Fixing the damn Stormtrooper armor.
Imagine if the Stormies were in the films as cool as this miniature.

PD: remember, Lucas said the armor look cheap due to low budget, his intention was always to fix it in his Sequel Trilogy. But Disney bought Star Wars and instead of fixing it, just make it more lame each new slop.

>>95876981 (OP)
Nice cheeks.

>>95877009
Squats for the Emperor.

>>95877009
>>95877033
https://youtu.be/uP0rFsylyM0?si=nmg4Fh7Wlc6lNl7y

>>95876981 (OP)
>Imagine if the Stormies were in the films as cool as this miniature.
Do you not know where the miniature's design came from?

>>95877262
Funnily enough, the version from the earlier tokusatsu film is pretty clearly inspired by the Stormtroopers with the weird frowny face gas mask.

>>95876981 (OP)
Imagine still caring about this IP to this level.
It was a mediocre film series originally, entirely powered by being a high budget sci-fi in an era when that didn't exist. Now it's just embarrassing to be into a several decade old millenial slop farm IP that shambles on purely because redditors cannot help but purchase product.

>>95877320
>til starwars inspired WW2

>>95876981 (OP)
The outline of the Stormtrooper outfit doesn't need any changing, they just need to depict all the stuff the text blurbs said it could do.
I find Jin-Cheeks too corny to take seriously.
>>95878187
The frowny face part is definitely Star Wars derived.

>>95879658
>Starwars invented frowns
lmao

>>95878151
>high budget sci-fi in an era when that didn't exist
Not many, but there were some, and Star Wars was beaten by a year
Logan's Run, 1976, $7.5 million
Star Wars, 1977, $11 million, average film budget at the time was $5 million
Close Encounters of the Third Kind, 1977, $31.5 million

>>95879940
>Star Wars, 1977, $11 million
Another source is putting it at $9 million including $1.5M overrun from $7.5M so not that much higher than Logan's Run

I don't think stormtrooper armor was supposed to be heavy powered armor or anything that crazy. They spend most of their time just grilling civilians or running checkpoints.
Everyone compares them to jin-roh but they're used in fairly short operations by specific forces. You're not supposed to just hang around all day in that stuff.
Besides, stormtroopers already look pretty neat. It's the rebels who need more work on their audience appeal.

>>95878187
>>95879658
The stormtrooper was inspired in the WW1 Sturmtruppen and the Samurai.

>The outline of the Stormtrooper outfit doesn't need any changing
The armor being made of plastic doesn't help the stormie looks.

>>95881429
>I don't think stormtrooper armor was supposed to be heavy powered armor or anything that crazy.
The stormtrooper in canon is the "elite shock trooper", but for some reason, Lucas first and then Disney refuse to portray them in that way in the films (despite they do the canon).

>>95882112
>The stormtrooper in canon is the "elite shock trooper", but for some reason, Lucas first and then Disney refuse to portray them in that way in the films (despite they do the canon).
is there any quasi-official/EU etc art of them that isn't revolting tie mauler-tier crap?

>>95882112
>Lucas first and then Disney refuse to portray them in that way in the films (despite they do the canon)
In what canon? They've been door-guarding dipshits from the very beginning. If Lucas made them like that in the first movies, that's what they are.
This isn't some EU shit that tries to retcon them as super elite asskickers, is it? Cause they've always been goons.

>>95882112
>The stormtrooper was inspired in the WW1 Sturmtruppen and the Samurai.
I think y'all are forgetting a big part of their design: their armor is white with big, black eyes and that grill frown to make them look like skeletons. To compliment Darth Vader's "grim reaper" look.
None of your "improved" stormtroopers are spooky enough.

>You can find generic sci-fi stormtroopers that are cooler and made by a random miniature maker
>tg still needs a brand to worship
cut out all corporations from your hobby

>>95883390
did you even read the thread?

>>95882222
>Ep IV
>Kenobi to Luke
>"stormtroopers are the elite of the Empire"

>Ep V
>snowtroopers smashing the terrorists

>comics and novels when the MCs aren't around with their plot armor

>>95882806
>black eyes
Now they're green.

Also, you can have a skeleton armor based in the sturmtruppen and the samurai.

>>95889790
Your counterpoint to them clearly not being hyper-elite super death squads is one line of dialogue and a pitched battle where they had ten times the resources of their enemies. The comics and novels are famously all shit and they suck in most of those too.
Like I'm sorry man the comics aren't higher canon than the movies lol

Have you not considered just getting into a different series where the evil soldiers are actually kind of cool? Why force your cool operator military fantasy into this binary good vs evil series where they're dictated to lose by the power of fate itself lol

>>95889940
>Like I'm sorry man the comics aren't higher canon than the movies lol
It's not a counterpoint, it's literally what Lucas invisioned but executed pretty bad. If you watch the extras of the OT, you can see George explaining the stormtrooper are the elite of the Empire and Vader's legion (501 st) the elite of the elite.

>Have you not considered just getting into a different series where the evil soldiers are actually kind of cool? Why force your cool operator military fantasy into this binary good vs evil series where they're dictated to lose by the power of fate itself lol
I get your point and I would like too.
To be honeszt, I'm mad with the wasted potential of Star Wars, imagine what it could be if it had proper directors and writers, you can see it with the level of badassery and epicness from KOTORs and Genndy Tartakovsky's CWs.
That's what Star Wars could be in each new project.

