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Do you think you guys could go an entire thread without arguing about stupid shit? Would we all die of boredom? What exactly is the real hobby here?

>>95937886 (OP)
xth for lacerda, lopiano, and knizia should team up to create a board game

>make the mistake of looking at BGG user ratings for a game
>"I think this game is an X/10, which is why I'm rating it higher/lower than what I just said I think it deserves to try to pull the average rating in that direction"

>>95937886 (OP)
I WILL argue over stupid shit like the definition of a sub-mechanic in a game noone really likes, what trend is currently ruining boardgaming, what kind of randomness is good/bad and in how many ways OP is a faggot. In fact, I'll start right now:

>>95938032
>"Rating this a 10/10 to counteract the haters"
>There are no 1/10s (anymore)
I wonder why sometimes there is an intervention because of review bombing yet I have never seen votes getting removed from an unreleased game with a massive overrepresentation of 10/10s of 2 day old accounts.

Currently finishing the gym session later I'll blogpost about how the first fcm game went (like shit)

>>95938267
I'm gonna go ahead and guess you didn't use Hard Choices.

>>95937931
i want a design team of Feld, Kramer, Kiesling, Lopiano, and Knizia

>>95938233
>There are no 1/10s (anymore)
It's interesting you say that. I've been going over the bgg scores for the games I own recently and noticed almost all have been trending upwards since I got them.
I remember anons here used to say a score "over 7 after 5 years" is an indicator for a game being good. I have notcied TI4, which I recall being somewhere in the high 7s for a while, is now an 8.6. I haven't looked into it, but you're saying there was a mass culling of 1s makes a lot of sense.
I've never relied on bgg for scores, but is interesting to see this shift. I thought maybe I was just mistaken.

I don't know why, but I prefer watch it played tutorial videos over any other that are purely tutorial with no playthrough attached to it
Just wish he'd make way more tutorials for games

>>95929719
Didn't play it yet, but I'm sure it was unjustly shadowed by the huge success (and marketing) that White Castle had, being both released almost simultaneously by DEVIR

>>95938478
To be clear, I don't think there's been a mass culling across the board. I mean, the gulag is, for all its influence, relatively small compared to other hobby sites and a company giving them a bit of money for a higher rating doesn't seem completely out of the question but I still maintain that people in the hobby are very much in it because they like games and there's too little money to be made via corruption.

Why the ratings tend to go up I have no idea. Maybe some kind of mob mentality/confirmation bias? Yeah I've played brass and it was pretty good, so I guess it really is a 10/10 and so on. Pretty weak argument tbqh but I can't think of much else

Lang and Tascini linked up. Need it or keep it?

>>95938515
Rodney is just THAT based

>>95938362
Yep. Me and my gf had a 100+100 game mainly to learn the rules. The issue was she went for the trainer opening so she had a functioning restaurant while I went for the recruiting girls and I forgot I can't put managers under other managers so I ended with 6 people chilling at the beach. It resulted in not that many interactions because I was stuck trying to unfuck my situation and then the game was over with not that much happening

Anyone here know of any reason why I shouldn't pre-order Stonemier's upcoming game 'Vantage'? It seems like an interesting take on a exploration/story game with a healthy dose of 'choose-your-own-adventure' style gameplay.

>>95939186
P500 Away Team: The Voyages of the Pandora instead

>>95939186
Smegmayer is a retard and his games reek of low effort on design side but high production value. Buy only for the artwork.

>>95937931
>>95938432
why does bgg suddenly like Lopiano? Did he make any stand out games? I feel like his games are just OK. Fun guy though, I played with him at a game night once. Had 3RC and played it a couple times then sold it back at the same price i paid for it (it was on sale).
Still, in my opinion he's nowhere near the level of the other designers you guys mentioned

>>95939238
>GMTrash
...I guess now that you say it I can see the overlap in the two audiences. If you don't care if your boardgame plays like shit, either Stonemeier of GMT would work.

>>95939403
Like clockwork.

>>95939432
Timely and correct? Yes, I think I am.

This game looks fun but I already know I'm not going to be able to talk any of my friends into playing it with me.

Played Root for the first time over the weekend with only 2 players. I as the Marquis lost to the Eyrie. Fun with cute art. I bought the clockwork when I bought the base game so I’ll introduce that to my partner after we play a couple more base games.

>>95939314
i'm very impressed by Calimala and Shackleton Base. it seems like he really values interaction in play and entangled board states, and he manages to uphold those tenants while incorporating some of the parts of newros that I enjoy. I think he would be an interesting source of fresh blood in the group I listed. I agree he's not at the same level as the other guys; I've just been enjoying his stuff lately.
hoping to try Sankoré at some point, and wouldn't turn down a chance to try some of his other titles

Aww shit Caverna digital was released. Time to play 1000 solo games so I can dab on BGA trannies

>>95939314
I liked Zapotec, Shackleton Base, Merv and been looking to bet Calimala, Sankore and 3 Ring Circus.

His designs have fun ideas, interaction is very valuable for him and points feel earned, not gifted by luck.

>>95939510
The issue with root is you're playing dune but with everyone doing some kind of retarded minigame to score points so you're not actually learning how to play the board but how to fullfil your scripted win condition

>>95939456
More like seething and malding.

>>95939186
No-one here will have a good reason you shouldn't order this game, but you'll be drinking (you)s from the firehose anyway.

>>95939186
Yes, there is absolutely zero reason to ever preorder anything. Just wait for retail release and some lets play videos and/or reviews.

>>95939186
You should buy and later post about vantage so i can learn if i need to update picrel

Speaking of GMTrash, was anyone suicidal enough to play this?
>playtime: 6000 mins

>>95939403
>blithely shitting on a Butterfield joint
never grow up, kid, you've brought me a lot of joy over the years

>>95939897
Keep coping bitch nigga.
>>95940054
Not like you can do anything about it, gramps. Keep shilling your discount Tales of Arabian Nights somewhere else.

>>95941084
I recognize top left and top right. I can't put a name to bottom right but I recognize the face.

What if Rahdo made a game?

>>95941185
If Rahdo made a game then Rahdo would get one of the rules of Rahdo's game wrong while making a review video.

>>95938032
BGG scores are shit anyway. Most BGG users are both shit at games in general and also CONSOOM. This means that any objectively challenging game or game with emergent gameplay will get horrible scores (and even worse if it doesn't look "glossy").
>Dune 2019 has a 7.9

>>95941429
(add.)
The only good thing about BGG is that it's an old-school type forum, although fewer and fewer people use this feature anymore.

>>95940217
where's the GMT hate come from. please provide a substantive argument. what game has wronged you?

>>95941445
I assume it is one very loud anon

>>95941185
If Rahdo made a game then he would start the rulebook by saying all the rules of the game were invented by Jen.

>>95941678
who and who

>>95941695
Rahdo is an internet celebrity famous for his YouTube channel where he discusses why his wife Jen dislikes games

>>95939717
>>95939823
Ohh I wasn't aware he made Shackleton. Haven't tried it but heard many good things about it
3RC and Merv were kind of forgettable, albeit enjoyable
I'll also look into Calimala though, might be interesting
>>95938660
What? Is this a meme or real? I'm not in the loop, what game are they working on?
>>95939461
What kind of game is it?

>>95941084
I only recognize Knizia and only because I met him in person.

>>95941740
>What kind of game is it?
Cube pushing with some worker placement and a tiny twinge of tableau building.

>>95941084
>>95941749
I recognize the Big Kniz, Wehrle, and Garfield.

>>95941740
Shackleton is him and Mangone, whom I also quite like as the world's biggest Stupor Mundi fan
Calimala is probably the most /bgg/ core of any of either of their respective designs though, from what i can tell of the ones i've yet to try

>>95941785
Bottom right is Lang.
No idea who top mid is. I've seen bottom mid posted here before, don't remember what context, I think some GMT/wargame.

