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The 1st of July in (mostly) military history:
552 โ Battle of Taginae: Byzantine forces under Narses defeat the Ostrogoths in Italy, and the Ostrogoth king, Totila, is mortally wounded.
1097 โ Battle of Dorylaeum: Crusaders led by prince Bohemond of Taranto defeat a Seljuk army led by sultan Kilij Arslan I.
1431 โ The Battle of La Higueruela takes place in Granada, leading to a modest advance of the Kingdom of Castile during the Reconquista.
1520 โ Spanish conquistadors led by Hernรกn Cortรฉs fight their way out of Tenochtitlan after nightfall.
1690 โ War of the Grand Alliance: Marshal de Luxembourg triumphs over an Anglo-Dutch army at the battle of Fleurus.
1690 โ Glorious Revolution: Battle of the Boyne in Ireland (as reckoned under the Julian calendar).
1782 โ Raid on Lunenburg: American privateers attack the British settlement of Lunenburg, Nova Scotia.
1841 โ Thomas Lempriere and James Clark Ross carve a marker on the Isle of the Dead in Van Diemen's Land to measure tidal variations, one of the earliest surviving benchmarks for sea level rise.
1862 โ American Civil War: The Battle of Malvern Hill takes place. It is the last of the Seven Days Battles, part of George B. McClellan's Peninsula Campaign.
1863 โ American Civil War: The Battle of Gettysburg begins.
1881 โ General Order 70, the culmination of the Cardwell and Childers reforms of the British Army, comes into effect.
1898 โ SpanishโAmerican War: The Battle of San Juan Hill is fought in Santiago de Cuba, Cuba.
1911 โ Germany dispatches the gunboat SMS Panther to Morocco, sparking the Agadir Crisis.
1915 โ Leutnant Kurt Wintgens of the then-named German Deutsches Heer's Fliegertruppe army air service achieves the first known aerial victory with a synchronized machine-gun armed fighter plane, the Fokker M.5K/MG Eindecker.
1916 โ World War I: First day on the Somme: On the first day of the Battle of the Somme 19,000 soldiers of the British Army are killed and 40,000 wounded.
1917 โ World War I: Russia launches an offensive against Austria-Hungary to capture Galicia, its final offensive of the war.
1917 โ Chinese General Zhang Xun seizes control of Beijing and restores the monarchy, installing Puyi, last emperor of the Qing dynasty, to the throne. The restoration is reversed just shy of two weeks later, when Republican troops regain control of the capital.
1942 โ World War II: First Battle of El Alamein.
1946 โ Crossroads Able is the first postwar nuclear weapon test.
1947 โ The Philippine Air Force is established.
Today is 110 years since Kurt Wintgens achieved the first aerial victory with a synchronised machinegun.
On 1 July 1915, Leutnant Wintgens was flying the last-produced example of the five Fokker M.5K/MG production prototype Eindecker aircraft, with German military serial number E.5/15, and at 18:00 that evening he engaged a Morane-Saulnier Type L "Parasol" two-seater. The French aircraft was most likely from Escadrille M.S.48, and flown by Capitaine Paul du Peuty, with Sous-Lieutenant de Boutiny as the observer.
The French aviators reported that they were engaged by a "Fokker Monoplane" at 1,300 meters over the Fรดret de Parroy, near the village of Lunรฉville. The French aircraft was armed with only a carbine, while the Fokker had a forward-firing, synchronized Parabellum MG 14 machine gun. After a few minutes of combat with the Fokker, de Peuty was wounded in the lower right leg. The Eindecker seemed to have been hit by de Boutiny's carbine fire. De Boutiny had exhausted all of his carbine ammunition, leaving his own aircraft defenseless, which gave the Eindecker the advantage, and shortly thereafter the Eindecker likewise wounded de Boutiny in the leg.
