Thread 95900755

Your rightful king, edition

>Previously in the Mortal Realms: >>95883057

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>Thread question:
What’s your Favorite regiment of renown? What would you like to see as one?

>TQ
Most of the Chrustmas ones.
Trogg for hire probably being #1

Would someone be so kind as to share Call of Archaeon, if they have it? Part one, Beneath the Black Thumb, is all I ask. Ebook, pdf, audio, idc.

>>95900831
Aww

>>95900831
He just needs to walk it off right

>>95900831
YOU MISSED THE THIRD PAGE.

painting up my unit of chaos knights has unironically made me want to ditch StD. each model has as much detail as a character model and has to be made in sub assemblies because of awkward painting angles, not to mention the sheer amount of edge highlighting that needs to be done.

I BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF COOL

>>95901098
Get acrylic markers, they might help.

>>95901098
>edge highlighting

>cathay is insanely broken
gonna be interesting to see how the grogs handle this one

>>95900836
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>>95901149
It’s legitimately a deal breaker army from what little I’ve seen. They’re almost playing a different game. It’s a literal amplification of all the issues the game had at the start.

>>95901149
They’re gonna whine about it having to be strong because of the “Chinese sensitivity team” dictating that they have to be that strong or some other retarded complaint. Because that’s all they ever do is bitch and moan. Old good, new bad.

>>95901199
It does look like 2e release Slaanesh or 7e Daemons of Chaos levels of broken.

>generic cathayan swords you can give every character for 4 points give +1S -1AP strike first
KEK LOL LMAO

>>95901288
it sounds like they learned the lesson of the gitmob launch

>>95901098
Painting up my Freeguild Cavaliers has convinced me I should expand my CoS Spearhead into a full army. They have a ton of detail and different textures but most of the small ones are easily done with a drop of Contrast and I'm very happy with the results

>>95901098
Making the riders separate from horses, would solve all of the problems I have with chaos knights.
Ironically, varanguard are much easier to handle due to lack of capes

>>95898836
If that's true, then GW is keeping a tighter lid on a big release wave than usual, the 3rd ed box leaked like a sieve.
Best we have is Valarak saying 'yeah Chorfs have a box with stuff and things in it'.

>>95902585
>Best we have is Valarak saying 'yeah Chorfs have a box with stuff and things in it'.
That's mostly because that living caricature of a Space Marine collector literally only cares about Space Marines. He could be shown the entire AoS release schedule for 4th edition and he'd either gloss over it quickly in a video about a new lieutenant announcement or not say a word about it.

>>95902689
Definitely, which is why I don't give it much credence since word-of-mouth about Chorfs is a dime-a-dozen but no-one has seen fit to snap a cheeky phone pic yet.

What does Alarielle think of Teclis's abandoned firstborn race the Idoneth?
What about the other aelven Gods like Morathi, Malerion, and Tyrion?

>>95902740
>What does Alarielle think of Teclis's abandoned firstborn race the Idoneth?
She actually works with them from time to time, despite a small ugly chapter a bit farther back. She's had some Sylvaneth come enhance the Chorellium of Briomdar to try and help with the IDK's curse or at least give them better lives or something like that.
>What about the other aelven Gods like Morathi, Malerion, and Tyrion?
Morathi sent her Shadowstalkers to the Deepkin temple deep in the AoS equivalent of the Mariana Trench to steal Ocarian Lantern which was originally used by Teclis to draw forth the first souls of those that would become the Cythai. Which was how she was able to consume so many noble souls when she teleported into Slaanesh's belly. Then she gave it back to Volturnos, albeit broken and not shining like it used to, but full of Cythai souls that Teclis had managed to purge. They have a tentative alliance.
Malerion...we don't know shit about besides a few vague snippets and him calling Morathi a slut after taking Anvilgard.
Tyrion persuaded Teclis to not eradicate the Deepkin and let them escape. I don't think he minds them much, but LRL and IDK probably work together about as much as they fight eachother.

>>95901303
What's wrong with Gitmob?

>>95902872
Really, really under powered rules.

>>95901149
I am gonna buy and paint several miao yings and give one to each of my favorite minis as wives.

>>95902872
Underpowered rules + overpriced models means neither competitive or casual players are inclined to pick them up.

anyone have the cities of sigmar battletome from 3e?

>>95901149
I'm supporting the French guy that makes sexy girl minis because he made sexy Cathay girls.
Oh yes, I'm gonna be that guy.

>>95902999
Raging Heroes?I have quite a lot of their minis. I honestly think their older stuff is better. Though ironically, I kind of wish it was digital so that it could be scaled up maybe 15%.One of the sculptors that used to make stuff for them is at Creature Caster.

>>95903013
Yes, Raging Heroes. It's their digital subscription service.
Although if I'm being honest, it's mostly for the dark elves. I'm a sucker for their style of sexy evil elf wench.

I think I am going to buy a Cathay army. The models look sweet. Ill use them for CoS proxies but their rules look cool in old world too. Might have to finally give that a try too.

What happened to the wild orruks? Were they eliminated?

>>95902872
>>95902878
>>95902899
Also a different aesthetic from the rest of the Gloomspite so people who like them would probably like to run an all-Gitmob army, but the army rule actively punishes you for doing that.

>>95903045
Just remember, every shugengan you field is canonically the result of Miao fucking some random human dude.
Until they release the other dragons, and then you can field their human brats.

>>95903030
I think the issue I have with their current line up is actually the opposite of when they were only producing resin and metal. The details, like the shield especially in your pic, are too chunky because they have to be 3D printed. I'm definitely not against printing, but I do with that digital sculptors would accept that they can't just print a full model. Break it into parts so things can be fitted together after printing. So some details can fit better. So you don't have to clean supports in places they shouldn't be.

>>95903053
>every shugengan you field is canonically the result of Miao fucking some random human dude
Um like you said aren't there a bunch of dragon kids in the lore? It could be Miao's kid but it could also be her niece/nephew.

>>95902994
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>>95903062
It's her expeditionary force. Would she risk Zhao's little girl or bring her own idiot failson?

>>95903062
It's probably like ten generations removed from whatever dragon they're related to anyway

>>95903082
>Would she risk Zhao's little girl or bring her own idiot failson?
Don't they all have a fuck load of kids? Like didn't the Dragon Emperor mandate that his kids fuck humans and impregnate them/get impregnated by them to make more dragon blooded?

>>95903030
I watched a Youtube video where this lady reviewed the armor on the Cathay models and talked about the historical influences, and she was really impressed with how they used mountain armor. It's probably mythical but it shows up a lot on artistic depictions of gods or famous heroes. So with the Cathay range, GW only put it on powerful heroes and the stone guardians.

They didn't just go "oh cool weird Chinese thing, let's slap that everywhere" they actually learned more about the context of it and used that to build the visual language of the army.

Anyway, I was just reminded of that by seeing that third party guy putting mountain armor on basic ass troops

>>95903092
They do in fact breed with humans like rabbits.

Does anyone have the 3rd Flesh-Eater Battletome?

>>95903096
At least link the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGr5ZBawDeU&t=76s&ab_channel=LoricaClothing

She is great if you are interested in armour/armour design history in general not just Chinese.

So... Is AOS essentially dead?

Is GWS dumping us for TOW ?

>>95903149
As I have told others before here and in wfg. It's not a competition. AoS and TOW are completely different games. They complement GW port not clash against one another.

>>95903096
>They didn't just go "oh cool weird Chinese thing, let's slap that everywhere" they actually learned more about the context of it and used that to build the visual language of the army.
This was probably due to the consultations with their Chinese sensitivity team, which TOW grogs would have you believe is some evil plot to only depict China in a good light and promote pro-China shit and whatever else they can blame on them. Having consideration for your cultural inspirations in design just makes your end product overall better when it makes sense to the people it's inspired by.

