Thread 149713459

>only 22 people have won the world cup more than once
>21 people have won it twice
>only Pele has won it thrice
How can anyone deny him GOAT status?

Pele never won a world cup tho, he just won the Jules Rimet plumberball trophy

>>149713487
>nooo you can't just count CWC's, you have to include this thing before it!!
>NOOOOO THAT WASN'T THE WORLD CUP BECAUSE IT USED A DIFFERENT TROPHY

Some people just want to be contrarian or simply have an IQ under 80

>>149713487
The FIFA World Cup, often called the World Cup, is an international association football competition among the senior men's national teams of the members of the Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA), the sport's global governing body. The tournament has been held every four years since the inaugural tournament in 1930, with the exception of 1942 and 1946 due to the Second World War.

>>149713459 (OP)
how many of those 21 people who have won it twice are in the GOAT debate? yeah, none
thats because the 4-7 games every 4 years shouldn't be the end-all to the GOAT debate, especially when for 90% of the rest of his career he played against farmers.

also he barely played in one of those world cups

>>149713459 (OP)
You can't

>>149713459 (OP)
>brazilian mbappe

>>149713459 (OP)
this is nuts

It's almost like Europe lost 60 millions people in WW2 who could have been footballers in 58 and 62

https://www.britannica.com/sports/Jules-Rimet-Trophy
cuz he didn't really win any WC
these 3 "WC" had only 10 teams or 16 teams back then
they are like Audi cup nowadays, but Brazil and Pele forced Fifa to call them WC later on lol

>>149716702
kek never seen this cope before

>>149716784
do you get bullied for being half south american?

>>149716802
>projecting
do you get bullied for being a nigger?

>>149716799
KEK THIS

>>149716702
>belgium spitting factos

>>149713459 (OP)
Better than messi riggitini

the cosmos never won a conCACAf champions cup

>>149713487
fpbp

>>149713459 (OP)
thats like 12 superbowls

>>149716784
The TROPHY was called jules rimet, the tournament was called World Cup and organised by fifa

JEWELS REMAIN STILL GLEAMING

>>149713459 (OP)
He only played 2 matches in the 62 wc

As we all know, every World Cup except 1966 was rigged anyway and doesn’t count.

>>149713487
o chicaninho

>>149715775
>how many of those 21 people who have won it twice are in the GOAT debate?
The real Ronaldo

This is nuts

>>149713459 (OP)
they be like:
>nooooo it doesn't count, because we were bad back then.
>now that we are gud, it counts, ok?

>>149728250
people REALLY dont want the goat of soccer to be black

>>149725561
Didn't R9 play 0 matches in the 94 WC?

>>149715775
Aren't they all Brazilian or pre war Italians?

>>149715775
>especially when for 90% of the rest of his career he played against farmers.
Brazilian league was comparable to top European leagues back then
how are zoomers so stupid

>>149728463
People refuse to acknowledge that those farmers beat European teams 3 tournaments out of 4

>>149728530
yeah
there were some meme teams in the Paulista championship but is that really so much different than Messi statpadding against Eibar, in this era of football where the power disbalance between the richest few and the rest of clubs is the biggest than it has ever been

>>149715775
>pele is shit he played against farmers
>messi is so godd did you see how many goals he scored against apoel nicosia

>>149715775
the fact that garrincha and vava easily carried that brazil side to the cup in '62 really shows pele was a systembabby

>>149713459 (OP)
pelel never had the balls to play in europe tho

>b-but brazil league in pele era was similar level in eropean league
[citation needed]

>>149730916
>>149730916
No one has scored more goals against Real Madrid than Lionel Messi. So this diss doesn't even work LOL

why does pele make them seethe

>>149734996
Probably hipsterism mainly. Feeling smart because you realize doped optimized modern footballers are technically better than past footballers. Maybe some butthurt at old """"""""conservative"""""""""" people

yeh Pele is the GOAT of his era. Too bad then that that is where it ends, comparing sportsmen from different eras is stupid - at least have a comparison where the competition and the sport is similar

>>149715775
whenever he played with Santos against top European teams, he showed immense superiority, so stop saying that and embarrassing yourself

>>149728463
>Brazilian league was comparable to top European leagues back then
They were farmers too

>>149713487
>it's not the same tournament because the trophy had a different name
extra chromosome?

>>149728297
Sounds like Pele in 1962.

>>149713459 (OP)
>be black
>be third worlder
>be good a playing ball
color me surprised

>>149734506
He also played the most vs real in a stacked barca. His eibar gpg is insane tho

>>149741195
His ratio against Madrid is better...hat-trick when he was 19....which makes Madrid bigger farmers than Eibar eh?

>>149743596
no it's not

>>149713459 (OP)
'62 was all Garrincha though
>21 people have won it twice
Any non-Brazilians? I assume not but maybe I'm missing someone.

>>149725561
he should've won 3 though, the french did something to him

When did FIFA begin sucking him off?
His effort in 1958 is impressive, but he did not play most of Brazil's run in 1962 including the final and it was years until FIFA rewrote the rules to give winners medals to squadmembers who didn't play in the final.
In 1966, Brazil was eliminated in the group stage and Pele was benched in the 3-1 loss to Hungary.
So by 1970, Pele only has one WC medal. Did FIFA start sucking him off after Brazil won the '70 WC?