Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:03:29 AM No.95868120
Why does interesting art from a female artist make Magicchuds seethe so hard?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:06:52 AM No.95868132
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:16:30 AM No.95868167
>>95868120 (OP)
MTG art is so heavily referenced these days you might as well Photoshop a paint stroke filter onto the reference photo and be done with it.
MTG art is so heavily referenced these days you might as well Photoshop a paint stroke filter onto the reference photo and be done with it.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:20:48 AM No.95868178
>>95868120 (OP)
This looks like something someone would make the first time they played around with photoshop, if this art was anywhere else I might even be tempted to call it soulful
This looks like something someone would make the first time they played around with photoshop, if this art was anywhere else I might even be tempted to call it soulful
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:35:18 AM No.95868228
If this is an actual acrylic or oil painting originally, very cool. If it was originally digital, it’s schlock.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:38:43 AM No.95868236
>>95868120 (OP)
I liked that art honestly. People were always complaining that MTG was too homogeneous, then they go and do something completely different and people complain still for some reason.
I liked that art honestly. People were always complaining that MTG was too homogeneous, then they go and do something completely different and people complain still for some reason.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:49:51 AM No.95868261
>>95868120 (OP)
This art is great but ive noticed chuds and morons stopped complaining about it after black aragorn
This art is great but ive noticed chuds and morons stopped complaining about it after black aragorn
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:54:05 AM No.95868271
>>95868120 (OP)
I don't know, why does Wizards hate lesbians?
>t-that's not why they stopped commissioning art from Nielsen
Whatever homophobe.
I don't know, why does Wizards hate lesbians?
>t-that's not why they stopped commissioning art from Nielsen
Whatever homophobe.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:56:51 AM No.95868282
>>95868120 (OP)
Her art is a little too out there. Her other work's fine but the composition on faithless looting is simply too polarizing. It doesnt help the JP version is a lot easier on the eyes
Her art is a little too out there. Her other work's fine but the composition on faithless looting is simply too polarizing. It doesnt help the JP version is a lot easier on the eyes
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:03:06 AM No.95868316
>>95868282
That one looks bland as shit
That one looks bland as shit
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:04:10 AM No.95868322
>>95868120 (OP)
I like how weird it is.
Reminds of how bizarre some early art for Pokémon cards used to be.
I like how weird it is.
Reminds of how bizarre some early art for Pokémon cards used to be.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:15:23 AM No.95868353
They should use abstract artwork for spells more often, actually
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:49:52 AM No.95868435
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:51:11 AM No.95868549
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:21:42 PM No.95869381
That picture is supposed to be a woman? I always figured it was some guy's grindr profile pic with some random crap shopped on top of it.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:11:38 PM No.95869559
>>95868435
Does it matter? Is the art so challenging? Sounds like a successful work of art
Does it matter? Is the art so challenging? Sounds like a successful work of art
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:24:55 PM No.95869607
>>95868120 (OP)
I think the issue with that particular card was the combo of several factors
>Being a Strixhaven Mystical Archive card
the SMA cards were, like various other sets had, "rare" inclusions. They were meant to be rare, special moments when you pulled one, which increases the expected value (not just fiscal, but social/emotional) of them. Faithless Looting being an iconic card for its impact on the format also helps make people think it should be "good" art.
>Being a fairly out-there design
it is actually not everyone's cup of tea
>Looking like it was thrown together in MSPaint as a placeholder/sketch
Not just unappealing art to many, it looks like it's the mockup someone made to explain what they want to an artist.
>The art not scaling well to card size and the crop
The art piece - it's an actual painting - is about torso sized. There is detail, but your eye ignores it at card size, and your eye is drawn to the large flat colour sections.
