What are some BASED wargames?

But why would I kidnap kids? What's the strategic advantage?

>>95865990
Three loot. Can't you read?

>>95865946 (OP)
realistically speaking would the movement penalty for moving with kidnapped kids be different from adults?

>>95866043
I think you'd just handle it as a two-for-one scenario.

>>95865946 (OP)
All of them, unless you're a filthy greytider.

>>95866074
What if I use tabletop simulator

>>95865946 (OP)
Ah France.

>>95865990
You sell them to the Dublin slave markets, probably.

So is Pillage out yet?
Not the biggest fan of SAGA so another medieval type game would be nice.

>>95866255
I think it might just be previews, but Victrix are selling packs for it on their site. I do like that it's a one box game.

>>95865946 (OP)
AK-47 Republic sounded neat to me, but I never played it.

>>95865990
Slaves or ransom.

>>95865946 (OP)
>BASED
>nonce shit

>>95865946 (OP)
Okay, that's kind of cool.

>>95865946 (OP)
I think the most limiting factor on game development is that the people who make games are almost uniformly fags who have never done anything in real life. When I was in the Peace Corps we actually had a joint operation with the Americans where we removed all of the children in a village because they anticipated a conflict where they were going to be dropping clusterbombs on shit in the area. It wasn't like this at all, the Yanks showed up and paid people to let their kids attend a special "Class" which was 20 kilometers away, basically promising to feed them for several days. They framed it as an aid thing, and then the moment the kids were gone they hit five sites in the town with JDAMs, and when the locals asked they literally said "Oh that was the Russians, don't worry we have air superiority it won't happen again."

Nobody was screaming. The children all thought they were going to Disneyland. Why would you be truthful to people you're enslaving?

>>95869158
retard so desperate to be thanked for your service in the fucking peace corps of all things that you seem to think hearts and minds and JDAMs are relevant to a game that appears to be about viking raids
stupid cunt

>>95869158
in the viking era, people were wary of armed foreigners showing up out of the blue. Also why would a Viking warlord enslave children and ignore the adults and their property? This is a business, they need to turn a profit

>>95869064
>brain ruined by pedophilia, probably outwardly projecting his own diseased desire.

>NATO: Operational combat in Europe

>>95869436
I can't believe people's pedophilia obsession is getting in the way of people enjoying kidnapping children

>>95865990
use them to help boost your 21st century political career

>>95869436
>kidnapping and selling children has ZERO connections to pedophiles, ever.

>>95866409
How are they one box if these packs only contain one army each? Also why are they as expensive as their normal packs while having like 25% fewer models?

The Veil Riders.

>>95869495
In a historical context when you have armies of literal slaves working jobs for other people and not just human trafficking victims for degenerate elites doubling down the on the pedophilia angle is odd.

>>95869478
>we couldn't be bothered to include air assets or tactical nukes in our corps level cold war gone hot wargame

this is shit actually

>>95869695
You turn the boys into soldiers, the girls into whores or wives.

>>95869793
Girls were also used as workforce, there are historical records from 30 years war about how girls of sacked enemy cities were put to work in washing clothes, stirring pots, doing maid work in camps and shit. Yeah, they were probably raped first and maybe in after work hours too, but it is not like they were wasted by allowing them to be passive eaters.

>>95869971
True, but I guess it depends on your people's needs. If you want to settle somewhere and most of your followers are male, you can give them the girls and have them pop babies/work for their households.

>>95869478
This is pretty good.

>>95869793
Even the non-kidnapped girls were making kids at 13. So nonce shit wasn't a reason for kidnapping. Besides, kids are way more useful to train as thralls and soldiers, than waste them for a quick fuck.

>>95870061
Question: what about kids who are actual kids, as in 5 years old instead of "considered kids in modern day but functionally adults back then"?
Because it'd surely be taxing kidnapping a bunch of them, yet still less taxing than making your own and waiting for them to grow to adulthood

>>95865990
Raping material. That's not me being a sicko or edgy either, that's genuinely what happened most of the time.

>>95870149
can they walk, do simple tasks and manage a workday with an adult thrall close by? Worth taking and selling/keeping.
Are they still babies or toddlers that literally will just crawl around and eat your food for a couple more years? Completely worthless, might as well mercy kill them if you're nice.

