Tuomas Edition

>What is Trench Crusade?
An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.

>What Trench Crusade is not
TC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.

>What's the QRD on the background?
The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.

>How do I get started?
All the files are free online, but are split between the website and the discord. They have all been collected here for your convenience:
https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ

>third party sources for making trenchers:
https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAc

>Trench Compendium
Compendium: https://trenchcompendium.netlify.app/
Feedback Form: https://forms.gle/k44MxmJxWu3upDHT8

>Previous thread:
>>95686526

>Thread Question:
What some gear/units you consider to be underrated?

>>95784749 (OP)
>ARG has yet to be solved

>TQ
I think Binoculars are going to see a lot of use in the future once infiltrators get their glow up.

>reposting my list for feedback
>took in to account the advice to make sure everyone has some melee weapon, and to take the bombard if you run a Bull
Yüzbasi Captain Malik | Yüzbasi Captain | 136 ducats 0 glory ---
[ EQUIPMENT ]
-Halberd-Gun (20 ducats)
-Reinforced Armour (40 ducats)
-Alchemical Ammunition (3 ducats)
-Mountaineer Kit (3 ducats)

Jabirean Alchemist Hakim | Jabirean Alchemist | 97 ducats 0 glory ---
[ EQUIPMENT ]
-Grenades (7 ducats)
-Standard Armour (15 ducats)
-Halberd-Gun (20 ducats)

[ INFANTRY ]
Sultanate Sapper Ahkbar | Sultanate Sapper | 100 ducats 0 glory ---
[ EQUIPMENT ]
-Shovel (0 ducats)
-Flamethrower (30 ducats)
-Gas Mask (5 ducats)
-Standard Armour (15 ducats)

Azeb Skirmisher Rubouf | Azebs | 57 ducats 0 glory ---
[ UPGRADES ]
-Skirmisher (5 ducats)
[ EQUIPMENT ]
-Bayonet (2 ducats)
-Gas Mask (5 ducats)
-Shotgun (10 ducats)
-Trench Shield (10 ducats)

Azeb Skirmisher Farshid | Azebs | 57 ducats 0 glory ---
[ UPGRADES ]
-Skirmisher (5 ducats)
[ EQUIPMENT ]
-Bayonet (2 ducats)
-Gas Mask (5 ducats)
-Shotgun (10 ducats)
-Trench Shield (10 ducats)

Azeb Skirmisher Osman | Azebs | 57 ducats 0 glory ---
[ UPGRADES ]
-Skirmisher (5 ducats)
[ EQUIPMENT ]
-Bayonet (2 ducats)
-Gas Mask (5 ducats)
-Shotgun (10 ducats)
-Trench Shield (10 ducats)

Azebs Salah | Azebs | 36 ducats 0 glory ---
[ EQUIPMENT ]
-Jezzail (7 ducats)
-Alchemical Ammunition (3 ducats)
-Knife/Dagger (1 ducats)

Brazen Bull Bahram | Brazen Bull | 160 ducats 0 glory ---
[ EQUIPMENT ]
-MURAD Bombard (50 ducats)
-Two-Handed Hammer (10 ducats)

The combat biologist is probably one of the coolest models out there, along with the observer

>>95785098
I hope his merc rules are good.

>>95785098
Peak Dune kitbash material imho.

>>95784749 (OP)
> 50 year old man
> 5'6"
> Wearing a duster
> Frosted tips hair
Jesus that's gay

>>95785098
Damn nice blues anon.

>>95784778
>I think Binoculars are going to see a lot of use in the future once infiltrators get their glow up.
I'm actually surprised no one takes binocs, since melee infiltrators seems to be quite common (HL NRP troopers/annointed, tIS assassins, NA trench moles/Prussian shocktroopers/Abyssinia flankers and C7HS hunter).

>>95785195
Probably dressed up for the con they were at.

>>95785195
knowing what "frosted tips" are is even gayer

>>95784749 (OP)
>TQ
I never see C7HS take a Desecrated Saint in their starting line-up. Sure it is big and a bit slow compared to Pit Locusts but god-damned it wrecks face when it gets swinging
>hellsword + 2x regular swords at +3 dice
>-3 Armor with FEAR and TOUGH
>aura effect of your sin choice on top of that

The desecrated saint is the biggest of distraction carnifexes out there. Perfect for setting up dilemmas or used as a wrecking ball, especially against troop-heavy lists that wants to bunch up

>>95785195
you wish you were as cool as him

>>95785320
Lmao I just realized that little guy is wearing like 2-3" heels on his gay little boots too!
Is he literally a midget?
Why wouldn't he crop the photo this shit is BAD.
>>95785468
I guess I'll just have to live with being above 5'2" like this midget is.
>>95785371
As you go through life you unfortunately pick up a lot of knowledge you would rather not have. But since you seem to know as well it's the (faggot) pot calling the kettle black I guess.

>>95785468
>>95785320
Oh snap I think I found another pic of him at a con!

>>95785777
this little guy has his gucci on

How is new Antioch? Is not having a big guy a drawback? I want to spam smgs because they are cool looking

>>95785098
eventually I'll rust up the flat side of his halberd

>>95785777
Abhorrent midge.

>>95786777
>Is not having a big guy a drawback
It can be, but you can also create fireteams to effectively have a big guy divided in 2 smaller guys. Heavy flamer HMI and MG HMI fireteam is quite busted in my experience.

>I want to spam smgs because they are cool looking
They are, you can go for Prussia if you like NA (higher SMG limit), although that subfaction is more geared towards grenades.

>>95786777
No discernable "heavy hitter" is their drawback. Thats offset by the sheer amount of ranged firepower they have.

Big fan of sniper priest and segrent fireteam with sniper rifles watching over the table while a priest leads the rest of the units.

>>95787554
>No discernable "heavy hitter" is their drawback
I disagree with this, in that it is a drawback.
They have no designated 'big guy' who carries the faction on it's back because everything else is so good.

Heretic legion neither has one big heavy hitter. Pilgrims, the grail and sultanate have one.

>>95787621
Some strengths are in that they get so many of a strong unit. HL may not have a heavy hitter, but it can have 5 annointed, which have the same profile as HMI except they also have +1 melee.

Sultantate has the same sort of thing with Jannisaries, they get 6, and that unit has a built in counter charge effect. It is possible to build around only having elites like these in HL and IS. BG amalgam is actually kindof shitty, their biggest boon is how many knights they get, paired with undead and fear they are actually really hard to kill even though they have a fairly average profile. The Dirge variant can fill all elite slots with its starting warband by just taking plague knights and corpse guard, which is pretty nutty as it means they can start gaining XP as soon as possible.

NA is good because it gets so many good weapons and they dont cost glory, so even slapping an MG on a regular yeoman isnt actually a terrible idea if you have the money for it, even if that unit dies its not a glory item so is easy to replace. By late game they are fielding MGs, grenade launchers and snipers all over the place like its nothing where every unit is equipped with grenades and med packs because they are saving so much money on replacing units and weapons.

>>95787621
War wolf???

>>95785195
Zesty post. Man looks great.

>>95785195
>>95785777
>>95785739
God damn anon, could you project any harder?

>>95786777
I play naval raiders with 7 troops armed with submachine guns. I call it the “swarm of bees” strategy because I can stack on a stupid number of blood markers in a turn.

The key isn’t to kill anything too tough, it’s to stack on blood markers to make your opponent’s elite models completely impotent with blood markers. And with the sheer number of shots you’ll be taking, you’re bound to get lucky sooner or later.

I recommend running them with trench shields to help them survive the retaliation.