>The overall "safeness" of regular Magic art being an established issue by the point this came out
If magic art was as varied today as it was in the earlier days of magic, a card like this would just be "one of the duds" rather than a stand-out dud. We no longer get abstract shit like cryptic command's glyph. Magic art belongs to a genre I like to call ArtStation Fantasy. It's mostly-realistic digital painting that can be replicated as a day job, reliable and safe. You can hire a dozen artists and 11 of them will do it to schedule and follow the brief, and one will flake because that's just the stats.
tl;dr it's not a great piece of art but it's made worse because it sticks out like a big red sore thumb and it went in the "rare treasures" slot. I will not retroactively defend it because things are worse now, but I will contextualise its sucking and the backlash.
>>95869381
>by a woman artist
not "of a woman"
I think the issue with that particular card was the combo of several factors
>Being a Strixhaven Mystical Archive card
the SMA cards were, like various other sets had, "rare" inclusions. They were meant to be rare, special moments when you pulled one, which increases the expected value (not just fiscal, but social/emotional) of them. Faithless Looting being an iconic card for its impact on the format also helps make people think it should be "good" art.
>Being a fairly out-there design
it is actually not everyone's cup of tea
>Looking like it was thrown together in MSPaint as a placeholder/sketch
Not just unappealing art to many, it looks like it's the mockup someone made to explain what they want to an artist.
>The art not scaling well to card size and the crop
The art piece - it's an actual painting - is about torso sized. There is detail, but your eye ignores it at card size, and your eye is drawn to the large flat colour sections.
>The overall "safeness" of regular Magic art being an established issue by the point this came out
If magic art was as varied today as it was in the earlier days of magic, a card like this would just be "one of the duds" rather than a stand-out dud. We no longer get abstract shit like cryptic command's glyph. Magic art belongs to a genre I like to call ArtStation Fantasy. It's mostly-realistic digital painting that can be replicated as a day job, reliable and safe. You can hire a dozen artists and 11 of them will do it to schedule and follow the brief, and one will flake because that's just the stats.
tl;dr it's not a great piece of art but it's made worse because it sticks out like a big red sore thumb and it went in the "rare treasures" slot. I will not retroactively defend it because things are worse now, but I will contextualise its sucking and the backlash.
>>95869381
>by a woman artist
not "of a woman"
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:26:36 PM No.95869617
>>95869607
forgot to say, also the eyes look off-center and that makes the whole thing goofy.
forgot to say, also the eyes look off-center and that makes the whole thing goofy.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:47:32 PM No.95869732
It would have been okay if it hadn't been her absolute worst piece
>>95868228
It's actual oil on canvas made to look like a digital edit
>>95868228
It's actual oil on canvas made to look like a digital edit
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:06:33 PM No.95869818
>>95868120 (OP)
looks like shit on the card.
it's surprisingly better when you see it's a full-scale painting on a big canvas, although her work is not my style.
and it's not really MTG's style either. there's a reason they stick to easily-readable digital crap.
looks like shit on the card.
it's surprisingly better when you see it's a full-scale painting on a big canvas, although her work is not my style.
and it's not really MTG's style either. there's a reason they stick to easily-readable digital crap.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:11:43 PM No.95869832
>>95869732
this looks better but I'm sure it would also look like shit if you cropped out half of it to put just the head on a red STX mystical archive frame
this looks better but I'm sure it would also look like shit if you cropped out half of it to put just the head on a red STX mystical archive frame
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:33:49 PM No.95869932
>>95868120 (OP)
Why do retards say chud? It's a pretty retarded word to call yourself.
Why do retards say chud? It's a pretty retarded word to call yourself.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:43:27 PM No.95869982
>>95868120 (OP)
People didn't like it because the person part is really photorealistic, so it look like a cut out photo, and flat mspaint edit on top.
So it look cheap
People didn't like it because the person part is really photorealistic, so it look like a cut out photo, and flat mspaint edit on top.
So it look cheap
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:59:15 PM No.95870050
>>95869818
>there's a reason they stick to easily-readable digital crap
honestly I preferred it when magic art didn't have that one coherent style. Especially since now, they DO have creative/weird card art but it's all artificially-priced secret lair shit.
