Looking to get into a card game because Magic shat itself to death and yugioh is fucking abysmal
How is Netrunner?

>>95825857 (OP)
Used to be great, then it was killed. Then it was great again and was killed again.

>>95825857 (OP)
It's amazing.
It's also nearly completely dead IRL in most places (though nominally fan org is keeping it in print and in development), outside of games on jinteki organized via pisscord.

Killed by Twitter

>>95825857 (OP)
>How is Netrunner?
Dead, its corpse violated by Null Signal Games.

>>95825857 (OP)
its a great game, go find a buddy to play it with

Don’t limit yourself to “just” card games. There are some card-driven wargames that nuke old Richard Garfield designs (mtg, Netrunner, et al).

Twilight Struggle is a card-driven game and one of the greatest game designs of all time. You can get the physical game for cheap, and there is a fantastic digital version on Steam. If you go to GMT games website, you can preorder the anniversary edition which will, like everything GMT puts out, will be extremely high quality.

For a minimal investment you can get one of the best card-based games of all time which you can play with your friends, and you can get the digital client and get access to a competent AI as well as the online community. And it’s self-contained - no bazillion expansions and reams of cards to sort through. Just you, your opponent, and a truly mind-bending game of strategy and war.

>>95825857 (OP)
great but pozzed

>>95825857 (OP)
It's a good game but overrun by woke wankers.

>>95825857 (OP)
If you want to try a bunch of new one-box games instead of adopting a new lifestyle games, I can suggest looking into:

Air Land & Sea
Gosu X
Race for the Galaxy
Compile
Reinforcements
Hanamikoji
Epic Card Game (most like MtG on this list)
Undaunted
Innovation

I don't even like all of these, they might just interest you and are worth researching.

I don't generally like deck builders but Ascension and Shards of Infinity are both a lot simpler than the contrived-ass alternatives, I hate Aeon. Star Realms plays itself.

>>95825857 (OP)
Warhammer Invasion is dead.
Legend of the Five Rings is dead.
Call of Cthulhu is dead.
Mage Wars is dead.
Final War is dead.

These are all "complete" games I own. All of them were better than MtG or YGO. You never played them because there was nobody else around you playing them. You won't get other people to enjoy them like you will if you start playing them now.

Go for Ashes, Summoner Wars, Marvel Champions, or any other game still being made. People assume that when a product line is finished it's a waste of time and money to play it because the TCG business model fucked everyone's baseline reasoning on the matter.

>>95826866
Twilight Struggle is a great game but it's fundamentally a different game from MTG or Netrunner in every way other than some of its game pieces are made out of cardstock.

>>95825857 (OP)
I can't recommend Exceed and BattleCon enough. Both from Level99, both try to emulate fighting games. Exceed is the simpler and more portable of the two with all characters being confined to a tuck box and cards, and has a bunch of licensed characters like Street Fighter, Guilty Gear, etc. BattleCon is a little more in-depth, but requires more tokens and bits. I like BattleCon's "Base + Style" mechanic of picking your moves, though, compared to Exceeds single-card plays.

>>95830117
Seconding these.
I'm more of an Exceed man because I love how clean and evocative of fighting games the mechanics are, but you can't go wrong with either.
The only issue is that getting the out-of-print sets is a huge bitch. Level 99 doesn't sell BattleCon on their website anymore and the only Exceed set they have available is the Guilty Gear Strive rebranded one. You can find most of them on eBay though.

>>95830236
I worry they've given up on BattleCon entirely. Which sucks because while my friend got it, I missed out on the full reprint Kickstarter. They had said reprints were going to come again, but this was pre-covid, and now they seem to have pivoted from World of Indines to licensed IPs entirely. Was anyone REALLY clamoring for a Dead by Daylight board game?

>>95830270
It's quite said really. I liked their OC stuff they were doing with both Exceed and BattleCon, but while the pivot into licensing and crossovers made sense at first since they were making fighting card/board games for fighting games (with the exception of Shovel Knight), they've since doubled down on it with things like the Dead by Daylight game which I honestly couldn't care less about. Rebranding Exceed into the Guilty Gear Strive game also tells me that they're largely done with Exceed as a universal system for the time being as well. I don't think that bodes well for BattleCon since it's a more complex game that isn't as easy to develop for.

l>>95827322
It's actually insane how insurmountable of an advantage of being the first big success seems to be for tabletop games. Its as if you can't fuck it up even if you try. Chess dominated for centuries and still remains popular. Monopoly is still a fucking thing and go to for non gamers who want a board game despite how utter garbage it is. Then of course there's Warhammer, DnD, and MtG. Hell I would say Yu-Gi-Oh is still alive and various other weebcards that aren't pokemon never make it past niche for this exact reason. Only board games seem to be different, and the big names still have massive intertia...and I think the only reason this is so is because board gamers usually play tons of different games. As opposed to RPGs, wargames, and tcgs which tend to require a level of devotion unless you're an extremely casual player.

Try flesh and blood, we have pirates

Check out Netrunner Reboot project. Takes the best sets from FFG Netrunner and tweaks the bad cards to be more playable

>>95830270
They just finished their crowdfunding for Pixel Tactics, which is almost as old and entirely Indines. A Battlecon reprint is basically guaranteed to come since it's free money. I think the main obstacle is the sheer amount that needs to be reprinted. There's like 5 boxed sets and 30 solo fighters.

Level 99 in general be like

>>95831181
People don't want to learn new rules, so they play what is familiar.
In the case of TCG and war games, it is very much a sunk cost fallacy in action. MtG hasn't been a good game for over 20 years but people still play it because "I got all these cards I bought" and Warhammer arguably never good mechanically but "I got all these minis".

>>95825857 (OP)
NSG stuff is alright but keep declining in quality each set balance wise, the devs seem stuck between wanting to make a good game for everyone and catering to hardcore fans/le sickos

>>95827322
Holy shit, someone actually played Final War? I worked on that years ago. Fun fact - the title type in Final War had to be changed pre-release because the F and I were too close together and read as “Anal War”

>>95837396
Shame it never got finished because one of the lead designers died. There was one more set of leaders left.

Yeah, I got a bunch of it because when it became a dead game it was easy to find entire unopened booster pack boxes for less than $5. So I got a shitload of the game but the rarity system for cards is probably the most retarded one ever made.

>>95837396
>the F and I were too close together and read as “Anal War”
I mean, I'd try that game.

>>95842837
I'm sure you would

>>95825857 (OP)
I loved netrunner when I was in highschool, good luck finding anyone who plays it