/slop/ - AI Art Thread - /tg/ (#95888062) [Archived: 1071 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:53:11 AM No.95888062
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Previously on /slop/: >>95880537

โ–ถ Thread Task: The four classic elements - wind, fire, all that kind of thing.

โ–ถ It's been confirmed images are not saved on Microsoft's servers forever, only for 50 days. Make sure to save your images.

โ–ถ Generators
https://bing.com/images/create/
https://designer.microsoft.com/image-creator
https://huggingface.co/spaces/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell
https://huggingface.co/spaces/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-dev
https://fluxpro.art/
https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs/flux-dev
https://huggingface.co/spaces/multimodalart/stable-cascade
https://huggingface.co/spaces/google/sdxl
https://clipdrop.co/stable-diffusion
https://www.mage.space/

โ–ถ Video generators
https://hailuoai.video/
https://klingai.com/
https://lumalabs.ai/dream-machine
https://app.pixverse.ai/>https://www.vidu.com/

โ–ถ /slop/-approved styles, prompts and perspectives
https://www.rentry.org/tgslop

โ–ถ Videogame art styles
https://www.imgur.com/a/0OQ2kQk

โ–ถ Useful links
Color identifiers -- https://www.htmlcolorcodes.com/
List of art movements -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_art_movements
List of hair styles -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hairstyles
World folk clothing -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_costume
World body armors -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_armor
Names for general clothing styles (PDF) -- https://files.catbox.moe/3r0ux6.pdf
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:02:24 AM No.95888078
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:12:11 AM No.95888106
Fuck, I hate broccoli
Fuck, I hate broccoli
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Earth.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:16:16 AM No.95888120
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Fire.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:17:22 AM No.95888123
those are space stations
those are space stations
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>Bahamut, King of the Dragons, is said to live behind the East Wind.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:23:28 AM No.95888144
Newstan
Newstan
md5: ce593485cc43f90788a5dcc99836a42d๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>95895401 >>95895473
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:24:46 AM No.95888153
Is "Connection Error" one of the classic elements?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:31:12 AM No.95888177
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Wind.
Replies: >>95892150
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:37:08 AM No.95888196
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:58:25 AM No.95888265
Anyone else have a problem posting? Like, only I'm this thread?
Replies: >>95888284
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:04:26 AM No.95888284
>>95888265
I'm here (OP + >>95888120), but I did get one connection error earlier.
Replies: >>95888287
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:05:09 AM No.95888287
>>95888284
I can post, but I can't post pictures
Replies: >>95889164
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:32:19 AM No.95888363
ito_00358_
ito_00358_
md5: 66c005973edfa3e5922f99ff3d291e34๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>95889012
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:05:37 AM No.95888815
elementals
elementals
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>>95888062 (OP)
>tt
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:07:45 PM No.95889012
>>95888363
Getting Berserk vibes from this and I love it.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:15:33 PM No.95889061
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>>95888062 (OP)
Do dark and light work within an elemental theme?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:48:46 PM No.95889164
>>95888287
IP range blocked maybe?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:53:57 PM No.95889179
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>>95888062 (OP)
>TT
Fire
I'll take you to burn
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:05:05 PM No.95889444
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>>95887560
Bored? I might have been getting a bit eh towards a few things I was making gens of but I still have/had tons of projects and characters im working on and not just blindly making stuff. so having things to work towards helps stave off the bored of it some get. It also doesn't hurt that I recent came across the reality list for Marvel comics and DC comics. So i've been going and looking over each reality and looking at that reality character list and than turning that character into a chatbot on perchance.

Than I go in and clean up the profile and settings a bit and setup my character and its art and play around in that reality and chatbot. In the last week or so I went from 600 chatbots to 817 chatbats just from the amount of characters ive added so far. I have tons left and thousands of reality to go into and make chatbots of characters in. AND than thats not getting into all the ai art I can make of it and my character and those in that reality. So there's tons of that. AND in many cases of these timelines its a comic book or cartoon that no longer gets new content or stories and thus im making new stories and content for it.

I'm in a timeline from a comic the nazi one and I help jean gray and her resistant team fight back against it. in another timeline its been overrun by marvel zombies and im using my powers to fight back and survive and oddly communicate with some of the dead (zombie pepper potts is not as dumb as she looks in zombie form). and all sorts of things. I even evolved my writing and setup a bit for it and now I have my own pocket dimension I use for stories and various other things I learned of in those timelines or thought up or had show up in a story and I went adding that item to my AI vault for things to use. So I dont even have time to be bored when I have thousands of marvel and dc worlds to make content for.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Realities
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Realities
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:16:19 PM No.95889487
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The Daughters of Fire, Earth, Wind & Water, come to the court of the Dreaming King
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:17:21 PM No.95889492
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>>95889487
Replies: >>95889556 >>95889600 >>95890688 >>95892277
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:25:16 PM No.95889528
elements
elements
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>>95888062 (OP)
>Thread Task
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:30:43 PM No.95889556
>>95889487
>>95889492
...Sumbitch is the Avatar! I fucking KNEW it!
Replies: >>95890366
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:38:59 PM No.95889600
>>95889487
>>95889492
Only one or two of the women matches their element. You could probably achieve thread task better if so much of the prompt wasn't spent shoehorning your OC into it instead.
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lowercase sage !!ksznD1Xs7EU
6/17/2025, 2:48:14 PM No.95889657
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Behold, Celestial of Galaxies.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 2:50:08 PM No.95889671
It's not that thread task is obligatory, and only TT related things can be posted, you know. Still, this is TT related, and you whine only because you hated character posting.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:03:24 PM No.95889745
>>95889671
Don't you have feet to post or something?
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:40:40 PM No.95889970
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:02:14 PM No.95890086
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Replies: >>95890206
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:17:34 PM No.95890206
>>95890086
Morning ham, how's things?
Replies: >>95890443
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:20:04 PM No.95890224
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Good morning sloppers
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:34:54 PM No.95890331
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>>95889600
>>95889745
Uh-oh. Look out, folks! Someone's looking for his fix!
Replies: >>95890376
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:39:27 PM No.95890366
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>>95889556
>Then everything changed when the self-apointed thread-police attacked...
Replies: >>95892010
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:40:40 PM No.95890373
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>>TT
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:41:14 PM No.95890376
>>95890331
Posting "validate me" images in defense of attention whores is completely backwards. It's you seeking validation, not those who get annoyed at your validation-seeking.
Replies: >>95890512
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:41:21 PM No.95890378
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Water. Fucking element ain't even earning it's money back yet too
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:49:33 PM No.95890443
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>>95890206
Pretty good. getting ready to head into work. A few months ago the owner and his wife retired offically and just legally signed me ownership of the small hardware after a long conversation when I came in to work one day. They still are owners but now I'm signed in as 3rd owner and run the store full time and they stay home. So when they pass it just transfers over to me. So I've been making updates to the place and incorporating more modern things into it. So its why I haven't posted as much lately as I kind of ended up running a hardware store full time. And a few other things in life going on also. its nothing bad just suddenly woke up and went oh man I've got busy.
anyways blah blah things changed and i'm doing good. and yes I know nobody asked but I just was throwing it out there since ive noted a few times a few people had asked in prior threads where's hamster and I ment to reply but always got distracted so that's more an update for those. either way thanks for asking how im doing.