>there's a reason they stick to easily-readable digital crap
honestly I preferred it when magic art didn't have that one coherent style. Especially since now, they DO have creative/weird card art but it's all artificially-priced secret lair shit.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:02:46 PM No.95871056
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:17:03 PM No.95876485
>>95868120 (OP)
A better question is why does all alternate art now look like globohomo shit? JotC really not beating the charges of being run by mossad and the CIA to advance DIE bullshit.
A better question is why does all alternate art now look like globohomo shit? JotC really not beating the charges of being run by mossad and the CIA to advance DIE bullshit.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:18:57 PM No.95876490
>>95868271
All autogynephiles seethe at lesbians. JotC will never admit it, but it was all the trannies employed by the company that cancelled Terese simply because they found out she was a lesbian. That's the real reason. That's why they kept screaming TERF at her, despite it being unrelated to anything.
All autogynephiles seethe at lesbians. JotC will never admit it, but it was all the trannies employed by the company that cancelled Terese simply because they found out she was a lesbian. That's the real reason. That's why they kept screaming TERF at her, despite it being unrelated to anything.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:29:51 PM No.95876523
>>95876485
What's funny is there are much better examples of Globohomo art but you actually picked one of the few new cards that are accurately within a very well established artstyle. It's one pioneered by Eyvind Earle and was the hallmark style of children's fairy tale content in the 50's to late 60's. It was part of an aesthetic called the Medival Revivalism, it's why hippies wore tunics and shit and why rock music was 8 minute long triangle and fife solos.
Now, the execution is somewhat wanting but like, it's very VERY clear what it's trying to be and you're really just kind of outing yourself as retarded.
What's funny is there are much better examples of Globohomo art but you actually picked one of the few new cards that are accurately within a very well established artstyle. It's one pioneered by Eyvind Earle and was the hallmark style of children's fairy tale content in the 50's to late 60's. It was part of an aesthetic called the Medival Revivalism, it's why hippies wore tunics and shit and why rock music was 8 minute long triangle and fife solos.
Now, the execution is somewhat wanting but like, it's very VERY clear what it's trying to be and you're really just kind of outing yourself as retarded.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:36:45 PM No.95876543
>>95868120 (OP)
Because it's not properly put into the frame, even if it was it wouldn't work very well on a playing card. This looks like dogshit. She's done much better later on.
Because it's not properly put into the frame, even if it was it wouldn't work very well on a playing card. This looks like dogshit. She's done much better later on.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:39:14 PM No.95876554
>>95876523
Wow you really showed me. I love ugly shit now. Please make all angels as black as coal from now on. Maybe you can dress the next batch up as clowns too!
Wow you really showed me. I love ugly shit now. Please make all angels as black as coal from now on. Maybe you can dress the next batch up as clowns too!
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:52:04 PM No.95876598
>>95876554
This is literally a card depicting a white character, no diversity, evoking an art style rooted in not only a post-war pre-diversity era BUT one that's literally a thousand years old in Europe no less.
What more do you want? Just early 90's nostalgia recycling? You realize that's just as pathetic as being mad not enough black people are in cards right? Poole is dead, Chippy makes real money now doing other shit, Neilsen is the only one that realistically c/should come back.
Yes, the art nowadays is undoubtedly bad - especially the UB shit which just looks like slap job Photoshop. The main series cards are just style-less depictive images of the prompt given to the artists by WotC, essentially manual photography in intent. It's terrible.
What rustles MY jimmies is you come out here bashing one of the few examples of cards actually meeting the criteria of
>Not DEI
>A call back to unrepresented art styles
>On a good reprint
Like Christ, the other options here are just Rick and Morty or Graffitti style and you're sitting here mad that an ON THEME FOR THE SET REPRINT exists. How about you go jack of to Folgio for a few hours.