>>95787709
>Sultantate has the same sort of thing with Jannisaries
You don't even need them, you have Brazen Bulls.
Eventually, I'm going to have one that dual wields zulfiqar, and charge him at the biggest thing on the field for maximum 'fuck this nigga right'chere!'.

Flgs looks like they're gonna start playing this. Kinda looks like Necromunda one shots in terms of list building. What faction lets me bring a fuckton of shotguns and trench knives?

>>95788154
Most factions have access to normal shotguns, the difference is in the special ones:

New Antioch allows you to bring shotguns, automatic shotguns (assauly weapons that allow you to shoot and charge) and heavy shotguns (big damage)

Alternatively the Trench Pilgrims lose the automatic shotgun but gain the punt gun (even bigger heavy shotgun with potential area damage)

Both factions are however limited in the number of special shotguns (limit of 2 for all 3 kinds).

The Heretic Legion does not have either the heavy shotgun nor the punt gun but have unlimited access to the automatic one.

>>95788154
>What faction lets me bring a fuckton of shotguns and trench knives?
New Antioch and Heretic Legion have both Shotguns and Automatic Shogtuns, and New Antioch has the Heavy Shotgun. Black Grail has normal Shotgun but also the Putrid Shotgun. Trench Pilgrims have normal Shotgun and the Punt Giant, which is just a beeg shotfun. All Shotguns have the Shield Combo so you can use them with a shield, and the basic Shotgun and Automatic Shotguns also have Bayonet Lugs on them as well. It varies how much of each they can take. Trench Knives are only 1 ducat and I think every faction has them. They're the dagger equivalent.

>>95788221
Automatic shotguns basically being Auto Fives I take it. Are the shields like the ones you'd stick on the end of the gun, almost like a portable version of a pintle mount shield, or are they riot shields with a notch to rest the gun? I kinda wanna build guys less like super baroque sword knights and more like historicals with all the goofy trench armor that came into being and some motifs.

>>95788250
You can do whatever you prefer, the game is heavily reliant on kitbashing and non uniform units since its WW1. Guns with shields attatched to them are cool, you dont have to obey the laws of reality and can just have the guy carry this around.

>>95788250
>Automatic shotguns basically being Auto Fives I take it.
It gains Assault keyword, which allows you to fire it and charge into combat during the same activation.

>Are the shields like [...] riot shields
Yes, the Trench Shield is basically that. It can look like a group of boards if you're so inclined, or your more riot squad shield. You've also got the Heavy Ballistic Shield which is restricted to Machine Armour users of New Antioch, which are your giant goddamn slabs of holy metal.

>I kinda wanna build guys less like super baroque sword knights and more like historicals with all the goofy trench armor that came into being and some motifs.
Go off, queen. Kitbash away.

>>95788262
>trannys
Are the trannies in the room with you now anon?

>>95788465
If they are, I hope he at least fucked it stupid.
May as well get some use out of it.

>>95788337
Adding to this, the kitbash opportunities are grand.
I kitbashed my initial IS from Wargames Arabian sets and German sets, with some judicial snipping and gluing to make shotguns, patchwork armor, shields, grenades.

>can't put a trench shield on my brazen bull
I just want -2 dice to injury, it's not asking much!

>>95787621
But the war wolf exists

>>95788802
But a trench shield only does -1 to the roll, not -1 dice

>>95788802
But you can put trench shields on brazen bulls. They can take any armor and equipment from the armory. Shields are armor from the armory. The restriction on things needing the Heavy keyword only applies to weapons. Shields aren't weapons. And since the bull-only ranged weapons are both 1-handed, you can have zulfiqar, murad/flamecannon, and a trench shield together without sacrificing anything. It's just expensive.

>>95785098
Ah fuck. The Spitalians are back.

If you got enough priests to bless the ocean would it turn into holy water so demons couldn't touch it?

>>95790036
The demons would respond by magically turning the ocean into diet big red out of spite

>>95790103
Demons spend their time polluting water sources, humans invent weather balloons filled with pious children to turn clouds into purifying downpours.
>Luftwaffe II: Demons in the Sky

>Blanchitsu
>*Opens hood*
>Its just a cope to pretend your oilwashed Loathsome Dungeater abomination is very moody

Where would i hypothetically find the non-free 3d files for 3D printing stuff?

>>95792960
Telegram, apparently. Maybe check the 3d print thread.

>>95788777
>>95786777
>>95785777
Weird all the trip 7’s in this thread

>>95793516
>Weird all the trip 7’s in this thread
blessed.

>>95790112
>weather balloons filled with pious children to turn clouds into purifying downpours.
Church really needs to hire inventive people like you, raining holy water that hurts the heretics. What a great idea.

>>95789580
.... thank you for the kind reminder, anon!
>>95789767
One day.
I mean, what I really want is to dual wield zulfiqars with the flamecannon, and yell choice curses in Arabic at my opponent.

>>95790103
>diet big red
Only true evil could think of something so awful.

>>95793794
If we still maintained dirigibles I could see the wilder sects of modern Christianity, the snake-fondlers and protesters, do something like this. Get high into the clouds and pray into them with a loudspeaker so the rain they makes will "bless" the enemy it falls on and convert them to Christ. Truly only the most black-hearted and thus deserving of death could resist such an awesome proclamation of faith.

These threads are really slow now.
What happened to the hype?

>>95797658
Couple months ago I was interested in the project, entered a thread, saw a lot of anti-anti-woke signalling coming from the devs, and was put off.
Too bad. I don't even consider myself a "chud".
(This was my first time clicking on this thread since then, I am not like lurking)

>>95797658
>Trench Crusade more like Troon Crusade.
Basically what happen to this thing.
It does not help the fluff of the setting is even more superficial than stuff like 40k

>>95797658
We had a lot of anons showing off finished minis a some threads back so I'm guessing everyone is either busy on new projects or waiting for materials/minis to arrive/print.
As for me I need to go pick up more materials at the local craft store so i can finish up my trench network pieces and get to painting. Probably gonna run a demo game at the local gaming club next week using proxy models to get more people into the game. Some of my friends have shown interest but want to try it before they buy in and get warbands themselves

>95797804
>95797897
>muh identity politics
/b/ is that way -> >>>/b/

Rough prototype fit for a heretic bunker made from the packing inserts from a small slowcooker, a plastic cookie tin and a hardback paper insert from some random peripheral gear box
The idea is to PVA glue the cookie tin to the lower insert, then add some supports between the lower and upper inserts to make it look like a concrete bunker while still being able to lift up the upper insert able to place or remove minis.
After i figure out a way to solve that it will get heretic greebling and a proper paintjob.

>>95797658
people are waiting for the book to come out
>great hunger got delayed
>no real new lore drops on subfactions
>no word on the other promised factions like the crusaders, vampire hussars, wrath warbands, demon courts of lust, etc
>even the voice in the trenches Scannerbarkly is having to do shorts to last during the content droughts
Id say this is the 7 years of famine Joseph warned of but we didnt even get 7 years of kino first

>>95798367
Famine first, feast later. And by feast I mean famine, and by famine I mean the living eating the dead, and by dead I mean dying. A new hell dawn on the lands of man.

>>95797897
It's just a really poorly thought out setting. It's really amateurish. Point of divergence is way too early. They should have the gates to hell opening in the 1800s or something for the WW1 setting. Hell, make it the 1600s with a witch hunt or something if you want that spoopy occult originating event.

Literally all, and I mean all, of the interest about Trench Crusade is because of under 10 artworks from it. Like the original artist is not just the MVP, he is in fact the only player in this project.