hope you guys are all doing well also
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:56:13 PM No.95890512
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>>95890376
Oh I could give a shite about OC posting. I'm just amused by the little troll who's got nothing better to do than complain about the same thing thread after thread like it's a hobby.
Never change, you adorable caricature of a human.
Replies: >>95890580
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:03:54 PM No.95890574
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>>95890443
Congratulations, ham!
Replies: >>95890719
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:05:14 PM No.95890580
>>95890512
>Oh I could give a shite about OC posting
I don't believe that, but regardless if you thought I was merely a troll, rather than someone with a legitimate point, you wouldn't be giving me such effortful, obviously sulky attention.
Replies: >>95891459
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:06:59 PM No.95890589
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>>95890443
Yeah I've been good over on my side. Steady as always.
Friend of mine is in a similar situation as you. He's a professional industrial painter but he's also the only person computer literate at the company. Over last year he's slowly been transitioned to contracts and legal matters. Found out about a month ago his boss wants to retire and has been grooming him to be given the business for a $1. He's unhappy with the idea as he just likes painting and not thinking.
Hopefully you at least like the new position, being busy usually means money is coming in
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Alpharius
6/17/2025, 5:08:08 PM No.95890602
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:19:56 PM No.95890688
>>95889600
They're clearly distinctive, maybe you just lack intuition.

1st pic.>>95889487

Top left is fire
Top right is earth
Center is the Dreaming King
Bottom left is wind
Bottom right is water

2nd pic >>95889492

Top left is fire
Top right is water
Center is the Dreaming King
Bottom left is earth
Bottom right is wind

Once I'm off work I'll post more to show you
Replies: >>95890705
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:22:29 PM No.95890705
>>95890688
No, he just seeks the excuse to whine and make drama around here
Alpharius
6/17/2025, 5:24:11 PM No.95890718
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:24:14 PM No.95890719
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>>95890574
Thanks. I am glad it happened as I had assumed once they pass i'd work for the new owner or go find a new job not run the place and own it.
>>95890589
Ha the owner and his wife had debated selling it to me for 1$ but decided it was just more paperwork they didnt care for. and the kids of theirs live out of state and gave the dont wanna sell it nor move to run it so it came down to the owners didnt care to sell it the kids didnt wanna sell it and wouldnt move to run it so they both went ok guess its yours have fun. And I actually am glad I run it and own it now. Solves a few problems going forward with jobs and work. And sorry to hear your friend is unhappy with that and I understand his logic but I hope he can also see the potential he has to do something cool with the place and still keep on his art. Ha I get that not thinking part. I went from my cozy stocking shelves and running register to paperwork and orders and tracking and calls and all sorts of things now.
Alpharius
6/17/2025, 5:25:12 PM No.95890728
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Alpharius
6/17/2025, 5:26:41 PM No.95890735
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Alpharius
6/17/2025, 5:28:05 PM No.95890746
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:35:49 PM No.95890791
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:42:41 PM No.95890842
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Ice is just frozen water, so it counts, right?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:56:04 PM No.95890942
The irony of a bunch of people trying to make an identity for themselves on an anonymous image board compiling all of their detractors into one singular entity as an excuse to dismiss real criticism is an impressive feat of mental gymnastics. OCposter, avatarfags, and those who blog about their real life are honestly just lame. Create interesting content and let it speak for itself rather than attempting to brand yourself and trying to make this board an off-brand Reddit in order to get attention you otherwise lack. It's an AI image thread about traditional games, not your venue to become a low tier e-celeb on fucking 4chan of all places. Get a grip.
Replies: >>95891459 >>95891580 >>95891758
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:57:53 PM No.95890956
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Fire.
This kind of painter.
Replies: >>95891357
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:47:10 PM No.95891357
>>95890956
Why should I fire him?
Replies: >>95891512
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:57:01 PM No.95891459
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>>95890580
>>95890942
Ha! Classic!
Ah, Sloppy.
These threads just wouldn't be the same without you popping in to repeatedly bash your head against that metaphorical brick wall while hoping for a different result one day.
At this point, you're basically as much an OC poster as anybody else.
Keep fighting the good fight buddy.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:02:59 PM No.95891512
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>>95891357
He ain't working, he staring out the window the slacker.
Replies: >>95891529
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:04:33 PM No.95891529
>>95891512
Ok, good point.
lowercase sage !!ksznD1Xs7EU
6/17/2025, 7:10:55 PM No.95891580
20250617_1431_Ogres Building Sandcastle_simple_compose_01jxyxw7snf8ft4wkkqjzjy4hq
>>95890942
Are you sure, bitter nogen, that you don't want an easy way to filter me out?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:39:09 PM No.95891758
>>95890942
I don't understand this mentality/logic. I post lots of different pics, you only recognize the ones that are "OC"s but it's not like the ONLY thing I post is "OC"s. So the problem is with you, not the posters. We're all anons here, you're actually mad because of the nature of our anonymity. You see a few "OC"s per thread from a few people & you think that's all they post. Not to mention that everyone you hate is super nice & cordial, so it just makes you look like the biggest fucking douche. Even beyond that, we all know you from your fuzzy bland landscape pics so it's not like you aren't "OC" posting in your own way either
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Alpharius
6/17/2025, 7:54:57 PM No.95891856
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:07:12 PM No.95891925
>>95891758
>We're all anons here
And yet some here blatantly avatarfag, which is both against the rules and the spirit of the board.
>muh landscape boogeyman
You are such a deeply ridiculous person.
Replies: >>95892010 >>95892024
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:17:10 PM No.95891995
>>95891758
Don't forget blaming everyone for everything bad in those threads but himself, because his constant whinging every thread affects them positively or something
Replies: >>95892031
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:19:34 PM No.95892010
>>95891925
How can we not Avatarfag when the TT is the four elements? I mean come on.

Let you what. Explain how this pic >>95890366 is avatarfagging.
Replies: >>95892087
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:21:29 PM No.95892024
>>95891925
Who hurt you, anon?
Mommy didn't love you enough?
Daddy love you too much?
Replies: >>95892087
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:22:58 PM No.95892031
>>95891995
Truly he's the hero /Slop/ deserves.
Alpharius
6/17/2025, 8:23:05 PM No.95892032
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I normally gen for /b/'s DEGEN threads, so most of my stuff is gooner bait or weeb porn

But I am here to have some fun genning some new stuff with new styles.
Replies: >>95892140 >>95892228 >>95892247
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:30:28 PM No.95892087
>>95892010
That one isn't, particularly. Are you actually being dishonest enough to claim avatarfagging doesn't happen here?