This is literally a card depicting a white character, no diversity, evoking an art style rooted in not only a post-war pre-diversity era BUT one that's literally a thousand years old in Europe no less.
What more do you want? Just early 90's nostalgia recycling? You realize that's just as pathetic as being mad not enough black people are in cards right? Poole is dead, Chippy makes real money now doing other shit, Neilsen is the only one that realistically c/should come back.
Yes, the art nowadays is undoubtedly bad - especially the UB shit which just looks like slap job Photoshop. The main series cards are just style-less depictive images of the prompt given to the artists by WotC, essentially manual photography in intent. It's terrible.
What rustles MY jimmies is you come out here bashing one of the few examples of cards actually meeting the criteria of
>Not DEI
>A call back to unrepresented art styles
>On a good reprint
Like Christ, the other options here are just Rick and Morty or Graffitti style and you're sitting here mad that an ON THEME FOR THE SET REPRINT exists. How about you go jack of to Folgio for a few hours.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:55:23 PM No.95878731
>>95869732
>It's actual oil on canvas made to look like a digital edit
Big "I wrote this novel on my phone" energy.
>It's actual oil on canvas made to look like a digital edit
Big "I wrote this novel on my phone" energy.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:13:49 AM No.95879624
>>95876485
The wording on this card just feels off. Why isn't it
>Whenever an opponent draws a card, create a Treasure token unless that player pays {2}.
The wording on this card just feels off. Why isn't it
>Whenever an opponent draws a card, create a Treasure token unless that player pays {2}.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:14:50 AM No.95879633
>>95876598
>evoking an art style rooted in not only a post-war pre-diversity era BUT one that's literally a thousand years old in Europe no less.
IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT YOU PRETENTIOUS FUCK
>evoking an art style rooted in not only a post-war pre-diversity era BUT one that's literally a thousand years old in Europe no less.
IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT YOU PRETENTIOUS FUCK
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:32:45 AM No.95879734
>>95879633
>it looks bad
>why? it just does
>also cuz woke
wow anon you should become a based art critic
>it looks bad
>why? it just does
>also cuz woke
wow anon you should become a based art critic
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:18:32 AM No.95879939
>>95879624
JotC is inserting a lot of retarded wording into cards lately to make the game "easier" for retards to understand (or so they hope). This is red flag #3232910 that they're desperate to get SOMEONE to buy the fucking product and will do ANYTHING for that someone to not be the people that were buying it for 25 years. They also totally changed how combat worked recently and made it MUCH worse so now aggro players can win even faster and creatures have an even tougher time sticking to the board.
>Inb4 transbots from JotC start screaming "GOOD! I HATE CREATURES!! CREATURES SHOULDN'T EXIST IN THIS GAME!!!"
JotC is inserting a lot of retarded wording into cards lately to make the game "easier" for retards to understand (or so they hope). This is red flag #3232910 that they're desperate to get SOMEONE to buy the fucking product and will do ANYTHING for that someone to not be the people that were buying it for 25 years. They also totally changed how combat worked recently and made it MUCH worse so now aggro players can win even faster and creatures have an even tougher time sticking to the board.
>Inb4 transbots from JotC start screaming "GOOD! I HATE CREATURES!! CREATURES SHOULDN'T EXIST IN THIS GAME!!!"
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:19:33 AM No.95879950
>>95879734
It looks like shit. Being a tranny doesn't make you cultured. Well except you're neo-"""vagina""". That is PLENTY cultured, I'd imagine.
It looks like shit. Being a tranny doesn't make you cultured. Well except you're neo-"""vagina""". That is PLENTY cultured, I'd imagine.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:28:31 AM No.95879998
>>95879939
That card wording isn't recent though. The reason it's worded like that is that the original printing had an explanation of what a Treasure token does, which made more sense to put at the end instead of jamming it in the middle.