>>95903165
>which TOW grogs would have you believe is some evil plot to only depict China in a good light and promote pro-China shit and whatever else they can blame on
To be fair Cathay is glazed to a degree that not even High Elves are in Fantasy. We need to wait for the book to see the extent of the lore but everything they have written so far has been about how Cathay is the best at everything. Feels very much like jerking off China.

>>95903149
If they were, they might've actually released a full army for Cathay. One infantry unit, one cavalry unit, a couple of artillery units, and a couple monsters is not a full army.

>>95903176
To be fair every faction gets glazed in their marketing matierial and lore books.

>>95903218
I wish Morathi would glaze me

I don’t hate kruelboyz but I feel like they’re missing something.

>>95903667
Soul

>>95903687
Can have that in plastic.

>>95903667
cavalry

RIP Bam Margera. aosg salutes you

>>95903667
> but I feel like they’re missing something.

yeah, cavalry, monstrous infantry, elite melee infantry, they're just straight up missing like half the unit types for no reason, despite having heroes for them like the gnashtoof boss.

>>95903599
Sandwich glaze between Morathi, Alarielle, and Miao Ying.

>>95903092
That, and they fucked horses for Longma

>>95903667
Splitting Orcs from Goblins was a costly mistake

>>95904050
...but kruleboyz have goblins

>>95904075
Hob grotz.
I hate the 40k naming.

>>95904185
if somethings as simple as that triggers you, this really isnt your game.

>>95904241
Zoomers have destroyed the concept of language if "I dislike these changes" to mean le epic triggering or whatever the fuck.

>>95904185
Orruks

>>95904185
No, they have regular Grots too you fucking tourist

>>95904259
one of age of sigmars central themes was reimaging and evolving the fantasy races from the ground up. this includes renaming like aelf, duardin, orruk, grot, etc, but also goes much deeper with bald aquatic aelves, skinny clever orruks who prefer ranged weaponry, duardin who no longer tunnel underground but instead live in the skies on floating cities and balloons, and so on.

so yeah, if you're getting hung up just on the naming, wait until you see what they did with inverting all the standard fantasy tropes. unironcally trigger warning for your sensitive ass.

>>95904326
>reimaging and evolving the fantasy races from the ground up
Which is why it recycled everything and just copied names from 40k.
It's really lazy.

>>95903030

Raging heroes are doing Cathay? Fuck yes.
I like the basic GW troops just fine but I'll definitely print some of their heroes for my "Cathay as Lumineth" project

Here's my Light of Eltharion proxy sorted.

>>95904407
>Raging heroes
Their models are fucking shit. I bought, like a fool, their not!SoB years ago. They were terrible.

>>95904492
titanforge did some cathay looking stuff forever ago called like dragon empire. might be worth a look. it was somewhat japanese chinese fusion though, not pure chinese

>>95904492

>their models are shit

That's unfortunate, I've looked but never actually bought one.
How were they bad, poor modeling or bad materials/manufacturing?
If it was the latter then the newer ones should be better since they are just 3D printable STL's

>>95904527
If I was going to get Cathay I'd just get GW's stuff one way or another. Be it recaster or 3rd party 25% off. The issue I have with proxies is these faggots have skill to make models but instead of trying to make their own setting or range they just do 0.95:1 copies of Warhammer and it is so fucking boring. There is one guy who does art for the models of a company and hidden in his range are some actual stuff GW doesn't do. It just makes you go 'Wow I wish they'd do an entire faction of unseen stuff'.

>>95904533
They weren't STL so maybe the STL are better and of course this was years ago during their 1st(?) attempt. The issue was they weren't as high quality as I had hoped. I know all these proxy companies cheat by showing the 3D model 'painted' to make it look great and well detailed, but these were just poor quality, bordering on old GW metal models where details merge into each other. If I can find them I'll take a picture. Maybe I got screwed because I seem to remember there were options for material choices and maybe I picked the wrong one or got the wrong one, but it soured me.

You may have better luck and your one seems to be a different range entirely so you prob could produce better if you're prooonting.

>8 months since GW last remembered Warcry
It's ogor.

>>95904547
>The issue I have with proxies is these faggots have skill to make models but instead of trying to make their own setting or range they just do 0.95:1 copies of Warhammer and it is so fucking boring.
I feel you, but unfortunately the knock-off warhammer shit sells.

>>95904625
I would kill to be able to draw well and quickly and model. I'd make my own setting. Sure it'd be magical realm, but fuck it if I had the skill I'd do it. So now I'm left coping and hoping that GW will realise that Araby, Nippon, Khuresh, Ind and Amazons are worth making proper armies (Araby had a proper army.... in Warmaster and Nippon had a proper army... in 1st.... Amazons had a proper army.... in 4th). In fact get Creative Assembly to do it because the result was GW designed and wrote the entire faction anyway. CA being able to sell four more armies....

>>95904621
I wake up in a puddle of my own sweat
I can still feel the gnarlwoods around me
Choking me with their mere presence
Whenever I turn, the trees seem to move
I thought I'd be used to it, years in ghyran
But here it's different, it's all dead quiet
As when holding a breath before a shot
And I find myself holding my breath too
But I'm not shooting and so I'm afraid
I'm afraid I'm not the one hunting here
It's only the trees that are always silent

And so are the people

>>95904621
>warcry dead
>underworlds lives

>>95904658
Is that a Silent Ones reference?

>>95904667
Underworlds fills a niche still. Warcry is kind of being usurped by Spearhead.
I agree that I wish it had been the other way around too and Underworlds had died.

>>95904677
>Underworlds fills a niche still. Warcry is kind of being usurped by Spearhead.
I guess the Warcry leaned too hard into bespoke teams where Spearhead actually builds you toward the main game.

>>95904677
>>95904667
As per a few months ago, I believe (but not sure) there is a transgender lady working at GW on several new games. White Dwarf said 'several new secret projects'. As far as I know, one of these is AoS version of Mordheim set in Cinderfall.

As for the other games? Well my copium is BFG game of some sort. In 2014(?) GW announced the creation of their new Specialist Game Studio and said they were working on remaking BFG but nothing has happened. So I assume they're doing it but maybe making it bigger or HH only for cheapness. Who knows.

>>95904688
Spearhead really is a brilliant marketing tactic. Selling two boxes side by side for each faction that puts you lost of the way to a full army is exactly the kind of way you slippery-slope someone into the big game.

>>95904695
>BFG game of some sort
I'd love some version of it set in AoS.

>>95904704
It's also unironically a good game. Like, Spearhead is fucking fun to play. The card system where you pick between objectives and gameplay bonuses is great, leading to difficult decisions constantly, and the AoS rules are just intuitive and simple while allowing for interesting things to happen. The spearheads themselves are also generally very nice, with good models and just enough complexity that you can spend a few games just learning how to play it differently.
I've been playing the SCE one from the starter set a fair amount, and I've discovered new uses for their once-per-game run and charge ability several times.

>>95904704
too bad the big game isn't spearhead

>>95904709
How would that work? If you mean Man'O'War remake then the issue still remains that factions are forgotten and logic goes out the window (such as how IDK don't just rape everybody).

>>95904677
>Warcry is kind of being usurped by Spearhead.
Warcry is as similar to Spearhead as underworlds is, they're completely different games? Spearhead is not a skirmish game, it's a low-points version of aos, there is absolutely no overlap between the two beyond both technically using less models than a full 2k aos game.