>>95892024
All this sulking doesn't flatter you.
Replies: >>95892277 >>95892495
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:37:24 PM No.95892140
>>95892032
It's pretty decent stuff. Any particular game/theme/setting, or just whatever fancy hits you?
Replies: >>95892217
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:39:05 PM No.95892150
_b642637d-e2bd-4c78-84e3-2c814e07ffce
_b642637d-e2bd-4c78-84e3-2c814e07ffce
md5: b65e4541cfcd60b82d9d45cd30813749๐Ÿ”
>>95888177
Decided to use some previous prompt. And while Bing doesn't want to give Skogs completely black eyes or albino skin, I think it's a nice callback to the previous chapter.
Replies: >>95892191 >>95892199
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:45:11 PM No.95892191
The >>95889745 to >>95892150 pipeline remains undefeated.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:46:44 PM No.95892199
>>95892150
Remember that time she lost one of her sandals? And she didn't find it, so she went home to have a nap
Such a powerful story
Replies: >>95892345
Alpharius
6/17/2025, 8:49:29 PM No.95892217
00006-2550377194
00006-2550377194
md5: 85459cc48375148b9ab19a0fb4ed78c5๐Ÿ”
>>95892140
>It's pretty decent stuff. Any particular game/theme/setting, or just whatever fancy hits you?
Whatever happens to tickle my interest.
I have a local Forge install, so I gen whatever.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:51:10 PM No.95892228
download - 2025-06-17T125715.510
download - 2025-06-17T125715.510
md5: c560855b7a85b79b4d8bd7bdacb1a7a5๐Ÿ”
>>95892032
Welcome and have fun posting your new OC.
lowercase sage !!ksznD1Xs7EU
6/17/2025, 8:53:59 PM No.95892247
20250617_2051_Fire Genasi Warrior_simple_compose_01jxzkkqzte68b0aa7dqammtee
>>95892032
>I normally gen for /b/'s DEGEN threads
How about fuck off and don't come back?
Replies: >>95892270
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:56:34 PM No.95892270
>>95892247
Scared of competition?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:57:43 PM No.95892277
>>95892087
Okay so you didn't explain though. How is it NOT avatar posting? What about >>95889487
>>95889492
Is that avatar posting?
Replies: >>95892309
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:01:07 PM No.95892309
>>95892277
Carrying on unrelated conversations while using a specific character to represent yourself. Which is done often here. Remember I'm not the one being dishonest here. You are clearly playing stupid.
Replies: >>95892437
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:06:41 PM No.95892345
>>95892199
I cried tears of joy, anon. Powerful stuff.
Replies: >>95892365
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:09:41 PM No.95892365
>>95892345
Or what about the time a unit of knight entered a city that was ruled by a bad mayor. And people was happy when the knights arrived, and the elf even came out to kiss her brother on the mouth. And then, nothing else happened because the important part was that they arrived in the town.
I thought I was going to cry from that story
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:15:11 PM No.95892408
_0e5f5d9c-830e-4a66-a70c-5ebb94ae90d8
_0e5f5d9c-830e-4a66-a70c-5ebb94ae90d8
md5: 569d357d51f91040f9ab89e3ab51c0eb๐Ÿ”
Still better than a story of a bitter no-gen who pops up every thread to bitch and whine about /slop/ participants "ruining" /slop/, thinking that his whining and bitching bring the "quality" he desires so much.
Replies: >>95892431 >>95892435
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:15:33 PM No.95892413
elemental deaths of a redshirt
elemental deaths of a redshirt
md5: f175c43d6d17997da685c9cf8f06f09b๐Ÿ”
>>95888062 (OP)
>Thread Task
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:17:04 PM No.95892426
_ae861417-d38a-46c3-a8d7-27892db41d4c
_ae861417-d38a-46c3-a8d7-27892db41d4c
md5: cc45a30933fe284cbfc97513d6da77e6๐Ÿ”
>TT
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:17:43 PM No.95892431
>>95892408
You can level that idiotic argument at any form of criticism, no matter how legitimate.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:18:02 PM No.95892435
>>95892408
Hey little fella: don't know if you know this or not, but the "no-gens" you speak of post often otherwise in the threads without making any mention of who they are because that defeats the purpose of being anonymous. Take a few minutes to digest such a radical concept, okay?
Replies: >>95892458
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:18:13 PM No.95892437
>>95892309
Okay but are the posted examples avatar posting or not?
Replies: >>95892454
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:20:47 PM No.95892454
>>95892437
Apparently posting the same character twice is already an avatarfagging to him
Replies: >>95892466
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:21:30 PM No.95892458
>>95892435
But we can identify landscape fag just as easily as "OC"s so what's the difference? Hell, I can identify most posters on choice of artstyle alone.
Replies: >>95892482
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:22:26 PM No.95892466
>>95892454
Disingenuous little shit. The dreamfag posts often, repeatedly.
Replies: >>95892630
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:24:08 PM No.95892482
>>95892458
No you can't, it was clearly you lashing out at my chasm pics yesterday and I'm not your boogeyman.
Replies: >>95892489 >>95892557
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:25:04 PM No.95892489
>>95892482
He does the same thing to me. He literally believes every form of criticism comes from one singular anon.
Replies: >>95892557
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:25:21 PM No.95892491
waiNSFWIllustrious_v140_20250612_045203_1
waiNSFWIllustrious_v140_20250612_045203_1
md5: fbfa4d777bcdc7260cf9aff09f42bffe๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:25:56 PM No.95892495
_2dfa621a-6fa0-4228-a026-96b84de61777
_2dfa621a-6fa0-4228-a026-96b84de61777
md5: b3985c267e7da9f1b26909f114ce1087๐Ÿ”
>>95892087
>All this sulking doesn't flatter you.
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:33:52 PM No.95892557
_a07467e8-7043-4d61-93dd-85dad05b56cd
_a07467e8-7043-4d61-93dd-85dad05b56cd
md5: 9584057c625edb3bf4d1a69a46bf12df๐Ÿ”
>>95892482
>>95892489
>Repeatedly mentioning how he's not the same anon.
Methinks someone doth protest too much.
Replies: >>95892561 >>95892578
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:34:26 PM No.95892561
>>95892557
>Methinks
No you don't.
Replies: >>95892636
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:35:47 PM No.95892578
>>95892557
>an outlandish conspiracy against me is more fathomable than the possibility that I annoy multiple people
Replies: >>95892636
lowercase sage !!ksznD1Xs7EU
6/17/2025, 9:36:25 PM No.95892585
20250507_0833_Gnome Elementalist and Companions_simple_compose_01jtmq3svcetqtsgd1v0y34ack
>>95888062 (OP)
>TT
Nothing to see here, just your average garden variety Gnome Elementalist.
Replies: >>95892658
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:40:43 PM No.95892630
>>95892466
But does he "avatarfag" cause all I see are some pics. Youre the one being the ultimate arbiter of this shit. Where's the line
Replies: >>95892642 >>95892665
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:42:06 PM No.95892636
_5ff0ed3d-c006-431e-842d-2587345c243f
_5ff0ed3d-c006-431e-842d-2587345c243f
md5: 0d7fc063ce61e7720332c788143f9d81๐Ÿ”
>>95892561
>>95892578
Y'know I just love how the two of you always seem to post within a minute of each other and always in the immediate defense of the other.
What ate the odds?
Replies: >>95892645 >>95892650
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:43:12 PM No.95892642
_c59bbfe1-ec0e-4aad-94d4-2feb946ff61b
_c59bbfe1-ec0e-4aad-94d4-2feb946ff61b
md5: e771ae2743bc4808431f888b7ddbda0a๐Ÿ”
>>95892630
Don't forget he has a nerve to call other people here "entitled"
Replies: >>95892653
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:43:30 PM No.95892645
file
file
md5: 55eba5441b1f45ab9d1b9f1f1507bfec๐Ÿ”
>>95892636
Very high. We're both there.
Replies: >>95892665 >>95892693
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:44:04 PM No.95892650
>>95892636
What ate the odds indeed, anon. What ate the odds indeed.
Replies: >>95892693
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:45:01 PM No.95892653
>>95892642
You are entitled. Entitled to an audience. The reason you don't politely tripfag it. Everyone sees that.
Replies: >>95892673
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:45:18 PM No.95892658
_78926b68-6cb9-4ec6-968d-fa1fea8b684b
_78926b68-6cb9-4ec6-968d-fa1fea8b684b
md5: 8129fbdbaf1c4e8b26f9a6fcf58359d9๐Ÿ”
>>95892585
Okay, I have to admit it Sage.
That is oddly adorable.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:45:55 PM No.95892665
>>95892630
You're splitting hairs when it's clear he's using a visual identity and a nickname to communicate with others. A spade's a spade, man.