Planned a double game with 3 of the guys for today's afternoon, one of them could not come sadly so we played a 3-way game for our campaign. I played as the Court. Every game I play I'm more and more convinced they're busted, and I did not even win this one,.

>>95798699
I fucking hate when the image looks fine on my PC but turns when I upload it...

Anyways I got way too overconfident, rushed my warband down the center and ate every sniper/heavy jezzail shot imaginable. I didn't loose my praetor and hunter out of sheer luck

>>95798699
For campaigns, hell factions seem to start strong and just incrementally get better, while heaven factions snowball and get silly. Court seems like picking a boss character in a fighting game though.

>>95798719
Eventually the hellknight got to melee range to contest the middle objective. Unfortunately it was not enough, it found himself inbetween a liutenant + heavy shotgun HMI and a lion of jabir + assasin without support since the hunter was occupied holding the entire flank by himself, the sorcerer fucking died to a sniper+MG sniper priest fireteam and the praetor could only support from afar.

I have to say absolute tank of a unit, it took them building 7 blood markers to finally take it down.

>>95787187
Looks sweet dude nice work!

I've just finished up my first TC mini for my warband. Got my first game lined up at the end of the month, so looking to try and get most of them painted by then.

>>95798719
>I fucking hate when the image looks fine on my PC but turns when I upload it...
Yeah 4chan strips exif data including rotation from images to stop people doxxing themselves by accident. Easiest way to get around this is to crop the image slighly. Nice court dudes btw.

The back left 3 are done. The 7 at the front need mud and window detailing.
So many ‘supply utes’

>>95799901
Loving the battle utes. I've been working on finishing off some 40k terrain, but once I've got that done I'll be building some trench chunks out of XPS foam a bit like what you have there but larger.

>>95798764
>found himself inbetween a lieutenant + heavy shotgun HMI and a lion of jabir + assasin without support
Hell hath forsaken thee.

>>95799999
Thanks anon, they went off road since then.I’ll high gloss the windows and call it a day once the mud dries.

I actually built mine out of long life milk cartons as opposed to xpf as it’s hard to get here. But it was suprisingly easy and fast.
>>95799738
Well done anon, hey courts quite elite so that’s doable.
>>95798331
Ambitious, did you make any headway?

>>95800477
>Ambitious, did you make any headway?
Not yet, though i did find a good reference pic on how i want it to look, pic related.
Will probably have to do a rethink on how to make the supports after raid the local dollarstore for cheap materials on saturday.

>>95800811
Might even build up muddy ground around it so it looks "dug in" like WW1 bunkers instead of the more built-up look of the ww2 bunkers

IS anon here, my primary opponents are going to be Heretic Legions and Black Grail.
What are the things I need to look out for? I know Anointed are a big threat, but know little about Grail on the field. I am concerned because I am looking for midfield control, and worry about melee brawls.

>>95801045
Grail's stick depends very much on what sin they choose, though they all want to juggle blood markers to fuel their spells.

Heretics love their combined arms with priest/chorister support, arty witch long range fire, warwolf/death commando melee monsters plus, troopers and annointed bulking out the list

>>95798746
>Court seems like picking a boss character in a fighting game though
Yeah it kinda does, it even has the filler henchmen with the yoke fiends / wretched and the minibosses with the hellknights lol

>>95799764
Thank you anon

>>95801069
You're confusing Grail with Court, Grail is the plague undead faction, Court is the demon one.

>>95801045
Admittedly I do not have all that much experience fighting Grail yet but they're a melee focused faction of very tough to beat guys, 90% of their roster gets a -1Dice to all non-fire injury rolls. Flames are very effective though so you can go for that route, also expect gas weapons. They completely lack long range.

Other than that they're similar to the Court in the sense that their elites are exponentially better than their rank-and-file which are there to support and be annoying.

>>95801045
Grail has several tarpit units which aren't that scary by themselves but with swarms of them thanks to their swarm rules, they can annihilate you. There are also a couple of units like the lord of tumors that can consistently kill anything in melee but don't have any real ranged to speak of. Grail is going to move slow across the board and if you haven't wiped them out before they arrive, you lose. They're immune to gas and tanky against all non-fire damage. Alchemists will shine as a result.

>>95801069
You are confused. Grail is always gluttony and they don't get to choose, and they don't have spells. That's court.

>>95801150
>You're confusing Grail with Court, Grail is the plague undead faction, Court is the demon one.
Ah shite, you're right. Just shows i shouldn't post before the coffee kicks in.

Correction on >>95801069
GRAIL seems to want to be close in and personal. Lots of FEAR, heavy melee and sub-12" firepower.

>>95797658
>These threads are really slow now
Acording to the Irish fatty the book is going to have a lot of changes and new stuff. We're pretty much just waiting until it releases.

>>95801571
Yea Im waiting for a more defintive rules to drop, they keep changing stuff and adding things still. Like I would actually play BG now with the changes they made.

Speaking of BG, how are you guys running your Amalgams now?

Now lore document is out, and it's in the lore pdf's folder in the OP mega link.

It is the 1807 INVASION OF ÉIRE
>Path of the Beast
>Cult of the Moon
>Hymn of the Beast
>Beast Guard of Zacchur
My heretic-bias is showing, but this is the cool shit to me. Ireland might have a little bit of the satanic werewolf/beastman problem. Good on them for retaking their island, though. God I can't wait for Path of the Beast to get into the game.

>>95801571
Wait we still don't have the final rules?

>>95802917
That drop was fat with interesting lore. We got info on inner workings of heretics, path of the beast, on paladin and of course Ireland.

>>95803357
Game is not at Gold Standard yet. It's close though, and pretty playable.

>>95802917
>France only European nation to send reinforcements
>Pope accepting to dispatch a fucking Paladin to help
>Duke of New Antioch missioning his own bodyguards to help, saying they are more needed in Ireland than in the "Home of All Our Hopes", a debt repaid by the Irish by sending their own Fianna to NA

Based all around. Great lore piece.

>>95803357
>Wait we still don't have the final rules?
As far as I understand, the reason why we didn't get the book sooner is because they wanted more time to test the changes and new stuff they want to introduce with the book. They were very adamant about no wanting to print the book before everything had been ironed out and tested. Same thing with the Hunger being delayed.

>>95803402
>>95803705
I mean, without being too 'fanboi' for TC, but we've had playable rules for over a year now.
They may not be up to Tuomas' autistic Finnish standards of 'everything must be perfectly balanced but also asymmetrical and every unit and faction has to FEEL unique', but I've had some perfectly good games with the stuff already there.
>>95803376
>Tfw still waiting for England HMI faction.

Will naval battles be a thing in TC in the future?

>>95804973
It would be nice, but naval wargaming is very niche, and there's a lot more to be done still. Nothing to stop you from homebrewing it, though.

>>95804973
Probably, there is a notable giant ship that patrols the English channel and there is mention that the heretics effectively rule the sea and strike anywhere because of that, would make sense to have some fantasy naval battles.

>>95798423
Ignoring the stupidity that is their social. As you mention the artwork is cool. The setting could have used more than 2 seconds of thought.

>>95805134
And the game?

>>95805143
Could be done with something else, even with something like Xenos Rampant.

>>95805197
So the entire TC system with its rules is pointless?

>>95805257
All crunch and fluff are ultimately pointless, if you want them to be.

>>95805257
Well yes. There is not much to save here beside the cool looking stuff. Shame really. Reminds of the turnip28 game.

>>95805342
So why are you here?

>>95805563
For the cool looking stuff.