>>95904720
now that they have the pictured objective plates for the main game, you can literally just use the spearhead scoring rules, tactics and twists deck, you should be able to directly port it 1 to 1 now

>>95904688
Nah Spearhead and Warcry are so different.
Underworlds is gay and should have been cancelled

>>95904723
>How would that work?
Pretty straightforwardly, I imagine. Factions vie for control of the skies, the moons, the stars and the void and they variously have means to navigate and project power in these theaters.

>>95904783
So the one unique thing about the Seraphon, having giant spaceships is immediately nullified and everybody has spaceships. OK.

>>95904747
>>95904756
This is true but the issue is GW don't want a skirmish game for its own sake, they went a skirmish game to push competitors out of the market. Is there a fantasy skirmish game that's currently popular or is it low model count unit based games like Warcrow?
I think Spearhead is their new focus because Kill Team attracts skirmish players (generally, not setting specific) whereas Spearhead captures the low model count games that funnel players into larger games.
We're due a new edition of Warcry soon so if we hear little between now and August it's over

>>95901149
aw man i need to know

what broken about them?

>>95904695
source?
>transgender lady
oh nvm you're schizo

>>95904709
>lets copy another system's game with an aos reskin instead of playing on the actual strengths of aos as a setting

>>95904783
AOS giving every faction star ships and slowly turning into more fantastic smaller scale 40k would be a really weird direction to try to take things.

>>95904873
I'm not sure what you mean. What's wrong with the system that it doesn't play to the strengths of AoS as a setting? Its simulationist system may seem clunky relative to the more gamist system of mainline AoS, but that's also why I think it would be cool to see it combined with this setting.

Something I find a bit worrying is that the last "AoSified" army we got was Lumineth, all the way back in 2nd edition.

Everything since then has been more conventional and less stylized and experimental, with the last few major releases being so conservative that they seem almost like old world models (Darkoath, Skaven, Gitmob, Soulblight skellies)

I for one want more Cow mountains, Bonereapers, Eel cavalry, airship dwarves etc, not less.

>>95904940
By the sound of it Chorfs are going to be AoSified into clockwork soldiers instead of the old style

>>95904940
The goblin chariots are pretty wacky, as was the first wave of new Soulblight models with Lauka Vai and all the cursed city dudes. FEC are also definitely AoS with the judge guy and so on.

>>95904948
>Chorfs are going to be AoSified into clockwork soldiers
I wish some heroic warehouse employee would snap a picture of the Chorfs already (assuming they exist) just so the Chorf redesign rumors can end one way or the other.

>>95904940
its sad but those armies havent had a substantial second wave since they came out (i know lumineth got a second wave soon after they came out but that was preplanned) , i imagine its because they just arent that popular? but liikee seen plenty of lumineth and idoneth players so idk

>>95904940
You forgot kruleboyz, the new cities of sigmar, and while flesh eater courts have their origins in old ghouls I think their aos delusion angle makes them different enough. And was slaanesh before or after lumineth ? Their aesthetic is also pretty distinctly aos.

But I can see where you're coming from. I think it comes down to old ranges having a solid defined aesthetic and broad model ranges, plus a pre-existing playerbase already in place to capitalize on. Releasing a brand new army is riskier from a business perspective, better to prioritize releases for older armies which need updating.

>>95905003

I didn't forget Kruleboyz I just think they are a bit old worldy, and new CoS is just fantasy cadians, a redesign of the empire yes but pretty conservative.
I must admit though that I completely forgot about the AoS Slaanesh release.

I do wish Fyreslayers, Deepkin, OBR, DoK, Khorne and KO get their second waves asap

>>95905045
I'm still very surprised Deepkin got three foot heroes instead of a single new unit. They have twice as many heroes as actual units.

>>95904940
One thing I miss is the strong art deco style of early SCE.

>>95905045
Mhyea I find cos and kruleboyz a lot more AoS-y than old worldish but I can see where you're coming from.

And yes a second wave would help all those armies out immensely. Right now if you want any variety in your 2k list you're practically bringing the entire range for any of those factions. All idk lists look the same if you're not spamming eels for example.

>>95905045
I don't really think there's anything old worldy about them at all, it's just that kruleboyz and nu-cos are "grimy" or grimdark gritty or whatever in comparison to a lot of the over the top heroic fantasy stuff. I also wouldn't say many releases besides those specific two have felt similar in vibe

What is the current status of chaos beasts and wild orruks in the lore?

>>95905141
Bonesplitterz are being drawn toward the edges of the realms like moths to a light.

As or beasts the chaos gods are demanding they pick sides and choose a god to follow, so the great brayherds are no more.

>>95905141
They're dead, Jim.

>>95905141
beasts:
>they were empowered and emboldened by the beating of ghur in the era of the beast and went out in the open en mass (side effect of the rampage of kragnos)
>then suddenly the beating stopped and they're now left without that support, in the open and sorrounded (when kragnos got tricked back into a cage)
>they got slaughtered, driven back, and the chaos gods started calling dibs on them to make god-aligned versions (pestigors soon according to rumors)
>those few that have survived are hiding, waiting for a moment to strike back, the herald of morghur has an ember of its essence to revitalise in due time (gavespawn reinvention eventually)

orcs:
>deemed too racist for this world and condemned to go kill themselves at the edges of the realms and against skaven

>>95905204
But they will come back in the future with new miniatures and lore, right?

>>95905141
Bonesplitterz: pilgrimage to the realms' edge in the hopes it will calm the disturbance in the waaagh. Others took the fight to Skaven in the gnaw.
Beasts of Chaos: retreating to their original domains, the depths of woodlands, places of corruption. Morghur followers soon™, Gorraghan Khai escaped with primordial Morghur goop
Sacrosanct: recalled to office jobs, though Astreia and others refused and rebelliously continue their quest

>>95905242
Beastmen maybe. It's hard to see a world where Bonesplitters are allowed to come back though, even TOW is too scared to support them with actual models/art/lore.

>>95905242
beastmen yes, bonesplitterz no because Ironjawz stole their concepts anyway

>>95905242
beastmen, maybe, possibly, if gw wraps their head around an army of chaos spawns.

savage orcs are doomed, at best you get more ironjaws with less armors like the shaman and wreckas.

>>95905242
Perhaps the wild orruks will return in the distant future as a new faction with a totally different and new lore, as happened to the space dwarves of 40k.

>>95905395
Squats weren't problematic for gw's sensibility teams.

>>95905242
I'm of the opinion that if beastmen come back it'll need to be a ground-up reinvention. Something drastic like moving them to destruction.
They need to get out of the warriors of chaos's shadow.

>>95905482
I don't understand what the problem is with wild orcs, context please.

>>95905488

>beasts in destruction

Then maybe Kragnos will finally belong somwhere

>>95905518
They now get perceived as a racist caricature of african tribal people.

>>95904045
what's longma?

>>95905488
>>95905526
GW would sooner make kragnos a faction of centaurs than reinvent beastmen to fit in destruction, there's too many years of baggage attached to beastmen to sever them from chaos, despite making them a slightly more neutral force instead of something overly aligned to chaos being absolutely the correct idea.

>>95904709
this book establishes that every race has at least some kind of airship. It will never happen, but a Dreadfleet style board game about blimp combat in the Mortal Realms would be sick

>>95905526
Beasts of Destruction? I guess it could work. After all, they fit well into the Destruction faction and the Kingdom of Ghur, but they would have to be entirely new races to distance themselves from the Chaos factions.

>>95904948
>Chorfs are going to be AoSified into clockwork soldiers
This is based entirely on Valrak trying to describe something that isn't Space Marines.
Valrak is broadly trustworthy on rumors, but the man literally doesn't know anything about Warhammer outside of Space Marines. We can believe the thing about the box coming soon, but not any of the details he gave

>>95905615
It would be interesting to see what the airships of the other races would be like.

