>GW can't show negative Chinese stereotypes with Cathay for fear of offending China
>the Conquest wargame happily parodies negative aspects of European, Indian, Arabic, Japanese and Byzantine cultures
>Infinity has an all-flaws-included hypercapitalist US-derived Western faction and a massively repressive CCP-derived Chinese faction
What gives? Why is GW in particular cucking to China? Is it a UK thing? Why do the Spaniards and Greeks not give a fuck?

Annoying your Chinese audience only matters to companies large enough to actually have a Chinese audience. How the fuck is this not utterly obvious to you?

>>95856895
>he thinks games workshop makes any significant money out of china

>>95856881 (OP)
>Different people make different decisions in different situations about different things
Well, keep us updated on this breaking story, anon. I can't wait to see what exciting information you deliver next.

>>95856881 (OP)
Not all fear of offending Chinese people is a CCP psyop thing, this is modern GW we're talking about. It'd probably be icky and racist to make them look bad at all.

>>95856881 (OP)
because the chinease state might just be petty enough to swing its dick into your mouth and ruin your day. UK, spain or greece wont

>>95856881 (OP)
>Infinity has an all-flaws-included hypercapitalist US-derived Western faction
It's much worse than that: they're Australian.

>>95856881 (OP)
blackrock/vanguard

>>95856881 (OP)
>thread about YJ being repressive
>pic not being the Bao Troop art
That will be -15 points from your social credit score, comrade-subject.

>>95857350
What does this mean?

>>95857392
You must be at least 18 to use 4chan.

>>95856881 (OP)
You didn't even post their slave soldiers with an integrated chest mine who are brainwashed forced to be suicide chaff because their credit score is too low.

>>95857548

>>95856881 (OP)
For as much as GW fanboys beat their chests about Warhammer’s setting being dark and gritty and mature, their settings still very clearly have good guys and bad guys. The good guys might be ruthless and the bad guys might (rarely) have some sliver of sympathetic motives, but it’s still apparent who you’re supposed to cheer for. Like 90% of the fluff is “good guys are so cool and brave, don’t we love them” or “oh the good guys did the awful thing, but they *had* to don’t you see, there was no other option so they’re justified.”

Meanwhile, every faction in Infinity is an asshole. Nomads are plucky cyberpunk heroes fighting an oppressive system with courage and resourcefulness… but 90% of their units are deranged lunatics or horror stories like Hollowmen. ALEPH keeps the human sphere together economically and is the one that steps in to slap down hypercorps when they get too triggerhappy… but she also ruthlessly hunts down even harmless dissenters and isn’t afraid to whip out an entire colony. PanO has the highest standard of living and provides a utopia for it’s people… and that utopia is built upon exploitation of ateks, the enslavement of aliens, and the ocean of blood spilt over resources and tech research.

All of this is to say that if GW were to add a China-analog, it would necessarily be another bad guy, one in opposition to their good guy faction. Meanwhile, in Infinity, the China-analog is just one bastard among a sea of bastards.

>>95859983
What's wrong with the other factions?

>>95860356
>Yu-Jing
Modern China mixed with feudal China, uses explosive slave soldiers as mentioned here >>95857839 >>95857548 and was happily oppressing the Japanese. Speaking of

>Japan
Literal terrorist state. Basically weeb Palestine, complete with Hamas. Their rebellion was financed by PanO and now they're fighting PanO.

>Ariadna
Almost 200 years backwards hicks sitting on the most sought for resource in the known galaxy. Stopped fighting each other only long enough to petition for recognition in the space UN. Genocide native Dawn population (while also intermixing with it). Ruled by the Russian part.

>Haqqislam
Comes with almost all the retardation of regular Islam.

>O-12
Space UN/Interpol, will sabotage factions who seem to be getting the upper hand in the fragile stalemate peace state. Also use forbidden weapons, except they made a legal exception for themselves, fancy that.

>NA2
Simply ruthless mercenaries, with Druze being part mafia.

