Redpill me on NARRATIVE. What is it? And why are some people so afraid of narratives which they think are false or which they don't like? Is there such a thing as true and false narratives? Can a false narrative be refuted with truth? Or is it a matter of might makes right, whoever is the best at pushing his narrative wins?

>Not so much like drops of water, though water, it is true, can wear holes in the hardest granite; rather, drops of liquid sealing-wax, drops that adhere, incrust, incorporate themselves with what they fall on, till finally the rock is all one scarlet blob.

>'Till at last the child's mind is these suggestions, and the sum of the suggestions is the child's mind. And not the child's mind only. The adult's mind too--all his life long. The mind that judges and desires and decides--made up of these suggestions. But all these suggestions are our suggestions!' The Director almost shouted in his triumph. 'Suggestions from the State.'

>>95982903 (OP)
This is /tg/ my man, you seem to want narrative in it's political context where it essentially means the same as lens.

In idiot politics a given side has a narrative it uses to characterize people and events, which it uses as a sophistic tool in lieu of data or ethics or principles

But thats not really my department, i just want to know if theres orcs in the locked room

>>95982903 (OP)
Basically, companies want as many people to buy their slop as possible. You, a dude with disposable income, are their core audience but they hate you. They want their RPGs to be a lifestyle brand.
They want a 'better class of audience' (i.e. gay, black, faggots, women. 20+ sexually and racially ambiguous mystery meat) and are betting on the fact that you will still buy <<<PRODUCT>>> while putting up with their bullshit.
Now obviously you don't want their bullshit, so their fallback is to call you sexist and / or racist.

>>95982994
I posted it on /pol/ but someone recommended I post it here. I don't know anything about what this board is about, and I don't know anything about games, but I thought I'd give it a try.

>>95982994
>>95983030
Also what got me thinking about this stuff was Wyatt Stagg's videos. I made another thread where I talked about that.

>>>/pol/508934993

>>95982903 (OP)
Narrative? Like narrative dice?
That's the engine that runs Genesys and the FFG Star Wars games. The result for any given roll is rarely a flat pass/fail state and the GM and players dictate how the dice pool results translates into a game state furthering the story along from a narrative sense.

>>95982903 (OP)
Try a dictionary you stupid faggot.

>>95982903 (OP)
post this on /lit/ where they'll call you a retard or /his/ where they'll try to convert you

>>95982903 (OP)
Traditional games?

>>95983230
As I said I don't know anything about games or this board. What kind of games is it about? I'm imagining some of the games have this whole fictional universe, perhaps a bit like science fiction novels, and science fiction novels while fictional often have the kind of complex narrative you have in religion, politics etc, same with movies, just watch Wyatt Stagg for an example, fiction, and yet it ties into the real world.

>>95983245
So it's an off topic thread?

>>95983245
Oh so you are a fag!

>>95983245
Tabletop games my guy. Board games, war games, chess and cards technically, and of course roleplaying games. Narrative means different things for different games

>board game
Generally its the "fluff" of it, but it can inform strategy too. Talisman and catan come to mind, understanding the intended "story" can help you intuit strategies
>war games
A setting can have a narrative (ww2 in the case of bolt action) that informs when units show up in the timeline and such, but it can also refer to a narrative campain, reenacting a series of cannonical or hypothetical battles with continuity between each. Battletech and AOS both have rhobust campaign systems.
>chess/cards
Too abstract, i dont know of any game narrative for them. Magic the gathering has a setting narrative (story) though
>RPGs
Contentious, because you can have a gamebook written to be a "narrative game", and individual table running a game in a narrative style, AND the general narrative that unfolds inherently when characters take actions. None of those ideas are clearly defined and most people seem to want to be in the middle of all three, but cant agree on where it is or how to get there. If thats what you meant specifically its a big subject thats as much technique as it is theory, so it might be better with its own topic in a new thread. Its only a matter of time before this one goes sideways