>>149435640 (OP)>Are they actually going to do something relevant for once?You have to consider how many bandwagoners jumped onto the BVB train after 2011. The club wasn't small, don't get me wrong, but they were nowhere near being seen as "the second big man in Germany". They had barely escaped financial ruin in 2005, and both their revenue and membership numbers were half that of HSV
In short, the club was ill-equipped to be a real challenger for Bayern, and the club is run in a mediocre way just as you would expect when you consider the Klopp era a fluke, albeit one that brought them to the big money pots, so they can't fall down all the way. Now you have tons of gloryhunter Dortmund fans who still want you to see them as soulful because at least they aren't Bayern fans. That's with the baseline of Ruhrpott identity gone wrong: the same attitude that makes >Schalke fans beloved soulful proles can make Dortmund fans really annoying since they live in a bigger city and got high on their own farts, thinking they are a global icon
In short, it shouldn't surprise you that the club and the fans are like this. It's a respectable club, but just not fit for greatness structurally and mentally. The perfect victim for Bayern and the like