Bruhh how did this tumblrslop star wars rip-off get funded

>>95921288 (OP)
Why are you advertising for it?

973 people thought it was worth backing. That's all it takes. Looks like an average backing of 63-ish dollars, which sounds like a hardcover book and shipping to me.

>>95921288 (OP)
Who cares? I’ve never heard of it, and once this thread is dead I’ll never see it again.

>>95921288 (OP)

>bitches about games they don't like

>refuses to be the change they want to see in the world

>>95921967
>hey guys here's my lewd naked elf thots on ugly fat human men femdom game
>how strange I keep being deplatformed

>>95921998
You've never been deplatformed for anything in your life.

>>95922005
Not true. He fell off his bed once.

>>95921288 (OP)
Nothing in that book can be as contemptible as using "bruh."

>>95921998
Holy Race War rpg managed to get published, what's your excuse.

>star wars rip-off
Seems a silly thing to complain about when Star Wars is a big ball of rip-offs and homages itself.

>>95921288 (OP)
looks like shit, but if people want to play it I don't get why should we get triggered about that.
It's not like they'll force you to play it only because it got funded.

>>95921288 (OP)
Little under a thousand people forked over about $63 to make it happen. You could do the same. We could all do the same. But that would take valuable time out of our non-productive bitching about people liking what we don't like, so here we are.

>>95921288 (OP)
So how does it play?

Because even though certain fa/tg/uys spend endless hours bitching about theaterfags and tumblr/twitter people ruining the hobby, they do actually make, purchase, and play games.

>>95921288 (OP)
How did this topic impact your last game night? Be detailed and specific

>>95923509
>Galactic and Going Rogue use the Belonging Outside Belonging system designed by Avery Alder and Benjamin Rosenbaum for their games Dream Askew / Dream Apart— also used by other popular TTRPGs like Jay Dragon's Wanderhome—with new mechanical innovations by Rethal and Levine.

>In it, players each select a PLAYBOOK, a collection of unique aesthetics, relationships, backstory, and moves. Vulnerable moves demonstrate your characters flaws, while strong moves highlight their strengths—the all new lateral moves, meanwhile, reward other characters for playing into your playbook's narrative. Lateral and vulnerable moves gain tokens for your characters, setting you up to spend them on heroic strong moves.

>Each game also includes PILLARS that represent important aspects of your game's setting. In an all-new Galactic & Going Rogue innovation, pillars now have their own tokens, which they gain or give to players through moves that any player can make on the pillar's behalf. Pillars are shaped by desires that players choose collectively during character creation. Together with traits that grant moves to NPCs, and random tables that generate places, pillar moves and desires guide players in simulating the game world, removing the need for a GM.

>>95921288 (OP)
>how did this tumblrslop star wars rip-off
They aren't exactly hiding that fact. And the fact that these are the third editions of the rules indicates that they both already had the material written and that they had an extant, if niche, community already present to support the game.
>get funded
By having a funding goal of only $10,000. That's less than my tax refund was this year. Hell, I'm pretty sure that's less than I've spent commissioning art for my D&D games over the years.

>>95924035
>you have to RP in a certain way to gain good boy points to be allowed to RP in another way

read like shit honestly

>>95924035
High Jap energy.

>>95924142
Honestly, I don't think I fully understand systems like this. My friend REALLY wants to run that Avatar game soon, but I find this stuff so weird to get used to. In most games, you just have your character act the way that feels right in the situation. You try to talk your way out of a fight, and you either succeed or you don't. Now I have to spend a resource to call out a character on hypocrisy? What?

I sorta see what they're going for? But if anything, I think this heavily restricts storytelling. I'm really curious to hear from Anons who vibe with this though.

>>95924142
I mean, you get to choose on the character creation what the "certain way" is, so why would you complain?

>>95924142
Ya all getting together trying to reenact some kinda drama together is the point. You get to pick your drama and you even get to pick with whom you have beef and drama. The fun is in how it'll unfold, one would assume.

>>95924035

>Belonging Outside Belonging

So it's not even a game, it's just an improv setting with no teeth.

>>95924035
>Belonging Outside Belonging system
Stopped reading there. Hate that faggy shit system and everyone who makes garbage for it.

>>95921303
Every online space, including /tg/, is full of people who embrace slop just because their political boogeyman hates it, and marketing like this is engineered to get the word out to them. Ragebait has proven to be a very powerful advertising tool.

>>95921288 (OP)
Apparently by being extremely cheap to produce so it took less than 1k backers

Nothing will come of it and no one will remember it existed in 3 years

>>95924035
>(((Rosenbaum)))

>>95925009
TTRPGs are dirt cheap to produce on a whole. That's why crowdfunding is so popular lately, it covers a huge portion of the expenses. Hell, if you use one of these dime-a-dozen non-game engines like PbTA or guess "Belonging Outside Belonging" you hardly have to do any playtesting at all.

>>95923670

In a pure moment of screaming into the void, this is what people get wrong with "well just vote with your wallet" when confronted with this kind of shit.

