The Enemy Within - /tg/ (#95950488) [Archived: 1019 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:20:28 PM No.95950488
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Just heard about this. Apparently is one of the best campaign supplements ever written, which is enough to pique my interest even if I never run WHFBRPG. Has someone actually played it? What it's about? Is its reputation deserved?
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:43:10 PM No.95950628
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>>95950488 (OP)
That's the 3e version, which is completely unrelated outside of the name (picrel is the real one).
I'm currently halfway through running it (though with 2e instead of 1e or 4e) and we've had a lot of fun with what it offers, though parts of it are kinda rocky and don't do the best job with communicating what they want the GM to do. Expect that you'll have to flesh a lot of the scenario out yourself, when the adventure turns more investigative.
Otherwise, it's a really good showcase of what the WFRP world is like, just be prepared, because it's really long (5 or 6 books depending on the version you're running).
There were two releases of the campaign, one for 1st edition and one for 4th edition. Personally I went with backporting the 4th edition version to 2e (my preferred version of WFRP), since the PDFs have higher resolution art and handouts as well as a base rules system that's closer to 2e. Though if you don't want to convert and just want to use it as is, 4e is an OK ruleset.
>TL;DR: It's quite good, but not perfect and use the 4e version backported to 2e
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:15:14 PM No.95951261
>>95950628
Thank you
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:23:37 PM No.95951335
>>95951261
You're welcome. I hope you end up having fun if you decide on running it.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:01:25 PM No.95951646
>>95950628
Not OP, I just bought the first 2 modules for Foundry in a recent Cubicle 7 sale. Is there an intro one-shot adventure that you'd recommend running before players get into the campaign to acclimate them to the world? I got the starter set but I read opinions it's not a good introduction.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:24:01 PM No.95951806
>>95950488 (OP)
Nonsensical plot that's railroaded to shit and massively overhyped.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:27:24 PM No.95951839
>>95951646
I just had my party start in the coaching inn that the scenario starts with. Can't give you a recommend on this, sorry.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:51:13 PM No.95952037
>>95951646
nta, but TEW doesn't really need it, the camping, or at least the first section of it, was meant to be an extended tutorial to the system, and the setting.
If you want to have a prologue adventure, Night of Blood is probably your best bet since it's Free and covers many of the same bullet points as TEW
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:04:15 AM No.95953431
>>95950488 (OP)
You posted the worst version
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:24:15 AM No.95953564
>>95950628
Meh, 3e was pretty solid. It was handled abysmally though with core WH stuff spread out across multiple supplements making it retardedly expensive. The actual game itself was pretty good.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:27:24 AM No.95953585
>>95953431
It was a good system. Just handled really, really bad because FFG is constantly trying to steal Wizards crown of "Company that fucks up more than anyone else".
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:28:43 AM No.95953593
>>95950488 (OP)
TEW is complete ass, don't understand why it gets hyped up so much
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:40:27 AM No.95955302
>>95950488 (OP)
FWIW I'd go grab the latest 4e version from Cubicle 7. It's a 5-part campaign with 2 books per campaign (one adventure module, and one information module). The info module isn't necessary.
For the 4e re-release they tried to open the story up a bit and get it off the rails a little.
>https://cubicle7games.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=enemy+within
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:55:25 AM No.95955358
>>95955302
A little bird told me you can find it in the WFRP trove.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:03:13 AM No.95955391
>>95950488 (OP)
I ran it 20 years ago. It was fun, but the different adventures are basically not related to each other, so I don't know that I'd call it a campaign.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:11:47 AM No.95955424
>>95955391
>basically not related to each other, so I don't know that I'd call it a campaign.
The 4e rereleased resolved a lot of this, as they planned the whole thing out in advance instead of adhoc-ing it as they went like in 1e.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:33:11 AM No.95955475
>>95955424
Good.
For some of the other remastered 4e adventures I've ran both the 2e and 4e version, and generally the new version just had a bit better presentation and sometimes some extra npc's tacked on to flesh things out.

Maybe I should have a look at new 4e
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:36:28 AM No.95955484
>>95955475
It's essentially benefiting from hindsight. The new authors can look at what came before, analyse, reference their own experience playing 1e, playtest, etc, and then implement the best changes.
I highly recommend it, and the companion books too if you can spare the extra dosh. Heaps of good side-stuff in them.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:40:59 AM No.95955498
>>95955475
>>95955484
To add to this, Cubicle 7 have added "Grognard Boxes" to the information contained in the campaigns, which are meant to provide players who've already done the adventure before new alternative ways and means so the game stays fresh and exciting.
Further, Graeme Davis was involved in most of the re-write, and he wrote both 1e and 2e WHFRP.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:43:56 AM No.95955504
>>95955498
>Grognard Boxes
That's cute. Only 1 of my old players are still around, and I don't think he'll remember enough that this will be necessary. I've heard him retelling the campaign to others, and he seems to only have a heavily skewed highlight reel left in his brain.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:44:22 PM No.95956046
>>95955358
/wfrp doesn't exist anymore, or was moved.

Spoonfeed pls?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:59:49 PM No.95958239
>>95956046

/wfg/-Warhammer Fantasy General
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:44:47 PM No.95958458
>>95955475
4e as a game is desperately in need of a revised edition.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:48:11 PM No.95958479
>>95958458
I don't like WFRP in general but holy shit 4e is rough. The design and layout of the books is genuinely schizophrenic.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:10:07 AM No.95960824
>>95958458
>>95958479
You're not wrong. I played 4e since release up until only quite recently, and we still had to flip through sections of the various books to find even basic information.
Cubicle 7 have some very talented writers and designers. Editors? Not so much.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:49:01 AM No.95961313
>>95960824
It could be worse; they could be Catalyst.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:57:08 AM No.95961364
>>95961313
>Could be R.Tal.
>Could be Mophidius
>Could be Free League
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:42:37 AM No.95962351
>>95958479
>>95960824
They need to put all of the systems that are spread out over like ten different books into an actual core book.

It's crazy how much better the 2e core book is.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 7:44:01 AM No.95969289
>>95962351
>It's crazy how much better the 2e core book is.
It's not just the Core, every supplement was of equal worth and had fantastic editing.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:55:52 AM No.95969587
>>95969289
Oh, 100 percent. 2nd edition definitely had some stinkers, but the line overall is one of the best of all time. I was more speaking to how much it pisses me off that 2nd edition is relatively complete. You can run an entire campaigns' worth of games with just what is in the core book. I do not feel that way about 4th Ed, it's really a huge step backwards in that way. And I feel like C7 turned around and did the same fucking thing with Imperium Maledictum. Very frustrating company.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:17:32 AM No.95970139
>>95961364
Free League, at the very least, puts out slick products
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:04:15 AM No.95974356
>>95970139
Very much this.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:16:27 AM No.95974431
>>95961364
Are Free League games poorly edited? I haven't done a deep dive on any of them.

Are there any publishers that actually do well with editing and layout? I feel like Pelgrane is pretty good.