Despite their injuries, the French aircrew landed their Morane Parasol safely, in friendly territory, although their own engine had been hit by dozens of shots from E.5/15's machine gun fire, with the combat taking place in the Lorraine sector
One of the reasons why I chose this topic was it seemed appropriate with probably our most prolific poster choosing WWI aircraft as his next project.
While the air war went back and forth with periods of supremacy for one side and slaughter for the other, the nature of the air dimension does make for some very engaging and entertaining wargamingโ particularly for group games. While I haven't played a great variety, and no hard-nosed systems either, Wings of War is a game which has had surprising spread in the past (I've even played it after hours at the clubrooms after 40k tournaments in my youth), and I have had tremendously good fun with a homebrew WWI dogfighting system at my old club involving hidden and simultaneous movement planned on a magnetic board. Other posters will, no doubt, be able to offer more serious suggestions to play out the air war, and I'd encourage it. The aerial dimension of the Great War offers high drama to any type of player throughout the conflict.
I am becoming so passionate about ultramodern wargaming, I always dismissed it as "boring" because it's too familiar. But after I played a game of Spectre Operations I am hooked.
It's also a very cool period to game because we know EXACTLY how it's fought, so their is a lot of realism in the rules compared to older period rules which are often based on guesses and abstraction
>>95991947>I always dismissed it as "boring" because it's too familiarI mean, that's an odd thing to say. Modern warfare is pretty alien to me and to most people. Unless you've been a private/NCO and a CO during wartime and were actually deployed. Even then, what war, what branch, what country?
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>>95990293>I think even at small company levels there was still a lot of give and takeThat's true on the Western Front too, the speed at which the overall front lines are moving don't matter as much as you think for the individual groups.
>but I seem to recall that cavalry was still used right up until 1917 (and then again in the RCW)That's false. Cavalry was used by some countries who were on the western front into WWII. The British were using Cavalry through-out the western front, it didn't stop in 1916 nor was it limited to the Western front.
Cavalry wasn't used by the Germans, only by the Russians and to a far lesser extent the Austro-Hungarians. Unless we want to start talking about the Balkan and Ottoman fronts as part of the Eastern Front. In which case I don't know... but the Russians and the Austrians weren't doing much pushing (at least not until Russia had fallen into a different war)
>>95992734Sandniggers Vs Proud Boys is the default, as it should be. Skirmish Sangin can be a bit fiddly at first but it plays well.
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>>95994627I mean let's put it this way. I have SEEN videos of Russian and Ukrainians squads fighting in a field akin to what we picture a generic WWII table looking like.
In 7 months Russia had fallen from a maximum advance to the City of Mykolaiv all the way to losing Kherson. The distance between Mykolaiv and Kerson is ~35 miles as the crow flies.
In 5 months the Central Powers had fallen from a maximum advance to the City of Amiens all the way to losing Albert which is ~20 miles as the crow flies.
I mean these are some of the fastest moving fronts in their respective wars, but the idea of a completely static frontline is a myth. If we had hour to hour accounts of where all the troops in WWI were at any given time the front lines even when they didn't leave an area would "jitter" as local battles push the frontline yards forward before getting pushed back, in repeated zero sum gains. It was never ALL two trenches shooting each-other until one ran out of ammo.
>>95994642Question: did you read the post you replied to?
Facebook boomers produce the most kino wargaming terrain, it's actually insane.
Note the 28mm nigga at the bow for scale
>>95990615 (OP)>HIStorical wargameswhen will we have HERstorical Wargames?!
>>95995814my dad just retired, he said he was maybe interested in making terran. I should gaslight him into my little personal sweatshop terrain making factory.
>>95980134>>Crossfire >I'll get back to you later, run out of time before I need to get back on the boat. He did not
>>95997245I have tested Crossfire but Bolt Action remains far better
>>95997345Doesn't this general hate Bolt Action?
>>95997384Tells you how bad Crossfire is I guess
>>95997384There are 1-2 shizos that hate everything popular, which obviously comes down to Bolt Action and Warlord Games. But they also hate FoW and Saga when those games were popular.