The issue is that you have to buy shit you like, not just don't buy shit you don't like, because the corporate overlords only follow actual purchases. Like, if you go "I don't wanna buy this woke-cuck shit, I don't want to spend money on it," that's not enough because the powers that be will go "oh, there's no market for TTRPGs" instead of "nobody wants to buy Polycule Disagreement Resolution Simulator the TTRPG" and instead of getting the opposite, you get nothing at all.

>>95926092
>Polycule Disagreement Resolution Simulator the TTRPG
literally Maid

>>95925035
There's an endless pool of out-of-work or under-employed artists, layout designers, and freelance writers who will take whatever the can get. That's why this pile of low-effort bullshit can have nearly 3 dozen people working on the project, despite the system itself being a barebones, borderline freeform system made specifically for indiefags who hate that game design requires them to be able to understand and design games.

>>95921288 (OP)
>bruh

>>95924174
Nah I feel the same way, and I'm actually a fan of these systems in theory. If they have a mechanical benefit, eg Calling Out Hypocrisy is different to just calling out hypocrisy (it gets you +1 feelsies refreshed or whatever) then sure. Instant stealth works for that. Retcon items/info - sure. But why would I spend a token to commit to my principles if I could just... Do that anyway? A lot of narrative games do that, where it's just "ask the GM a question about something", like it's a privilege, when the entire self-professed point of the game is communication. And it irks me. Maybe I'm missing something, but it just seems like shoddy design from people who don't actually play games for the game part.

>>95927218
>when the entire self-professed point of the game is communication.
Do you even comprehend where you are?

>>95924271
It's also not just because the enemy hates it but because the enemy is extremely annoying complaining about it. I @grok all the time for (you)s. Have never needed or wanted to read what the chatbot said except when desperately bored waiting for laundry to dry or something.

>>95924035
>Belonging Outside Belonging
>Dream Askew / Dream Apart
Just for those names they should be fed through a chipper.

>>95921288 (OP)
How easy is it to get stuff funded on Kickstarter? I've got a mostly finished product but I am hyper autistic and too scared to talk about my game to strangers.

>>95927845
Image goes hard.

It's not difficult at all, but you do unfortunately need one thing: marketing. Pretty much all TTRPG kickstarters that get successfully funded reach their goal in an hour, or 12 tops, because they get advertised via some indie publisher's newsletter.

Now throwing your lot in with one of said publishers probably isn't the hardest thing to do either, you just hit up their business email and pitch your product. But you know, that comes with the usual strings attached. Also your "finished product" will probably have to go through a dozen more hands to make sure it's marketable.

>>95927845
It's more about connections and online presence in specific communities. Having 30+ people who all have different crowds of a few thousand followers each all promoting the project because they are getting paid to work on it is how you amass that 1000 or so donors chipping in a reasonable 50 bucks or so to get the thing funded.

Unless you've got a really good hook, presented with a slick trailer with a strong hook that's guaranteed to get people to stop and listen, running in without connections to help hype the project for you won't get you anywhere.

>>95921288 (OP)
Daggerheart audience also buy stupid shit. They vote with their wallet. /tg/ supports by pirating first, maybe buying later

>>95921288 (OP)
Because they buy games, unlike you who only spends money on superchats to streamers bitching about games they don't like

>>95926283
Nope. MAID is strictly 1-to-n and not all relations are romantic.

>>95921288 (OP)
Money laundry.

>>95929043
>52346234524563346 people have bought our premium digital package for 75$ each.
I can see it. Makes you wonder if anybody is already offering it as a service.

>>95927926
>stupid people throw away their money
>smart people are cautious what they spend on

>>95929201
>I wait for what I like to fail so I can complain "why"they don't do stuff like this anymore?" later

>>95921288 (OP)
What is this fucking atrocious blob face sidecut artstyle

>>95927226
What does that have to do with anything?

>>95921288 (OP)
>Ragebait astroturfing
Find a better job, mate

>>95921288 (OP)
Simple - people are hungry for Star Wars content handled by literally anyone but Disney.

>>95928565
>MAID is strictly 1-to-n
Inaccurate. Butler is half-way between another PC and co-GM. And while not all MAID games use butler role, it can be 1.5-to n.

>>95923177
i cannot glow hard enough

>>95924035
I wasn't aware you could make PbtA worse.

>>95930948
PDF sales are a good way to launder money, as that other Anon pointed out. You just have to find people who want to launder cash - Crypto rug pullers probably would be decent targets here.

You can get your book made and help somebody make fake money real.

>>95921303
fpbp

>>95929692
You're arguing like a faggot on behalf of mindless consumerism to try and "own the libs" which is utterly retarded.

>>95931479
If you don't support what you like you don't get to be angry at people who do.

>>95927926
>/tg/ supports by pirating first, maybe buying later
I'm a wargamer, but yes. Nothing wrong with it. Unless I have absolute faith in a writer I will be getting a pirated copy to read through the rules before I decide on a purchase. Somebody lucky enough to live near a good game store can walk in and flick through a book before buying, piracy evens the field. There's stuff I've bought that I wouldn't have done without the confidence of reading the rules first.