>>95942036
ah yeah it's Volko of I guess coin games fame

>>95925395
Haven't gotten to try out the two-lane map yet, but 3v3 is much better than 2v2.
Don't think I've found a favorite hero yet. I kind of like Tali, she feels strong and quite flexible, but her gimmick of her silver is kind of dumb and time-consuming, as long as you don't play with a retard they can just take the time to figure it out.
Razzle seems pretty fun, but probably a good while until I get to try her.

Would Steam: Rails to riches (by Martin Wallace) be a good, cheaper alternative to Age of Steam and Railways of the World? Found a copy for 20 euro, and there are several many others on the geekmarket; Usually when there are so many copies on the second hand market it means the game is not as good, any opinions?

>>95941084
I'll solve. From left to right, top first:
Knizia, lacerda (atleast my brain says so), wehrle, garfield, ruhnke and lang

>>95942355
It's not a bad substitute, it's largely the same as Age of Steam, and you could make the argument that the changes are for the better depending on your preferences.

>>95939877
The faction role training wheels in root help, when you have no idea what the fuck you're supposed to do in dune.

A 10+ hr game of dune with 10 new players (and the one who pushed it used atomics on a sheild) where most is the auction phase, is far less fun than 3hr game of root with 4 new players.

A ???hr game of dune with ??? learned players is ??? probably better than a 3hr game of root with learned players??? But who the fuck has a group willing to do multiple runs of dune. Even if you have a willing that would take a few years to get there.

Am I weird for liking both?

>play simple game
>love the shit out of it
>can't show my face on /bgg/ in shame

>>95942412
Dune with 4 players is already better, in root you simply have to convince the others you're not winning while you assemble your vp wincon

>>95942412
Well I wouldn't play a game of Dune with 10 new players

>>95942430
No shame in enjoying a game. I just find lighter/smallbox games harder to really love. I like or find them ok, but I love only precious few of them

>>95942490
But its a 10 player game

Any recommendation for a pocket-sized dungeon crawler for 2 players but with a single player variant as well? I want something small that takes very little space and can be played in 30min or less. Can be print and play.

>>95942718
Mini Rogue

>>95941185
Bubsy 3D the board game

>>95942718
One Deck Dungeon

>>95941749
Oh sweet. Did you get a photo with him, or get one of your games autographed? What was he like (The Bill Murray Copypasta doesn't count)

Okay lads, I want a solo game about hunting monsters, what are the most fun ones? Print and play would be ace, but I can adapt.

>>95942430
Sure you can, this is a Knizia board now. Modern euros are out, family games are in.

>>95942430
Pretty much all of us have nothing against simple games, heavy euro chads included.

>>95944043
ehhh a few years ago you couldn't even discuss them, there would have been so much ridicule they'd run you off rather than let you talk

>>95942355
All Wallace train games that I've played have 95% of the same DNA, and off the top of my head I think you can just play AoS with a copy of Steam if you really want to. Do it.
>>95942468
4p Dune is awful, it's mogged by Smallworld at anything less than 6
>>95942841
I asked him to autograph my copy of Zombiecide white death, and he put the whole thing in his mouth! He said it was to prevent infetterance, which I'm pretty sure is not a word!

>>95942718
It's a solo game but take a look at Gloomhaven Buttons and Bugs
>>95943195
Primal the awakening

>>95943195
Witcher old world

>>95942718
Rogue dungeon

I caved in.

>>95944998
>AR
>AI SLOP
ugh.

>>95944998
>57 euros for sleeves
To think I used to respect this general's opinions in the past

>>95945102
Not that anon but good quality sleeves are like $4-5 for a pack of 50. For 1600 cards you're talking upwards of $120.

>>95944998
What brings someone to give money to awaken realms...?
Could've gotten 3-4 good games with that amount

>>95944998
>150 eurobux for soullless AI trash
>50 immigrantbrux for sleeves in a game where you barely touch the cards
kek, even lmao

>>95944998
>173 Eurobux + shipping + tip + tariffs for Ai-gricola
Lmaooooo

>>95945166
>1600 cards
You're not making his choice sound any better if that's what you were going for.

>>95945382
>tariffs
That's a burger problem.

Is snapship tactics actually a fun game?

>>95944998
You plummeted, more like.

>>95944998
>caved in
No you didn't, but you should have.

>>95945568

Speaking of crowdfunding I'm still waiting for the Principes guy to finish his stupid cycling trip and open up late pledges.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wildhuntstudios/wild-hunt-festival-chronicles/description
Kickstarter campaign for Wild Hunt Festival open.

This is a Hong Kong/Japanese (all of their social media is in Japanese including their website) JRPG style 1-4 player raid style board game. A combination of dice based combat and skills you can activate from your tableau using a resource system. You will level up and upgrade your characters as you progress.

The original version came out 3 years ago and this is a remake including new expansion content. I backed the original and it came out mostly fine except for this one stretch goal reward that got messed up but they've since then apologized and made reparations for it. So if you're interested in an anime jrpg style boardgame give it a look.

>>95947235
F off with this pdf jap slop

>>95945511
I’d say it’s a fun toy.

>>95947235
go shill somewhere else

>>95947235
While you're on the topic of random Japanese games no one has ever heard of what exactly is the difference between Grim Reaper and Langfinger?

>>95947981
>Langfinger
I hate Japs' obsession with putting random normal German words in their shit.

>>95944998
I could at least partially respect wanting a complete box but
>Buying an AR product
>Buying official sleeves for €55
>Buying the absolutely irrelevant 5+6p expansion
>AI art at full price

I think "my mental illness got the better of me" would be a more apt description

>>95945623
I ultimately loved the art, then read the rules and midway through it realized the game is very meh with random swings everywhere.

Point being, play it first

>2025
>I am forgotten

>>95948470
does she sit on it

>>95948480
Pretty sure there was a small boardgamewire article back in the day about it. She caused some minor confusion when she complained to the spiel jury that "Nothing was hatching"

Just played a practice game of FCM on onlineboardgamers with sushi, I sold sushi to a house that had burger demand, and did not get the 'first burger sold' milestone, which left me perplexed, so I looked it up and according to the bgg forums sushi and noodles do not count as having sold that particular food for the purpose of milestones, and the rulebook says "Sushi count as food for the purpose of milestones; they can be stored in a fridge", same for noodles. But experienced players I know have always treated it as burger/pizza for milestones.
Can anyone here enlighten me?
The thing that strikes me odd is that it can replace both food and drinks, but according to my friends noodle/sushi can trigger burger/pizza milestone but not lemonade/coke/beer which sounds nonsensical to me
They even said they emailed the authors about it and that they told them they're right but i suspect they only said that to drop the subject

>>95948470
i haven't heard a thing about Finspan since it came out

>>95948118
That's the German name. Grim Reaper is the Japanese version.

>>95948723
Your friends are liars, and probably not by choice, but by accidental mass delusion. Selling burgers counts as selling burgers, selling not burgers does not count as selling burgers. Simple as.

>>95948723
>the rulebook says "Sushi count as food for the purpose of milestones; they can be stored in a fridge",
That's worded for future-proofing but the only milestones it matters for are "First to throw away drink/food" (both to get the milestone and to benefit from it) and "First beer sold" (only relevant for the benefit).

>>95948470
Good riddance. The explosion of nature themed and anthropomorphic games over the last 5 years has squeezed out pretty much all of the excitement for me for new games.

>>95950299
Good. If you can't look past a theme to enjoy the board game underneath it, you don't belong here and should burn out on the hobby ASAP.

>>95948315
Doesn't seem any more swingy than a turn in El Grande to me.

>>95950346
>If you can't enjoy spamming eggs in these 3 games, regardless of the birds, dragons, or fish, then you're the problem.

Get fucked.

>>95938032
The site proactively spams a bunch of 5/10 ratings on games that are popular to "counteract the flooding of 10s and 1s". A dumb idea really because it also skews the average game towards a mediocre score when it might be a well received game or an absolute shit game.

You really gotta read reviews or find a reviewer you vibe with.