>>95805583
But you hate it here.

>>95805583
You just admitted that there's nothing of value to the game. You're just a shitposting whore looking to incite drama like half of this godforsaken site these days.

>played a few games with a friend on TTS
>really enjoyed it
>want to play more but no lgs that has wargaming/miniature focus

Is anyone actually playing this game in real life? I see plenty of people playing it on TTS, but haven't really seen anyone playing the game on a real tabletop with physical models.

>>95787187
Continuing with the visor

>>95805027
>Probably, there is a notable giant ship that patrols the English channel and there is mention that the heretics effectively rule the sea and strike anywhere because of that, would make sense to have some fantasy naval battles.
So we can just use Ogre?

>>95806799
Why do you need an LGS to play wargames?

>>95808329
NTA, but for social interaction and local community building. Without staying too far off-topic, I'll just say that the death of the "third place" has been detrimental to society and a big part of why overall mental health seems to be getting worse year after year.

>>95808325
Isnt that game a universal ruleset for any setting? I dont see why not.
>one side is using ships
>the other is using flat out sea monsters and guys riding monster whales

>>95808358
I'm talking about Steve Jackson's Ogre. A giant AI tank fighting against a load of regular tanks and shit. Could be easily adapted to giant warship fights a bunch of irregular ships.

I have no idea what system you're talking about.

>>95808346
American detected - the only way to have a third place is for a business owner to provide it to you.

You can just build your own community...

>>95784749 (OP)
Why is the editor of TC such a stone cold hottie?
More like Mira Banga!

She's so cute bros

Milfmode Manga

Giwtwm

>>95808373
Oh okay, you weren't interested in a real discussion and just wanted to shitpost. Got it.

>>95804973
A small side game maybe, there would only be heretic navies and pious navies. I doubt the black grail or sultanate have navies.

>Eire fall to the heretics, a new hellgate open
>Population is slaughtered or join the heretics
>New front in the backyard of England
>Somehow it take more than 80 years for the Church to send a single Paladin
...so what are they using theses guys for? I assumed drastic emergencies but somehow this wasn't one?

>>95808872
You're making a lot of assumptions for someone in Hell's backyard.

>>95808872
Paladins mainly serve as special ops commandos that go after targets in Hell itself
On top of that, they're irreplaceable and are few in number, so the Church can't throw them at just anyone who threatens faithful land

>>95808872
>...so what are they using theses guys for?
There's only ever been 12 of them, 2 are dead and 1 has turned traitor, their equipment is irreplaceable, and they can't make any more of them. Given that they are also the only ones who can actually walk in and out of hell itself, they are for very, very important operations only. The lore primer (Page 18) mentions them being used to kill hell's nobles, destroy virus labs of the black grail, or interrogating literal demons for information. Highest level shit that no one else is capable of doing, let alone surviving.

>>95808872
Not really sad as it is to say
the Church only has 9 doomguys left and no way to repair their armor
there is a reason they havent sent one to the north to close the northern hellgate and its because its too much of a risk they wont come back

>>95808955
It's also worth mentioning that this dude is 17ft tall.

>>95809023
I'd assume its because council of saints either advice against closing the northern hellgate, or the plan to take down northern hellgate is unclear. If there is even a bit of uncertainty, paladin stays in his cloister.

>>95784749 (OP)
Unrelated /cgl/ posting, but i hate that crusty ass khorne berzerker cosplayer. He puts on the same trashy suit for how many years now? Gotta smell by now

>>95809128
The application of water mixed with cleaning chemicals can clean items.

>>95803673
>meanwhile ingerland does nothing but focus on building their own superboat
Some things just never change.

>>95809416
COME ONE IN GER LAND!
* BANG * BANG *
BUILD A BIGGAH BOTE

>>95809692
It's a pipe dream, but I'm hoping for some proper nautical autism in either the lore, or the fancanon material.
Shit like.
>The Mediterranean fleet has mega-galleys and 'wet' warships because minimal profile and lack of bad seas.
>The Moving Fortress of Brittania is actually relatively poorly optimized as it's been built and refitted and retrofitted so many times over its hundreds of years of construction. It's just, despite this, still so well engineered and crewed that it's still faster, hardier, shoots further, and hits harder and more accurately than Heretic Leviathan ships.
>Isambard Brunel is a saint of Shipbuilding Engineering
>Most ships are in HMS Rodney/Hood-grade disrepair due to constant service, demands, and lack of time or resources for dockyard overhaul. Men are turning boilers on and off as the ship still runs, and sticking men inside active engines to fix them.
>The highest echelons of Captains are drawn from the ranks of the Elite Destroyer flotilla.
>Larger vessels of war are so valuable that, despite so much religious purity/corruption, both sides will attempt to capture and 're-christen' enemy vessels.

>>95808930
>>95808955
>>95809023
Now I know that'll sound crazy, but why dont they deploy... more than one Paladin at once? I know they run the risk of losing sereval instead of just one, but the guy they deployed in Eire returned badly trashed, might have fared better with some friends.

>>95810209
>Oh shit, TWO paladins? Drop the torture chambers, MALHEAL, we're killing God's chosen tonight!

>>95810216
I wonder how noticeable are paladins to demonic nobles, the ones in high tier of hell's society. Are paladins also small annoyances to them, or an actual threat.

>>95810209
Each suit they wear is uniquely designed for a single purpose (each level of hell has a different atmosphere, and with only one suit for each, they can't go in pairs), and cannot even be repaired once damage. This is mentioned in the lore primer.

>>95810303
So there are currently 9, each with a suit made to endure one of the circles of hell. But there were initially 12. If each Paladin had a suit made for them, which circle did the three lost Paladins were intended for?

>>95810333
Each circle of hell requires it's own special suit, but that doesn't mean each special suit was specifically designed to correspond to a circle of hell. I imagine a few were probably designed for earthly combat, maybe even for heavenly or space combat.

>>95810333
>Darkbad
>Double Hell
>Scarytown

>>95810333
>China
>Detroit
>Helsinki

Apparently some guys have gotten the green light from Toumas to make a Trench Crusade RPG.
Here's a quick copypaste from the discord thread on character creation:

>Archetypes define your Crusader’s role on and off the battlefield. Each offers a distinct approach to combat, faith, tactics, and survival. Your Archetype provides key abilities, suggested talents, and narrative cues that shape your playstyle

>Below are the list of Initiate (Tier 1 gameplay) archetypes for players to play. I have art for each if you all would like to see.
>Disclaimer: This is in draft and subject to change, please feel free to provide feedback.

>Trench Pilgrim
>Wandering zealots and trench warriors guided by visions and desperation.

>Observer
>Snipers, scouts, and battlefield visionaries attuned to the past, present, and future.

>Janissary
>Brutal frontline enforcers clad in alchemical steel and unwavering loyalty.

>Chorister
>Penitent hymn-warriors and conduits for divine harmonics.

>Warden of Dust
>Lorekeepers and exorcists who wield fire, scripture, and relentless memory.

>Shrine Anchorite
>Wandering battlefield healers who bind wounds with faith and resolve.

>Relic Scavenger
>Improvised fighters scavenging sanctity from the shattered earth.

>Prophet-Guard
>Chosen protectors of the Orders, bearing faith like a shield.

>>95810495
>Detroit

>>95810513
yeah but nothing really comes out about what the system itself actually looks like, plus some of the names for these classes already define something else in the actual game.

>shrine anchorite
>healing and medicine
>not a big fucking mech
like this guy can't be serious, right?