That card wording isn't recent though. The reason it's worded like that is that the original printing had an explanation of what a Treasure token does, which made more sense to put at the end instead of jamming it in the middle.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:34:28 AM No.95880336
>>95879998
Treasure tokens are recent, stupid.
Treasure tokens are recent, stupid.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:35:28 AM No.95880341
>>95879998
Also, that card is from like last year.
Also, that card is from like last year.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:10:31 PM No.95882322
>>95868120 (OP)
Why is ProJared doing this?
Why is ProJared doing this?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:39:17 AM No.95886730
>>95868120 (OP)
honestly, I only really hate the goofy-ass cartoon red eyes and the fact the tarot card it's referencing is Temperance instead of The Magician which would have helped sell the asymmetry, better referenced the actual mechanics of the card (that the gains from drawing are more valuable than the loss of discarding), and just been more on-color (Red and Temperance? are you fucking retarded?)
the only other card from her I dislike nearly as much is Social Climber because the composition is more "illustration for a ring artifact" than "illustration for a creature that gets you things from other creatures"
the Harmonize she drew is actually unironically really good though.
honestly, I only really hate the goofy-ass cartoon red eyes and the fact the tarot card it's referencing is Temperance instead of The Magician which would have helped sell the asymmetry, better referenced the actual mechanics of the card (that the gains from drawing are more valuable than the loss of discarding), and just been more on-color (Red and Temperance? are you fucking retarded?)
the only other card from her I dislike nearly as much is Social Climber because the composition is more "illustration for a ring artifact" than "illustration for a creature that gets you things from other creatures"
the Harmonize she drew is actually unironically really good though.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:10:33 AM No.95886895
>>95868120 (OP)
>Play this rhystic
>Swap decks
>Play another one with the same art
>Do it 4 times
>Random guy asks "Dude do you have all your rhystic with that art? It is way too expensive"
>I simply say "most of the other arts suck"
The seething in his eyes was amazing, he later went around saying that I was a chud that avoided playing cards with black women on them.
>Play this rhystic
>Swap decks
>Play another one with the same art
>Do it 4 times
>Random guy asks "Dude do you have all your rhystic with that art? It is way too expensive"
>I simply say "most of the other arts suck"
The seething in his eyes was amazing, he later went around saying that I was a chud that avoided playing cards with black women on them.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:42:39 AM No.95887035
>>95868236
Completely different doesn't automatically mean good. You can dislike two things for two different reasons.
Completely different doesn't automatically mean good. You can dislike two things for two different reasons.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:22:30 AM No.95887219
>>95876490
>All autogynephiles seethe at lesbians.
No they don't, autogynephiles ARE lesbians (or at least identify as them). Its one of my radar pings to detect them, an unhealthy fascination with all things sapphic. (including knowing what sapphic means)
>All autogynephiles seethe at lesbians.
No they don't, autogynephiles ARE lesbians (or at least identify as them). Its one of my radar pings to detect them, an unhealthy fascination with all things sapphic. (including knowing what sapphic means)
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:47:14 AM No.95887334
>>95868120 (OP)
I’d take ms paint over this shit any day.
I’d take ms paint over this shit any day.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:49:48 AM No.95887344
Genuinely just an iq test, if you're low iq the joke goes over your head.
Theres way way worse art that fails hard at unorthadox style
Theres way way worse art that fails hard at unorthadox style
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:39:22 AM No.95887534
>>95886895
I also pay extra to deblacken my cards
I also pay extra to deblacken my cards
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:12:32 AM No.95887904
>>95868120 (OP)
Because that looks ugly as shit and someone's etsy meme joke card. As I have no idea about the background of this card either. I stopped playing magic in 2018 and didn't return until late 2023 and missed alot of the drama.
Because that looks ugly as shit and someone's etsy meme joke card. As I have no idea about the background of this card either. I stopped playing magic in 2018 and didn't return until late 2023 and missed alot of the drama.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:17:28 AM No.95887928
>>95887534
Same. I'm so glad the weaver got a a FF reprint as cecil.