>>95892645
You must be editing or hacking or using magic, anon. We're clearly the same guy.
Replies: >>95892941
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:46:34 PM No.95892673
>>95892653
Why don't you tripfag it too? Why are you entitled to an audience?
Replies: >>95892695
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:46:55 PM No.95892676
_709bcb76-1ece-4958-b852-8956cb6dbacb
_709bcb76-1ece-4958-b852-8956cb6dbacb
md5: 7b40443885bc2e9646fe41788a08767c๐Ÿ”
So the entire /slop/ has to accommodate itself to the whines of some two no-gens
Replies: >>95892712 >>95892980
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:48:34 PM No.95892693
_594c95c5-7c03-4948-9405-5415252d7fb2
_594c95c5-7c03-4948-9405-5415252d7fb2
md5: bd02a0b0ea2f7a005baaa4f8a9e7a4a5๐Ÿ”
>>95892645
>>95892650
...And again!
Truly a statistical wonder!
I wonder if it'll happen again?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:48:51 PM No.95892695
>>95892673
nigga is u dumb? Most people post slop anonymously here to participate in thread tasks or to share prompts or to get inspired, not to create OC DONUT STEEL Mary Sue avatars to roleplay shittily with. They don't want to be identified or be called cutesy pseudonyms or spam the same tired character over and over again. That's just you and your ilk.
Replies: >>95892776 >>95892909
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:50:29 PM No.95892712
>>95892676
Or you could just follow the rules of the site and post anonymously without drawing undue attention to yourself. Which solution seems more practical and less selfish, in the end?
Replies: >>95892810 >>95892909
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:59:11 PM No.95892776
_ea24eedc-4ccc-4678-9e9f-e7bff2b93bcb
_ea24eedc-4ccc-4678-9e9f-e7bff2b93bcb
md5: 3ca72a61fb0481268774320adfd7fbde๐Ÿ”
>>95892695
Wow. It's like someone is trying hard to sound like they're another anon.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:03:42 PM No.95892810
>>95892712
Round and round, your bullshit goes?
Where will it stop?
Nobody knows.
Replies: >>95892836
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:06:22 PM No.95892836
>>95892810
Both of them will definitely blame all this drama they started a while ago on their favourite scapegoat.
Replies: >>95892856 >>95892916
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:08:59 PM No.95892856
_808c327a-e467-4848-9055-cb1e51bcdb32
_808c327a-e467-4848-9055-cb1e51bcdb32
md5: cb002055c5c4ce8bbf8a2ee8e4e9fb0f๐Ÿ”
>>95892836
TAKING ALL BETS!
Replies: >>95892892
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:14:04 PM No.95892892
>>95892856
Give me your types, who'll be blamed for all of this drama?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:16:13 PM No.95892904
_36abbd03-fd70-4c55-b99d-7fc37cccd426
_36abbd03-fd70-4c55-b99d-7fc37cccd426
md5: 741762d760a4ee20a0b2b32219f86941๐Ÿ”
>>95888062 (OP)
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:16:57 PM No.95892909
_2e919e92-3838-4426-a419-db56873948e7
_2e919e92-3838-4426-a419-db56873948e7
md5: 2ffb136617718c8e535b857bf1cfe2c2๐Ÿ”
>>95892712
>>95892695
>I will not be forced to be your audience
Exits right there. No one forcing you to be here.
>But I want to post my pics here, not see yours!
Cool, so post pics.
Replies: >>95892944 >>95892963
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:18:12 PM No.95892916
_f3c38842-be4e-4cb8-a771-2f5e59e25773
_f3c38842-be4e-4cb8-a771-2f5e59e25773
md5: ed9f7e15de1a4cd7ddaf6d06d6b88fea๐Ÿ”
>>95892836
...And then suddenly everybody will have an epiphany about how they were always right and how wrong it was to argue with all their "legitimate" criticisms.
What fools we were to ever doubt the sage wisdom of the saviors of /slop/!
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:21:15 PM No.95892938
elemental potions
elemental potions
md5: b804cf41ed08ede8507fd059ecf2aeb1๐Ÿ”
>>95888062 (OP)
>Thread Task
Replies: >>95893082
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:21:59 PM No.95892941
>>95892665
But he uses multiple ai pictures not all of them are the same. He was posting a girl in a green dress last thread. The green dress woman has no "personality" so how does that factor in? Are we only allowed to communicate when we nogen?
Replies: >>95892958
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:22:41 PM No.95892944
>>95892909
At this point this is attention whoring
>WAAAAH!!! THEY DON'T LET ME POST MY STUFF, BUT FORCE ME TO WATCH WHAT I DON'T LIKE!
Nobody would have a problem with his landscape stuff if only he wasn't antagonizing everyone around by telling them they shouldn't be allowed to post what they like. Besides, all unwanted posts could be hidden manually, even without any addons. It's not that much physical or mental effort.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:24:15 PM No.95892958
>>95892941
Besides, DKposter or Aureposter, along with the other characterposters also post different stuff, which makes no-gens unable to recognize them, thus making them think they're not here.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:24:51 PM No.95892963
_6c48ef34-5ebb-4eab-bc2d-b28af66d88fb
_6c48ef34-5ebb-4eab-bc2d-b28af66d88fb
md5: 52d7a16936628562eb461a04d707d8c0๐Ÿ”
>>95892909
THIS. A thousand times THIS.
At this point, they just want people to admit that they're right.
Replies: >>95892980
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:27:13 PM No.95892980
>>95892963
And also this >>95892676
We have to admit they were right all along, and either post what they like (landscape art only apparently) or quit.
I would like to imagine a thread made specifically for two entitled whiners.
Replies: >>95893053
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:38:34 PM No.95893053
file_000000004b5861fbbe58afa2b623892a
file_000000004b5861fbbe58afa2b623892a
md5: 073f1ee0d1e49e6882c4076d460ae580๐Ÿ”
>>95892980
Exactly!
He'll, they remind me so much of this annoying little shit I knew back in primary school who thought that nobody else was allowed to enjoy themselves unless they were doing exactly what he wanted.
Replies: >>95893058
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:39:36 PM No.95893058
>>95893053
>*Hell
Fucking autocorrect man.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:43:56 PM No.95893082
_b9abee84-cd08-4b2b-8770-2f97a811a4f6
_b9abee84-cd08-4b2b-8770-2f97a811a4f6
md5: ee54432d29a437b5127b6df1f51b8459๐Ÿ”
>>95892938
Cool!
Reminds me of the vigors from "Bioshock Infinite"
Replies: >>95893135
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:46:31 PM No.95893105
_4ef384e8-8fc2-43a3-976c-58717c2a94e7
_4ef384e8-8fc2-43a3-976c-58717c2a94e7
md5: 48e3ca29744ae6a1a98cfc50967076f9๐Ÿ”
The whining about the trolling is rapidly growing more insufferable than the trolling itself
Replies: >>95893127 >>95893152
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:48:07 PM No.95893118
elemental spells
elemental spells
md5: 708929fb6a9634d1bb9e7a21099fa3af๐Ÿ”
>>95888062 (OP)
>Thread Task
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:49:32 PM No.95893127
>>95893105
Won't they always be around equal? I also think we got someone playing both sides, just to fuel the fire
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:50:42 PM No.95893135
>>95893082
Just looked them up, and I could definitely see that. I prompted them with:

