Thread 95838331 - /tg/ [Archived: 1221 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:45:30 PM No.95838331
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What the FUCK is a Chinese Sensitivity Team?

The whole nu Cathay thing absolutely stinks (don't pretend them deliberately being mysterious for decades in the background of WHFB completely justifies a torrent of plastic sloppa now)

And yet the pigs will honk and squeal as always
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:48:17 PM No.95838347
>>95838331 (OP)
Cathay basically ruined TWW3 by feeling out of place and World of Warcrafty. Well, that and they reddit-ified Kislev.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:49:50 PM No.95838356
Games Workshop, 1980-2008
>Oi Perrys, have you finished sculpted those Pygmies yet? We're off for a pub lunch
>the Brettonians are lead by Louen Le Wanker haha silly Frenchies let's watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail again

James Workshop now
>have you consulted the Chinese Sensitivity Team and our partners at Creative Assembly in case you offend the sensibilities of the Glorious Nation of China?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:52:05 PM No.95838379
continue reading
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>>95838331 (OP)
>What the FUCK is a Chinese Sensitivity Team?
You could just continue reading the article, where they explain exactly what they were doing?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1ovkvf4r/old-world-almanack-building-the-celestial-empire-of-grand-cathay/
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:55:52 PM No.95838407
I love that the implication is that GW would have released The Most Racist Miniatures Known to Manโ„ข if not for careful consultation.

Meanwhile, the other "fleshed out via Total War" faction Kislev, is a complete hodgepodge of Polish, Czech, Cossack, Russian and Ukranian. Where was the sensitivity team on that?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:56:42 PM No.95838416
First of all, westoid corporations still daydream of tapping into the Chinese consoomer money, despite all evidence showing that great success there as a western entertainment product is unlikely unless your product is Hollywood goyslop.
Second of all, Chinese-American SJWs are insanely hysterical about portrayals of culture they have probably never even lived in, and hold quite a lot of sway in cultural consultancy business.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:58:06 PM No.95838425
>>95838379
What I'm reading here is
>don't offend China by depicting things they don't like
>do pander to China by depicting things they do like
>don't use Western perspectives, even though when the East does it, it is "a cool way of pushing into new areas of creativity"
Some insane double-think going on to make all these decisions on the basis of being "historically accurate" when it's a fucking fantasy setting
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:59:08 PM No.95838432
>>95838379
>historically accurate
>Warhammer
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:00:40 PM No.95838445
>>95838379
Ah look, here is one of the pigs to honk and squeal
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:01:21 PM No.95838450
>>95838379
Don't the chinese have a ban on depictions of skeletons and time travel?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:01:28 PM No.95838451
>>95838445
>wow you came into the bait thread and revealed that literally the next paragraph answers the OP's question
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:02:08 PM No.95838458
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>>95838407
>The Most Racist Miniatures Known to Manโ„ข
GW did produce the Pygmies models, and most, unless you are in on the joke with them, find those models offensive to certain groups
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:02:39 PM No.95838461
>>95838425
Theyโ€™re being paid to pander to the egos of Chinese nationalists and investors who want that Asian market, theyโ€™d commit as much double-think as necessary for even one Yuan more. Actual customers need not talk.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:06:52 PM No.95838496
>>95838416
>Chinese-American SJWs are insanely hysterical about portrayals of culture
Russian-nationalist tier rhetoric is so funny considering how rootless they are.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:07:56 PM No.95838506
>>95838356
Money is more important than soul because everyone has lost their souls. Welcome to Hell.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:08:17 PM No.95838508
>>95838451
What's bait about it?

It's a good point, why this time was there a Sensitivity Team?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:08:57 PM No.95838516
>>95838379
>you may notice Japanese are doing to same thing to medieval aesthetics
what a load of stinking bull
not a single soul on that island cares if their dnd clone anime offends a euro or bong
because not a single person in Europe takes offence when people adapt their culture

chinks are just petty insects
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:10:55 PM No.95838536
>>95838516
Isekai sloppa material would look very tonally dissonant in WHFB.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:11:56 PM No.95838543
>>95838356
China continues to do nothing and win
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:13:05 PM No.95838556
>>95838508
the future is now and corporate, old man.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:18:41 PM No.95838594
>>95838356
A 6th edition WFB version of Cathay would have been an interesting thing to see
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:23:14 PM No.95838626
>>95838516
>because not a single person in Europe takes offence when people adapt their culture
They go fucking insane when Americans do it.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:24:58 PM No.95838638
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>>95838407