>>95997384Bolt Action is OKAY, its far from "bad" but it also, even in this new edition (which so far IS the best edition) has a few kind of large issues still that keep it from really being great
Then with warlord themseves their plastic infantry has gotten alot better, basically anything after the british airborne is fine, and anything since the french and italian release are actually good sculpts (and anything in 3rd edition has many more options for plastic weapon teams)
But their vehicles really do suck. Some of the sculpts are fine but theyre super out of scale, and any of the italeri kits are pretty bad
>>95997245Bugger me, be patient for fuck's sake
>>95997680It's has been 60 hours
>>95997718Would you rather me post dogshit whenever I can or something slightly less garbage but which takes more time?
>>95997245Other anon seems to be too lazy to give an answer.
I urge you to watch that video if not already done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-UKiy5dvPI
>>95997660I think most of the italeri kits are quite good. Their Kv-1/2 dual kit is good, their Stuart is nice, their Hetzer is nice. I don't see an issue there, but I have not build all the vehicles, so maybe there are some bad ones too.
>>95997660>super out of scaleI actually don't mind this, because 1/48th scale models would be more correct but would take up way too much of the board.
>>95997823I basically said I was too busy to make the new thread and you useless fucks still left it to me anyway, now you're calling me lazy for not replying immediately
fuck it, you don't need my opinions on crossfire, I'll save them for some other time
>>95997881Why do you type like a teenage girl does in her group chat?
>>95997937Why are you an expert on how teenage girls type?
>>95997939...because I was in high school three years ago.
>>95997974How long before the police realized and forced you to leave school grounds and register?
How do we fell about FoW Pacific?
>>95998298I am too busy right now.
I will write a comprehensive opinion later
That's all the theaters, isn't it? Are we excluding Italian Orient Africa specifically?
...or is China and India, like considered the Asia theater, while the Pacifc front is only Island territories and Malaysia. Anyway, if you have the rules for North Africa, don't you have the rules for the horn already? The same goes for China and India, too. It's not like vastly different equipment was being used by the Nipponese, at least not the IJA occupied islands, in the mainland vs the pacific.
What did the Wikimedia foundation mean by this?
>>95998395>Are we excluding Italian Orient Africa specifically?No I think that just gets rolled into North Africa because of their control of Libya.
>...or is China and India, like considered the Asia theaterYeah, they're Asia/Pacific theater.
I don't play the game but I'm sure the sourcebooks have all you need for East Africa, China, or India. I was going through a Warlord Era phase and was reading some of the books of an older edition and they certainly had China in there.
>>95997522Well, to be fair "popular" seems to be synonymous with "bad" these days. Look at Marvel films and Taylor Swift and Warhammer 40k. The things that seem to appeal to the normie masses don't necessitate quality, they are average, midwit, etc. just like the mass market they appeal to.
Bolt Action is fun, and I genuinely enjoy playing the game, but as a WW2 historical game it is certainly bad when you compare it to literally anything else produced. BA only took off because it appealed to the 40k crowd both in marketing and with it's creators association.
Warlord Games is certainly a shitty company, their models are exceedingly low equality and their prices are exorbitantly high, with constant bi-annual price hikes just like Games Workshop.
Can't say much about FoW and SAGA, but FoWs parking lot simulator is a valid criticism. i played SAGA once and it was frankly dogshit. The stupid battle board system is a gimmicky board game mechanic and detracts from any a historical realism, instead turning the different armies into videogamified schlock
>>95998535>their models are exceedingly low equality and their prices are exorbitantly highYou are trying too hard.
>>95998535These are all fair points, but they also miss the point: BA, FoW and Saga may not be deeply historical wargames, but they are successful as *games* - you have a good probability of being play a somewhat balanced game to completion inside 2 hours against somebody you've never met before. They won't give you a detailed simulation of the Battle of Dilligaf, but they're not necessarily aiming to. They're a different product for a different market.