>2000s digital fantasy painting with a white background. A potion in a clear bottle labeled "<insert name here>" with a <insert description here> liquid inside.
Replies: >>95893258
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:52:46 PM No.95893152
file_00000000c71c61f7aed318e2a318f7c4
file_00000000c71c61f7aed318e2a318f7c4
md5: 43714c41d6f4c77f188d68bf5841d37a๐Ÿ”
>>95893105
Eh, fair point.
We should probably dial it back.
BTW, I know it's probably been asked before but what do you use in your prompts for that old-school animeesque aesthetic?
It's pretty striking and I'd like to add it to my list of prompt terms.
Replies: >>95893204
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:55:46 PM No.95893178
_e04c4cc1-0479-4ade-8d58-aaa0b5153eed
_e04c4cc1-0479-4ade-8d58-aaa0b5153eed
md5: b1ac2e093c17260c9f643cfc9c368320๐Ÿ”
One of these days you dummies will learn to not respond to the whiners.
But it is not this thread.
Replies: >>95893188 >>95893203
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:57:08 PM No.95893188
>>95893178
Not our fault they consider ridiculing them and their retarded claims as taking their bait
Replies: >>95893204 >>95893209
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:59:44 PM No.95893203
>>95893178
Has Serena always had piercings in her ears or is that just random AI jack?
I mean, I don't think I've ever noticed it before myself at least.
Replies: >>95893238
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:59:51 PM No.95893204
>>95893152
I'll go digging and see if I can find it