>>95882195
>revolting tie mauler-tier crap?
What does this even means?

>>95893524
I mean lazily recycling visual design from the films even when it doesn't make any sense, like the TIE Mauler (a tank) originally from, I think, one of the video games.

Anyway, I answered my own question, here's a still from Andor of some Imperial Army troops; I'd be happy fielding a platoon of these on the tabletop.

>>95894393
Oops, took a couple of goes to get it to load

>>95876981 (OP)
Why do you gargle cock? It makes god cry every time you do that.

>>95882112
>Lucas first and then Disney refuse to portray them in that way in the films
Stormtroopers won literally every engagement across the OT. They even were genociding the carebears until Chewie managed to hijack an AT-ST

>>95894393
>>95894453
If only Lucas and Disney had the balls to use a true Stahlhelm (like OPicrel) instead of that version.

>>95894393
Please don't bully the TIE Mauler. It's doing its best, even if it does kinda suck even in the game it's from.

>>95883390
Every single business is a corporation, and if they are conducting business without having incorporated, then they are operating illegally

>>95898835
Why can't Star Wars be not-retarded franchise where vehicles, armors, weapons and factions make sense?

>>95899126
I don't know. There must be a name for its style of visual design. It's hard to describe but it seems to have recognisable features.

>>95899146
But there are no proportions, symmetry nor armony in those ships. How can people find it appealing?

>>95899354
Star destroyers are oddly reasonable in their design, being a triangular wedge they can bring all their turreted firepower to bear against forward targets without giving up the ability to engage side targets like a fully spinal configured spacecraft

>>95882112
>The stormtrooper in canon is the "elite shock trooper", but for some reason, Lucas first and then Disney refuse to portray them in that way in the films (despite they do the canon).

So you're just going to ignore the fact that storm troopers are shown to be extremely effective against anyone without plot armour?

>>95899146

>>95899650
>star destroyers are resonable
Ok, mate.

>>95899676
>So you're just going to ignore the fact that storm troopers are shown to be extremely effective against anyone without plot armour?
YES, we're going to ignore because you know what? Star Wars is a character-driving franchise (at least in the films, most of its videogames and books) not a world-driving franchise (like in some of its videogames and books), that means MCs characters eat 95% of the films why the rest is just decoration.
Therefore if the stormies are only elite against the NPCs, nobody cares.

>>95899916
George Lucas was a retard >>95904436

>>95904462
Perhaps but he knew how to make spaceships that looked cool to many people.

>>95904436
Yeah imagine a large and wealthy empire with some of the best engineers having a large and mostly unarmored part of one of their capital ships thats integral to its function be sticking straight out of the rest of the ship like some sort of island or something absolute bafoonery i tell you

>>95894393
The TIE tank concept originally appeared in the Dark Horse comics made in early 1990s.

>>95904544
>this retard unironically compared a ship from a modern-tech terran country with a spaceship from a galactic civilization that's 25,000 years old
Wow, no wonder why scifi is sooo shit this days.

>>95904521
Most people are retards.

>>95905319
Nigger he got your wannabe tactical space combat genius dead to rights. Bridge sticks up so bridge can see the combat
>hurr why not in the middle surrounded by lots of armor plating
Because when your sensors go out, fighting by eye is still a valid tactic with an island bridge
Fucking dumbass

>>95899916
In some of the flight games this thing was lethal tho, almost making obsolete the Y-Wing barring a couple of features that could still be vital in a few scenarios

>>95905595
Yeah I remember it being good in the Empire at War RTS game as well, even if it was dumb as fuck.

>>95905319
>>95905381
On top of that
1) The bridge is where the shields originate from, it's still the safest part untill your own fighters have been overwhelmed
2) SW puts aesthetics and parallelism with WW2 above function, intentionally, since the first movie. Guess where the trench run in the DS comes from.

>>95905381
>words words words to defend some retarded ugly design

>>95879940
The main reason Star Wars was so popular was that the New Hollywood era was centered heavily on "depressing is realistic". It was the first non-kids movie in ages where the good guys won at the end.

>>95905699
>Star Wars was made by a retard for retards

>>95906416
Dafuq are you talking about?
70s were literally all the druggy hippie all-feels-good-era.
Idk what non-kids films of that decade did you watch, but they didn't represent the 70s ethos at all.

If stormtroopers are elite soldiers, what does a "run of the mill" imperial soldier look like? (And why aren't they guarding checkpoints instead of the valuable shock troops, especially on backwater ass middle of nowhere tatooine?)
Obviously the practical answer is that the films needed to establish Stormtroopers as "the bad guy army" and didn't want to dilute their presence with less iconic grunts - and I think this was the right decision given the amount of merch and shit their design sold. However, I'd be curious about canon examples of "shitty" empire soldiers to contrast.
Without knowing better I might assume that they just employ local auxiliary troops who mostly stay in their home systems for local defense and maintaining order, while stormtroopers act as the proper world-cruising army that actively pursues rebels. But that's just a spitball guess.

>>95912822
I think your take is lore-accurate. The problem is, Lucas first and then Disney, started to create a bunch of mediocre or even goofier armors for more "variants" just to sell more toys, to the point of ridiculousness.
When, prior to that, in canon made sense that a highly developed space civilization already had the best armor no matter the branch of the army.

>>95876981 (OP)
If you don't like star wars don't engage with star wars

>>95919189
I like the world-building of it, but the aesthetics are terrible despite all its potential.