They mostly and deliberately sanitized the ethnic situation in Kislev.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:34:44 PM No.95838721
>>95838638
They turned it into a World of Warcraft faction.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:35:18 PM No.95838727
>>95838594
Would never have happened because of the setttings philosophy
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:36:49 PM No.95838739
>>95838331 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation

The Chinese are a buck broken race
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:39:05 PM No.95838753
>>95838331 (OP)
>What the FUCK is a Chinese Sensitivity Team?
It's a very necessary thing anon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:41:32 PM No.95838772
>>95838508
Because Poles and Czechs will buy miniatures for a faction that is a mishmash of Eastern European stereotypes, but the stinky chinkies will boycott your whole business if you make miniatures that refer to any of the dozen or so โ€œCenturies of Humiliationโ€ that they endured at the hands of various steppe nomads or England.

God forbid you make a miniature with the old stereotypical braid.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:47:38 PM No.95838807
Brits depicting their own land
>it's a nowhere island filled with bog living druids and chaos fucks
Brits depicting the french
>overtly insane noble caste and tons of peasant disparity
Brits depicting the germans
>bureaucratic mess barely holding on, loves taxes
Brits depicting the swedes
>demon worshiping madmen
Brits depicting north america
>rapists and pirates with sex cults who torture people for fun
Brits depicting china
>needs to be sanitized and make sure not to offend anyone
Makes you think.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:51:13 PM No.95838834
>>95838543
Its only a matter of time until the weak willed liberals get burned hard by the Chinese and you see them calling the Chinese subhuman like they do Russians. If only they knew the Chinese were also aiding the Russians...
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:52:15 PM No.95838844
>>95838807
Don't forget they depict Meds as pirates and incompetent middling nations.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:53:01 PM No.95838848
>>95838331 (OP)
>What the FUCK is a Chinese Sensitivity Team?
chink commy political commissars
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:54:51 PM No.95838863
>>95838458
>Truth is offensive
Tough luck
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:55:55 PM No.95838875
>>95838739
I mean they got bully by over 10 nations. They even got a song about it: https://youtu.be/Eq8Hy7527fc?si=sy92lF94wSNKJdYG
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:00:50 PM No.95838905
>>95838331 (OP)
No wonder cathay is the most soulful faction
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:01:55 PM No.95838917
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Nu-GW is cucked and fucked. WORD
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:09:23 PM No.95838979
>>95838807
I havent read any (post 6th) Cathay lore because I dont care for it and its probably dogshit, but do they have any weaknesses for shortcomings at all? Or are they depicted as as glorious, benevolent saviours as they are in every other franchise trying to reach the chinese market?
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:10:51 PM No.95838991
>>95838407
Not to mention that noone ever clarified with the Aztec Sensitivity team if the Lizardmen are oklay.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:11:13 PM No.95838995
>>95838356
> Glorious Nation of China
I think you meant
The Glorious People's Republic of China gweilo.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:12:14 PM No.95839003
>>95838407
> Slavs
> Mattering
Top kek my lad
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:15:43 PM No.95839033
>>95838331 (OP)
>But for cultural reasons [skulls] don't align with a Chinese influence
Yeah, because the CCP famously ban skulls and skeletons. The Chinese sensitivity team will be making sure they align with what the CCP demands.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:17:22 PM No.95839050
>>95838379
>Grandmaster Semiotician
what the FUCK is that
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:20:19 PM No.95839069
>>95838331 (OP)
>ask some chinamen if you're breaking some taboo or referencing an obscure historical event by accident
>NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT, YOU MUST BE AS IGNORANT AS ME AND BASE YOUR BIG PRODUCT LAUNCH ON FORTUNE COOKIES AND KUNG POW!
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:21:50 PM No.95839081
>>95838379
>>95838331 (OP)
What's wrong with combining Japanese Korean and Chinese aesthetics? The empire is a melting pot of European culture.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:23:16 PM No.95839092
>>95838432
Warhammer draws lots of stuff from history.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:23:24 PM No.95839093
>>95839069
>Can't include witch hunters or plague doctors because it's a taboo era in European history
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:24:05 PM No.95839098
>>95839069
I mean, that makes sense, but I wonder if they're working with Chinese neckbeards to make something cool and appealing, or if they're just working with suits.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:24:18 PM No.95839099
>>95839050
someone who is good at the study of signs and symbols he probably a artist who knows all the connogtharty for every faction
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:24:49 PM No.95839103
>>95839093
Warham Witch hunters are more of a burgeristan taboo
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:25:21 PM No.95839108
>>95839081
>The empire is a melting pot of European culture.
Yeah, but French, Germans, Austrians, Belgians etc do not bitch around because of that. The Chinese likely do.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:25:51 PM No.95839113
>>95839098
Anon, all the people making desicions are guys in suits.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:27:16 PM No.95839133
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>>95839069
I'm glad I don't, in 2025 CE, live in such a shit country where a toy company can't reference things.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:28:40 PM No.95839153
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>>95838331 (OP)
I wonder who's behind this decision...
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:28:48 PM No.95839156
>>95838331 (OP)
>it's skulls, it's death, it's grimness
This entire franchise really is reddit incarnate.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:29:45 PM No.95839165
>>95839133
Are people actually, honestly, unironically, nostalgic for pygmies?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:30:08 PM No.95839169
>>95839069
>its le heckin ignorant!
I dont care if its ignorant you fucking faggot, I care that its fun and compelling
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:30:52 PM No.95839176
>>95839169
Why would anyone care what you want?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:32:00 PM No.95839186
>>95839099
Iconography*
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:32:21 PM No.95839189
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>>95839165
Nah if you actually go in any of the Oldhammer groups they're not particularly notable amongst the many old miniatures Citadel made.

