>accurate depiction of a Fighter fighting a Ranger / Barbarian / Rogue simultaneously

>>95860539 (OP)
they're all fighters because they're all fighting

>>95860539 (OP)
What system? I would love to play a game that actually mechanically reflects this fantasy instead of the fighter just getting shit on by a wizard half his level with a save-or-suck spell.

>>95860555
2nd Edition D&D

>>95860539 (OP)
He's defending himself well but that Barb only took like 4 damage total with his rage resistance applied.

>>95860539 (OP)
This teaser trailer years ago inspired me to add a homebrew mechanic where, if the attacker's BAB was as high as, or higher than the caster level of the attacker, they could pull a reversal move on touch-spells.

>>95860539 (OP)
>SOME DAY LOVE WILL FIND YOU
>BREAK THOSE CHAINS THAT BIND YOU
>ONE NIGHT WILL REMIND YOU
>HOW WE TOUCHED AND WENT OUR SEPARATE WAYS

>>95860539 (OP)
I wanna falcon punch every single caster in their fucking mouth.

>>95861398
You can't do that if casters summon falcons to punch you.

>>95861398
And what, you think Captain Falcon is a martial instead of a gish? The man has electric knees and makes you explode with a hug.

>>95860555
some guy did this whole fight in GURPS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRedhZkICPg

>>95860539 (OP)
>>95860555
Watching this, I wanna play a system where unarmed strikes aren't a joke desperation option that requires purpose-monk-building from the start to use in combat.

Fighters can now use an attack to strike with fist or feet, damaging a target a non evasive target without needing a hit roll. 1d4 damage, explodes on 1 representing combination attack damage. Using another attack in this way brings the damage dice up one tier.

>>95860539 (OP)
>tg
>video game trailers
op plays no games

>>95860539 (OP)
The way he man-handles the rogue is always so good.
>>95860865
>IF HE EVER HURT YOU
>TRUE LOVE WON'T DESERT YOU
>YOU KNOW I STILL LOVE YOU
>THOUGH WE TOUCHED AND WENT OUR SEPARATE WAYS

>>95860572
>Be ADnD fighter
>See mage
>Time stops
>He pull off your pants and then wet-willies your ear
>Casts 3 different types of barrier spells
>Oh now he'll eat stee-
>miss miss miss miss
>*gets melted by fireball*

>>95861553
I am aware that as few people have actually played GURPS as FATAL, but this is not how GURPS works.

>>95860572
This is a lie and you know it.

>>95860539 (OP)
Wow that guy sure would be in trouble if everyone wasn't taking their turns to step in one at a time and swing at him like a bunch of power ranger putties. What an exciting fight scene! I clapped! I clapped when the knight swung his sword!

>>95860539 (OP)
That magic parry was superb, first with the pommel, then with the off-hand.

>>95860539 (OP)
Meanwhile the actual combat in that game is almost as mind-numbingly boring as playing a Martial in D&D.

>>95860539 (OP)
If only that video were representative of TES combat...

>>95862177
It also looks nothing like Elder Scrolls and if someone didn't know it was from that setting they would never realize it based on the content of the scene alone.

>>95860539 (OP)
WHY ARN'T ALL THE STRIKES WITH BLADES CAUSING WOUNDS! Typical game console RPG capeshit.

>>95861496
>The man has electric knees and makes you explode with a hug.
He's a psionic.

>immediately causes every caster to fume and foam at the mouth

>>95861785
>Time stop
>has to cast a 9th level spell in order to even remotely challenge a fighter
Not looking good AD&Disters

>casts 3 different type of barrier spells
None of which would actually stop a martial from closing the distance and hitting you, lmao.

>miss miss miss miss
Never played AD&D I see, lmao.

>>95863273
I guess that would explain how he gets his racer to drive around without him

>>95862249
The only tell for me is the greatsword and battleaxe design since they're straight out of Skyrim

>>95862062
No it isn't. You've never played it.

>>95861578
Someone explain to me how you learn how to wield a sword but you can only punch with all the strength of spongbob hitting a teddy bear? Or how you never learn how to wrestle if only to take away someone's weapon or eventually go for a knife and stab the shit out of someone?

>>95861553
You can do most of that in basic D&D as well, RAW too.

>>95862098
This argument is retarded since A) You risk hitting your team mates IRL if you're swinging swords all in unison at the same at the same target. This is why shortswords and spears were used in large ranks of soldiers in antiquity. Thrusting gives you space to attack, while shortswords don't require as much leverage, and have shorter arcs. Also, they were used mostly for stabbing anyway, similarly to spears.

B) They all DO attack him relatively simultaneously. Did you not see the part where they all attacked him within .25-.5 seconds of each other in the first 10 seconds of the webm? He managed to block/dodge them, and then exploited each and every opening on them afterwards.

C) Fuck you.

>>95860555
"this fantasy" depends on 2/3 of the enemy combatants hanging out off-screen doing nothing most of the time

>>95860555
Always the correct answer.

>>95860539 (OP)
The problem with television/film/cutscene choreography is always the exact same.
>only one person ever attacks at a time

That's just stupid. Two people attack at the same time and boom: deadskis.

>>95860555
I think Fantasy Craft's maneuvers and feat abilities would allow you to reliably have a fight like this. On top of the fact that the Soldier class gets so much fucking HP that you'll be able to survive long enough to try doing fancy disarm and deflect maneuvers.