>>95810513
Interesting. I hope the rpg will be good. Any links?
>>95810536
There's no god's light, infernal heat, grail's plague or anything in Detroit. Exept abyss.

>>95810513
>Chorister
>Penitent

>>95810570
>Any links?
no.

>>95810561
The shrine anchorite armor would be late game item. The list needs communicants tho. Also heretic archeotypes.

>>95810585
>late game item
anon, the shrine anchorites are explicitly just huge machines, there's no healing to be done by them. you don't go from healing friend to massive tank.

>>95810590
Honestly, yeah I agree. The list is unresearched and not good currently. I'm trying to be charitable that we're seeing the results of first brainstorm of the developers.

>>95797658
News died down as they're likely focusing on building the company and what not while trying to get the Kickstarter stuff made and sent out.

>>95798423
Woah it's almost like the setting was built around an asthetic rather than someone actually trying to build a setting

>>95810513
Anon, it's in the homebrew and fanfiction section. It's even worse than some nobody's shitbrew because it's just all ideas guy talk about grand plans and Kickstarters with no rules and shitty AI art.
>Apparently some guys have gotten the green light from Toumas to make a Trench Crusade RPG.
Anon please read things you link.
>I've already talked with them
>I'd love to have them involved, they declined

>>95810575
Seems to be different brands of units across different factions but based on the theme. A chorister is just a member of a choir, prophet guard also seems a lot like the "corpse guard", but not BG orientated.

>>95810513
>Trench Crusade RPG
To be hones the easiest way to run a TC RPG would be to just refluff Only War or Dark Heresy 2 depending on what power level/style of play you want. Remove the high-tech stuff and refluff psychic powers to be piety-based powers and you got a good base to build out from.

>>95810333
its not so much that each suit was hand crafted for one realm specifically as much as each paladin proved HIGHLY effective at killing certain realm so their armor was crafted to aid in their goal to kill their way through that realm
for example the paladin in charge of killing the circle of pride wears a very plain, form fitting armor that has no room for commendations, or customizations or even anything that makes her stand out so Pride has no way to tempt her, or feed her ego to give him leverage
similarly i think the other paladins who were lost had similar roles who later fell in battle against foes they were ill prepared for but had to face regardless
like the paladin who died killing the second grail hedgemon on earth
as for the traitor its clearly a Judas parallel so my guess would be where traitors ended up in hell

>>95810513
that the same faggot in the discord who said he didnt want to include any coruption mechanics because "Call of Cthulhu generalized mental health issues and thats problematic"?
that dude got the green light for an RPG? are you fucking serious?

>>95810793
>for example the paladin in charge of killing the circle of pride wears a very plain, form fitting armor that has no room for commendations, or customizations or even anything that makes her stand out so Pride has no way to tempt her, or feed her ego to give him leverage
I mean, she's wearing an armored catsuit showing off rather respectable curves, I'm not sure that's the best exemple...

>>95810821
>I've reached out to the Dev's to collaborate and make sure there were no issues with the project. They gave me the impression they didn't want to add a new system to their plate to work with me on, which I understand. So the Lore additions we're making are based off the Dev's work but separate.

>I've already talked with them
>I'd love to have them involved, they declined
Anon is either attempting to stir shit or has laser focused so hard on the idea that someone's making Trench Crusade TRPG that he ignored every bit of information around it. Clearly this random guy keeps bugging the devs to work with him on his functionally non-existent trpg and they are brushing him off with the softest kid gloves possible. That entire thread reads like those Sonic wiki where people make fake games in their heads with elaborate details and backstories.

>>95809949
They need to make God aligned marines that can walk on water as a risky action

>>95810513
Going by >>95810890 as canon, this "greenlight" is as official as someone in here doing this >>95810776.

Okay. I can respect that. Just be more upfront about it and make milestones to keep yourself actually making progress instead of spinning wheels expanding the scope. No need to make a million guns with a millions attachments when 3 & 3 will do for the base game.

Question for the Heretic Legion players: How do you kit out your Chorister?
Polearm/shield combo? Greatsword? SacBlade and fuck all else?

>>95798423
who cares about the lore lmao, it's a good game, and that is all that matters.
In our 10 players community I think only one know something about the lore, but anyway you can just tell other people it's "40k during ww1" and they will understand.
Imo the biggest problem is how boring the art is, it's just the "industry standard" artstation type of art, for a kickstarter old school game I wanted some cool art and artists.... not diablo 3 with guns

>>95815244
Reinforced armor, polearm/sac-blade and sword, flamethrower
I prefer giving the sacrificial knife to the priest to use alongside a blasphemous staff

Tuomas Pirinen has confirmed on the 'cord that we'll probably get more path of the beast stuff next week. At this rate, path of the beast is going to release before the church of metamorfosis ARG is solved by the discordfags lol.

>>95817931
>wild
Like uh... like the... like an...

When exactly is the playtest going to be over so I can just print the book off?

>>95818663
Probably not for a while. A concrete version one of trench crusade will be done before the book from kickstarter is release right?

>>95806799
I know that feel bro.
I wanna play tc but nobody in the lgs is interested when I asked about it on their lgs discord.

Anybody got experience printing anvil industry stls here?
Anvil’s newest stls are perfect for me.

>>95818968
Only way Ive ever seen someone get a game going that isnt Warhammer is if they have armies for other people to just try out. The game needs sub 10 models to play a game, its worth considering if you want to put together 2 factions.

Also there is no actual definitive rules yet, its not much of a surprise its a struggle to get people to play what is effectively still the beta version of the game.

>>95819047
>Also there is no actual definitive rules yet, its not much of a surprise its a struggle to get people to play what is effectively still the beta version of the game.
You’re right. Let’s hope it gets a spike up in popularity when the out of beta rules come out.

>>95819041
I havent, but If you want fairly standard looking and cheap NA try just grabbing some bolt action winter germans/americans sprues for guys with trench coats, and then wargames atlantics WW1 British heads. They have gasmasks as well as other useful bits in there. Im putting some together even though I dont play NA just because they were so cheap.

>>95817931
Confirmed. Sicked.

>>95819112
>Mechanized armor, Mk.XXI***, Trench Pilgrim, for the personal use of
>1908, colorized

>Gonna post some pics about a game I had today at the LGS

Game starts, shield guy in the anchorite tanks a bomb with only a blood markers 'cause he's just like that

>>95819447
Nun charges an elite legionnaire to keep the heretics away from an objective, I'm sure she's going to survive the engagement

>>95819464
Moving to assault the building...

>>95819478
Surprise double kill

>>95819489
>Come out after school I promise we're not gonna jump you

>>95819489
Based on my experience with Commandos that's not that surprising. Motherfuckers love to blend chaff.

>>95819495
Absolute fucking unit of a trooper, tanks 2 hits from the anchorite, rolls a 12 on the injury from a bayonet attack, downed it goes

>>95819499
Yeah I tried my strat of holding the commando in melee against his will with a resurrected, strength-buffed, wrath of god pilgrim with a holy shield and a greathammer for the entire game but I failed a dash and could not get him.

>>95819041
I've printed some of their other stls. Years ago. The arm/waist joints can be a bit of a tight fit but otherwise they tend to come out fine.

>>95819527
That trooper must be on the promote-ahead-of-peers fast-track to becoming a legionnaire. Absolute unit indeed.

>>95819527
>bro saw a 12 foot tall mechanical ode to martyrdom and thought "yeah I can take that"

>>95819447
Nice 40k game

>>95819777
Most of the terrain at the LGS for 32mm is either w40k or star-wars or some other futuristic shit, there is some to be used for MESBG that sort of fits but it is way too open, the terrain for 28mm and smaller is also not really fit for TC as you can see in >>95819447 for the ruined building the pilgrim is on, he's over a head taller than the doorway.