>>95905642
It describes human ships as being driven by sails, and therefore pretty slow and not very maneuverable. Stormcast airships are, predictably, very shiny and fast. There's also a goblin airship held up by a giant inflated Squig, like all the fanmade Grotbag Scuttler conversions

>>95905642
I know there are some examples already in the fluff. Like skaven blimps and gitmob squig-balloons.

>>95905631
Agreed on Valrak, but the "clockwork" rumor is much older than him, I want to say it came from HWG originally but I'm not sure.

>>95905559
I guess it's a total and absolute F for them. But their output would have to be filled with a new faction, such as introducing the pirate orcs.

>>95905559
>[Citation needed]

>>95905725
There won't be such a thing
2 types of goblins for the moon guys and the sun guys
2 types of orcs for the gorky guys and the morky guys
there's no space for anyone else, next on the chopping block are forest goblins, replaced by night goblins who will appropriate their spiders

>>95905736
>Memory holed, new plastic models sent straight to the GW incinerator, announced that they WOULD NOT be moved over to TOW, literally the only time this has happened.
>TOW begrudgingly allows you to play them as an unexplained "upgrade" for normal orcs, but with strict limits, NO models, NO photos, NO Art, NO lore entries.
Obviously GW isn't ever going to come out and say "We decided our models that we've sold for decades are super racist, actually" but there were plenty of people outside the company pushing that outlook and Bonesplitters remain unprecedented as a sudden erasure for modern GW.

>>95905749
That makes sense. After all, the Ogors are also divided into those who walk and those who ride, so it would be a new Gargant faction.

>>95905782
giants aren't a real faction, they don't get a branch

>>95905791
and the sons of Behemat who are

>>95905559
Only racists think this, so no. Spiderfang are explicitly an offensive native american reference and persist as did Bonesplitterz, with new models, until last year and will in TOW eventually

I've found out what orruks, and more importantly, what destruction needs. Its music. All of the kits lack musicians, or pretty much all of them.

>>95905724
I'm hoping they mean industrial revolution but nerds don't know anything anymore so they just saw some gears and their only point of reference was steampunk.

>>95905816
Have you ever looked at a destruction infantry kit?

>>95905642
Would you like to see miniatures of the airships of the other races released or not?

>>95905815
>Only racists think this
Exactly, but they think they're being anti-racist by removing them.
>Spiderfang are explicitly an offensive native american reference and persist
Until they won't persist anymore soon enough.
>Bonesplitterz in TOW eventually
No, they won't come back in tow, they made sure of it by not even giving them their own unit profile, just a rule for normal orcs, meaning they got themselves away from the necessity of providing a kit for the profile.

>>95905833
No, I try not to.

>>95905847
Bonesplitterz have rules in TOW you muppet

>NOOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY FOREST GOBLINS ON FOOT AS GOBLIN MOBS WITHOUT THE LIGHT ARMOUR UPGRADE!
cope, it could not be more explicit

>>95905855
Can you even fucking read?
>>95905847
>not even giving them their own unit profile, just a rule for normal orcs

>>95905847
I wouldn't like the wild orcs and goblins to be eliminated, but the way things are going, their best way to survive would be for them to be assimilated by the other orc and goblin factions.

>>95905847
You could have just said "my gut tells me this is why that happened" instead of spending an hour trying to argue that the wind in the trees reveals the inner deliberations of a traditional games company.

>>95905864
You really can't. Because "forest goblins" "goblin mobs" and "the light armour upgrade" aren't things in this game

sorry, noob question. On the Battle profiles it says that the Darkoath heroes can lead 0-1 Monster and any Darkoath. Chaos Spawn are Beasts, not Monsters. So that means you can't put Chaos Spawn in a regiment run by a Darkoath hero, right?

Hey, does anyone know when the 5th edition will come out, what it will be about, what new races will be introduced, and which of the existing ones will receive a new edition?

>>95905940
2027
stormcasts vs zombies
droghuks
all of them

>>95905940
I can tell you it's probably about two years way almost to the day and it will have Stormcast in it. So don't expect any more rumors or "leaks" for at least another 12-18 months.

>>95905940
The game is on a three year edition cycle, so barring any massive disruption to the economy that might force GW to change that, the next edition will be released summer 2027.
We are reasonably certain that Chaos Dwarfs will be introduced this edition. There are no rumors about what will be introduced next edition. People can make guesses based on stuff that currently exists in the lore, but that would just be wishcasting.
All existing armies will receive new Battletomes next edition, with the possible exception of Ogors.

>>95905961
>>95905940
Oh yeah, and they rotate through Grand Alliances and 2nd, 3rd, and 4th were Death, Destruction , and Chaos respectively. So expect a Death faction in the starter box. Ossiarchs are currently the most anemic Death faction but we haven't seen their release for this edition yet.

>>95904326
It’s always so interesting to me that other settings and IP’s can have “legally distinct“ names for races, but when AoS does it, it’s a fucking crime and they’re “corporate slave names”.

>>95905970
>ogres
Baka, it’s fyreslayers that are in the limbo zone.

>>95905978
warhammer was already fine with having generic names for its races and already had in-setting specific names for them too
waking up one day to say that your ogres are actually called ogors now is not just retarded, it's downright insulting

>>95905992
the current rumor is that Fyreslayers will get a less Fyreslayery expansion and the Tome will be renamed to cover a broader swathe of Duardin that includes but is not limited to Fyreslayers.

Which I think is very believable and the best thing to do for the army.

>>95906018
Yeah, I don't really see this a bad thing. If anything it solves a lot of problems for their army range.

>>95906000
In fairness it is a completely different setting. They were called Ogres in Fantasy but than world blew up and now we're on crazy magic planes that are alive and now they're called Ogors.

>>95906018
That's not a rumor, that's your speculation.
the only rumor is that they're not getting a tome, and that they might be removed altogether like beastmen.

>>95906039
>the only rumor is that they're not getting a tome
that's literally the first half of the rumor. The rumor is that there won't be a Fyreslayers Battletome....


...there will be a new Battletome that includes Fyreslayers.

>>95906030
>In fairness it is a completely different setting
That just so happens to have everything almost exactly the same including a number of characters and various other hyperspecific things.

Remind me again how ogre is more likely to change into ogor than kharibdyss is to change into something else?

>>95905976
because that of death should be the faction of order.

>>95906057
No, this
>...there will be a new Battletome that includes Fyreslayers
is not a rumor that can be found anywhere at all, let alone by the same guy who told us they won't be getting a tome, you may think someone reliable said it, but you're prey to your copes and a game of telephone about speculations and wishlists.

>>95906062
Everything is (TM) topsy-turvey in the World of Wehrhammer.

>>95906062
Because when AoS launched GW wanted to keep Ogres going as an army but didn't really give a shit about the Dark Elfs. So Ogors got the new fluff and new name and Battletome, while GW just kept selling Dark Elf stuff as is until somebody came up with the Cities idea.

>>95906077
You have to actually post the original source of the rumor at this point if you're going to keep arguing about it.

>>95906094
Your argument doesn't hold up because they renamed cold ones and dark elves, among other things.

Which faction is most likely to go on permanent vacation with the savage orcs and beastmen?

>>95906104
OK they got halfway through the Dark Elfs and gave up

>>95906103
https://www.tga.community/profile/19224-whitefang-back-me-up/

>>95906111
Dark elf portion of CoS. Some more fatcast stuff when 5e rolls around.

Will the 5th edition have a cinematic trailer?