>>95998669One shitty release means all their miniatures are bad.
As I said, you are trying too hard.
>>95998703>one bad releasekek
What are you getting out of simping for Warlord Games? She's not gonna have sex with you
>>95998693I disagree wkth some of what you said, but I'll agree for the sake of argument and just say, if that were true then it should be obviously why they're dismissed on a group made for historical wargaming. As you say, different product different market. We (historical wargamers) are not the market, normies are, so it shouldn't come as a surprise when we don't like these games.
I don't like the Panzer VII as a heavy tank design. It just looks like a bigger Panzer V. The IS-2 and M26 are immediately distinct from the T-34 and the M4.
>>95999032>wespeak for yourself Anon.
>>95999317You're not a historical gamer. Post models
>>95999541>Post modelsDone
>>95996116Reminds me that I still have to paint my ACW infantry. My dad is a model railroader and builds his track setups, so he's pretty good with terrain.
What is the color of french uniforms in WW2, brownish or greenish?
As someone a good source/pictures?
>>96000112Literally just Google it you dumb nigga
>>96000238The problem is that the color is neither the same from one source to another... I am just looking for something accurate.
And your photo is fake, it's not french, he has no red pants.
>>96000301>Assuming that dye and uniform manufacturing was standardized to such a high level that all the khaki was identical
How many anons actually post itt? I feel like I'm constantly seeing the exact same writing pattern and mannerisms, and the same few things posting their models. There has to be less than a dozen of us
>>96000403There is only you and me.
>>96000403It's all me. You are also not you, you are me.
>>96000616I told you we are only 2, so, you are responding to yourself just to get '(you)'
>>96000548>POST GAMESDone
>>96000403I almost never post these days, barely have time to paint. Work, chores, dog and gf take all my time.
>>96000301>it's not french, he has no red pantsThey got rid of those in WW1. They moved to fully blue (lighter) uniforms then made the move to khaki in the leadup to WW2.
>>96000403I'd post models but I usually end up selling the stuff I paint and i'm paranoid one of you cunts will fuck me over for fun
>>95998693Nah but thats the main thing about FoW it's unbalanced as hell and competitive lists can stomp historical or rounded ones pretty hard akin to 40k so it doesn't really work as a fun pick up game either.
>>96002248Why is there no roads?
>>96002564The guy who usually brings our roads wasn't there that night.
>>96002171I think he's meming, a few year old at this point but it was a running joke here that French soldiers continuously wore red pants even into world war 2. We'd post images of Franco-Prussian war Paris commune troops and name the file Waffen SS Charlemagne for example.
>>96002908We should never have gotten rid of cool colorful uniforms. I hate camo so much.
>>96000112The Dorling Kindserley uniform books are great and inexoensive. Uniforms of WW2 is like 30 usd on amazon.
>>96002908There were French zouave units in ww2.
>>95998555>>95998669Warlord has nice plastic kits but I don't understand their approach to metal and resin miniatures. It's as if they're pulling the rattiest garage kits out of someones attic on purpose.
>>95990705You're a champion anon. If you or anyone is looking for some good books to read on WWI air warfare I highly recommend
>Oswald Boelcke: Germany's First Fighter Ace and Father of Air Combat by Brg. Gen. R.G Head>Fighting the flying circus by Cap. Eddie Rickenbacker I have had a very long and taxing week but managed to finish a few French planes tonight. They still need their matt coat varnish.
Unrelated: yesterday was the start of the battle of the Somme. I have a great great uncle who went mising in action during that battle, and his name is one of the 72000+ etched in stone at the Thiepval Memorial.
>>95997881I'm one of the baker. I didn't leave it to you, I left it to die.
Between the anon trying to kickstart a shitstorm because someone said sandniggers without pinpointing the exact village but the other anon getting away scot free for a third time posting an obvious /awg/ Weird World War II image... there's an obvious two-tier outrage system at play here so I wouldn't bother giving these freaks a life support line if I were you.