Same. I'm so glad the weaver got a a FF reprint as cecil.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:39:31 AM No.95888917
>>95887219
That's just it though. They know full well that nobody else accepts this insanity. And it makes them insane. Trannies are not lesbians and they never will be. Lesbians will never desire them. Even if they weren't all hideous.
That's just it though. They know full well that nobody else accepts this insanity. And it makes them insane. Trannies are not lesbians and they never will be. Lesbians will never desire them. Even if they weren't all hideous.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:40:43 AM No.95888922
>>95868236
No one ever complained that Magic art was too good. You live in a tranny echo chamber and that fucking echo chamber needs to be burned at the ground.
No one ever complained that Magic art was too good. You live in a tranny echo chamber and that fucking echo chamber needs to be burned at the ground.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:48:30 AM No.95888946
>>95887545
ok now I want to marry... her?
ok now I want to marry... her?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:30:20 PM No.95889115
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:23:59 PM No.95889521
>>95868120 (OP)
Honestly? I don’t think the reaction was THAT vitriolic at first. It was the slop slurpers and their toxic positivity that pushed the people who didn’t like it into outright hostility. Combine that with the artist’s gross personal politics and the fact the art doesn’t translate into being shrunk down to trading card size (making it look cheap); and you’ve got a recipe for a nasty controversy. Frankly I’m tired of hearing about it and I don’t respect anybody who talked shit about the card’s critics during the initial flare up.
Also OP, ‘cause he’s a huge fan of cock.
Honestly? I don’t think the reaction was THAT vitriolic at first. It was the slop slurpers and their toxic positivity that pushed the people who didn’t like it into outright hostility. Combine that with the artist’s gross personal politics and the fact the art doesn’t translate into being shrunk down to trading card size (making it look cheap); and you’ve got a recipe for a nasty controversy. Frankly I’m tired of hearing about it and I don’t respect anybody who talked shit about the card’s critics during the initial flare up.
Also OP, ‘cause he’s a huge fan of cock.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:26:18 PM No.95889532
Mod thread.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:29:36 PM No.95889545
>>95869732
>It's shit on purpose
Why do modern artists think making something aesthetically offensive is sone sort of accomplishment? If I wanted to see ugly things I'd just go into a Wal-Mart bathroom.
>It's shit on purpose
Why do modern artists think making something aesthetically offensive is sone sort of accomplishment? If I wanted to see ugly things I'd just go into a Wal-Mart bathroom.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:09:28 AM No.95895433
>>95889545
I don't think that artist is an example of it, but some do it to denigrate the medium as a whole. They will pass off objective garbage as "high art" and then funnel money into marketing to gaslight a bunch of idiots so the overtone windows shifts to
>garbage = good
>conventional artistic standards = bad
Mark Rothko is an example of an artist who did this. Can't cut it actually making art? Just spam 3 colors on a canvas and know people who work in the industry, boom done you're now a famous artist with less skill than a drunken college drop out who's bad at painting drywall in his moms basement.
I don't think that artist is an example of it, but some do it to denigrate the medium as a whole. They will pass off objective garbage as "high art" and then funnel money into marketing to gaslight a bunch of idiots so the overtone windows shifts to
>garbage = good
>conventional artistic standards = bad
Mark Rothko is an example of an artist who did this. Can't cut it actually making art? Just spam 3 colors on a canvas and know people who work in the industry, boom done you're now a famous artist with less skill than a drunken college drop out who's bad at painting drywall in his moms basement.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:13:44 PM No.95897646
>>95889545
Because you're an uncultured swine. You see Renaissance art and you see this as a peak. Nothing else is allowed. You're a dumb frogposter talking about aesthetically pleasing things.
Because you're an uncultured swine. You see Renaissance art and you see this as a peak. Nothing else is allowed. You're a dumb frogposter talking about aesthetically pleasing things.