>>95906111
ogres, fyreslayers, spiderfangs, extremis chamber, vanguard chamber, and the remaining old nonhuman stuff in cities of sigmar. them some older units scattered here and there in some factions.

but there are good chances that ogres see a range update, fyreslayers get reinvented next edition, spiders get redone so that they're ridden by moonclan, that a few of those fatcasts units get a primaris rework, and that umbraneth get finally released at the same time as dark elves get removed.

>>95906149
yes

Which faction is the most popular and sells the most and which is the least popular and sells the least?

>>95906186
My faction
Your faction

>>95906186
we don't have that kind of data, we only have the size of reddit subforums and the numbers of participants at some tournaments.

But reddit doesn't filter for people who actually buy the faction's products, and some factions have fans beyond the miniatures and tabletop game itself, furthermore we know for a fact that the attendance of some factions at tournaments is influenced by how cheap the army is to collect as well as how strong it is in the meta, and faction popularity at large is influenced by the size of the products for it available as much as how recent their last big release has been and whether they were available in the starter boxset.

with these nebulous considerations in mind, skaven vampires, stormcast and chaos undivided seem very popular, while fyreslsyers and idoneth seem very unpopular

>>95906191
for the casual public and fans in general

>>95906186
Stormcast is definitely the most popular, though only by a marginal amount. It's not like 40k where Space Marines are in owned by 50% of the player base.

Stormcast sell well though. They're as popular as some of the less popular 40k Armies.

Does anyone know what Malerion (Malekith) is doing right now?

>>95906269
Borders wars with Tyrion.

>>95906269
Jerkin off

>>95906269
Playing WoW Classic in his gooncave

>>95906269
Insulting his whore of a mother.

>>95906269
All of the above

>>95906269
Peeking through the backdoor of sigmar's gladitorium into the female stormcasts' steamy changing room.

So Malerion has been the least active god of all? It's no wonder his faction (the Daughters of Khaine) doesn't worship him as their main god.

>>95906375
the khainites have no relation to malerion, he's not khaine and he's not morathi, they simply have their main territories in the plot of land in ulgu, his realm, that malerion gifted to his mother.

>>95906375
It’s funny you say malerion is the least active god, and then you mention daughters of khaine. Because, well, khaine is literally what one would call in stasis.

>>95906415
>what one would call in stasis
nigga, he's fucking dead, morathi carries around his heart to periodically drain it on the off chance he might stop being dead

>>95906404
Will Malerion one day have his own faction to lead or will he remain a mere spectator all the time?

>>95906506
Possibly by the end of this edition, yes.

But then again, we've been speculating his faction was right behind the corner for almost 10 years now.

>>95906522
He's riding the dragon right behind the mountain Anon! He's right there!

>>95906580
I'm still honestly baffled by whatever the fuck that is, it's clearly something, but what.

Could Sigmar and the other gods of order defeat the gods of the other factions?

>>95906601
All the gods of order, destruction and death were once united against chaos and lost.

>>95906617
They lost specifically because they weren't united.

>>95906623
They hadn't won prior to that and the split was chiefly because they were losing so it still stands

>>95906597
QRD?

AoS orcs and goblins reproduce by fungi like their Fantasy and 40K counterparts, or they do so in the beastman style.

im so glad facehammer is dying

>>95906123
Isn't this the same guy who lied about Skaventide being the second best selling box of all time?

¿Why is Azyr the only one of the 8 kingdoms that we know almost nothing about and if this will change in the future?

>>95906708
>lied

>>95906708
Why would you think that was incorrect? Do you think it sold MORE than Leviathan?

>>95906636
>and the split was chiefly because they were losing
no, the split happened because the elves tended to their own affairs, long before the return of chaos, if anything the elves tending to their own affairs is one of the reasons why chaos returned.

>>95906725
>>95906742
This is just sad guys. It’s a limited time box available EVERYWHERE that’s selling so poorly that just on this app there’s stores selling it for 30% off retail. He probably didn’t lie but he is wrong and it’s proof that leakers are bulletproof.

>>95905940
>>95906111
>>95906149
>>95906186
>>95906269
>>95906375
>>95906601
>>95906656
>>95906717
What's up with this rapid firing vapid newfaggotry?

>>95906772
Leakers are not bulletproof. You get the gist. Holding on to Skaventide being a successful box is high grade delusion at this point.

>>95906772
Now show how many Leviathan boxes are still available at a discount

>>95906789
I set the price range to $250 plus to get rulebook and non 40K stuff out. Currently there are two boxes being sold way ABOVE MSRP and that’s it. Reality shows Skaventide flopped and whitefang was wrong.

>>95906772
Ignore everything else the guy has ever said and you may have an argument for your schizophrenia

>>95906814
>argument for your schizophrenia
My only argument is that leakers aren't God and their word isn't accurate all the time. I use Skaventide and whitefang as an example because despite reality clearly showing he was wrong you still have a lot of people regurgitating his incorrect claim about skaventide sales.

>>95906820
Your only argument is that the guy is fallible because despite having been proven right every time you believe he's lying based on your schizophrenic delusions

>>95906772
the stocks that remain unsold on third party stores are not indicative of the stock that has been sold overall, and as far as gw is concerned, it doesn't matter one bit if the third party stores fail to resell the stocks they bought, they still bought

>>95906774
I'm sorry, I'm not very good at conversation topics or conversation in general.

>>95906833
discord literally told me skaventide didn't sell and you expect me to believe some random dude

>>95906834
Holy copium

>>95906848
Did discord also tell you to chop your nuts off

>>95906848
Jeez the personal slights you guys feel when reality doesn't align with your beliefs. You're like a bunch of people crashing out over 2+2 being 4 when your prophet told you it's 5.

>>95906820
>reality clearly showing
do you have an actual number of the boxes that have been sold?

>>95906669
Damn, what even happened to them? I remember they were on of the big "man reads book" makers.

Excuse me, but do any of you have the PDFs of the Battletome of the 3rd Edition of the Dead faction?

I was one of those who believed Warcry was just in hiatus, but im not sure anymore. The Idol of the Old Ones and the Ravening Gnarloak disappeared from the Shop and the Mawpit and some warbands are out of stock for a long time.
A new edición is coming or they are packing everything to close it, thats why the put Warbands in Spearheads now.

>>95907236
It's just a games workshop being a games workshop

>>95907236
>>95907305
Yes it's dead. How many layers of copium can you be on to still think Warcry has a future.

Now that the TOW roleplaying is being rolled out maybe the studio can finally get its shit together and release Champions of Chaos. They announced that shit back in 2022.

>>95907359
Kek I retract my Warcry coper statement, this beats it by a big margin.

>>95904859
>schizo
Yeah man, this is totally a woman. I wasn't even rude about it. Dunno why you're so bent out of shape. As for source, I literally posted that in the comment, learn to read.

>>95907482
>>95904859
And then from her Instagram.

>>95907494
>that jawline
these people only pass from certain angles don't they

>>95907482
>>95904859
And here is the source of them remaking BFG, since you're likely going to screen anyway.

But I don't expect you to reply or apologise so, I'm wasting my time.

>>95907482
>>95907494
ngl in England this is a lot more ambiguous

>>95907503
I don't even know why the guy got so mad. All I said was I believe she was transgender. Instead he gets upset instead of going and looking it up. I don't know why. It wasn't like I was screeching TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY IT'S OVER GW HAS FALLEN. I just posted that she is working on specialist games and GW said they were doing BFG 10 years ago. Which I have proven here >>95907508

>>95907519
where's the source for cinderfall?

>>95907516
Not really, no. I mean, the WD picture they use literally has her beard shadow showing. There is nothing ambiguous about it even 'haha all bongs ugly xD' shitposting.