>>95950682
Not that anon but you're kind of moving goalposts, in >>95950299 you're just whining about >nature themed and anthropomorphic games
not >spam eggs in --span games
So yes the other anon is right, if you can't look past the theme then maybe modern AAA videogames are more your speed

>>95950829
NTA but there are some games I will never touch because of the theme, Thirsty Sword Lesbians is a prime example. I know that game will be shit (to me, personally) by the theme alone. My "theme tolerance" level is pretty high compared to most with pretty much the only thing getting an immediate "no" is stuff that was designed with political correctness or extreme lefty ideals as a MAIN selling point. For example there was a Sci-fi game that was about afro centralism whose whole schtick was Africa becoming super advanced because European colonization didn't happen and it treats colonization as a great evil. Then the SAME fucking game has the afrocentric culture COLONIZING other planets and it's viewed as a good thing. That is so fundamentally stupid I am glad it died right out the gate.

More to the point, those games nearly universally push "the message" over having a good game design. This has been true in table top and vidya. A game can have that kind of stuff in it without being THE focal point and I will give it a fair shake. Oddly, the theming can be indecent, violent, silly, serious, apolitically retarded, and so forth and I will give it a fair shake. Pretty much the only "nope" theming is the turbo-lefty and cashing in on current events shit because both reek of shit mechanics before touching the game.

>>95951074
>Thirsty Sword Lesbians
Oh?
>TTRPG
Oh.

>>95937886 (OP)
What are some good boardgames for upside down pineapple party meetings?

I need simple filler. What’s everyone’s favorite filler that plays more than 4?

>>95951098
>upside down pineapple party meetings
???
To answer your question:
>Coloretto
>Between Two Cities
>Coup
>No Thanks!

>>95951074
Why are you talking about a roleplaying game, "theme" (worldbuilding, in this case) is alot more important in TTRPGs compared to board games
So far I haven't seen a single boardgame that pushed leftism or other political ideals that blatantly and heavily and that didn't instantly flop. Only thing that comes close is the recent censoring of colonialism in some games (see Puerto rico 1897 or whatever) but even in these cases it's way less significant than the example of TTRPG you mentioned
While we're on topic, a friend of mine recently got a copy of Molly House (we still haven't gotten around to play it, dude has way too many games lying around), anyone tried it and can tell me if it's any good?

>>95951098
Might I ask you to namefag or even better just get your trip back on? Would love to filter you tbqh

>deckbuilders
>co-op slop
what's the next big trend?

>>95951144
Jewgle says it's the "secret message" for swingers, as in it's a sex thing somehow. You'd think they would use a swing set as their symbol, but noo, we can't be understandable with our signalling else "da man" will get us or something.

>>95951169
>Molly House
I heard it's gay as fuck. Also the verdict on /bgg/ seemed to be that it's just okay and the traitor mechanic, whatever it is, sucks.

>>95950346
>the board game underneath
There's not much underneath the wing/wyrm/fin-span games.

They are generalized homogenous engines, singleton card decks, with narrow card drafting. You basically have next to no choices, and your actions are almost identical to everyone else's.

I've played all 3 several times with people who are enthusiastic about them. I basically check out in all of them and still have a shot at winning. One time I tried to lose on purpose and just empty the token supply for teh lulz, and still was not bottom scoring.

Unironicaly the Love Letter and sibling games Lost Legacy are way better have more variety, you have to THINK, and don't overstay thier welcome, but no one's heard of them beyond Love Letter. The shit that gets popular is always boring grey-goo trash that takes 2 hours with nothing to think about in our out of game.

>>95951482
>the traitor mechanic, whatever it is,
It's not even a traitor mechanic. Each time a gay bar closes you place a bet on whether the nearest gay bar to you will close before the game ends.
You can only bet on closing for one bar per game.
A player can reveal your bet on their turn and either gain a few points (if you bet the bar would close) or lose a few points (if you bet the bar would stay open).
If you have a revealed bet you get some minor penalties that prevent you from forcing the bar to close but don't do much else.

If the game ends because of the ghost player's score:
A winning bet on a bar closing absolves you of any crippling penalties you acquired.
A losing bet on a bar closing gives you a crippling penalty that essentially guarantees you lose.
A winning bet on a bar staying open pays out a few victory points.

If the game ends because of bar closures:
A winning bet on a bar closing is required to win the game.


The trouble is that closing bars generally hurts other people more than it hurts you so you'll try to close bars regardless of what you've bet.

>>95950732
Why aren't scores based off of relative comparisons?

A person orders a set of games within a type, then the backend does some crunching.

Human assigned number scores are disjointed retarded messes. You can get meaningful relationships and rank ordering without the human fucking directly assigned numbers.

>>95951074
This

Any "The message "directly competes with reality, of course they never have good design. They already ignore reality for thier narative, why would they listen to reality about thier narative flavored product?

>>95951074
What is this Space African game I've never heard of?

>>95950299
God willing someday every game I like will have at least one furry thirstbait edition.

>>95951074
Do the space africans subjugate alien races or are the planets uninhabited by sentient life?

>>95951624
Based legacy mentioned

>>95951340
Games with an "old-school" (90s) Euro vibe but with art that isn't hideous.

>>95953177
the /bgg/ era is here..

>>95953177
>monkeys paw curls

>>95953177
At least some of the people complaining about old art are actually just complaining about antiquated graphic design. SidCon's a good example of a game that got 100x better with a design overhaul but they left all the art the same.

>>95951340
Nationwide ban on LGBTBBQs owning and playing board games.

>>95953231
You realize that /bgg/ is over 10 years old now and some people here have been playing long enough to be tired of 90s euros? Just because you're discovering them now doesn't mean we're all excited for a return of 30 year old games.

What game has the best-designed board in your opinion? Not talking about mechanics, only the board.

>>95953427
Kemet or Gears of War.

>>95953427
Bus or Guards of Atlantis II

>co-op mode for Agricola
Lol it keeps getting better and better.

is there a 3rd best Splotter if you don't want something long and complicated?

>>95953520
Bus is neither long nor complicated.
But a used copy of Cannes can go for much cheaper.

What are we in for BGG

>>95953602
Falling sideways off the edge of the world, apparently

>>95953602
A decent game idea but its wargame pedigree brings it down. Once you get past the initial flashiness of the components and flavor text, you start seeing that past all that creativity, it all amounts to a series of boring D6 rolls while you juggle the DRMs from the different sources to come out ahead. The cool event at the start of the round? Well, you get a negative DRM, don't forget to spend your +DRM tokens and keep the enemy ships at a level where they don't provide negative DRMs. After a few games, all those cool effects narrow down to this: +1, +1, -1, +1, -1. And then the game gets incredibly boring. In that sense, it's similar to Dawn of the Zeds.

>>95953427
"Best" is a bit too unspecific, for me at least. So here's a bunch of different categories.
>The "Holy shit he actually made this clusterfuck readable" award:
Any O'Toole feat. Lacerda
>Best gimmicky board
Still Tzolk'in
>Most interesting board
High Frontier 4
>Comfiest board
Renature
>Board I personally really like
Alchemists

I'd write more but I am literally falling asleep sitting

>>95953827
>I'd write more but I am literally falling asleep sitting
Read that as shitting and I'm still giggling about it.

>>95953921

>>95953936
>wehrlefart

In 2017, I fucked Quinns on the train tracks behind the Vancouver Convention Centre. Man, his ass could grip. Real tight, not a hair on it, and a sphincter you could only dream of. I had fun at first. But he was so weirdly macho about it. He kept saying things like "that's right, ya slag, am I gonna make you spaff?" and "proper bender, bet you're dying to shoot in me big hairy bloke-arse, innit? Hahaha poof". I just ignored him and kept railing. He continued unironically calling me his slag and a poofter as he had several hands free prostate orgasms spilling seminal fluids onto the train tracks, getting more angry and dominant after each one. "Bet you like chaps, eh? You’ve the look of a right nancy " he'd say "can’t even feel your limp todger, you pathetic twat." I just kept clapping, wondering wtf is up with him. After about 20 minutes of railing Quinns' boypussy, drenched in sweat and his cream, I finally got a nut off despite his constant berating and degrading comments. He immediately hopped off, laid flat on his back and bent his legs over his head so the cum dripped out of his asshole directly into his mouth. "What the devil are you gawking at? You enjoying the show, you sordid queen?" He kept saying. After he got every last drop. He cackled like a rooster and punched me in the face as hard as he could. He nearly broke his hand, but I was fine. "Bloody hell, you nancy" he said as he limped off into the sunset, shaking his wrist. That was the first and last time I fucked Quinns on the train tracks behind the Vancouver Convention Centre

>>95953965
For the love of everything that's holy don't ever try being funny again. I mean it.