>>95997881Uh oh, someone needs his nappy changed
If I bring an M3 Half Track model and use it as a lead lease M5 for Commonwealth forces, they're so visually similar that anyone who'd complain isn't worth playing with, right?
>>96005276Pretty much: most won't be able to tell the difference.
>>96005328Anyone who can tell the difference but is chill about it is a well-informed person and would make a good friend/history-chatting-partner.
Anyone who can tell the difference and spergs out about it is not worth spending your time with.
>>96005328>>96005335Sounds good. I'll do one up as a tow for a 17 pdr which can also be an infantry transport and one as an ambulance for objectives.
Having a printer is great for saving money, but terrible for keeping my collection to a reasonable size.
I'm alright chewing on projects for when I finish my airplanes and get back from my big job. I'm thinking 15mm RCW/associated conflicts because I found a great source of armored trains. I'll have a pile of money too. New paint set, new project. Can't wait. I fucking love armored trains.
>>95997660>new edition (which so far IS the best editionQuite everyone in our local group thinks the exact opposite.
>>95998535You are aware that Saga never aimed for being historically accurate?
Where's the best place to buy mdf bases in the UK?
Specifically 25mm round ones
>>96006799pendraken or warbases I think, pendraken is cheaper but only has 2mm thick
anyone use removable artillery?
I'm thinking about using a bit of plasticard(probably a bit thicker than this though), and using slightly longer bases
>>96006362Do Ukraine War project
>>96002350FOW is more balanced than BA and always will be, and it's the only thing worth comparing it to. One is trying, one is not.
Is it true that the Japanese during WWII was using a flag nearly identical to their modern flag, and not the one with the bars coming out of circle.
Is this a Confederate States of America issue where something that is not the national flag is pictured as the national flag, for some reason.
...or is this an Austro-Hungarian issue where there is no official national flag for Austria at that time, so you just have to pick another flag they were using to fill that role.
>>96007779A buddy of mine and I have discussed doing a small modern Ukraine War meme project, where one of up paints up a Leddit Legion force and the other paints up a bunch of Norks.
>>96007818The rising sun flag, aka the one with the bars coming out of it with the circle off center to the hoist side of the flag is the Naval flag. The one with the sun centered in the flag is the army flag, and the one without any rays is the national flag.
The military flags have changed, insofar that they're a different shade of red. This triggers the south Koreans, Filipinos, and Chinese.
>>96007842Speaking of IJA, is anyone going to try out the new Japanese stuff for Flames of War?
>>96007842How did the misinformation start and outspread the actual national flag? In both the case of the Japanese and the Confederates?
>>96008860>Attack the D-point!>Never!
>>96008896The IJN flag just ended up being a much more visible symbol of Japan than the national flag during the war and after.
Painted up some more Ukrainians. I attempted to paint their early war MM-14 camo pattern, widely used before they started wearing whatever hand-me-downs they got from the west
>>96008860>>96008926 There is that Russian biased again.
Trying to piece some terrain together to see what I have to recreate the battle of Hostomel Airport. I don't really have much modern terrain, so I've been slowly making some stuff. It's all still a wip, I just laid some stuff out to see what all I might be able to use. I just painted up these little tiles to make a taxi way, but it's not finished and I'm not very satisfied with it. Just made the power lines too, not painted yet. My son already broke one off it's base
>>96008896Okay, so, while not very common anymore every nation has, or had, three distinct national flags. These are the Civil Flag which can be flown by any entity be them government or civilian with in a nation to represent it's nation. The State Flag, capital S state eg the Nation, and this flag is flown by the government of a nation, and it's typically the Civil Flag with the crest of the nation on it. And last the War Flag, and this is the flag of a nations military.
In the case of the United States of America, all these flags are the same. In the case of Imperial Japan, the Hinomaru is both the State and Civil flag, while the Rising Sun is the War Flag, but because the Japanese military was so sharply divided internally both Army and Navy had their own iterations.