>>95907529
No idea, I didn't claim it was going to happen. I said 'as far as I know' and it was based on claims elsewhere. If I knew it was happening I would have posted something. Instead I stated that this woman at WD is the specialist team head and is working on several secret projects and one of them is claimed to be what I said.

I'm not obsessed I'm just proving a point by stalking troon's social media!

>>95907542
as far as you know? what's that based on? I think Mosscairn Warcry is more likely if anything?

>>95907547
>I take picture of WD to prove that this person works at WD
>I then type in 'Lelia White Dwarf' and her instagram pops up
>I post a picture
I am not sure what is hard about this, there is no stalking, I am not obsessed. Somebody claimed I was a 'schizo' for mentioning there was a transgender person at WD working on specialist games. I proved them wrong. I assume it is you being upset I proved you wrong, but hey, keep crying I guess.

>>95907554
The old Shadows Over Hammerhal set for Warhammer Quest was based in Cinderfall district, there was mention of warbands fighting for realmstone in Cinderfall in one of the recentish books I forget which. There were a few people claiming on 4chan it was happening as well. So I've just combined those together again into an assumption since Warcry is gone (according to Whitefang iirc).

>>95906269
Fighting off Tyrion's invasion of Ulgu

Is there a white dwarf that has a commentary on the development process for cities of sigmar? Frankly I just wanna learn more about the little demon dudes.

>>95907593
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kI158RMr/cities-of-sigmar-who-or-what-exactly-are-gargoylians/

>>95907593
They had a cycle of articles about CoS redesign on Warcom shortly before the releas, i think you'd find one that talked about gargolins or whatever the "medieval hand copies book doodle" order demons are called

Gargoylians are more a WHF continuity element than something original, really. As far back as Blanche Mordheim fish creatures

>>95907027
https://gofile.io/d/oySkQy

There isn't any good AoS porn
That is why it will fail, all of it is too post-modern, no good classic fantasy cheesecake. We would have busty chaos wenches in loincloths if this were made with any soul

>skaventide flop
>Gitmob flop
>SBGL flop
I don’t feel so good

>>95907893
That all comes from secondaries

>>95907896
and TOW flop too. How can 40k carry so much

>>95908083
40k is simply GOATed. Every other game exists because 40k allows it to exist.

>>95905978
Eh to be fair the 'add one letter now ot's copyrightable' approach they took is a bit ridiculous, there's a reason aelves or orruks get far more shit than duardin. They wanted the recognizability of default fantasy races but wanted to claim it as their own coprightable invention too, it just comes off as lame. It's the one things i will grant grogs.

>>95908237
Not really, Orruk is fine as Orc + Urruk. Aelves is their original name. Ogor and Troggoth are more phonetically appropriate iterations for monstrous races, being guttural approximations.
Duardin is the weird one, as is the corporate naming convention of compounded nouns to avoid any kind of misdirection to something not GW

>>95907792
Are there more examples in fantasy

>>95908335
I dont think duardin is any weirder than dawi. If anything it sounds more formal

>>95908417
Dawi wasn't marketed

>>95908417
duardin doesn't roll off the tongue well
durin does
dawi does
dwarf does

>>95908482
That's because one was made by marketers and the rest by artists

>>95908482
t.not a linguist

>>95908482
You let dwarfs in your mouth?

>>95908482
duardin sounds like an actual proper name

dwarf is a slur

dawi sounds like baby talk

Dwardin

>>95908534
that is how it is pronounced yes

>>95908548
Mawardin.

>>95908534
still doesn't sound good, it's the extra syllable at the end that throws off everything.

>>95908580
Matt-wardin

>>95908580
dwar-din
da-wi

its the same number of syllables as the old name. christ these complaints are autistic as fuck, you're a man looking for a problem where there isnt one

>>95908620
>dwar
these are 2 syllables

>>95908640
no there's just one. dwar.

>>95908674
no, it's two, in that case the w acts as a wovel, which is why you proposed the word as an alternative to duardin, because the pronunciation was the same, and duar is not one syllable

>>95908693
Nta but how the fuck is dwar not one syllable ? 'Dwarf' is a one syllable word for example.
Anyway isn't it pronounced doo-arr-din ? Remember seeing that somewhere official-ish

>>95908693
I'm not the person you're originally responding too. I'm just a guy with a mouth so I know dwar (or duar) are one syllable.

>>95908893
You don't know how your mouth works then.

>looking to buy some prosecutors
>notice 2/3 models in the kit are female

Not today GW.

>>95909180
it's actually 5/5

What cultures are even based around the swamp that kruel boyz can take from? Red necks? Cajuns?

>>95909312
the welsh and scottish, eastern europeans, southeast asia and india, southern usa, south Scandinavia, south america but thats more seraphons shtick

for me i think a mix of southern usa bayou and vietnam jungle fighter is probably the best representation of their culture, though its a british company so of course their accents are british

>>95909180
I still don't understand as those 2 are female models.

>>95909571
The only "feminine" feature is the jaw line.

>>95909571
Women can be ugly, as I’ve unfortunately had the misfortune of discovering into my journey into the mid west.

>>95909435
>india
y'know, this one should have been more obvious to me, but I thinks thats a different kind of swamp...

>>95907882
NAGASH THANKS YOU.

>>95909810
probably because its more tropical, and people associate tropical vegetation less with swamps and more with islands and jungles, but its definitely got a huge swath of swamps, large portions of india are practically submerged for parts of the year

Does anyone know why the Carnosaur in Total War had two different models? I mean, the one we see in the cinematic trailer and the one in the game are not the same.

>>95909887
is one of them the normal carnosaur and the other is kroq gar?

>>95909887
I'm just going to assume the cinematic trailer was outsourced.

>>95909878
Submerged in human feces.

>>95905926
asking again, can you run a Chaos Spawn in the regiment of a Darkoath hero?

>>95909810
wait until you find out that Britain was a rainforest before they cut down all their trees

>>95910145
>>95905926
You can’t, no. If you really wanted to run him you’re best bet would be to proxy it as a fomoroid monster or just use auxiliary’s.

>>95905571
The dragons the lords ride. It's a shitty meme because "normal" people find bestiality "funny".
In reality Longma are just a type of dragon from Chinese myth, so they're more like wyverns for the orcs than a halfbreed like the shugengan.

>>95910170
that's frustrating. They fit the Darkoath lore so well!

What is more likely to happen: a TOTAL WAR AGE OF SIGMAR or a WARHAMMER 40K?

>>95910396
It’s more likely for CA to collapse.

>>95910396
40k is almost certainly happening. AFAIK there's been no desire, chatter or even rumors about them wanting to engage with the AoS IP.

>>95910420
Erm, sorry bud. But it’s Star Wars. The total war rumor was actually the supremacy game.

>>95910438
>But it’s Star Wars.
For the sake of the structural integrity of CA's offices this better not be true

>>95910396
40k is essentially confirmed. But AoS could be an easy asset flip for CA.

>>95910464
I don't think so, most of that stuff isn't in AoS anymore.

If they were doing Total War Sigmar I feel like the easy move is to set it in Ghyran during the War of Life. Make the starter factions Stormcast, Sylvaneth, Nurgle, and some Orruks

Looking for a scan of the GHB that actually has the pages in order and wasn't uploaded by a fucking retard.

>>95910396
Total War AoS would suck. You need unit variety for it to work. Only SCE, SBGL and maybe Seraphon have anything close to what is required.