First comment that posts a game that's on BGA and has a tutorial and that I haven't played yet I will go and learn how to play it

>>95954230
Power Vacuum

>when they sold the empty box devoid of birds, I laughed
>now the box sellers come for my games too

fuck this trend

>>95954245
I love really well-made organizers but I hate boxes of an irregular size (and shape).

>>95954245
Does it come with the card sleeves?

>>95954240
Wish me luck

>>95954277
May your rise to Supreme Appliance be one for the ages.

>>95954255
What do you think?

>>95954240
>>95954277
>>95954325
This is such a weird trick taker. It's like winning tricks is something that's actively discouraged

>>95954673
It's more in the vein of Hearts. Losing a trick is definitely the strategy of the game, but winning can help you secure lower cards for next round. It's a push and pull. I was thrown a bit at first, but I've actually come to enjoy it.

>>95953295
>they left all the art the same.
not all art, the research cards had lineart showing each species' variant of the researched tech, like the Yengii's translator had neat well ordered alientext and the Kt'zr' translator had messy hastily written scribbles, that got lost in the remaster. Not that big of a deal but still kind of a bummer.
Tauceti where the fuck is Trade Empires the big version of sidcon? Where is that wargame you posted about on BGGulag?

>>95953520
I would say Bus is the first best if you don't want long and complicated, second would probably be TGZ(if anyone tell you delivery rules are complicated you're allowed to call them an idiot) and third would be Roads and Boats.

>>95953965
Thanks, I've been missing some quinns oc for a while. Wish I had saved the rest

>almost 650 hours in Fallout 4
I guess Red Dust Rebellion sucking was to be expected.

>>95955284
Unsure how the two go together but witb carmichael being a faggot (even though I like his videos) RDR not being stellar seemed like a given. Although I think the cycler mechanic is neat.

>>95955011
>R&B
I thought he asked for something that's not long, I've played 4 games with varying playercounts (2,3,4) and it took 3-4 hours despite me sending bricks (on the wonder) every turn

>>95955596
also FCM with new milestones can end in under 2 hours

>>95954245
>Europa Universalis
I just stumbled upon the fact that they have a second crowdfunding campaign going. Anybody played this, especially with 6?

>>95955686
only with 4p
I have about 40 hours in this game, and I have to say that unlike the computer game it is really nice to play it with other people, but this physical boardgame takes up way too much space and requires you to keep track of a million different event and progression cards spread all over the table. The game is really ok (my biggest pain is probably that the exploration card in the blue deck is so strong and if you want to colonize you have to fish for it) but I sold it because as I wrote above, the physical version is a monster and an unfunny joke, just play it on TTS.
Besides, the publisher is a huge jew, just like parajews, and the bullshit they did during the reprint and release of an expansion made me not want to have anything to do with them.

>>95955718
I got a similar impression. Didn't get it primarily because I realized I already play Ti4/Dune/HIS less than once a year each nowadays and it'd just be gathering dust.

Speaking of ordering large way too heavy games
>Excitement
>Excitement fades over time as I wait for it
>Receive package
>Excitement reignites, but is quickly drowned under the apprehension of "holy shit the box is way too big"
>Try to learn the rules after the kids are in bed for 2-4 weeks, fall asleep 90% of time
>Finally manage to set up a game and play against myself
>Get excited again
>No opportunity to get it to the table the next few sessions
>Rules slowly fade from memory
>After 4 months an opportunity with a group capable and willing to play it comes up
>Would have to brush up on the rules again
>"Eeeh let's play something we know"

>>95955718
Thanks for the response. I'll research further before/if I end up buying it. Even if we play it rarely, I wouldn't mind having a huge event type game as long as it's worth it.
>Besides, the publisher is a huge jew, just like parajews, and the bullshit they did during the reprint and release of an expansion made me not want to have anything to do with them.
What did they do?

>>95956026
as befits a jew, they're masters of manipulative marketing and psychological tricks. Even before the relaunch with an expansion—whose value was not fully known—they baited people with an ‘exclusive’ mini-expansion, which god knows what it was supposed to contain, because they themselves didn't even know it, which you supposedly could get FOR FREE. But to get it, you had to give them $10–15 before the campaign even began. Then, during the campaign, they made it look like you got the mini-expansion and a $15 coupon ‘for free.’

>>95955980
>have to both have time for and be in the mood for a 3-5 hour game
>never happens

everyone saved up $3,000 the past 2 weeks to get this https://gamefound.com/en/projects/ghost-galaxy-games/lord-of-the-rings-the-confrontation-ultimate-edition/updates/24 in a few hours, right?

>Toy Battle and DC Forever coming in the mail tomorrow
I'm so excited yaaay :D

>>95956076
Meh, that's pretty modest as far as kikery goes. You do get your mini expansion and a $15 credit for other pledges.

What I'm more pissed about is just how bloody expensive it is. 500 eurobucks for the all-in, plus 160 for a hollow cube if I want to store everything in one place. I thought crowdfunding is supposed to make things cheaper. Guess I'll pick and choose and drop all the fluff if I end up buying it.

,

>>95956715
I think you don’t quite understand – they wanted $15 from you even before the crowdfunding campaign started, for an add-on that nobody even knows what will be in it, and which you’ll supposedly get for free if you give them your money now. Since there wasn’t even clear info about what would be in the main reprint expansion, they were just taking money from people, and then relying on FOMO – idiots who already paid the 10%, and who might not even like the expansion that much (desu, most of its content sucks anyway, it just adds alternative events) – will end up buying it anyway, because hey, they already gave them some money, and that mythical free add-on is waiting for them.
also fuck jannies, stop turning this site into plebbit you mentally ill self mutilating freaks.

>>95956806
I'm pretty sure I understood the scheme. It's meant to rope people in with the sunk-cost fallacy and make it more likely they will follow through with a full pledge. Just saying, for someone who was actually going to pledge regardless because they wanted to get in on the game after word of mouth from the first campaign, it's not a negative all-in-all. I don't have too much sympathy for people who just back random shit and change their minds afterwards who could've gotten fucked out of the 15 bucks.

I will agree with you though to the extent that I hate all these millions of addons that overbloat the games. Especially when it goes to the lengths of "if you go all-in, you get 2 of everything, 1 standard and 1 deluxe mini/standee/board/whatever". It's just fucking wasteful.

Last thing I backed was the 7th Citadel expansion. 260 eurobucks and you get everything, including stuff from the first campaign, no nonsense. And it will all fit neatly in the boxes provided, without causing headaches.

>>95956806
>>95956891
I don't mind the 'follow for a free gift' thing but making people pre-order something they know nothing about is a special kind of yiddish behavior

>>95956410
Not going to lie, it actually looks really good.

It's not 3000 dollars good, but I'd be lying if I said that doesn't look fantastic.

i regret to inform you all that after many years in the hobby, i finally pledged for a game :(
may cancel it if/when i see some retail prices

>>95957701
Which one anon?

>>95957720
>>95956410
Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation STANDARD edition ($50/$69 estimated with shipping & tariffs).
it's supposed to be one of the better Knizia games and Lord of the Rings games. i've never even found anyone on this board who has played it. looks extremely up my alley.