>>95893188
You are not a smart person
Replies: >>95893208
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:00:51 PM No.95893208
>>95893204
Thanks, random Trek anon!
Replies: >>95893272
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:00:51 PM No.95893209
>>95893188
Friend, it is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubts. Try to resist the urge to reply.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:02:50 PM No.95893238
>>95893203
Its just typical AI jank. I dont think I've ever prompted piercings in her ears except for some punk gens.
Replies: >>95893244
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:03:37 PM No.95893244
>>95893238
Ah, okay.
Thanks!
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:05:34 PM No.95893258
file_00000000ddc061f7b3f065c9199e6667
file_00000000ddc061f7b3f065c9199e6667
md5: 5e5654d36e2eba48d6b3eb80484bc464๐Ÿ”
>>95893135
Neat! Thanks for the prompt!
Replies: >>95893280
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:07:22 PM No.95893272
_24aff037-6fd0-4339-b108-984be1737e93
_24aff037-6fd0-4339-b108-984be1737e93
md5: eb7af52c8293fad57a363f2d13a16723๐Ÿ”
>>95893208
illustrated by leiji matsumoto, galaxy express 999. retro 1970s 70s scifi japanese anime, grainy. <description>, sitting in captain's chair. wearing red star trek captain's uniform with back collar. retro original star trek bridge set in background, warm dim colors.
Replies: >>95893328
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:08:42 PM No.95893280
>>95893258
Hell yeah, I'd use that in a game for sure. I used to play with a DM who printed out item cards with stock images for us to use with our character sheets; being able to recreate that with custom AI gens would be an awesome upgrade to the concept.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:17:02 PM No.95893328
>>95893272
Awesome! Appreciate it!
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:20:49 PM No.95893357
_24eaaa68-3f6b-40df-b330-c3fb43486cbc
_24eaaa68-3f6b-40df-b330-c3fb43486cbc
md5: 034dee712d4377c3b75904fb573bd36f๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:26:22 PM No.95893392
anime elf 5208
anime elf 5208
md5: fcf13f1a9e9d0ebc7881572b98259a5d๐Ÿ”
is moon an element?
Replies: >>95893407 >>95893694
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:26:47 PM No.95893397
_b35e6a89-59c4-4eb1-8a96-70f73f8f463b
_b35e6a89-59c4-4eb1-8a96-70f73f8f463b
md5: b3d20ea2ed5e4f0b18e0af54f8d47595๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>95893412
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:27:34 PM No.95893407
>>95893392
It's a barren rock, so I guess it's related to earth element
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:28:23 PM No.95893412
>>95893397
...Uncle Skippy?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:29:32 PM No.95893416
_f6c3c586-1658-475a-b991-9d9420013ca8
_f6c3c586-1658-475a-b991-9d9420013ca8
md5: 8a88cfdc4d9611be4e3402ea259ea35e๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:31:38 PM No.95893432
_584f3953-011c-49ba-906f-9fe0f75b5852
_584f3953-011c-49ba-906f-9fe0f75b5852
md5: 09e617b346ca0d8012622e547271e99c๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>95893467 >>95893478
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:31:50 PM No.95893435
_91139079-e2a0-4717-834e-597ab8169bb0
_91139079-e2a0-4717-834e-597ab8169bb0
md5: 567ccc0d3ebf627ceb0cfee4ad6611a3๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:35:07 PM No.95893467
>>95893432
Now I kinda want to try and gen some elemental-themed snucks.
Replies: >>95893571 >>95893582
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:36:41 PM No.95893478
>>95893432
What is the prompt for all this cuteness?
Replies: >>95893485
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:38:35 PM No.95893485
>>95893478
>[semi realistic art, small, snakelike body but with a duck head uniform white colour] [on stall counter of a busy street market, woman, short messy blonde hair, happy look, realistic fantasy character art] [busy city streetmarket night]
The results are always very mixed and most of the time not good, this was a happy accident
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:50:36 PM No.95893571
20250617_1747_Volcanic Serpentine Emergence_simple_compose_01jxzxnjbce1wb2tey5fts5v13
>>95893467
Replies: >>95893579
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:51:40 PM No.95893579
_009294c2-5dbc-42a5-9bc1-faf51829bf83
_009294c2-5dbc-42a5-9bc1-faf51829bf83
md5: 9380d8d87ca59859901f1cc996ba3ba6๐Ÿ”
>>95893571
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:52:05 PM No.95893582
muffled ACDC playing in the distance
muffled ACDC playing in the distance
md5: bbad39eb50f062274c815b1fc75ae56b๐Ÿ”
>>95893467
Thundersnuck?
Replies: >>95893634
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:59:50 PM No.95893634
>>95893582
Okay. You win today LMFAO
Nicely done!
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:09:12 AM No.95893694
OIG4 - 2025-06-17T180852.872
OIG4 - 2025-06-17T180852.872
md5: 15cc9c31aea5f893f140e974e4231c3e๐Ÿ”
>>95893392
The moon is tied to water, see how the tide yearns to reach the moon?
Replies: >>95893720 >>95893732 >>95894618
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:13:28 AM No.95893720
OIG3.q
OIG3.q
md5: 527a88dd79483bd83fb8096cc19613a0๐Ÿ”
>>95893694
From Undine to Salamander
Replies: >>95893732 >>95893746
lowercase sage !!ksznD1Xs7EU
6/18/2025, 12:14:50 AM No.95893726
522d5d9e-8a29-45c0-a9b4-0f5cf64821e0
522d5d9e-8a29-45c0-a9b4-0f5cf64821e0
md5: cdcab6d7d2e52f6f0c4787dc34e81227๐Ÿ”
Good night.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:15:23 AM No.95893728
7ef06a22470dc105834699e736d1749c
7ef06a22470dc105834699e736d1749c
md5: 2a42a1dfdf2f035a44ba18ec7d604fdd๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:15:39 AM No.95893732
>>95893694
>>95893720
disregard bitches, acquire lizards?
Replies: >>95893746 >>95893752
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:18:31 AM No.95893746
OIG2 - 2025-06-17T181728.410
OIG2 - 2025-06-17T181728.410
md5: f83a6f1a735933af3ec296cc4dbcaa6f๐Ÿ”
>>95893732
>>95893720
You'd think, but then comes Slyph like a gale
Replies: >>95893832
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:19:32 AM No.95893752
OIG1 - 2025-06-17T181130.087
OIG1 - 2025-06-17T181130.087
md5: cb8a7fda2458be0f776c668a5b659268๐Ÿ”
>>95893732
Here's another lizard though, it's pretty badass but not a big fat salamander
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:33:46 AM No.95893832
>>95893746
And at last gnomes
Replies: >>95893839 >>95893847
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:34:47 AM No.95893839
OIG4 - 2025-06-17T183304.597
OIG4 - 2025-06-17T183304.597
md5: f3ea6be15aa244a39c9d4c412d8c7b0f๐Ÿ”
>>95893832
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:36:17 AM No.95893847
_1345b838-2b01-4c7a-9f3c-77e36f934e45
_1345b838-2b01-4c7a-9f3c-77e36f934e45
md5: bd74576bb82d51747c752c3c16b88bfe๐Ÿ”
>>95893832
Liking the set DK, even if ya forgot the image again with that last one lol
Replies: >>95893904
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:47:32 AM No.95893904
>>95893847
It's a curse.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:00:50 AM No.95893996
1729225518083
1729225518083
md5: 341cebff61311c33a02546f24eebed00๐Ÿ”
>>95888062 (OP)
>TT
>Edgar Scrolls casts Damension Door
Replies: >>95894119 >>95897400
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:20:08 AM No.95894119
_76c153e6-24cb-4595-9891-48a3d7f335a3
_76c153e6-24cb-4595-9891-48a3d7f335a3
md5: ab21c1030b46c92d6445b922c36eec07๐Ÿ”
>>95893996
No wonder the dam keeps under performing.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:30:03 AM No.95894173
_759c225d-7cd3-408a-a48f-6dd05534f60b
_759c225d-7cd3-408a-a48f-6dd05534f60b
md5: 81b7555c9e4357ea062b831ee672abf9๐Ÿ”
>TT
The closest thing to a state religion in Ecumene is a reconstruction of Greco-Buddhism, returning as the great synthesis of ancient Greek thought, taking freely from the presocratic, stoic and skeptic schools, as well as later Hellenistic mystics and philosophers, and the Vajrayana Buddhist traditions presented with an injection of Chinese Mahayana eclecticism, especially from Chan/Zen schools. Centuries ago you wouldn't be able to get two people to agree over the definition of "monk.", but Prof. Eckhart Adi Rashbi, Her Higness' Minister of Culture, officially her 'Scholarch', succeeded in blending East and West to codify this religious and philosophical movement's foundations: anything from language, texts, art, architecture, to ritual, ethics, metaphysics needed to be defined - and we can speculate that some ancient thinkers would have even dared to say "invented."
The eternal flame is the name for a symbol found across countless of Earth's cultures across the continents. Powerful, consuming, purifying, illuminating, warming, dangerous, indispensable, easily reproduced, and many more things is fire: the foundation of human civilization and community, a power stolen from the gods themselves according to certain groups' traditions.
The people responsible for the fracture of democracy in space call themselves "Flame Eternal" after the idea of a fire that cannot be extinguished - particularly fitting for a movement seeking to unite all under a dictatorship, and a project that gazes at eternity and the collective with a longing for honorable, "sacred" self-sacrifice. For generations, they've been plotting and working in secrecy well before the first humans abandoned Earth to colonize space. Their greatest accomplishment, and the greatest failure of their enemies, the Living Water who sought to defend democracy and equality forever, was the self-crowning of Queen Callidice Jeanne Zetian.
If you think you offended her, say: "The Flame burns eternal" in sync with her.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:42:27 AM No.95894226
Witchery
Witchery
md5: b965f24b7b5eef56e07bb5582f655788๐Ÿ”
When I ran a Witch Girls games for an all-female group, each of their characters symbolized one of the classic four elements.
Praxithea was fire, an athletic Greek witch with pagan divine parentage (Prometheus)
Elizabeth was water, from witch aristocracy
Gwynhwyvar was air, a half Sidhe from the fae realms
Nathifa was earth, new to her powers, a 21st century digital witch
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:56:56 AM No.95894333
_c118ba9b-0242-467a-afdd-3237271738a3
_c118ba9b-0242-467a-afdd-3237271738a3
md5: e17798e41660ef0e0dcdb4197993b4ef๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:44:15 AM No.95894618
anime elf 6662
anime elf 6662
md5: 350b2ec50c1cb39daae2587e34e55550๐Ÿ”
>>95893694
makes sense
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:54:24 AM No.95894681
_3e27f4fb-4531-4dcd-9baa-3346306c1a35
_3e27f4fb-4531-4dcd-9baa-3346306c1a35
md5: 9a2ed986ef7a92a9fff9e3350d46eeb5๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:06:24 AM No.95894759
(1)
(1)
md5: 8aa130d64d83de26c1ea05f6390d8412๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>95894850
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:11:52 AM No.95894794
(2)
(2)
md5: 422b76d388935a9cc4666bd26e2b5dab๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>95894850
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:14:25 AM No.95894809
(3)
(3)
md5: 421f0bee58c50c08aeeda8f6dbe17e10๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>95894850
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:21:04 AM No.95894843
(4)
(4)
md5: 1cb9cc3cadbc653e3e896099cbd7d52a๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>95894850
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:21:06 AM No.95894844
_b881b032-b8fa-4a66-9bcf-32b86efc1866
_b881b032-b8fa-4a66-9bcf-32b86efc1866
md5: ab91eb6a77a614102254466c2235a725๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:22:10 AM No.95894850
>>95894843
>>95894809
>>95894794
>>95894759
good set! I want to like 2 the best, but the hand sadly ruins it. I like absolutely everything else about it best
Replies: >>95894901
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:24:51 AM No.95894862
_06f1f64a-00c5-4d17-b53e-378ee2885f4a
_06f1f64a-00c5-4d17-b53e-378ee2885f4a
md5: 0728ff4e8c6a47af59487a513250e380๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:26:15 AM No.95894872
Salafier on a tour of the classical elements
Salafier on a tour of the classical elements
md5: 9900a0d92935a2d91d41d2e1a4d5750c๐Ÿ”
>>95888062 (OP)
>TT
A forge seemed too obvious a choice for fire, so have a nice cheerful witch-burning instead.
Replies: >>95894892
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:28:59 AM No.95894892
>>95894872
Creative thread task interpretation. I like the framing of the bottom right one for water especially.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:30:53 AM No.95894901
Hand Horror
Hand Horror
md5: 41111e0326e66a3dc412071573479d9f๐Ÿ”
>>95894850
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:39:25 AM No.95894950
1750210765292315.png
1750210765292315.png
md5: eb18adf2cdfbe7e437e25a05b7ac5a7e๐Ÿ”
Race: Fairy
Class: Wizard (Evocation)
Background: Soldier
Random Oddity: Black sheep. Your family members are all pillars of society, except you.
>Though whimsical and free-spirited, the fae are by no means without warriorsโ€”those swift to shed blood in defense of their realm.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:45:28 AM No.95894979
elemental men
elemental men
md5: 26e990ebd625da5d504b6045761226d5๐Ÿ”
>>95888062 (OP)
>Thread Task
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:47:38 AM No.95894996
file
file
md5: beac646b2fbebecc3229aa80bae9856f๐Ÿ”
How does this weapon look? Does it look okay?
Replies: >>95895032
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:57:28 AM No.95895032
>>95894996
Sure. I guess the head of the halberd is a little on the chunky side relative to historic examples, but it should be fine for a superhumanly strong demon dude.
Replies: >>95895114
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:03:51 AM No.95895060
Butterflies live for two weeks and in that time do nothing but fuck
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:07:55 AM No.95895075
_63522635-45bc-4ac3-abf5-8a611d8a2de0
_63522635-45bc-4ac3-abf5-8a611d8a2de0
md5: 464c8ea04cd219bd258a066221afe4aa๐Ÿ”
>>95891880
>Cool. What gives these their diffuse painted style?
Sorry for the really late response. I can't speak for >>95887684 but for the shopping drow I just used the
>digital painting with rough brushstrokes, muted colors
That another anon posted.
And of course, the same for this one.
Replies: >>95895095 >>95895113
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:08:21 AM No.95895079
Statler &amp; Waldorf
Statler &amp; Waldorf
md5: 9370c9deb589b940261b5b12c787ab21๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>95895177
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:11:00 AM No.95895095
_9c0cb675-7b47-45a5-960e-459faac15a28
_9c0cb675-7b47-45a5-960e-459faac15a28
md5: e1bfad1af11959cbae0c8a683f356ecc๐Ÿ”
>>95895075
Wasn't planning on it at first but fuck it, gonna complete the element cycle
Replies: >>95895117
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:15:04 AM No.95895113
>>95895075
Other anon popping in, missed the question in the previous thread. Mine specifically mentioned a pitch black cave illuminated only by faint purple light, with the style being prompted by:

>1980s fantasy artwork in the style of Heavy Metal magazine
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:15:12 AM No.95895114
_74ca366b-62da-4047-8f05-5eedbbe7dc11
_74ca366b-62da-4047-8f05-5eedbbe7dc11
md5: d34a840c644a70949b87fe03f8f273b1๐Ÿ”
>>95895032
I have not had a lot of luck getting a halberd
Replies: >>95895124 >>95895179
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:15:53 AM No.95895117
_7eb05bbf-8850-47a5-8c9f-987c342aa250
_7eb05bbf-8850-47a5-8c9f-987c342aa250
md5: a52529ea799a1a0a37ac350c9b8ef8c2๐Ÿ”
>>95895095
Replies: >>95895146
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:17:38 AM No.95895124
_2d726bf3-4ef0-4f14-b416-5704f5dd5de6
_2d726bf3-4ef0-4f14-b416-5704f5dd5de6
md5: 2f8d252cd1cea636a927ab1a3241d632๐Ÿ”
>>95895114
Check out this crazy "halberd"
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:18:00 AM No.95895126
No, wait, I can explain
No, wait, I can explain
md5: 4ee070f7b5c4da8c5af23ef970cbf137๐Ÿ”
Warlocks. Not even once.
Replies: >>95895140
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:21:13 AM No.95895140
>>95895126
I'd make a pact with her.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:23:04 AM No.95895146
_bc560aba-f488-484f-a611-1e2ff6677f2a
_bc560aba-f488-484f-a611-1e2ff6677f2a
md5: 39226d46f9f5f80e6ff3e43dc4970881๐Ÿ”
>>95895117
Bing is really bad at making the avatar arrow tattoo.
Replies: >>95895209
Alpharius
6/18/2025, 4:23:26 AM No.95895148
00052-2040599141
00052-2040599141
md5: c0719781a28cd62b38fe341ca1f4ecb1๐Ÿ”
Alpharius
6/18/2025, 4:24:27 AM No.95895153
00003-1801700342
00003-1801700342
md5: 3f5bbcd021557c9f506bb31db57ac76e๐Ÿ”
Alpharius
6/18/2025, 4:26:21 AM No.95895165
00005-3785694628
00005-3785694628
md5: 0572280ab380fe60fd25876c60e798c0๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:28:31 AM No.95895177
Two gentleman out on a stroll
Two gentleman out on a stroll
md5: 204ab14c2617d40fe4988fed47e56b08๐Ÿ”
>>95895079
Alpharius
6/18/2025, 4:29:13 AM No.95895179
>>95895114
>I have not had a lot of luck getting a halberd
Things like halberds, staves, spears, etc often "break" in AI so it basically boils down to
>did it work?
>trash it
>try again
Replies: >>95895218
Alpharius
6/18/2025, 4:33:13 AM No.95895199
00042-25030074
00042-25030074
md5: b9800cb20a88412311b7aa1743d2dd99๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:35:02 AM No.95895209
_546529a7-6905-47b2-8107-c493bbbc8348
_546529a7-6905-47b2-8107-c493bbbc8348
md5: 28c95883a6c835a66767b9e212c84f43๐Ÿ”
>>95895146
Or maybe Storm is a better choice for air. Damn Bing refusing to give me her mohawk.
Alpharius
6/18/2025, 4:35:08 AM No.95895211
00002-3656559971
00002-3656559971
md5: 0513544e480373c1d3931e0df9d7a692๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:36:05 AM No.95895218
>>95895179
The problem is likely with the training data. When trying to prompt for weapons, you're basically having to guess what the 'jeets who categorized the relevant training images described the weapons in those images as. I'd bet you that most of those poor bastards don't know the difference between a halberd, a glaive, a pike, a spear, a pole axe, etc.

Same reason why basically any attempt to gen a gun other than an AR-15 or AK-47 looks like shit.
Replies: >>95895269
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:41:00 AM No.95895253
I don&#039;t remember grandma&#039;s old house being so...small
Alpharius
6/18/2025, 4:43:27 AM No.95895269
>>95895218
>The problem is likely with the training data.
only partly.
I have a stripper OC, and the stripper pole breaks all the time because the AI treats the pole at the top of the image and the part of the pole that's at the bottom of the image as two separate entities.

If you want to see some really tangled up shit, try genning a bow and arrow. AI routinely shits the bed on those.
Replies: >>95895480
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:48:31 AM No.95895303
posinggreatsword
posinggreatsword
md5: 695a308589a67de7ffbb9ef2650dcb83๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:03:55 AM No.95895401
Gas, cigarettes, sunscreen, shower-in-a-can. Maybe a bigger boat
>>95888144
Replies: >>95895473
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:21:38 AM No.95895473
>>95888144
>>95895401