>>95819640
>>95819769
Unfortunatedly he failed the promotion dice, corruption within the ranks of hell runs rampant

>>95819777
>Those factories.
>That scenery.
Anon what are you on about that's clearly Prussia in the pic

>>95819447
>>95819464
>>95819478
>>95819489
>>95819495
>>95819527
Cool shit!

>>95818663
>>95818684
Kickstarter book is supposed to be july/early august.

But keep in mind this is a living game, which is probably why they dont ask for payment on the rules since they're constantly being updated. Its unlikely there will be a 'final' version of the rules every well after the game is 'out of playtest'.

>>95819041
Been collecting their files for years, always good quality and all the sets are modular and interchangeable.

>>95819947
>Unfortunatedly he failed the promotion dice, corruption within the ranks of hell runs rampant
He can at least be upgraded to a legionnaire with ducats though right? Lucifer is smiling upon him

>>95821682
once they've sent copies to the kickstarter backers, have they mentioned anything about selling the book individually?

>>95821727
Oh he definetly got a melee promotion to legionnaire and a couple of swords, the patrons of hell will be watching his career with great interest

>>95810634
> People who have never done a Kickstarter suddenly have a hugely successful Kickstarter
> Immediately start hiring people before completing fulfillment
This company is HARD fucked. Kickstarters that explode too much end up costing the company more than they make and this company is already doing all the hallmarks of inexperienced game/Kickstarter companies, is spending spending spending before fulfilling it (see shit like immediately announcing they hired one of the most expensive game designers, hiring multiple 'lore authors.'
Yeah.... This does not bode well

>>95822372
What do you mean it doesnt bode well, what is the expected action after success, for them to take the money they made and just sit on it?

Even if they put out today that they are not working on anything anymore and have no money, the game exists and is playable, them not reaching higher does not mean the thing didnt already succeed by the mere fact that there is already a working game.

>>95822372
Trying too hard.

>>95822372
doomer coomer tier stuff here buddy

>>95825990
Just needs an old photograph filter and it will remind me of those forgeworld imperial armour edited model photographs in the best way.

>>95819527
Rip anon.
Ty for posting.got to start campaign soon but only two of us have minis ready so we just did one offs.


I had a game as well!
Mammon vs my friends pilgrims. His first game so we just played Great War twice.

>>95828162
Doog runs up the street

>>95828162
Dog gets wiped out by AMR, who the. Failes to do anything else all game.

Such is life on the battlefield.in better news war wolf absolutely blitzed with artillery witch and one grenade launcher annointed support.

>>95828162
Very cool table anon

>>95828182
>Who would win, an armor-piercing, anti-tank 50cal. bullet or one bad boy

Me and friends played a bunch of demo games with different factions using those premade intermediate demo lists. Game is a blast and flows pretty easy. Wish there was some other premade content we could pull from before we go to 700pts. People still deciding on factions they like even though we’ve printed everything out

>>95802917
Are they becoming Canon!?

>>95828908
I KNEW THOSE pagans were in league with the devil. Get the pitchforks and the flames, brother! We're killing wolves tonight.

>>95828908
>>95828910
Eire needs a unflinching hero to deal with the heretic menace.

>>95829057
>Gets infected by the Black Grail
>Burns himself alive rather than taint his immortal soul
Truly a man of strong moral fiber

What should I had to my Mammon heretics? An anointed with a coin hammer or a gothic warlock?

Is this cape a trainwreck or does it look fine?

>>95833776
The cloak looks quite good, but it'll ultimately be dependent on the paintjob. Might want to smooth out the bit on the front shoulder though.

Whatever is going on with the barb wire guy, though... Not sure what you were going for but it does not look great.

>>95833776
If its still not hardened try and flatten it out some and make it less lumpy looking. If you want to make a cloak roll out a flat little sheet and just wrap it around the model, its easy to cut off the bits you dont need with a scalpel when its dried.

Is the guy with the barbed wire going to be covered in gore or something? It looks like its going into him. Its a neat idea if so.

Beelzebub, Satan and Lucifer are a triumvirate. Given how Beelzebub is the greatest demon of gluttony, were does this put the other two?

>>95833942
Lucifer is obviously pride. No clue about satan though, considering even his lore IRL is super confused and inconsistent and I'm not familiar with any specific TC lore about him other than him being mentioned as existing.

>>95784749 (OP)
That’s Tuomas imply the existence of Threemas

>>95833776
Cloak looks find to me, real crusty, what you'd expect of a war-torn rag. It will look better when painted.

>>95833776
>>95833939
>>95834133
Thanks guys, I'll try to paint them well.
>Whatever is going on with the barb wire guy, though... Not sure what you were going for but it does not look great.
It's a mechanical parasite helping him aim through his tears, I thought it came out good. Maybe it will make more sense painted.

>>95833776
I think it does, you could paint the clumps as mud that's sticking to the fabric

On an unrelated note what is that thing cloak man has on his chest?

>>95832997
I would go coin hammer anointed, though i haven't play around much with the goetic warlock

>>95828797
I’ll unleash the hellhound on him next time. Only time will tell.
And thanks I’ve been super sick so using it as an excuse to make more trench themed stuff.

>>95832997
Give him a coin hammer, shield, gas grenades or shotgun of choice and a Medkit(stolen)

You won’t regret it. Those guys are action heroes.
I always run mine with gas grenades and a mask for danger close.

Alternately try the horticulture warlock and post results of how he went in here. What model would you use for him anyway?

New FAQ pdf was uploaded today on the D*sc*rd

>>95840405
Starting to see why they want to delay the official rulebook for so long if they have to have FAQers for such minute details like this.

>>95840543
They've also been hitting the convention scene more and more.

>>95784749 (OP)
>>95840405
FAQ added to the Mega, Rules and Resources folder.

>>95840543
They also added a fuckload of additional lore and art as they got more time to come up with ideas and more writers and artists on board.

Kickstarter minis finally arrived today. The quality control on these are abysmal

>>95845032
What warband? My Heretic Legion ones were great, no misprints, no smudging, crisp details and only three stray pieces of flash/mini-supports i could pull off with a pair of tweezers.

>>95845032
pics or bait.

>>95840405
What the fuck is a Dstarscstarrd? Stop typing like a bloody retard.

>>95784749 (OP)
Why doesn't Tuomas just ask Goatmoon for advice on Tru Satanic Black Metal?

>>95845222
New Antioch and Trench Pilgrims. Pretty much every model had uncured resin on them, a bunch of missing/broken bits and anything long was warped
>>95845227
This is one of the warped ones, probably not helped by the fact they filled the boxes so tightly they had all come apart

>>95845032
wew dodged a bullet

>>95845272
Email the guys at factory fortress. I contacted them about a issue with one of my minis and they sent me a replacement pretty quickly. Just remember to attach photo evidence of the defects.

>>95845486
I understand they're hurrying to get all the minis out as soon as possible but the quality control means they'll waste a lot more time and money shipping to the same people twice. Most of my order was OK but 3 models were scuffed (including pic related) and they missed an azeb.

>>95845274
If I had a resin printer I'd have just printed them myself. Unfortunately it wasn't really an option at the time
>>95845486
Already did, supposedly they're going to send replacements out but we shall see if they're any better

>>95845679
>all the minis out as soon as possible
They're already behind so someone must have made the decision to send out what they've got to shut the people up screaming "scam".