But because of the retrospective controversy they are brought up far more frequently on /tg/
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:33:27 PM No.95839198
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>>95839176
>why would a business care what the consumer wants
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:34:20 PM No.95839209
>>95839198
>I'm the main character and only my opinion matters
Avatarposting is verboten btw
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:35:05 PM No.95839215
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>>95839165
I'm nostalgic for anything that's not this designed-by-committee corporate bullshit.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:37:13 PM No.95839237
>>95839108
They do though
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:37:56 PM No.95839243
>>95839133
It's freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:38:58 PM No.95839252
>>95839215
Then GamesWorkshop is not the right company for you. Luckily there are dozens of alternatives.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:40:58 PM No.95839269
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Meanwhile, at Copplestone Miniatures:
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:42:44 PM No.95839281
>>95839269
This was not ran past the Chinese Sensitivity Team
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:44:16 PM No.95839294
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>>95839243
I forgot it was the constitutionally protected rights of the individual that led us to every authoritarian regime.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:44:33 PM No.95839297
>>95839209
Correct, the opinions of touristniggers and secondaries such as yourself do not count
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:44:36 PM No.95839298
>>95839281
That IS the Chinese sensitivity team.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:49:30 PM No.95839337
>>95839243
Why do people say this when the point Indeed is that you can say what you can without fear the government will punish you for it. You can always say whatever you want in nations without free speech, the difference is the consequences of it
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:54:10 PM No.95839376
>>95839169
>I dont care if its ignorant you fucking faggot, I care that its fun and compelling
Drawing on real history and mythology (not copy-pasting it) is almost always more interesting than warmed-over stereotypes, which are copies of copies of copies.

Unfortunately, rather than the Dragon Emperor being some kind of immortal Qin Shi Huang or something else interesting (Yongle? Wang Mang? Taizong?), it seems instead it's just "he's a good guy who rules with wisdom and justice," blech:

>Harmony is the driving force behind Cathayan society. The teachings of the Dragon Emperor are such that everyone must work in concert with themselves and the land for the betterment of all and to find their natural place. This quest for harmony drives everything in Cathay, from their magic lores of Yin and Yang to how the Cathayan Dragons govern their people. Far from tyrants or aloof aristocrats, the Cathayan Dragons act as teachers and wardens for the Human populace. They see little point in creating an imbalance between mortals and themselves when the ever-present threat of Chaos will happily destroy them all.