>>95860539 (OP)
If that mage had a three-digits IQ and a modicum of tactical training, the fight would have been over almost immediately.
She just had to stay at range instead of going melee like a fucking retard and cast her binding spell right at the start, which would have given a couple of seconds for the two other fighters to tear the knight a new one. That's it.

Keep in mind that in every caster VS martial battle of any type, the only way for the martial to survive is for the caster to be made artificially dumb.

The second you make a caster behave and think like an actual soldier, not necessarily a very smart one, just competent, nothing can touch him except other casters that are smarter / stronger.

>>95864146
>nothing can touch him except other casters that are smarter / stronger.
Or an arrow.

>>95860539 (OP)
>Can easily over power the gigantic barbarian dude
>Meanwhile the small woman with a much smaller sword can actually lock and hold his massive blade

>>95864256
As I said, you need to make the caster artificially dumb for an arrow to reach him.

This thread again?

>/tg/ - Failed MMOs

>>95864723
And again and again and again until the mod that hates this board has gotten everyone to leave and convinces the yellow monkey that owns 4chan to close it.

>>95864675
No, you don't get to add your intelligence to armor class.

>>95860572
>casts sleep

>>95864146
Casters don't think like a soldier and Ron's have the reflexes of a rogue. Casterfags try and act like they get the best of all worlds when archetypes with supernatural physical abilities exist around them. The mere fact the Fighter/Barb are even wielding those weapons like wiffleball bats is an astounding display of stelrength and control that isn't realistic at all.

>>95864967
Unless you''re a bladesinger

>>95864146
Everyone forgets that rogues are martials too. The counter to a wizard isn't a guy with a huge sword and flashy armor, it's a guy dressed in black with a knife.

>>95863644
Cautious strafing is a valid strategy

>>95860555
PF2E

Fighter is the Space Marine of the system

>>95866496
Simple, cleverly applied divination is enough to counter everything the rogue might attempt to kill the caster.

>>95866967
>Simple, cleverly applied divination is enough to counter everything the rogue might attempt to kill the caster.
Mmn, not as such, no, not if you're thinking the way I think you're thinking.

Alarm can be actively used against the wizard to prevent them from resting by just intentionally triggering it so they can't get a Long Rest. The Rogue doesn't even need to enter the Alarmed area, just throw a mouse into it.

Augury only provides information out to 30 minutes in the future, and has a cumulative 25% chance per casting after the first of giving no answer.

Detect Thoughts has a duration of 1 minute and only tells you that thinking beings are in range. The "read thoughts" thing only counters a Rogue if you already know you're facing a Rogue.

See Invisibility is useless against Stealth checks.

Divination requires you to be specific. You can't say "will someone attack me in my sleep in the next 7 days", you have to ask "will Artemus Entreri attack me in my sleep in the next 7 days". It also expressly does not account for changing circumstances, i.e., if Artemus has no intention of attacking you at the time of casting then you'll get a "no" answer, but nothing stops him from changing his mind. Also like Augury, multiple castings results in null answers.

Contact Other Plane depends on the being your contacting knowing what a given rogue is getting up to, which they might not.

Truesight, like See Invisibility, is useless against Stealth checks.

Foresight is actually useful since it gives other creatures disadvantage on attacking you. But it is also a 9th level spell, beyond the range of most wizards. Also, the disadvantage is cancelled out by having advantage, which Rogues can just give themselves starting at 4th level.

In sum: Divination in practice isn't useful. A wizard is better protected by creating a Demiplane and sleeping there, but even that is hardly insurmountable by a sufficiently motivated Rogue.

>>95860539 (OP)
Possibly dumb question but what is this from? I know I've seen it before but for the life of me can't remember where. Apologies if I'm just being retarded.

>>95867190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaI-EOVpDvo

>>95863990
It shows him literally defending against simultaneous attacks though.

>>95864146
>Keep in mind that in every caster VS martial battle of any type, the only way for the martial to survive is for the caster to be made artificially dumb.
Funny, since the only way for a caster to win any battle against a martial, is for the caster to be artificially more powerful and precognitive.

>>95865431
Warrior has the best saves in the game in AD&D, so that likely won't work.

>>95866263
>The mere fact the Fighter/Barb are even wielding those weapons like wiffleball bats is an astounding display of stelrength and control that isn't realistic at all.

The passive strength they've gained from casually carrying those weapons around and using them constantly has allowed them to familiarize themselves with the weapons to such a degree that it looks effortless. Same way with a soldier firing an M4 and an untrained civilian firing an M4.

I cannot imagine having the level of autism needed to get into martial v caster debates. Especially when a system isn't even mentioned.

It's so gay. Like powerlevel obsessed children talking about what anime character can be superman or what the fuck ever

>>95865431
>have 6 hit dice
>or just be a gay elf

>>95867574
agreed, we all know Popeye beats everyone, no need to argue about it

>>95866967
>Simple, cleverly applied divination is enough to counter everything the rogue might attempt to kill the caster.
What spells?
What system?

>>95867574
It's only gay when it's faggot nogames engaging in borderline freeform RP.
It's infinitely more acceptable to talk about which classes can beat which in PVP in an actual game with rules.

>>95867847
>It's infinitely more acceptable to talk about which classes can beat which in PVP in an actual game with rules.

It's a team-based game, not a PVP one you retard.

>>95860539 (OP)
No one gets hurt at all lol

>>95862098
>What an exciting fight scene! I clapped! I clapped when the knight swung his sword!
That's me. I say this.

>>95867574
>Especially when a system isn't even mentioned.
It's always D&D 3.5. Every time.