>>95957745
Yeah I was wondering about that too. But remember, all these games will end up in retail and you won't pay out of your ass for hidden VAT, shipping and maybe tariffs. Because these "x off retail price!" Is an utter meme, you'll always end up paying more compared to retail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv25UpOO9xw

>2 new boxes for Captain's Chair
let's go

I've played like 40 games of affo+norwegians and I still don't get how there is nothing to even out first player advantage. Especially in a 3p game, I struggle to find equally viable paths to the obvious whaling or pillaging the first two players go for. Sheep seems semi-viable. What rough alternate opener is there for the first turn? Everything else out there only ever felt a bit mediocre if I didn't have starting jobs to exploit

lauded as one of, if not THE most thematic Dune board game
>Duncan Idaho, one of most skilled agents duke Leto has, is measly 2 strength leader. I mean he's just as good single fedaykin or sardaukar, but still only 2 strength for ginaz master swordmaster who impressed fremen enough to straight up join with duke and killed 16 or 19 sardaukar in last stand seems like a joke
>Alia, who's abomination and the very thing Bene Gesserit wants to destroy, is part of BG faction.
>No Solari, just pay spice for everything.
>if you commit forces, they commit seppuku after battle.
I mean its great game, for sure, but its as thematic as dune imperium.

>>95958499
I'd like to refute this, but you are not wrong; the only excuse is reductionism to make the game less convoluted. But yeah the alia thing bothered me a lot as well.
It still is a very thematic game unafraid to be cumbersome when appropriate (eg. family atomics) but the most important thing - and this is why it has been reprinted - is because it's a really good game. Which should be the fundament for every game anyway

>>95958499
>Alia, who's abomination and the very thing Bene Gesserit wants to destroy, is part of BG faction.
So is Ramallo, the spiritual leader of the Fremen. They didn't have enough named characters to flesh out the factions.
One of the characters for the Spacing Guild doesn't even have a name.

>>95958240
i have just about 10 plays and I saw nothing sort of that. What exactly is the strategy you think is "obvious"?

Personally, I go for cows/horses that I upgrade later in the game, also I use C/D islands and it goes well almost all the times.

>>95958499
I'm sorry, but in Dune Imperium every faction plays the same with a couple relatively minor bonuses, and in Dune every faction plays very differently. From starting positions, to income sources, to how mobile they are, etc. Dune Imperium also completely lacks the whole backdoor dealing/betrayal aspect.

There is a problem with the leader tokens, sure. But even that is mostly down to the books having very few named characters worth putting in there.

>>95958499
Means 0 (zero) because you can play with the atreides and at a certain point you start asking to reveal unit strength because you can see every other path

>>95957701

>>95955500
I don't think it sucked necessarily. It relied too much on combat as the deciding factor and there was not enough interaction between the factions. I hated the flashpoint rounds - slowed an already long game way down.

It did what it was supposed to do - get people who would never play a COIN to play a COIN.

>>95958758
You aren't playing a faction in DI so it doesn't really make sense to compare those
>>95958934
>get people who would never play a COIN to play a COIN.
Who cares, that's why I shelled out for pic related

>>95958499
>>95958626
>>95958669
>>95958758
I mean you can look at this this way: leader strength represent leaders leadership/influence. Duncan was Duke Leto's envoy. Yes badass to be sure but he's just agent instead of commander, so him being 2 strength leader is in line of him just being special forces unit like sardaukar or fremen. Also him being 2 power worth means he's cheap to revive and with kwizach haderach token, he's surprisingly good, being 4 power leader that cheap to revive to boot, making it very thematic especially to later books.
Regarding alia: I mean dune had universal rule that bene Gesserit characters (or characters that have skillet of bene Gesserit in case of alia)= 5 power. So in some sense all bene gesserits are interchangable. Jessica was disgraced bene Gesserit that clearly chose atraides rather than bg, romalo was also sorta of rogue bene Gesserit? (Iirc books were very vague regarding if fremen sayadina elders were related with bene gesserits or not) And alia was interchangable, but my point is it could be named Joana of arc and still have 5 power due to being bene Gesserit adept.
Regarding dune imperium: yes I agree characters are largely very similar, special rule and signet abilities are neat but imo, have too small of impact to completely change gameplay like special faction abilities in OG dune.
Sorry for ramble

>>95959029
>Sorry for ramble
You're not excused.

>>95958027
yea, good chance i end up cancelling and buying it retail. earlier they had said it wasn't really going to retail unless they had extras - now they say it is.
i guess i'll wait to see what the 3 campaign exclusive things are, but i don't get FOMO on that kind of stuff. if it was meant to be a part of the game, it would be part of the base retail game.
crisis averted - my virginity will stay intact

>>95958934
>get people who would never play a COIN to play a COIN
I thought Root and Robin Hood were that at the price of being random as hell

Spooktacular incoming

>>95959917
Did that actually make it to the printers?
Gosh maybe there's hope for Compile.
I ordered both from same store so fingers crossed end of summer brings goodies.

>>95960017
it's been printed, yep. only hold up was shipping to the US

I made a card for one of the Tragedy Looper characters that are apparently exclusive to a Chinkstarter campaign. There aren't any photos of the card online though so I had to use some replacement art.

>with group of mostly normalfags at local board game cafe
>they see some Marvel-themed Secret Hitler (?) game called Hail Hydra
>play it, soon realize there's no actual way for the good guys to actually learn information about who might be bad because the only clue is what card you put down (but you have to put down bad cards sometimes anyway so what does it matter?)
>the cards all get shuffled before reveal anyway so everyone just says they put good cards
>have a miserable time, drop it after a couple turns
>look up game online
>first result is the designer saying they messed up the balancing
what a fuckload of ass!

Someday, I will get a Citadel of Blood game going...

>>95960245
ah geez it's another 'autist tries to play a social deduction game' episode

>>95960305
My normalfag friends didn't like it either tbqh
>designer himself admits it's a bad game
Should've just licensed a retheme of Secret Hitler.

>>95960305
its another 'defending terrible game design cause you're supposed to heckin social diplomacy your way to victory' episode from Cole enjoyers

The goddamn Agricola campaign is never going to fucking end.

>>95960375
boy that's quite the leap
but yes, i think you're supposed to do some social diplomacy in a social deduction game

>>95960386
when's the kikestarter bubble going to finally pop? all the tariffs did was kill off the weaker publishers.

>>95960528
Nothing stops the slop train, anon. The masses demand more sloppa for the sloppa god, and kikestarter answers.

Uh, this looks like a fever dream
Somebody hold me im scared

>>95960637
what is this, space candyland?

Why are people so up in arns about agricola? The gameplay isn't going to fucking change even if the art does
Fuck, it could be rethemed as cave dwellers and still be just as fun
Wait

>>95960707
Caverna is a much better game

>>95960701
Sure, if in candyland you can sell the locals a religion

>>95960792
Glaze Allah, he died for your Cin(namon)
Resses-Peices be upon him

>friends tire of every board game after only a few times playing it
>never want to play it again
I have so many games collecting dust I have no idea what to do with them.

>>95960836
don't let anything overstay its welcome. play a game once to teach them, 1 more time to get it down and have a more enjoyable game. move onto another game, leave them wanting more. come back to the first game later, play it once or twice again. keep cycling them. don't play something 3, 4, 5 times in a row or they'll get sick of it. keep mixing them up.

>>95960836
Get a better taste, nigga, it's not other people's fault your games suck ass.

>>95960877
Everytime we go more than 2 weeks without playing a game, all of us completely forget how to play it

>>95960893
I have a huge variety of games though. Fire most recent purchases are Santorini, Libertalia, Camel Up, Tikal, and Mansions of Madness

>>95960909
*Five most

>>95960909
>Santorini,
Ass
>Libertalia,
Double ass.
>Camel Up,
Stunk ass.
>Tikal,
Triple ass.
>and Mansions of Madness
Unwashed curry eating, loo avoiding, shit smelling, dingleberry covered ass.

>>95960895
take the old school euro-pill

>>95960893
There are pleanty of people who need constant novelty. It's not the collection, it's the dopamine junkies.

There are more combinations of a standard card deck than humans can ever experience, it's just they feel very similar to one another on a gross scale. Similar to how most euros feel the same once you have experience with any of them.

>>95960938
give the man some recommendations

>>95960990
Any recommendations?