>Similarly, the Cathayan Dragons are not treated as gods by their people, nor do they demand worship. They are immensely powerful beings, rulers by magical and physical right rather than mysterious divinity. The iconography of the Cathayan Dragons is common-place and ever-present throughout Cathayan society, but only because they are very real, very present, and very powerful rulers. They are treated by their people with the reverence such powerful and wise beings deserve and speaking ill of them, especially if one is not native to Grand Cathay, is a quick way to get oneself killed.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:56:28 PM No.95839394
>>95839376
It feels distinctly unwarhammer. Like it's literally
>yes everything is actually good, these immortal rulers are also good no underlying issues
Which doesn't fit.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:56:57 PM No.95839402
>>95839337
It's meant to be an implied threat, instead of merely an objective statement of living with the reactions and repercussions of expressing your opinion in a public manner.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:58:43 PM No.95839410
>>95839069
It's more the aesthetic of a faction in this Tabletop Wargame made in Europe are dictated by the whims of a single very politically motivated group who care much more about curating a specific image of their past rather than GW just being more free to go with they think the Not-China faction of WFB should look like.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:58:54 PM No.95839411
>>95838626
Not really.
We might make fun of your attempt if it's particularly silly, but otherwise we only care about if it's fun or not.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:58:57 PM No.95839412
>>95839081
That argument works if we're talking about supposed historically accurate works, see the Assassin's Creed shitstorm. It's less of a huge deal when talking about deliberate stylistic choices. They don't need a sensitivity team, they need DVDs of martial arts films.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:03:08 PM No.95839438
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>>95838626
>not a single person in Europe takes offence when people adapt their culture.
I'm just happy to get mentioned.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:03:50 PM No.95839447
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I do really wonder how necessary Cathay even is.

The Old World is meant to be a love letter to WHFB as it was. They're basically Age of Sigmar'ing it into something new with the usual churn and release cycle for consoomers.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:04:33 PM No.95839452
>>95839412
Yeah, like this is a setting where arab traders have wind djinn power their boats as they sale to trade with atlantis elves, nothing was going for realistic so odd to do it for china.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:05:00 PM No.95839457
>>95839376
>it seems instead it's just "he's a good guy who rules with wisdom and justice,"
Of course it is, literally all media intended for the chinese market is this way
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:05:34 PM No.95839461
>>95839438
Do you think chaos warriors in the finnish region all have autism?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:06:08 PM No.95839468
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>>95839081
>What's wrong with combining Japanese Korean and Chinese aesthetics?
Other than they hate each other? Nothing, really. I mean, historically they've been copying each other for thousands of years anyway.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:06:29 PM No.95839471
>>95839461
So they all worship Tzeentch then?
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:07:04 PM No.95839476
>>95838450
Skeletons is kind of odd to me because there's a few depictions in their media. The time travel one is specifically because the CCP hates people implying pre-CCP life was better.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:08:43 PM No.95839488
>>95839476
It's cause depictions of ghosts and death are unlucky as shit. It's why some buildings don't mark their 4th floor as the fourth floor.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:10:04 PM No.95839500
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>>95839476
I believe its a superstition thing, bad luck to depict death. Incidentally this means they should break easier when fighting undead.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:10:14 PM No.95839502
>>95839461
There are no Chaos warriors there, only forsaken people living in holes in the ground far apart, doing more damage to each other and themselves than any possible enemy. Invaders are most in danger of falling into these holes, especially in the winter when they're covered in snow.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:13:00 PM No.95839521
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That's actually a point

GW can suck CCP dick all they want, but the setting is otherwise full of skeletons and death, so how the fuck would they market it anyway?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:14:07 PM No.95839533
>>95839521
All the skeletons, zombies, and vampires are covered in giant censorship bars. Or get turned into robots.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:15:39 PM No.95839546
>>95839521
they might just bot sell Tomb King or Vampires in China and they won't appear in Cathay art or lore
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:23:10 PM No.95839594
>>95839447
>I do really wonder how necessary Cathay even is.
Not at all.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:28:03 PM No.95839633
>>95838331 (OP)
Chinkees don't actually "hate" skulls, they just want to come up with excuses to attack the "capitalist white man". Every word a chinkee speaks is a lie, especially if he says it in english.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:36:50 PM No.95839693
I'm actually curious if the average chinese person actually cares about artistic licenses at all considering they loved World of Warcraft and that's about as accurate as fortune cookies.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:39:44 PM No.95839715
>>95839693
The average Chinese person generally doesn't care about anything besides getting rice in their bowls. The Chinese nationals are the only ones who give a flying fuck about this, and primarily in a "recognize our cultural superiority" way.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:39:49 PM No.95839719
>>95839693
They constantly reviwebomb whatever vidya they consider have slighted the grorious CCP in whatever way.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:42:57 PM No.95839750
>>95838407
It's literally just fucking skeletons dude. GW loves slapping skulls and skeletons on everything, China almost never puts skeletons on anything.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:46:26 PM No.95839773
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>>95839750
Yeah, you can even see this in some oft he old Cathay art that exist,s like this one from WFB 8th edition army book