>>95910537
they made up a lot of units in 1 and 2. i think a sigmar one would be a pretty easy asset flip that they could shit out and abandon just as quick as pharoah

>>95906927
Only because he would break the embargo before all the other content creators.
People only watch him because he was first his analysis was shit and he wouldn't show the pages of the book.
Rob from Hoenst Wargamer immediately does a video from 'leaks' before the embargo and he shows the entire page (dude was a lot of the player testers, and GW staff, drug dealer so he hooks them up). Rob did a better job so people stopped giving a shit about Fathammer

>>95910550
>they made up a lot of units in 1 and 2
Such as?

Is there a rule in the current GHB take says if you are down by 11 you can double and still do battle tactics?

>>95910550
You keep saying asset flip, but they have limited to no assets for like 15 of the factions.

>>95910559
Feral cold ones, skaven dogs, the entire vampire count roster, or at least the fat lady and her summons, probably more but I can’t remember them. Nta btw.

Oh, and I should say, I’d be completely fine with small rosters for an rts game, they all just need to have flavor and be distinct, in warhammer 3 I remember everything being really fucking samey outside of the starting location. Granted that might just be because warhammer 3 fucking lacked so much flavor, and why I think whatever’s getting pushed out of ca now will cause the company to die.

>>95910598
What vampire counts units were made up? You can't count weapon variations.

>>95910613
Coast

>>95910633
Well that's expected for an army that was made up for the game.

>>95910598
>skaven dogs

>>95905815
If you were an offensive native american reference your name would be Fags Outside Reality.

I guess a Total War Age of Sigmar isn't possible, but a game similar to Dawn of War would be possible?

>>95910717
Realms of Ruin was almost that, but the fucking gameplay team dropped the ball trying to appeal to console and PC while also choosing the core loop that they did.

>>95907508
What's the source of that image?

>>95910558
Actual drugs, or just weed?

>>95910396
Ca needs money after the hyena's disaster and 40k would print money. They can bring out a different chapter primaris lieutenant dlc every week and make millions every time.

>>95910719
But Realms of Ruin wasn't a moba style game

>>95910786
Was DoW3 your only DoW?

>>95910813
yes

>>95910820
Thats kinda sad.

Ok, fine, forget about an Age of Sigmar game in the style of Total War and Dawn of War, but would one similar to Starcraft, Warcraft, or Age of Empire be possible?

>>95910872
I’d rather just a battle brothers clone or darkest dungeon for Aos.

>>95910872
The best video game for AoS has always been a Vermintide clone.

>>95910872
Gonna throw a stupid idea out there. AoS Rimworld/DorfFort with a Dawnbringer settlement.

>>95910719
Realms of ruin makes me so sad because it’s almost good, and the campaign is fucking struggling against the bad decisions for its gameplay style to try and create things that’re interesting. You have micro missions and very unique mission objectives/play styles that are cool ideas but are constantly fighting the dogshit simplified DoW3 thing.

The mission that most shows that off is one where you sneak into a Dawnbringer settlement as a couple kruleboyz and have to sabotage it from the inside. It’s a a cool idea, but any time you accidentally get locked into combat with a patrolling unit you have to press the retreat button (the only way to leave combat) and then watch your squishy shaman haul ass in a straight line across the entire map, through all the enemy vision zones and taking a hit or two from each as he Sonic the hedgehog speeds around, so he can reach the starting point of the map and give you control back again. Missions like that just make it so obvious that even the team making it must’ve known the dow3 thing sucks, but the need to appeal to some fake idea of console players prevented them from course correcting

I'd rather hear about you fags sniffing plastic glue than video gayms

Does anyone get aroused while painting Lizardmen?

>>95911196
>GW added super mega rate S*tek Kroxigors so i technically can't get mad for you for posting the retarded ctocodile design

It may be a challenging request but does anyone have all the FAQs and Erratas from the very end of the 1st edition? I'm trying to complete my 1st edition trove and it seems that I only miss those.

>>95911338
Would they not be available through the 1e app? It’s still up and still got everything, afaik

>>95911338
The first edition is bad, forget about it.

>>95911196
No, only when painting Witch Elves

>>95911373
Oh I should have been more clear that I'm looking for PDF files. To my surprise I miss the Core Rules as well. I know that they are included in most books but I remember them being available as a separate PDF as well.

battletome - 2 and 3 edition - pdf - anyone?

>>95911338
Yeah, not happening. GW doesn't host them, sites that do are dead. You'll need to read faq reviews and formulate your own

>>95910653
These guys have sculpted assholes and testicles

>>95911525
yes, and? why would they have sculpted vaginas?

>>95911525
Look and this jelly asshole-and-testicleslet. Look at him and laugh.

>>95911373
Checked it, they are all outdated since the last batch of 1st edition erratas was released in May 2018.
>>95911521
It turns out web archive saved them so I think I have them all now - lucky me.
>>95911381
I remember enjoying it very much. I still preferred 2nd edition core rules but the 1st edition has a special place in my heart.

>>95911562
>>95911581
it's just a weird attention to detail like tauralon/gryphcharger sheaths

>>95911618
>GW made people so used to their poor quality and lack of details that now they find the presence of obvious details "weird"
Grim.

>>95911636
Okay furry

Age of Sigmar had a terrible start but slowly recovered to become the success it is today, so do you think the same could happen with The Old World?

>>95911772
This is a nonsensical sentiment. AoS launched as a new setting/system and expanded naturally as elements were released.
In no scenario was AoS going to launch as a new setting with new armies complete out of the gate.
>muh points
WHFB didn't launch with points.

>>95910464
>Asset flip
I'd say it's half of content from TWW for destruction and some parts od chaos and death
Most of the order stuff would have to be made from scratch
>>95910396
CA has ran out of their fans goodwill and their publishers patience to risk releasing flops with low demand.
40k is the only way to go.

Would you like to see an animated series based on the mini comics of roll models?

>>95911914
No.

Still no sign of the Soulblight PDF? Really just after the PtG section if anyone has it

>>95911923
files dot fm/u/42q8zycmnv

>>95911923
d/NkW07P

Does anyone have the Battletome of the Wild Orcs 1 Edition?

>>95912088
What the fuck are wild orcs?

>>95912133
dem unga bunga greeners

>>95912149
Bonesplitterz is the name you tourist
files dot fm/u/477gg7ewn7

>>95912133
these guys

>>95912154
filename

>>95912160
I hadn't realized that

I wish we kept Ardboys as distinct from Ironjawz proper. If they kept the uncanny military discipline they had until Dawnbringers we could've gotten crossbows, warmachines, etc now they're just midget retard sidekicks

Got the new Spearhead box, so the coffin only is used if you play diagonal deployment and Neffy's tits only if you get the twist on one board side...

>>95912209
>crossbows, warmachines
you got kruleboys for that
>but I don't like kruleboys
then convert your ardboys crossbows and bolt thrower, ya git

>>95912209
Military discipline? That doesn't fit with the Orruks (Ironjaw)

>>95911951
I'm a bit of a dum dum, not sure how to access this

>>95911951
Ignore me, I got it, massive thank you

I never liked the Kruleboys, they seem like they came from Lord of the Rings, not to mention that they replaced the Bonesplitter.

I like the idea of the Ghyran Guard, Stormcast who revere Alarielle as much as SIgmar and are dedicated to her mission of protecting the Realm of Life

But their canon color scheme is so ass

>>95912319
God, stormcasts are so fucking cringe.

Torn between AoS and TOW. Which game do you think will have a brighter future?
There are models and armies I like in both games.

>>95911525
>>95911618
Based

>>95912359
They will both continue to exist for many years. Which one has a bigger community at your local game shops?

>>95912370
Right now AoS and 40k are the dominant games in my area. They also have a Skaventide box on the shelves.
Is it a good pickup for a skaven army?

>>95912241
Yeah, it doesn't

>>95911941
>>95911920
You don't like roll models? Why?