>>95960996
He's just trolling, he has no interest in being useful

>>95960895
they don't need to remember how to play it, you do.
play on BGA or TTS, play with other groups, read the rules between. you're going to have to be the rules guy if everyone else is retarded and dopamine junkies. they'll remember enough once you get going, as long as you can steer them straight.

>>95960909
These are cringe ass games bro. I dont blame your friends. Who the fuck wants to play MoM more than once?

>as he walks to his spaceship, he hears a soft muffled crying
>he turns around, once more, and smiles at his wife
>I'll be back in no time, just selling these old rubber duckies on the next space station and that'll be all
>but they both know its not true
>because if it were, what would the blue paint and satellite equipment in the ships cargo holds be for?
>and why would he have needed to outfit his once modest scout class ship with heavy duty construction equipment?
>I know you're doing this to make us all proud, his wife says, trying to smile through her tears
>I just hope this time the plan will work out
>Dont worry, my love, he answers
>Ive got everything under control
How. The fuck. Am I now living this.
Just one more trade.
One more sale.
Another couple of stealth ducks moved and I'll be out of the game.
BUT WHATS OVER THAT HORIZON??!!
Ive lost control of my life.

>>95960701
It's a print and play copy of Duck Dealer. https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/86609/carthaginian-redesign-for-duck-dealer
It's one of the weird niche Splotter games nobody talks about. Superficially the game is a light imitation of Merchant of Venus, but there are no dice rolls and there's a completely different system for taking actions.
Every turn you either collect vouchers or redeem all your vouchers to take actions.
Redeeming vouchers infrequently lets you take more actions overall but there's a first mover advantage so you need to strike a balance between getting to do lots of things and having things to do that are worth doing.

>>95960829
Close enough. I'm pretty sure the Religion Consumers eat the Religion you're selling them.

>>95961031
i was going to joke that it looked like a Splotter. it's f'in Duck Dealer. let us know what you think

>>95960996
>>95960998
Eclipse Second Edition

>>95961048
>Superficially the game is a light imitation of Merchant of Venus
MoV was immediately what I thought of when I saw it, too. Speaking of which, I still have to make a PnP of that BGG redesign now that I have the correct files for it.

>>95960998
>Any recommendations?

>>95960836
Stop being the group game paypig

>>95960528
Kickstarter is fine. The margins on KS direct to consumer are enormous. Bubble won’t pop anytime soon. As long as millennial dinks exist and get wealthier

>Tikal
>Java
>Cacao
>Mexica
Any new Euros that feel like these old school ones?

>>95959021
>You aren't playing a faction in DI so it doesn't really make sense to compare those
My bad, "character". And it absolutely does make sense. The only theme in Dune Imperium is expressed through names and illustrations. The gameplay itself has nothing to do with Dune. Sorry.

>>95961398
>Mexica
Unironically Renature

>>95960909
If you're not trolling with your list of games, then one thing immediately pops out
>light
>light
>light
>light
>heavy but brainless
Sounds like you're buying a whole bunch of disposable slop with no meat on the bones. Do you have a single game your group enjoyed for more than a few matches, for us to base recpmmendations on? What's your group size?

Shut up, nerds we're playing blood rage tonight

Is there something like Diplomacy but without player elimination?

>>95959917
>Aussies game first
>Burgers last
What a time to be alive

>>95961777
I have 4-5 people in my playgroup. They claim to like most of the games I own. Most of them hate heavy games, so I don't really have much. If you want to critique my entire collection of board and card games from 12 years of collecting, I own:

Root
Vagrantsong
Everdell
Wonderlands War
Kill Doctor Lucky
Dwarves Inc
Smash Up
Red Dragon Inn
DC Deckbuilding Game
Photosynthesis
Forbidden Island
Smallworld
Splendor
Horrified
Castle Panic
Dead of Winter
Dominion
Pandemic
Elder Sign
Sushi Go
Cockroach Poker
Incan Gold
Settlers of Catan
Catan Starfarers
Jamaica
The Night Cage
Love Letter
Mysterium
One Night Ultimate Werewolf
Resistance
Tanpan
Ra
Longboard
Silver & Gold
Thunderstone Quest
Sheriff of Nottingham
Goodcritters
Boss Monster
Sonic Roll
Cthulhu Realms
Cthulhu Fluxx
Wiz-War
Aquarius
Descent: Journeys in the Dark
Betrayal at House on the Hill
Shark Island

>>95962006
*Omitting the previously mentioned games of course

>>95960386
Up to 12hrs and it's still getting reset. Let's see if they keep it going a whole day.

>>95962006
Is Smash up and Kill Dr Lucky any good? I've been curious about them before.

>>95962079
Haven't played either in years. Smash Up got very little playtime in my group because one particularly vocal friend hated it after our first game. I remember Kill Doctor Lucky being okay, though not especially memorable.

>>95960386
I've never played. Is it worth grabbing it?

¿何?

>>95962122
At almost a hundred bucks for the cheapest version (that almost nobody's getting because the wood version is the real baseline for most people) I'd say that's well outside of "picking up out of curiosity" territory. You gotta really know you want this to justify spending that much.

>>95962122
Agricola is my favorite board game of all time. I'd recommend just getting the regular version or trying it out online, though, and just start saving up to purchase the gigadeluxe edition if you end up loving it.

>>95962006
Checked out nemesis yet?

>>95962006
And none of these games got more than 3-5 plays out of your group? If they lose interest that quickly, maybe you should try something else with your collection.

Maybe there's a genre to get them hooked. My group is all about DOAM games. There are plenty of games that get a decent number of plays, but only DOAMs get plays that number in the dozens
>Dune
>Quartermaster General: WW2
>Cyclades
The first two are not an option with 4 and 5, but you should look into Cyclades. There's a new version out though which changes some things, not sure if it's for better or worse.

You say your group hates heavy games, but most of the games I recognise are super light. Try looking into games that are at least mid-weight. That's where they generally get more engaging on a thematic and mechanical level.

>>95962289
>You say your group hates heavy games, but most of the games I recognise are super light. Try looking into games that are at least mid-weight. That's where they generally get more engaging on a thematic and mechanical level.
Yeah I agree. He should look into some middle heavy classics with a theme his group might like and try them

>>95962122
The trvke is that if you never played an Uwe game, Agricola is the worst place to start. It's an awkward design where players hold a giant hand of cards (which their previously drafted) but the cards aren't playable or anything, they're just personal rule breakers players mindlessly slap down on the table. The rest of Agricola is a standard worker placement that suffers from being uber rigid and punishing. You will spend the first half of the game just building a food engine that'll allow you to play and hopefully have fun in the second half. Every Uwe big game improved on core ideas of Agricola in some way.

>>95961760
>Mexica
>Renature
I get that scoring is triggered by completing an enclosure, but that's where the similarities end...
>>95962006
Kinda weak collection I'll be honest
But if your play group hasn't played Ra more than 4-5 times then you should just get a new group, they're probably just not interested in board games at all and are pretending they are as an excuse to get together

>>95962289
>>95962325
I'll check out Cyclades. Any other good mid-weight suggestions? My group likes pretty much any theme though are particular to fantasy, sci-fi, and lovecraftian

>>95962393
>But if your play group hasn't played Ra more than 4-5 times
Even worse. We played it only once. New group not an option unfortunately, these are my only friends and I've known most of them for 20 years.

>>95962536
>not an option
Well then sit down with them and ask them which game(s) they liked the most among the ones they played in your collection and what they liked about them, then we can think of what we can think of what you could do

>>95962568
>then we can think of what we can think
Ugh. Well you get the idea

i wish this guy in my game group would stop bringing slop over

>>95962593
kek

>>95962593
A. I'm the one who hosts
B. I promise you kind of them are thinking that, the few board games they own themselves are even more "slop" than what I have.

>>95962638
*None of them

>>95962638
Sounds like you just need a new group, mate. The people you're playing with like party games

>>95962528
878: Vikings is a decent dice chucker. If your group is the kind of group that would play Risk if it weren't complete garbage, it might be worth a look.