>Tohaa
"Friendly" aliens that manipulate "allies" to their advante, including on a biological level.

>Combined Army
OK, these are just the honest hostile invading aliens. Have a weapon that brainwashes people and make them into weird abominations. Their ultimate quest is doomed from the start, but it doesn't stop them.

>>95862094
Nobody cares for infinity tho.

>>95862254
you cared enough to post ITT
also thanks for the bump

>>95862094
>Haqqislam
Ehh, I think that's a poor assessment. Whatever issues stem from their islamic background are way overshadowed by their unbreakable monopoly on Silk (scifi material used to build artificial and replacement bodies) and what they do to maintain it. For every "fanatical hassassins kill whoever The Old Man on the Mountain says to kill (which seems to mostly be PanO/YJ c-suites anyway)," you get multiple instances of them doing shit like hiring pirates to rape and pillage shipping lanes merely *suspected* of smuggling Silk.

>>95856937
Selling to Chinese audiences is secondary, what actually matters is attracting Chinese investors.

>>95862094
>these are just the honest hostile invading aliens. Have a weapon that brainwashes people and make them into weird abominations
You forgot that they recently agreed to ceasefire and earned themselves a seat on the Space UN. And they occasionally hire out a race of hypercapitalist bugjews who are too self-destructively evil to even be officially allowed in the confederation self-destructively evil aliens

>>95856881 (OP)
There was this pro-China guy on the Infinity subreddit who one day went and bought the entire YJ collection despite having never played the game before. Can't find his post unfortunately.

>>95862314
Sorry I'm still new to the setting, who are the bugjews?

>>95862357
Exrah

>>95862357
The insectoid Exrah, responsible for supply and logistics. Couldn't help themselves from selling plasma weaponry and other classified shit to humans and had all involved executed in short order and their Concordat org disbanded after the EI learned about it. Now their org has been rebranded as Commissariat and is kept on a much shorter leash.

>>95862357
Exrah a.k.a. crabitalists. They operate like 40k Tyranids, but economically: they show up on a planet and start exploiting them for all they're worth, stripping resources and extracting wealth and devastating the environment until the economy finally collapses, then moving on to the next planet like an all-consuming horde of venture-capitalists locust.

I'm pretty sure they were originally booted out because they kept selling secrets and tech to enemy races, but now the fluff has changed to them trying to cheat the CA on their first contact and getting curbstomped for it. Regardless, they're now back in a very limited capacity (since the CA can't trust them to not fuck them over if given even the smallest amount of freedom) after being missing for an edition and a half.

>>95862357
Exrah. Basically an entire species of Nosaacs

>>95862485
Fucking MOONMAN is in Infinity?

>>95862541
>guy is worth the combined funds of every single organization
>you only get 21,500 for beating him
Did fromsoft make a mistake here?

How come infinity never took off as much as 40k did?
I mean with all the ass the models used to have(I don't know what they're like now) you'd think you'd bait that crowd hook line and sinker.
Could it be the name itself doesn't help the game's visibility? Lack of blockbuster secondary media like Dawn of War?

>>95862890
It’s definitely a bad name for a game, but it’s also the weeb aesthetics, the fact it’s an extremely tryhard game and that CB are retards.

>>95857085
Wait until he discovers that other people may have opinions that he doesn't.

>>95862890
Miniatures are niche hobby in general and many of the existing hobbyists were taught to hate pewter with passion by GW when they moved to leadfree alloys that were horrible to work with.

>>95862890
More complex to play, much younger, produced by a smaller company...
It's like comparing a indie game with Fortnite.

>>95863045
Infinity is 20 years old.

>>95862890
All factions look the same, which is really bad for appealling to different people. You need a wide variety of different aesthetics to appeal to a broader audience. It's like 40K was only space marines. Sure they are the most popular faction by a wide margin, but if you had nothing but space marines, everyone who doesn't want to play as dudes in power armor would pass on the game. I loved Aliens as a kid, which is why Tyranids was my first army.

>>95863081
And Warhammer was already a cultural staple in the 90s.