Does it seem valid to just have the war prophet hang behind a wall of fighters to heal them? That healing effect seems really good but if theyre stuck in combat they are probably going to be using it more on themselves than anyone else. Like Ive thought of outfitting the WP for support rather than offence and giving more spending to other units.

>>95846001
In my experience the War Prophet's heal is a nice bit in incidental value, but being reliant on it is going to bite you in the ass because it's an action with no extra dice. You don't necessarily need to make yours a frontline fighter, but you're wasting that +2 ranged if you don't give yours the nicest gun you can afford, ideally with incendiary ammo to make your local Grail player sad.

>>95846226
Am I mistaken in that you can take this action seperate from a combat action? As in, I can do the heal, if it succeds then I can take a shot, where if I fail then I end the turn and dont get either action? I intended to give them a blessed icon so they dont just end their turn if they fail at least.

The wrath ability on cavalcade seems powerful if you can do this. You effectively dont even need a melee weapon, just use this while a wall of units is infront of them blocking, or if they are in melee then they effectively have 2 attacks on their turn, one from the ability and the other from their actual attack.

>>95846298
>you can take this action seperate from a combat action?
Correct. You only end your turn for failing a Risky action though, and the Laying on Hands isn't Risky. You might be thinking of medi-kits that are Risky. What I was implying is that hitting a 7 on a 2d6 isn't an assured thing and it's possible you can go multiple rounds with out the healing triggering, so I wouldn't rely on it and base your War Prophet's actions entirely on being a heal bitch, especially since it has a great combat profile and Loudspeakers lets it make some really aggressive melee maneuvers.

>>95847227
Oh thats even better than I thought then. Could use the loudspeakers to make sure they are able to get in and make contact with the enemies before they are able to tie up the formation or get to the prophet. Kindof like how you would do in MESBG, where you would use lesser units to body block and allow heroes to move more freely to do whats needed and not get bogged down by shitters and then have a hero killer join in fight.

The unit seems to be the factions best shooter so Id like to keep them from getting tied in melee it seems, so they can do more shooting and move freely to do the heal where needed.

>>95784749 (OP)
>sniper priest with AR
>fireteam with MHI with MG
>5 shots per activation that can trigger bloodbaths for eachother
both have such good range and plus to Ranged attacks too, I think I've struck gold.
fuck everyone who says muh MG not good durr durr, I'll shoot you FIVE (5!) times!! in one activation!!

>>95847581
Another one is sniper priest teamed with the lieutenant and just using sniper rifles, its effectively your anti elite and keeps the leader out of harms way so they can just focus on using their ability via sitting back and overseeing the table.

First couple of tests for grail thralls, first time using inks too so fun to learn how to use em

>>95849049
Those look great. Im torn between making mine just monsters, or going the route of making them knights of lazarus themed guys in robes, I feel Im missing out on making some monsters if I do that but I liked the idea of it for a theme.

I got this mini and it gave me an idea for a counts-as Chorister for my Heretic Legion: a dullahan-esque woman who committed suicide by blowing her head off with a grenade instead of cutting her throat. After becoming a chorister her head now appears ghostly and translucent, similar to the trench ghost banshees but her body is still there, still bleeding from the severed neck.

The face and hair would be painted similar to this but blue instead of green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qAK1kRi5Bs
Mostly because i really want to use the mini as a Chorister to my warband but i don't want to hack at it with a knife or dremel.

>>95849386
Thanks man, I’m just committed to not having ones that look like Nurgle rip offs.
There are many types of diseases so it’s pretty easy to do what you want

Tuomas is a huge faggot despite his boyish proportions.

He gifted STL files left and right to his troon moderators and other AIDS bags from Turdnip 28, but the people next to this shitty Mordheim revival didn't even get a discount, much less recogniton.

My consolation is that he is punished enough, being a manlet with a feminist ogress of at least 400 pounds that probably gets railed by niggers when hubby is too busy writing the same botched rulebook for 5 years straight.

Fucking Finnish Faggot, I hope Russia misfires a nuke or two in the direction of Malmo while they rape Ukraine to the ground.

>>95850811
What?

>>95849049
Very nice. I like the one on the left. It's like he's helicoptering his cock directly at god.

the coolness of the concept of the Black Grail is enough to override the ew factor

>>95853925
>the ew factor
What are you 10

>>95853925
Did if give you a "heckin chonker of an ick" as well?

>>95853925
Could just go Dirge since they dont have zombies and focus on knights.

>>95854300
i think you should never mind the trolls, i think Grail is just a more hardcore Nurgle. Its objectively gross, i mean it turns people into screaming flesh puddles

>>95849565
I’m no expert, but wouldn’t a grenade cause a whole lot more damage than a cleanly blown off head?

Path of the beast loredrop is in the Discord announcement, and its awesome. They seem to have interesting mechanic with their runes giving the army different traits/magic.

>>95856596
Hope we see more interesting elaborate designs than the blobs of varius animal features with ticks we have now.

Path of the Beast lore pdf added to the mega folder

>>95859674
Thanks. But goddamn those FUCKING ticks. My skin itches.

>>95859987
shh we are not allowed to say things are ewwy in here, it will upset the edgelords during their nap time

>>95860033
As long as you don't say it like a normie, it's fine.

>>95860033
Apologies for your thin skin. I'll hide your replies so you can seethe in anger that other people on the internet won't do what you tell them.

>>95860066
Eww a cope post gross

the only way Grail could be grosser is if they added an STD angle. Like a proto-HIV virus

>>95859674
Ticks are supposed to have 8 legs.

>>95840405
Is it just me or is the last question missing an answer?

>>95859674
Getting head from a tick must not be great

>>95861652
Why, ticks live to suck.

>>95861528
idk where people found the prettyed up version but it's answered in the original version

>>95861652
That Beast adherent looks perfectly happy though.

>>95840646
Not having commercial license for models is a drawback for cons

>>95860282
the Beast faction is kinda like that. Giant ticks spread Beast aids.
Curiously the Grail Pilgrim art looks like Path of Beast crossed with Grail.
I think these two factions have overlap

I wanted to make some Dirge plague knights, which models do you reckon I should go with. Wanted to go with a "knights of lazarus" theme where they just look like regular knights but are bleeding out of the gaps in the armour, but I feel like the guys on the right look more appropriate to the faction. What do you think?

>>95871064
I'd say the paint will be what will sell the concept of "bleeding from the edges of your armor for months". Get that brown-red trail of grime leaking downwards like a broken pipe and it'll make whichever model you choose.

>>95871064
Left if you're going with regular knights. Right could still be used as a Chorister and an Annoited for HL though, especially since that Stormcast helm has that rim which will fit nicely in a model's hand.

based on the minis I already printed what kind of faction/minis should I print to play a test game?

>>95872310
A bunch of grunts

>>95872310
Papal New Antioch will let you run a lot of those mercs earlier. Otherwise the most coherent force you could aim for is Pilgrims.

>>95872310
New antiochs papal states variant. They start with a bunch of glory points which allows them to use mercenaries, which is a lot of what you have, the anti tank communicants, the ammo monk and that judge guy are perfect, now all you need to do is buy a sprue of bolt action winter germans and a new atlanitc ww1 british sprue and make chaff units and youre done.

Compendium guy here, finally done with a lot of the api/accounts stuff and properly cracking on the warband. Luckily all my setup means this shouldn't take too long.

As an example of stuff, you can see that I've made a HOW warband and added one alchemist and one homunculus. When I go to add another infantry (non elite, non mercenary) I have no option to add a second homunculus. If I added a second alchemist then I would be able to add them again.