Changing genres, Viticulture gets a bad rap around here, but we played a decent amount of it as I was getting into the hobby. Even if it's not the best worker placement game, it has a very comfy feel and execution for growing grapes and making wine. I'm the guy who gets board games in my group, and it's extremely rare for someone else to buy something, but once I stopped running Viticulture, one guy got a copy to play with his other friends. So there is definitely an appeal to hook people in.

>fantasy
On the topic of Cyclades, Kemet by the same publisher used to be THE game on /bgg/. I was kind of meh on it personally, but I can see why it is beloved.

>sci-fi
Unfortunately, my main sci-fi games have player counts of 6 or more.

>lovecraftian
These are almost universally slop.

>>95962079
The 19.5 (and up) revision is better, streamlined version.

First it's hide and seek on a clock, then it's a game of chicken. Some players may not like the turn order alteration, but it's well designed. The board subtlety hide lots of complexity.

>>95961398
https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/288449/old-school-euros-ogs-published-in-the-2020s

>>95962006
guys, the games ARE NOT the problem. it's what this guy >>95960994 said. he can throw all the money and games at the problem as he wants, it's not going to help. hell, it will probably make things worse, because they don't remember the rules when they replay the games. he's throwing TOO MANY games at them. he needs to do this >>95960877 with like 3 or 4 games.

i see this over and over. you hear "it's easier to make friends out of boardgamers than it is to make boardgamers out of friends". while there's some truth to this, it's not as difficult as people make it out to be. but you do really need to be honest with yourself about your group, and it's a fine line to walk. it might take more patience than you're willing to give. i've successfully taken several groups of Cards Against Humanity players and gotten them to be Splotter and Hansa Teutonica players. but it's baby steps, you can't rush it. you can't just throw games at the problem.

>>95962985
There has to be a bit of effort from both sides though, if his friends cant meet him halfway there's not much that can be done. But he also said that a new group is not an option

>>95962985
That collection has like 2 games I'd actually bother playing. So yes, it's absolutely the problem. Plenty of terrible games, and plenty of niches which are entirely unexplored by the collection.

The anon mentioned that his group hates heavy games, and the heaviest thing I see on there is Root, with hardly anything else even being mid-weight. And if the only exposure that group had to heavier games is Root, I can definitely understand their feelings. It's hit or miss with heavy gamers, but if you go from Cockroach Poker to Root you are 100% going to have a bad time.

That collection is not something to go nirvana posting over.

>>95962006
Where is Cthulhu death may die? Or even Outlive?

>>95962393
>but that's where the similarities end...
The expansion lets you increase the size of the areas as well.

>>95962164
context? Innovation is on BGA too by the by

>>95960305
If you want Secret Hitler that doesnt suck just play The Resistance (+- Avalon variant for more Mafia-like player powers)

>>95964250
i thought Secret Hitler was The Resistance that doesn't suck

Is Summoning Wars actually good? Seeing it a lot in the pastebin. Looks pretty simple, I wouldn't have looked twice at it based off of its art style

>>95964214
Left is the games currently implemented on yucata.de
https://www.yucata.de/en/
Right image is the directions for suggesting games to be implemented on yucata.de
https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/239348/proposed-games-for-yucatade-20181920

>>95964259
Secret Hitler sucks because you can be forced into taking the fail card, meaning using them as info of who's the baddie is unreliable. In The Resistance fail cards are a choice made by whoever was voted for, so any fail card is useful information for the blue side. If you fail to see how unreliable info in a social deduction game is bad for the game, I suggest you Coup yourself.

>>95964303
it's simple but pretty fun, and like the good card games gives you all the cards with no RNG bullshit attached.

>>95964391
I was wanting to pick it up, but there are too many add-on factions. I'm thinking of holding out for a "big box" collection or something rather than having an incomplete game

>>95962164
kek the games that they couldn't get is basically the premium section of BGA

>>95964307
why request a game that's already implemented?
>>95964468
ugh i hate bga for this

>>95964383
Unreliable info is fine in a good social deduction game (like Dark Moon) and it's not the problem with Secret Hitler. The problem with Secret Hitler is that voting is the only source of information in the game - in Resistance, you get to vote on the team and then they decide if the mission passes. Because the failed team votes reset between missions, you can gather a lot of information about how everyone votes and who they support. In Secret Hitler, the failed votes don't reset so if a team doesn't get elected a few times, the game is over. It significantly leans the game away from the deduction side and towards the social side.

>>95964448
>rather than having an incomplete game
this is some FOMO marketing BS, get over it.
instead of thinking like this, your mentality should be that if you owned all of the factions, you'd never play any of them enough to be good at any of them.
there's going to be at least 32 factions. at about $10-15/faction that's $320 conservatively, for a game that you don't even know if you like.

>>95964383
>>95964582
i just talk to people and figure it out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>95964611
>i just talk to people
I hate that and I hate you.

>>95960836
sell them on BGG/FB Market/eBay. buy better ones with the money

>>95964468
I count 23 BGA premium games out of 102 suggestions. Plus 7 suggestions that are on BGA but not premium. And I without looking too close I see at least 4 games yucata that are premium on BGA.
I think the list has more to do with publishers that don't want to work with yucata (all the stuff from Hasbro, etc.) and publishers yucata doesn't want to work with (all the stuff from Knizia Games, etc.) than it does to do with other board game sites.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of BGA's license agreements for premium games granted exclusivity. But their standard license for non-premium games is non-exclusive: https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/images/e/e0/BGA_TC_Pub_en.pdf

>>95964538
Because you like features of yucata's website?

>>95964468
I count 23 BGA premium games out of 102 suggestions. Plus 7 suggestions that are on BGA but not premium. And I without looking too close I see at least 4 games currently on yucata that are premium on BGA.
I think the list has more to do with publishers that don't want to work with yucata (all the stuff from Hasbro, etc.) and publishers yucata doesn't want to work with (all the stuff from Knizia Games, etc.) than it does to do with other board game sites.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of BGA's license agreements for premium games granted exclusivity. But their standard license for non-premium games is non-exclusive: https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/images/e/e0/BGA_TC_Pub_en.pdf

>>95964538
Because you like features of yucata's website?

Aaaaaayyyyyy! What's up my cardboard loving, dice rolling, deck building, dreadnaught arming amigos!?
It's that time of the week - FRIIIIIDAAAAAAY! Das rite, the time we all been waiting for!
What exciting games y'all hoping to play? Are you putting on the table something new, or this weekend will be spent in a comfy zone of well known adventures?
What's your crew up to lately? Does your fellowship stay coherent? Are your crew members aaait, or y'all dealing with a partycrasher? Does your group have any women? Do they match your expectations? Are they a good sport or the women's nature takes over?
This week I'm staying home, got sick and I don't want to infect anyone just as the holiday season starts. If I get somehow motivation, ima maybe put Huang that I've bought like a half a year ago to see what's all the buzz about.
Anyway, I hope y'all have a jolly good weekend with people you like and share the same passion for our hobby, even if they are biological women.

>>95964832
Playing some Mansions of Madness tonight. Getting some snacks and beers. Gunna be a gooood night. Get better, buddeh

>>95962047
Welp, they did it.

>>95964832
Been having like 2~ board game nights a week but a ton of my group is out this weekend so I decided to take a small break from it.

Might play Mage Knight solo if I'm bored enough

>>95964611
When I talk to people they lie to me so maybe i just got skill issues idk

>>95964790
Sorry, I meant why request a game that's already implemented on yucata? Maybe I'm not understanding what that gulag list is for?

>>95965505
>Maybe I'm not understanding what that gulag list is for?
I think you've got it right. It's a suggestion box for users to request games they would like added to the site.
>I meant why request a game that's already implemented on yucata?
It was put on the "we don't want it" list some time prior to 2018 and it was added to yucata in 2022.

>>95965441
>When I talk to people they lie to me
The greatest autism filter

>>95964832
Good to see you too, anon. Maybe we'll manage to try out Wonderlands war before I have to give it back and if one of the players cancels I'll get churchill to the table again.