>>95870149
For most of history and even in many parts of the world right now, kids as young as 3 have been put to some kind of work as a matter of course. It isn't usually "hard" work, but collecting chicken eggs, fetching a pail of water, moving laundry around, sending messages around the community, participating in at least some aspects of cooking, and other similar tasks have been part of daily life for kids since forever. It's a very, very modern idea that kids shouldn't have any responsibilities until they're teenagers.

>>95870149
>>95870253
You could also just ransom them.

>>95870616
>kidnap a noble brat
>pay her family to take her back because she's annoying
>her family doesn't want her back because she's annoying
>both are doing theatrics to save face
I smell a comedy.

>>95870684
>game of pillage where you just keep running the same tantruming kid back and forth like it's football

the photos of this on the site look comfy AF ngl

>>95870965
If you can speak French there's several videos and battle reports by the dev already on YouTube. Been for years.

>the dark ages child slavery thread

nice, I have some questions relating to a project I'm working on.
Should the value of a thrall change significantly if its related to its owner (assuming it doesn't have any formal rights as a result of this)?
How valuable (in terms of other common luxury trade goods like silver, wine, fabrics, furs, glass etc) should a child be in relation to an adult?
Where should the line between useless, kid, adult but smaller and weaker and proper adult be?
How much liberty is it reasonable to give thralls? Would you ever arm them or let them leave the farm without supervision (I.E. hunting, shepherding, cutting wood)?

>>95870684
That's actually the plot of The Ransom of Red Chief by O Henry. It got made into a couple of movies over the years, including one with Danny Devito.

>>95869478
>we didn't include air power because both nations say they'll just wipe out eachother's air power

>but don't they also say that about their ground forces?

>shut up

>>95870233
Kidnappers generally want ransom, rape is just a bonus for those so inclined.

>>95866185
Based and HCE-pilled.

>>95871023
>useless,
Infancy to 4, can hardly walk or speak much less take directions
>kid,
5 to 9, can walk, take directions, can't fight, unless we're talking suicide bomb shit
>adult but smaller and weaker and proper adult be?
Depending on culture and era 12 and up. There's a lot of overlap.

>>95870233
The value of a human child as an economic labor unit far exceeded finding some degenerate who would pay you the money for some sex object. I'm not saying children especially girls between the ages of 13-17 weren't raped but more often than not there was value to a child you could still mold the mind of. For example male children made excellent manservants for nobility and many times you'd have poor people selling their own sons to nobles for that reason.

>>95871311
>dude buy my kid here
>he'll make a great manservant
>he's definitely not going to go insane and get hundreds of people killed in a slavish devotion to christian pacifism or anything

>>95870311
didn't say they wouldn't have any responsibilities, but rather that the contributions don't seem like they'd outweight the costs of keeping them alive, unless you drop them in your farms I guess, but then where are you even getting the "three loot"? Unless it's just some abstraction for the long term benefit of having more workers I guess.
>but collecting chicken eggs
yeah sounds like farm

>>95871311
>For example male children made excellent manservants for nobility and many times you'd have poor people selling their own sons to nobles for that reason.
That's parents either trying to give their children better quality of life, or trying to pay their own debts. Slavery still but surely a kidnapped kid slave would have to be trained first so they don't chimp out.

>>95871325
>cringe anime image
fuck I hated that stupid manga/anime

>>95869757
>anon can't read
*has* rules covering the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
It's Minutemen missiles they're not including.

>>95873229
>fuck I hated that stupid manga/anime
It was really good up to the Baltic Sea War arc but Yukimura sadly went insane.

>>95865946 (OP)
based on what?

>>95871260
if you already killed the parents and destroyed the village, there's not much random to get.

>>95871311
whoever buys them as slaves also rapes them or makes sure they get raped, to break them mentally

>>95874078
it has rules for tactical nukes but no rules for the things that would deliver the tactical nukes (strike aircraft). So they only got SRBMs and nuke artillery really.
I don't know this seems like an incredibly compromised game for no good reason except that it would be too hard to make rules for air power. The argument is incredibly flimsy as well. It's a bit like not having cavalry in your napoleonic game because "well everyone would just form squares to it's useless".
Although I realize this is a game from 1973 and you have to start somewhere. Other games has far surpassed it

>>95870233
Nah, slaves were highly valuable commodities especially impressionable and easily trained kids. A grown ass man? He'll try to escape, he might murder you, but a boy, he'll be too scared to do much more than obey whatever orders you give him and by the time he's a man he'll be so accustomed to slavery that escape or resistance will rarely cross his mind.