>>95931534
You're missing the point, but you're clearly a retarded consoomer who thinks buying shit because you believe the creator ostensibly has the same politics as you is a form of activism.

>>95931743
NTA, but if the left has the staying power it does because they embraced the pup culture market as a cultural education platform. Until mass media is wiped out by a solar flare, it is their greatest weapon and why they will be around no matter how retarded they are. Cultures aren't built off of what works or doesn't, what's the best or worst, just what can spread.

>>95931839
That only makes sense if you believe that the media, the entertainment industry, and large swaths of the government were conquered by better ideas and more convincing advertising, rather than the truth, which is that nepotism, cronyism, and in-group preference led them to push things they all agreed on, regardless of quality, hire people who believed those things, and shut out people who reject those beliefs.

Which is how we ended up with the biggest movie studios and multimedia companies in the world burning billions of dollars on shit that most people don't want, and the people who do say they want it only do so because of the symbolic culture war value they see in having their ideology preached from the big screen.

>>95932017
There's not a single point in time the majority of things produced are good, Sturgeon's law exist for a reason regardless of any rose tinted glasses you may have.
The more ttrpg are produced, the bigger the chance for something you do like to pop up and for WotC to lose the iron grab they have on the market.

>>95932200
You're arguing against things that weren't said.

>>95924035
...Not going to lie, this looks rather underwhelming, and "reward other characters for playing into your playbook's narrative" just makes me miss running Tenra Bansho Zero with my friends.

>>95932017
Then go make something that's not second rate. If there were some group of wealthy BASED nerds you could have your own little clique, and if there were BASED nerds they might even buy your BASED rpg.

The reality as we've learned through the last decade of nerd culture war is that ANTI-WOKE and BASED nerds aren't actually interested in buying things made by /ourguys/, they're just interested in superchatting youtubers that complain about it and buying the mainstream thing.

>>95932299
Do you even have a clear idea of what you're upset about, or are you just tilting at windmills over what you think is being said? Because the amount of "ANTI WOKE" games that have come and gone as extremely limited in number. Giantlands is the only one to come to mind and that was literally made by a con-artist trying to use the Gygax and TSR names to fund a series of themeparks. The various anti-woke cartoons and comics that have come and gone were likewise opportunistic, more trying to exploit a community than genuinely embodying some real, concrete ideology.

>>95933005
You think that there's some conspiracy for why everything is tabletop land faggy. The BASED audience doesn't buy games. And the BASED creators like nu-TSR are incompetents and hacks that should be gatekept away from projects.

There's no point in catering to people that don't buy things catered to them, or collaborating with people that will sink your project because they're retards. That's why everything is faggy. Because soijaks aren't broke and buy things - unlike the BASED nerds, and because the people that can actually create a successful project are faggy themselves.

>>95933145
The "BASED" audience doesn't exist. Those are just more culture warriors who think they can reclaim a hobby that they were never interested in as an imaginary battlefield. What people want is not to be pandered to with tryhard faggotry that defines itself by whining about the things it hates. They want games that focus on the hobby first, and exclude the cancerous bullshit. That's what really matters; the hobby itself. There's a dozen games full of pronouns and screeds about the evils and capitalism and fighting ill-defined fascism released every week. Even the ones that make some money never go far, and most importantly, never get played.

60k for some faggy overblown diceless freeform roleplay books sounds like a lot until you realize that they're splitting that between 30 people and 3 print runs and any other bonus bullshit they've made the mistake of adding in. Months of labor will net each contributor less than a thousand dollars, if they're lucky. By the time they ship the books, most backers will have forgotten they backed it. When they arrive, they'll be thumbed through once, and then put on a shelf to gather dust. Their overwhelming victory will amount to nothing and any supposed dominance you feel they've earned by having retards throw away their time and money on such a project will evaporate like a fart in the wind.

>>95933233
stop gaslighting

>>95933233
Not to mention that while the audience might not describe itself as BASED, they know what they don't like.
I will never buy a game with fat, neurotypical lesbians as protagonists. If a game stops giving me what I want, I will disengage. Audiences WILL give products bad reviews and withdraw their support, and buy things they actually like.
See: Stellar Blade versus Concord.
A major advantage they have is that being BASED is the natural state of man. Being a Lib is asking people to go against every natural instinct they have.
It is natural to want to fuck big booba women and kill orcs.
It is not natural to chop off your penis and get your black orc boyfriend to pozz your neghole.
This is why the Democrat party lost the 'young white man' vote, they can offer shame and shame has lost its value in society.
Meanwhile, foreign markets don't want ' to be blunt - retarded fag shit. You think the millions-strong male Chinese population (and their government) care about wokeness? It's literally a punchline to them.

>>95941139
You're confusing "natural" with "most common", jsyk. Not to say that as a gotcha, but it would make your argument look less retarded if you said what you meant.