I'm finishing my 3d print of an insert for HoMM3 board game which should let me set it up faster and play it more often. I love the game but the setup takes so long it needs an insert.

>>95962006
This collection is really bad. It's not that there's nothing good there, but it's basically all made of games that appeal to people on an impulse purchase, box cover, consumer level. I simply cannot imagine you researching games before you buy and prioritizing anything close to the things I do (e.g., designer). Rather, this is the kind of collection I'd expect from someone who just buys every other game their favorite YouTuber tells them to. For a group of med/light gamers you would literally be way way better off scrapping the lot and blindly buying all of Knizia's top 30 games, the Spiel winners, or the OG Hall of Fame without any research vs repeating whatever process led you to this collection. I'm not being hyperbolic, I really think those are more productive paths for you. A well-curated collection (e.g. >>95901505) is so far beyond yours, you shouldn't even be trying.

>>95965940
A 3d printer is the best accessory you can own for gaming. I just printed one for Clash of Cultures because separating the units every time is a pain in the ass.

>>95966036
>A well-curated collection
>Bunch of train games that you can't get to the table and /bgg/ memes

lol. lmao even

>>95966036
Stop being a faggot.

There are /bgg/ memes other than Kemet?

>>95966068
Agreed, I just finished one for Fields of Arle letting me combine base game and expansion into a single box. Immediately wanted to play it because of how much easier it made the setup.

>>95966124
There's been a plethora, but most of them lack the required repeat count to really be a meme. A few that I think made the cut:
>45 dollars for birds??? (And variations thereof)
>The SI/Harry potter pasta
>the woefully underused "have fun playing shit games you can understand by just reading the rulebook"

>>95966232
>>the woefully underused "have fun playing shit games you can understand by just reading the rulebook"
Thank you for reminding me, I can't help but smile every time I read. What a joy to the world that post was.

>>95966124
Yes, see >>95961203

>>95966219
How's the expansion anon? I really liked Fields of arle as a more chill rosenberg and the expansion sounded nice but supporting 3p made me reconsider. Why the fuck would you do that?

>>95965441
lol geez
>>95960305

>>95966243
Depends what you like about the game. I treat it as a relaxing sandbox and in that aspect, it's perfect because it gives you lots of new ways to score and strategies to try. Just more pleasantness all around watching your little farmland grow.
If you're playing sweaty trying to squeeze out max points every game, the expansion doesn't help much and the extra avenues make it even less likely you'll compete against your opponent for a specific strategy. Then again, if you're playing sweaty, I have no idea why you'd play FoA in the first place.

>>95966232
>45 dollars
To think there would come a time where it would fade away and I would miss it
Oh sweet summers of youth

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>>95966320
If someone would have told me there would be an absence of birds being sold for +70 dollars only years later I'd have called him schizo and pointed him to /x/. The times sure are a changing

Other than the obvious Splotter, are there any publishers that you have a high opinion of?
Why?

>>95966383
>Splotter
I mean their games are mechanically nice but they leave a lot to be desired as publishers.

Were Wyrmspan and Finspan busts? Seems like they came and went with very little fanfare, and I imagine Wingspan's best days are behind it, but it wouldn't be the first time I had no idea what normies actually like.

>>95966383
I really like CGEs stuff

>>95966383
Plaid Hat Games
Make fun games, lot of good vibes from their decisions and leadership, even if not all of the good choices lasted forever.

>>95966396
I'd like to think so but at least wyrmspan was on top of the selling lists for a while. Pretty sure it was a massive commercial success

>>95966383
Allplay (almost everything they make is at least decent)
Winsome Games (I am train-pilled)

>>95966383
Bitewing
Asmadi
Level 99

>>95966383
GMT
Level99
PlaidHat
Eurydice Games
Splotter
RIP Zman, FFG, and >thangames. It was real.

>>95966383
>high opinion
>splotter
nigga wat
I like few of their games, but as a publisher they absolutely suck. Overpriced, out of print, looks like ass

>>95960707
Having the possibility to get the 5-6 plqyers expansion and also all decks ever released + new decks were the selling point to me. Simple as that. I'm getting the wood edition.

>>95966036
Imagine being this elitist over something like board games

>>95966036
>Spirit Island
>Cosmic frog
>Well-curated

>>95966767

>>95966698
He's not wrong, on that shelf any gamer could find something he likes, on op's there are 2-3 decent games in an ocean of forgettable stuff

Which has the best UI out of Vassal Engine, Yucata, and IG Game Center?

>>95966879
>vassal
Now there is a name and logo I havent thought about in forever.
Learned how to play Pax Ren and and got humiliated in front of the SumWars1 crowd on that platform.
Good times.

>>95966879
It's been a long time since I've used Vassal but I remember not loving it.
Yucata only has a unified UI for navigating logs and watching replays. The UI for gameplay is bespoke to each game.
I have never used igGameCenter but it looks like a nice website.

>>95966036
>>95966107
>>95966110
>>95966698
>>95966767
has nirvana bgg anon gone too far? seems he fell in love with my collection last thread

>>95966988
Remember, we're only three anons here. You, me, and that raging faggot.

>>95967038
Who are you calling a faggot, cunt?

>>95960386
30 hours of this shit now.

>>95966698
board games are one of the most appropriate things to be elitist about. the greatest games don't cost any more than the slop

>>95967533
who determines what is "slop"?

>>95962006
have played, would play:
Camel Up
Mansions of Madness
Everdell
Horrified
Pandemic
Love Letter
Mysterium
Sheriff of Nottingham

haven't played, would play:
Ra
Forbidden Island
Smallworld
Root
Splendor
Tikal
The Night Cage
Dead of Winter
Dominion
One Night Ultimate Werewolf
Incan Gold
Cockroach Poker

have played, wouldn't play:
Photosynthesis
Betrayal at House on the Hill
Red Dragon Inn
DC Deckbuilding Game
Sushi Go
Santorini
Settlers of Catan

haven't played, wouldn't play:
Libertalia
Vagrantsong
Wonderlands War
Kill Doctor Lucky
Dwarves Inc
Smash Up
Castle Panic
Elder Sign
Catan Starfarers
Jamaica
Resistance
Tanpan
Longboard
Silver & Gold
Thunderstone Quest
Goodcritters
Boss Monster
Sonic Roll
Cthulhu Realms
Cthulhu Fluxx
Wiz-War
Aquarius
Descent: Journeys in the Dark
Shark Island

>>95948936
low effort cash grab with lots of misprints, and exclusively positive player interaction. not worth playing for free even.

>played Terra Mystica with the parents
>transformed and built on a suboptimal hex in round 5
>tied for first instead of winning handily because of that

>>95964303
Summoner wars is fantastic. Simple and streamlined basic rule set that then sees tons of permutations and interesting explorations of design space.
Not a game you need to go all in on. There are some easily skippable factions if you care about complexity, balance, or playstyles.

>>95961054
Will give report in the new thread, wnv that happens

I played Nunatak today. My first thought when I saw the game was "this would cost half as much if the plastic pieces were just cardboard tiles" and my last thought after playing it was "the box would be a fourth the size if the plastic pieces were just cardboard tiles".
Not much else to say about it. The set collection drafting aspect was fine, if a bit rigid. The area control aspect was less important than I was expecting but it helped to make the drafting decisions less trivial. I would play it again but I don't think I would buy it.
Reflecting on it now, my only additional thought is "if it were just cardboard tiles the tiles could be smaller and the game wouldn't be a table hog".
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

>Wingspan
>Wyrmspan
>Finspan
>Dogspan
>Catspan
>Humanspan
>Board Gamespan
>Cartoonspan
>Slutspan

>>95967586
ME

FUCKRENATURE

>>95966396
>>95966418
Wyrmspan sold well and I know some people who still play it. Tabletop nerds like dragons, go figure.
Finspan I completely don't get. Birds are way more popular than fish and the sort of guys who are really into fish are like sport fishermen who I don't think have a lot of crossover with board gamers.

>>95966454
It's a smidge early but here you go: >>95969350
>>95969350
>>95969350