So the original picture, the one that's been bouncing around /tg/ for years. Is from some anime/manga, or is it a one-off?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:22:49 AM No.95895480
_15fd8688-5929-4144-87de-43c63240563a
_15fd8688-5929-4144-87de-43c63240563a
md5: 43c29b4db463da14835680053bd70146๐Ÿ”
>>95895269
So close, but not quite there
Replies: >>95895596
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:35:45 AM No.95895547
We have apartment blocks in America, we just don&#039;t live in them
Bing is surprisingly good at graffiti murals.
Replies: >>95895563 >>95895571
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:39:59 AM No.95895563
>>95895547
>a piece of graffiti so large and complex that it could only have been completed over many days or even weeks, with scaffolding over the full height of the building's faรงade
What does it say about a society where the ownership class intentionally graffities their own buildings at great expense?
Replies: >>95895617
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:42:11 AM No.95895571
Grass, gas, or ass
Grass, gas, or ass
md5: f7c4e38dc94f41ff85b1f27b2f36f9fe๐Ÿ”
>>95895547
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:49:28 AM No.95895596
OIG4 - 2025-06-17T234728.310
OIG4 - 2025-06-17T234728.310
md5: 780f4d378cc6faaf26fc0e0507b9479a๐Ÿ”
>>95895480
Replies: >>95895605 >>95896767
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:50:29 AM No.95895605
OIG4.Ovo5_DQQxp98r79s
OIG4.Ovo5_DQQxp98r79s
md5: f92d85f6afda93615d3b0ae35dd96953๐Ÿ”
>>95895596
Replies: >>95895616 >>95896767
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:52:18 AM No.95895616
OIG1.4IO
OIG1.4IO
md5: 177a2af23f9981bf4421f709523527eb๐Ÿ”
>>95895605
Replies: >>95895940 >>95896767
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:52:24 AM No.95895617
>>95895563
I suspect you underestimate both the skill and ingenuity of graffiti artists.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:55:13 AM No.95895637
Welcome back; your dreams were your ticket out
Welcome back; your dreams were your ticket out
md5: 2dc634b1c60c1c82c85b01321ff7224b๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>95895664
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:59:05 AM No.95895664
>>95895637
I used to work in SF. Worst traffic on the planet, homeless people everywhere. Its worse than LA
Replies: >>95895683
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:02:46 AM No.95895683
>>95895664
The first time I ever saw a dead person was during a trip to SF. There was a hobo corpse across the street from my hotel for three days straight in 2009. He was halfway a skeleton from the nibbling of rodents before the authorities finally cleared him away.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:31:02 AM No.95895809
Never quit
Never quit
md5: 6c9014ceae9721b074c07d260aabe464๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:03:07 AM No.95895928
_f754aa20-6fc0-4e74-a3cc-c36747b75829
_f754aa20-6fc0-4e74-a3cc-c36747b75829
md5: caf74effde8debe4639a09c15e46ea30๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:05:08 AM No.95895940
_eabfbbe0-faf8-494f-af86-0be14d4a950c
_eabfbbe0-faf8-494f-af86-0be14d4a950c
md5: 2472beece1a0d1bcecc6601daeb5e335๐Ÿ”
>>95895616
And here, once again, we see DK stunting on people. What system are you using in your genning?
Replies: >>95895972 >>95896008
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:17:01 AM No.95895972
>>95895940
Stunting? Because he either have no legs, or his lower body have merged with the stone?
Replies: >>95896008
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:28:32 AM No.95896008
OIG4 - 2025-06-18T012708.009
OIG4 - 2025-06-18T012708.009
md5: b9ed02653e82d76e63549b0c605068af๐Ÿ”
>>95895972
He's "by stone altar" I wanted something in the background so it wasn't a white background. Here is a mountain trail instead. Do you want to see his feet or something?

>>95895940
I only ever use Bing, I'm too dumb to use other stuff
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:31:35 AM No.95896020
FXB-Verse_00118-D&amp;D book Style, aquatic ritual in the distance, FLUX Plague Doctor, blueish green attire, magical water powers, aquatic aura
>thread task
Fire is too easy, water is healing, water is peaceful
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:37:03 AM No.95896042
OIG3 - 2025-06-18T013402.975
OIG3 - 2025-06-18T013402.975
md5: 6507545b05f6b0a57d926486de840c4e๐Ÿ”
>>95896008
And here is a crouching one which should be extra difficult given the line generation. Now, don't ask me to post feet again. It's weird
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:47:07 AM No.95896077
>>95896008
He is inside the stone altar. Also, great that we now got six versions of him holding a bow
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:47:41 AM No.95896079
IMG_20250618_004542
IMG_20250618_004542
md5: 836f7061b797d26c8adc317a14c44191๐Ÿ”
>c'mon guys, he doesn't spam or avatarfag
>13 posts with the same OC in one thread
>so many that 4chan accuses ME of spam when I try to tag them all

Yep. Real unreasonable complaints.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:10:34 AM No.95896194
>>95896077
He's behind it but to be honest I don't care about your obsession with it, there's other pics that don't have it

>>95896079
Someone said bowstrings were difficult so I posted a couple, then this anon ^ above had an issue with the fact that he couldn't see his legs/feet more so I wanted to show that you can have that too. If I only posted one, one of you faggots would say it was a lucky break, so I posted a couple to prove repeatability & quality. If you want less posts by me per thread post more yourself. The board is slow, that's not my fault. Be more engaging or something, honestly I'm fucking tired of your bellyaching.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:10:10 AM No.95896436
>>95896194
It's not his fault he's bitching all the time. It's your and other characterposters' fault, you should apologize to him!

>inb4 it was sarcasm
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:52:51 AM No.95896560
Gildedsoul Noble
Gildedsoul Noble
md5: 75d0b3e3dbf92b49a57e145a0dafe855๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:30:02 AM No.95896657
Quicksoul Deckhand
Quicksoul Deckhand
md5: a6f86f9f62ab37d99296a93cb690e8d9๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:31:05 AM No.95896658
Ferrousoul Gladiator
Ferrousoul Gladiator
md5: a5e3ae63a7722dca505b92bad07b27c9๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:36:39 AM No.95896670
Gildedsoul Noble
Gildedsoul Noble
md5: 7124354c483f5a8c070e47079214d29d๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:08:17 AM No.95896751
Geniekin
Geniekin
md5: a3e21b45580c85000d62c17e9c082af8๐Ÿ”
lowercase sage !!ksznD1Xs7EU
6/18/2025, 11:14:20 AM No.95896767
20250618_1017_Water Genasi Wizard_simple_compose_01jy11qzxef0dasdseyr82pfca
>>95895596
>>95895605
>>95895616
>Anon never heard about mystical art of collaging
lowercase sage !!ksznD1Xs7EU
6/18/2025, 12:35:56 PM No.95897016
20250518_1953_Smoke Genasi Rogue_simple_compose_01jvj8cpx4evbteg804nheb89e
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:51:57 PM No.95897071
file_0000000040d4622faecba0339eeb029e
file_0000000040d4622faecba0339eeb029e
md5: 3d0683b3420fddc7f24f78d5f49a434b๐Ÿ”
Light and dark could be considered elements, no?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:53:02 PM No.95897079
20250618_0636_Fiery Warrior Presence_remix_01jy19p5f6f6xv9r6a45v892rc
>>TT
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:54:14 PM No.95897084
20250618_0648_Warrior Amidst Flames_remix_01jy1abwpfe6f9qs3zpv3aznm7
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:55:30 PM No.95897088
>>95897084
...and I'll bake up the next thread in just a bit after I grab a quick breakfast.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:00:11 PM No.95897108
>>95897079
>>95897084
>the heat made her tits grow
I am entirely alright with this.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:09:29 PM No.95897141
Order up!
>>95897128
>>95897128
>>95897128
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:00:57 PM No.95897381
>>95890589
That generic CaliArts fuccthot face is gonna be the mullet of the '20s and it's already so fucking vomit inducing.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:05:40 PM No.95897400
>>95893996
He should learn and cast Comprehend Languages some day.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:14:53 PM No.95897426
>>95897400
Knowing him, he would cast Compadre Languages or something like that