This sort of flexible-functionality is why I bothered to remake this all.

>>95861442
Ticks are in the arachnae family?

>>95872779
Thanks for youre work man.

>>95861909
Thanks, I found the one I posted on the TC website:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/637c0a5adafeb04f70309b99/t/684a8a0425625e4ee7ca26ef/1749715461172/FAQ+II.pdf

>>95873758
>youre work man.

>>95873899
Thats him, thats the compendium guy, were so proud of him.

Why are Hell-dominated areas political wastelands?
The faithful have various nations with their own identities while heretics have amorphous undefined territories where "the evil guys" come from

>>95874057
They aren't, there's mention of the 66 domains ruled by heretic warlords. And possibly other Hell aligned territories outside of those, like Ekron, but that's yet to be expanded upon.

>>95874057
I think its because, as >>95874079 said, theres a lot of smaller factions and splitting due to hell politics, and the authors dont want to commit to naming all of the heretic nations now which would limit their available story-space. Compared to the faithful which are for the most part just real nations.

>>95861442
yeah but these are devil ticks

>>95810821
The newer ww world of darkness rpgs will still be the gold standard for retardation. I promise you, as retarded as any tabletop rpg based on tc will ever be, nothing will ever top the designer talking about german styled splats being removed due to their 'racist blood memory' and how he's removing 'fake cultures' that lack 'his preferred authenticity'. Just buckle up and enjoy the stupid.

>>95788221
why is the mini so smoll if he's supposed to be this big

>>95872851
>Ticks are parasitic arachnids of the order Ixodida

check out my new guy

>>95877422
Oh yeah. That's the good blood drip. Can never get the blood to look so wet though, like its freshly spilt.

>>95877885
I found that trick just yesterday. Just use glossy varnish after you are done one the parts you want to look wet

>>95878099
I'll be honest. Never would have found that out. Not got enough money and models to try things out besides the tutorials I find online.

>>95876586
Honestly did not know that, anon, thanks for the info.

>>95877422
>>95878099
Good shit, man!

finally got time to work on my wrath court of seven serpents, got 2 hell knights done and my sorceress. Sorceress is not done as ive got to do the staff, details and her her but i am happy with her, though i feel like she might be a little bit too short to pass as a proper sorcerer, should i increase her height a bit by adding thins on her base?

>>95879022
I would definitely put her on top of something. Sorcerer lore has them refusing to actually touch the ground so if you can put her on a little nimbus or something it would add height and help make her look less obviously like she's a footslogging model.

>>95879318
could use a spare disc from my aos tzaangors(lying in my bits box for 6 years...) and use some clear sticks to push the disc just above ground to make it seem while its floating while not making my sorcerer too tall.
Would that work?

>>95879660
Dont worry too much about height, as long as its on the right base size it could just be a bundle of rocks if you like. They look good by the way, but I would maybe paint some occult symbols on them or something, they look a little TOO warhammer.

>>95879660
You can try flipping the disc over and making it into a sort of spider-platform thing. I'm not sure what the underside of it looks like, but that seems more promising than trying to file off all the tzeentch eyeball iconography off of it. I agree with the other anon though, these look good but need a bit more work to make them not just look like GW chaos units.

>>95877422
Looking good anon

Bump

>>95784749 (OP)
> TWO WEEK OLD thread
Ded gaem

>>95784749 (OP)
I’ll be honest I’m fucking kicking myself I didn’t back the kickstarter and pre order the hardback book, it’s over isn’t it?

>>95784749 (OP)
So am I the only one who thinks the whole grim dark slap your models in enough oil to cook your dinner kinda shit? But at the same time it really does fit the TC universe, I think I need to see more paint jobs

>>95885901
Theres a fine line between grim dark, and "I pulled this out of my toilet" for sure.

>>95885901
In the end it depends on the artists hand to execute their vision. If either fails, reality fails to live up to the dream. Like this one >>95885932 They were capable and their hand steady enough to create the illusion of rust and thus really sell the idea that this model has left to the elements and time. Once pristine, now sullied.

>Looks closer: It's a Plague Knight.

nvm. It was born sullied.

>>95885968
Since the designs of your guys is left to interpretation you can get as clean or messy as you like.

>>95879022
Sorry but I'm cringing so hard at these models compared to the actual Sorcerer and Hellknight designs. This is some cartoonish Age of Sigmar shit and doesn't belong in TC.

>>95879733
That mini looks awesome. Yours? Any more pics of it?

>>95885732
but I only started like 4 days ago!
Gonna paint some small ones today probably.

>>95887837
Not mine, its someones take on dirge. Im actually curious what they are suppose to look like officially, considering they use guns and are bereft of disease.

>>95887837
>>95889146
Source is Halbernacht on insta, some vtuber mini painter. Nice painter.

>>95885888
So it seems

New MgM Trench Crusade battlereport. This time it is NA Kigndom of Alba vs Court of the Seven-heaved Serpent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biYi8CWamG4

>>95887607
>He gatekeeps a niche tabletop wargame on an Angolian worm-slapping image BBS
>That he doesn't even play
>For free

If you'd added constructive advice like removing ornamentation and adding dirt to the edges to simulate wear & tear, you might have convinced you had strong opinions instead of a prolapsed anus from how much a single image personally sodomized you. Post models or GTFO

>>95890905
>>95885888
they better sell it...it would be an incredible waste not to

>>95879733
>Symbols or something
hmmm, maybe i do a black symbol on each of the red armor plating and white symbols on the cloaks
>>95880117
>a bit more work to make them not just look like GW chaos units.
yeah i get that i do have a spare copy of the knight on the right which i might try a different colour scheme, maybe instead of flat red i could do dark metal with a red wash and also dull the brass using a dirt wash thing is i do have one small problem which ill touch on at the end of this post.
>>95891743
>removing ornamentation
so apart from the sorcerer who has quite a bit of it(which i do like, though i might cut off the braid coming off the staff) i dont see much on the knights, though maybe im just blind
>adding dirt to the edges to simulate wear n tear
so this is another nice idea, might do it for my knights as they are foot sloggers, maybe also around the feet and on the lower legs/ankle
was also considering having blood on their weapons, shields and maybe pauldorns too.

With that said, i do have a big problem with these plans and that is the fact that i don't like to "dirty" my models, i like clean schemes and my armies/ collections to look uniform. However i do understand that as this is a low model count skirmish team and of the setting itself that it would make much more sense to make my models as gritty as possible. Not liking the idea but might still try on my next day off.

Btw quick question, for mercenaries in the army would it be better for them to fit in colour scheme wise with my team or to have their own schemes to fit the idea that they are mercenaries?

Also thank you for the advice

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>>95855953
Decided to go full Banshee on my chorister instead of just a severed head. Both because it was easier than carving away the head and in case I want to run Trench Ghosts in the future.
The lore reason for having a banshee my naval raiding party is that the banshee was the heretic priest's wife and he made a deal with a patron devil after she died for her soul to be bound to his for the rest of his mortal life.

Still have a few details to tweak on the mini but kinda dig it so far.

Chorister-Banshee theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRNfeMaUBbo
>sung from the perspective of her husband, the Heretic Priest

>>95893195
>i don't like to "dirty" my models, i like clean schemes and my armies/ collections to look uniform
Then you'll have to go hard in the opposite direction. Gilded, over-ostentatious, loud. Motherfuckers who have bought their wealth with the sweat of other's brows and spent it on themselves. Might obligate you to spend Ducats on their upgrades though to match what they're wearing.

Flesh Bled
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