the 90s. Rules would change every year, the competitions were barely profitable, and every 5 years or so we'd get something like Copa União, the 1996 scandal or Sandro Hiroshi. Ten years ago we were all laughing at Flamengo's medical staff carrying an injured Paulo Victor in a cartwheel during training. If Brazilian football is richer and more competitive now, we owe it to the model that made it viable. Now take a look at the Argentinians and see how they're doing it.

because argies are all frauds

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

>>149433171
You need to understand that Uruguay is part of the Brazilian Cisplatina.

>>149432843 (OP)
Boca and river went there by ranking. The brazilian team went there by being champions

>>149433171
BASED AND REDPILLED
HOW CAN THE REST OF THE WORLD EVER RECOVER FROM THIS

>>149433171
Lmao what a stupid statistic
It would make sense if it was a sport where each country can send unlimited participants based only on performance, but each country can only send 1 team
If Brazil was never a federation, but 26 different countries, you'd have every World Cup 4 who are consistently Argentina tier and a ton that out of nowhere would have one or more world class generational talents
If the federation didnt exist, the combined wins of those countries would be waaay higher than 5 (and consequently the other countries would have less historical wins)

>>149441814
holy mother of COPE

>>149439296
>Argentinian

>>149432843 (OP)
We took the remaining good players they still had.
Also they refuse to sell the soul of their clubs. Palmeiras is almost owned by a very hawkish bank and botafogo is owned by an american

>>149439326
League got better but NT went to shit. Zoomers see Brazil as a based boomer World Cup quarterfinals team.

>>149441814
how can you be so assmad by such blatant bait, macaco?

>>149432843 (OP)
Argies best player aren't even playing with their clubs.

>>149433171
Uruguay hasn't won anything in million years.

>>149433171
The meme pre-world war cups shouldn't fucking count.

>>149442578
>>149442572
cope seethe and dilate

>>149442147
I'll write in some tone indicators next time so special people like yourself can also participate in the conversation

>>149432843 (OP)
Riggi rigged it against them
Shame on you Riggi Cuckitini

>>149441955
There are many theories for that, from the many changes in rules, not only of the sport but field size and such to modern tactics that goes against our "traditional brazilian school" of individualism and creativity. How kids these days don't play on the street anymore and other stuff.
But I think we just don't have any middle to forward outstanding players since Neymar. Vini, Raphinha and Rodrygo are great but they're nowhere near prime Neymar level. Hell, I don't think we have any chance without current Neymar that can't play ten straight matches without getting injured. Maybe round16 at most.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAguK4fLOiM

>>149433171
The post that obliterated South America (except Eliteguay)

>>149445758
it works for me because we are basically italian anyways

>>149432843 (OP)
this >>149433086
i have a feeling that will be a reocurring problem with the CWC if it keeps going, clubs change way more in the span of 4 years than countries
a club that won copalib 4 years ago could be fighting relegation now

>>149445966
Most likely in Brazil. Fluminense won Libertadores 2023 and almost got relegated in the next year. I have no idea what Textor will do to Botafogo after what happened to Lyon and I think besides Palmeiras and Flamengo, any club here is at the risk of relegation every year.

>>149446031
yeah that's what i meant
also the elo/ranking system is even more retarded than letting in a team that was good 3-4 years and is shit now, just look at how shit bover was, useless statistic
even sudamericana shitters would have more merit

>>149446031
>>149446066
Oh yeah, forgot to say that, besides Fluminense, last year we had Grêmio and Atletico-MG fighting relegation until the last matches of Brasileirão.
And Atletico-PR, 2022 finalist, was actually relegated. So we could have them playing this CWC while being in the second division of the brazilian league.
Hell, current standings have Internacional fighting for relegation while in the round16 of both Libertadores and Copa do Brasil.

But yeah, they need to rethink how they decide who will be in the next CWC. Maybe actually rethink the rankings to consider how well they are in their own national league besides the continental one. Recent years ranking preceding the earlier ones. Don't know.

>>149446143
Damn, only noticed now how Fortaleza and São Paulo are pretty shitty this year and still have chances to do a good Libertadores.
And funny how both Fluminense and Atletico-MG are pretty decent this year compared to the previous one. I think they both are prime contenders for Sudamericana alongside Bahia. But maybe that's more of a /copalib/ thing.

>>149433171
good post
makes em mad

>>149445941
you're not italian
you're not med
you're not european
you're not latin
you're not roman
you're just a third world spanish speaking latino

>>149433171
we're not last theres only like 15mil REAL WHITE ENGLISH

>>149450764
90% of your team isn't actually english though

>>149432872
we dont have inflation anymore

everyone realized the argie league is fucking garbage and their most 'iconic' teams got their shit pushed in and got fucking exposed. the world laughs at them, theyre fucking BUMS and theyre POOR

>>149452826
>got fucking exposed
both of them got knocked out at their home ground last month bro

>>149432843 (OP)
Because one of them has a better record against brazilians than the top 5 Brazilians combined against any other argentinian teams, but they chose to hold this cup when they are at their weakest since the invention of the penicillin

>>149453055
Boca Jr won half by buying refs,

>>149453142
Not really, but you can post some hard proof of all the series Boca won doing this, like when we ran a train on Santos or Gremio
Kinda like pic related

>>149432843 (OP)
>Is it because Brazilians speak Portuguese and not Spanish?

Yeah, we brazilians speak like educated people and not like crazy nervous people with tongue-tied lisp.

BOTAFOGO > REAL MADRID

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