>>95863143
Today I shall remind them

>>95863243
It's almost as if I saw this strawman coming and already accounted for it in my post. Yes, huge number of 40K models are space marines that are very similar. But they also have all the xenos factions that are wildly different from space marines, whereas Infinity has far less strange, breaking-the-mold factions. If I don't want to play as the marines in your picture in 40K, I have plenty of choices. If I don't want to play as dudes with scifi weapons and armor in your picture in Infinity, my choices are extremely limited.

>>95863243
which the infinity armies is most like the alpha legion

maybe the new cartoon will bring in more players or an x-com type game

>>95862777
The rest of society doesn't conform to his economic theory, unfortunately.

>>95863457
The (((Tohaa))).

>>95863182
Hardly outside bri'ain.

>>95863297
>implying aybody plays xenos
Who's the strawman now?

>>95863182
No, the fuck it wasn’t.

>>95863553
>>95863570
By the time DoW came out it was already quite famous, and that was in 2004.

>>95863182
Yeah na. Outside of Britain, the general population might've seen Space Marines on a Bolt Thrower cover.

If they were into Heavy Metal music, that is.

>>95863586
Yeah, way after 90's. Remember that if you weren't a hardcore nerd, you wouldn't have your own Internet access back then. So if you weren't part of some afterschool wargaming club or turbo-nerd, you probaly weren't all that familiar with warhammer.

>>95863586
Before DoW, Shadow of the Horned Rat/Dark Omen were the only good Warhammer games.

>>95863627
Come on, son.

>>95863627
False, both Chaos Gate and Space Hulk kicked ass.

>>95863457
The Shashvastii I would say.

>>95863045
More like comparing it with Call of Duty. Fortnite is itself still fairly new and who knows how long it will remain culturally relevant, but CoD is a storied franchise with a dedicated base of paypiggies that will continue to buy their game at any price no matter how bad the game gets nor how badly executives screw things up behind the scenes in terms of monetization. I feel like that's pretty 1:1 with GW.

>>95864038
Yeah that's probably more accurate.

>>95863823
I like how no one remembers the actual unit name for Dr Worm and everyone just calls it Dr Worm.

which inifinty guys have the most mechs

>>95856881 (OP)
Because GW settings' popularity and relevance is orders of magnitude larger than that of Corvus Belli's

>>95864509
Used to be PanO, but it seems tied with Haqq now (goddammit, down from 8 TAGs to just 4, sad).
But if you want to field more than one you should go with Nomads (Corregidor) and their Gecko team. Although Squalo Mk 2 is fairly cheap and Availability 2 as well.

>>95864921
Some TAGs got moved to sectorial exclusive units(in fact many sectorial specific units got, some sectorials like Varuna essentially became the Vanilla).
Of course "most TAGs" can also mean "most TAGs at once in a still somewhat viable list", where you want cheap TAGs more than TAG options overall. Corregidor for example has "only" three TAG options, but you you could run a 2-3 Geckos in a Haris and still have just enough points for a somewhat viable list.

>>95864269
Or Obsidian Bananoid.

>>95864509
PanOceania, Nomads (Corregidor), CA (Onyx)
(there's also been a few squattings between the editions so check before you commit)

>>95863477
They would benefit immensely by a decent Xcom style game on pc. But it probably will never happen

>>95862541
>Nosaac

I was incredibly pleased to find and kill this guy. AC-based character builder wargame when?

>>95864921
Not only are Geckos really cheap (and really good for their points), the Nomad flyer is even cheaper (and is also really really good for its points). You could run two Geckos and the rocketspam Go-Pod in a standard list and still have about half your points and SWC to play with for support, ARO detail, an objective grabbing units. That's not ideal, but given that other factions have TAGs that cost 1/3 of your total points budget by themselves, you comparatively have a ton of listbuilding flexibility even when focusing so much on mechs and vehicles.

>>95865122
They are launching an Aristeia videogame at least. Maybe an Infinity game proper will be next, if this goes well.