We all agree that Messi is the best of all time.
But what about second and third place? What about Maradona and Pelé?
Who do you think is the second best in history?

I tend to think Pelé is better than Maradona.

>>149897731 (OP)
>We all agree that Messi is the best of all time.
No, we don't. He will be when he wins 3 World Cups, until then he's behind Pele too, just like Maradona.

George Best

>>149897731 (OP)
why is maconhona so uncomfortable?

>>149897731 (OP)
for me Maradonas way of playing is more aesthetically pleasing but thats probably because Pele played in the late 50s, 60s and 70s where football was more rough looking
Most old school argies that played against Pelé talk about Pelé like a god among men, like there was a huge power gap between themselves and Pelé
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVCLQZHGy8Y
obviously theres not an objective answer, it's like saying whats the best dish of all time or the best band of all time. It's an art theres no objective best

>>149904525
He Lost the final

Brazilians, is it right to hold this image of Pelé being the nicest guy and never hating on anyone?
Cuz that's more or less what we think of him here, cna you shatter that image?

>>149908115
He did get in a fight in a Milan v Santos in 1963. But he was generally a clean and non-confrontational player, like most Brazilians used to be.

>talent
Pelé
>soul
Maradona
>soul & talent
Ronaldinho

>>149904482
>carried by Garrincha
>made up 1300 goals
>never spoke out against the military dictatorship when thousands got killed and tortured
Pele was a disgrace. No self-respecting Brazilian likes him.

>>149897731 (OP)
>We all agree that Messi is the best of all time.
According to what? his inflated lel liga stats? He choked too many times in the CL and Copa America to be considered GOAT

>>149904606
Fish and chips best dish objectively
In America we have hamburger and fries but this is, for me I am wish for fish now but maybe tomorrow ok I say hamburger and fries are objectively best dish so in this sense there some room for changing the objectives

>>149910688
The "dictators" only went after the leftists scum that are ruining the country now, this only serves to make Pele even more BASED.

>>149911145
does Pele make the commies seethe?

>>149908579
this

>>149911168
He does, though Neymar's probably the one that does the most nowadays.

>>149911213
they both just rose in my GOAT ranks several tiers