>>95912379
I'd go with AoS then because the community is already there. Skaventide is a great starter for Skaven, especially because it has a Spearhead in it so you can get started with Spearhead games right away

>>95912379
Have you played demo games of both? They have a lot of similarities but enough differences too.

Like >>95912370
Said, which one has a bigger community is normally a good bet, but if they both have a healthy group of regular players it's fine. I play Warcry with a group, it's only 8 odd people but they all turn up every single week so there's always a game to be had.

>>95912381
Meanwhile Ardboys have no musician or banner anymore

>>95912396
>Have you played demo games of both?
I have not, but I’ve watched battle reports and both a friend and I are interested in starting an army for either of them.
>>95912395
Thanks, I’ll look at picking it up.

>>95912359
>There are models and armies I like in both games.
Some armies are present in both

such as chaos undivided, vampires, lizardmen, skaven, goblins
if you pick one of them you should be reasonably capable of making one army and play both systems

>>95912381
Ignore ten years of established lore, AoS only started in 4th edition

>>95912209
Remember when ironjaws didn't stand anyone weaker and less armoured than them but ardboys? and then they got bonesplitters tagging along?

Remember when the now renamed warclans at least didn't stand anyone who was weedy or cowardly? and then they got kruleboys tagging along?

Remember when ironjaws didn't have smiths and simply punched armors into place as a show of strength? and then they got a smith special character?

Remember when warclans at the very least didn't have any filthy weakly goblin leading them? and then they got a hobgrot hero?

>>95912442
Little by little they are becoming their fantasy version

>>95912471
They will never be like their fantasy version until orcs and goblins remain divided

>>95912503
as I said little by little

>>95912503
>>95912599
never?

>>95912624
never

>>95912638
Kruleboyz have grots
Ironjawz will soon

>>95912503
>>95912638
One of the surprises of the 5th edition will be the inclusion of orruks in the grot armies and grots in the orruk armies.

>>95912656
I'll be surprised if GW manages to write a competent ally system for once.

>>95912656
GW is heading towards splitting greenskin factions, not souping them. Ironjawz and Kruelboyz already have two separate indexes.

>>95912699
Orruk Warclans is one battletome with shared terrain and spells

>>95912695
One ally regiment per native regiment works well, points restrictions could work too.

>>95912743
Isn't that already what regiments of renown are?

>>95912736
yes but we're talking about what's more likely in the future

>>95912695
>>95912699
They don't have to be allies, it's enough to say they are slaves or prisoners.

>>95912753
Based on indexes that came out earlier?

>>95912746
Regiments of Renown are preset, rather than take a Warclans regiment in Gloomspite only limited by the inherent restrictions of the hero choice
i.e. currently you can only take a skumdrekk and some Hobgrots or two Big pigs

>>95912442
STOP NOTICING THINGS

>>95912743
>works well
no, it doesn't, it's way too restrictive.

no system of allies will be better than the following:
>you can h

>>95912442
1- brute orruks without armor, bonesplitters are not weak
2-ironjaw-gorko, kruleboys-morko and bonesplitter-gorkamorka
3-it's only one
4-hobgrot-chaos dwarves-5 edition

>>95912896
>you can have as many sub-armies alongside your main army as you want as long as
>-each sub-army follows the normal rules for making a normal small army of that faction
>-the total of all your sub-armies doesn't surpass the total points chosen for the game
>-no sub-army has more points than your main army
>no sub-army belongs to a different grand alliance than your main army

you can keep the regiments of renown system for handling cross-alliances things like mercenaries, if anything

>>95912359
Both games are not going anywhere. They play very differently. Before looking into armies that potentially interest you, watch some battle reports from both games on youtube and see which on the surface appeals to you more. Then look into more niche things like listbuilding and only after look at armies in detail.

>>95912319
I like astral templars, for the exception of the blue cloth. But I haven't figured out which other color to replace it with

Anyone ever tried high point games in 4th ed ? I'm talking 3-5k pts

>>95912920
Chaos Dwarves - 5th Edition - 100% True - Don't Deny It

>>95913003
My money is on GW dropping them in 4th. Right after Cathay hype train.
Rumor has it their book is going to be as unbalanced as 3rd ed Bonereapers

>>95912996
I’ve heard 3k feels really fun and takes a similar amount of time to run with the added benefit of having enough list space for pet units.

>>95913016
any rumor about rules that pops up more than 2 weeks before the preorders is pure delusions, rumors like that simply don't happen

>>95912653
its fucking criminal that most armies dont have options for cheap small units, at least let me add some grots from kruleboyz or something god damn

>>95913016
5th Edition - New and improved Chaos Dwarves, completely different from their Fantasy counterparts. For example, they are a race of automaton robots.

6th Edition - The Shadow Guard. They are dark aelves in the service of Malerion.

7th Edition - The Iron Giants. Gargants with armor and firearms (cannons).

8th Edition - The Immortal Chaku-Teku Legions. They are mummies with Inca and Aztec themes.

>>95913111
>New and improved Chaos Dwarves
these are happening within this year
>Dark aelves in the service of Malerion
these are for the end of the edition

>Gargants with armor and firearms
>mummies with Inca and Aztec themes
never ever

>>95913111
Major changes coming in 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th editions.

1. Steampunk robot units will be included for Kharadrons and Cities of Sigmar.

2. The Daughters of Khaine will no longer be their own faction and will be included in Malerion's new army.

3. The Grots will begin to industrialize and will incorporate firearms into their armies.

4. The Seraphons will no longer resemble their fantasy counterparts and will become more like the Protoss from Starcraft.

Is it an unreasonable position to think that GW should just expand out all the micro factions instead of constantly adding new armies for everyone to chase?

>>95913271
I mean they've slowed way down on new armies regardless. The only new armies we've gotten since 2E are Kruelboyz (debatable) and soon Chorfs.

>>95913300
Oh and Cities I guess, a weird case of being around for ages but not getting an actual new range until late 3E.

>>95913252
>Steampunk robot units will be included
happening for kharadron, but not cities

>khainites will no longer be on their own
cemented at the end of this edition

>The Seraphons will no longer resemble their fantasy counterparts
never

>>95913300
>>95913304
Cities of Chaos: Cities of Sigmar that fell and now serve the Dark Gods

>>95913271
they have decided to do both by making the expansions subfactions themselves

>>95913252
Things that will happen in the near or distant future.

1 - A Stormcast legion will be corrupted by the Dark Gods.

2 - The wedding of Tyrion and Morathi.

3 - The liberation of Slanesh and the total annihilation of the Lumineth.

4 - The inclusion of female Orruks and Grots and the addition of genitals to the latter.

5 - The arrival of the Ancients and the revelation that Fantasy and Age of Sigmar take place in the same 40K universe, only billions of years in the future.

>>95913419
>1 -
no
>2 -
no
>3 -
the liberation of slaanesh will happen but lumineth are safe
>4 -
no
>5 -
that's already canon

>>95909571
>chaos warrior female looks like a roid raged dyke
>chaos sorcerer female looks like a methhead
What exactly is the problem?

>>95909571
>>95909600
Yeah, I don't care my man. Why do you? Post your models

>>95914975
nta, but imma post my WIP of that same warband. I haven't been able to paint for a while due to exams but hoping I can get back to it soon

>>95914975
>>95914993
whoops wrong pic

>>95914975
>>95914999

>>95914975
>identify yourself to the thread
fuck off back to r*ddit

>>95915026
>he doesn’t have models

>>95915026
>complains about models
>has no models
Shocker

Someone make a new thread, I’m at work.

Thought I'd go and take my mini of the month out to town.

>>95915574
>>95915955

>>95913111
No 8th edition because GW will endtimes the setting again