It's never really been about misinformation, but about visibility. During war a nation is going to fly it's War Flag more often and with more regularity than it's Civil or State Flag.
The same can be said about the Dixie flag compared to the stars and bars/stainless banner/blood stained banner. Dixie is the CSAs war flag, while the Stars and Bars/stainless banner/blood stained banner were it's Civil and State flags.
In modern times most nations no longer observe these flag principles, the vast majority of countries use the same flag for all three roles.
>>96010776>In modern times most nations no longer observe these flag principles, the vast majority of countries use the same flag for all three roles.Horseshit. My country has ensigns for every state, the navy, army etc
>>96010848Most major powers have historically had flags for their army and navy yes
>>96010776>>96007842Ok, but when making terrain, what flag goes on the flag pole of a nip fort, military base, or administrative building?
>>96002940They are not French, but Belgian.
In the French army, the Zouaves wear red pants.
Printed up two half tracks, one as a tow/transport and one to be an ambulance. Plus a 17 pdr and a lightning gun nobody in this threas should look at.
>>96011206The shade of green is a little off
Does anyone know where I can get the 3rd edition Bolt Action stuff?
>>96011985Warlord games store has it I bet
>>96011985Check tg archive or the pdf share thread
>>96008896>misinformationI don't think it really is misinformation. We just always think about those states mostly because of their involvement in specific wars, so their battle flag or naval flag becomes a very visible national symbol. If you showed the CSA national flag most Americans probably would recognize it. The stars and bars are also well known. The Japanese naval flag specifically brings to mind the Japanese Empire, whereas the national flag doesn't.
>>96010919It depends on the branch that fort, military base, or administration building belongs to.
>>96010848Okay cool, but flags for every state aren't considered when talking about the national flag. Don't conflate The State with a state in the country. These are two different entities in political context. And your country very well may have a war flag, but there are 195 countries in the world only 23 maintain unique and distinct war flags.
i need two US airplanes as markers for my air observer in Bolt Action, but i am not too keen on buying red skies metal planes. can some anon recommend nice smaller plastic planes i could use?
>want to check out ASL
>starter kit out of stock
>ask if they're going to do a reprint
>we'd like to someday ;)
>look for used copies
>300% markup
I guess I either get lucky on ebay or hope it's back in stock sometime in the next few years. Maybe I should just try printing counters myself with some real heavy cardstock.
>>96013536>Want to play ASLJust try digital with Vassal/VASL or Tabletop Simulator
>>96000403I post every now and again, it really depends on how busy I am. I've had a hell of a few months, so havn't really been that active, but there have been times where I've been posting OPs consistantly, it's just swings and roundabouts. I've also been doing non-hwg projects a bit more
>>95990615 (OP)>TQ I really like the Chain of Command Pint sized campaigns. Not too many rules, very little additional bloat (and most of them cut rather than add support option types), but they give a real good sense of push and pull while remaining accurate to the actions they are trying to emulate. Pic related is me prepping a new MG team, which come with entrenchments in the newest edition, as well as a Panzer 4 and a tank scrape. The tank is still pretty tall, so I'm half tempted to buy another one and hack it in half to sit flush to the scrape, but that is a bit more effort for something I won't use 90% of the time.
any recommended scales and games for cold war dogfighting? Do a lot of Vietnam Wargaming and thinking of taking the conflict to the skies.
>>960167751/300 and 1/600 are the most common scales for cold war. Some people do 1/200 just to be cool.
Missile Threat is popular, as is AirWar: C21. and Check your 6: Jet Age
>>95990615 (OP)>>95990629Is there Achtung Panzer anywhere?
Thanks!
>>96017186Im seconding this, havent been able to find it anywhere, Very interested in it as it has alot of the stuff i wish BA's vehicles have
>>96014673>non-hwg projectsI always have brief periods where I get into a sci-fi or Fantasy kick, but really I always end back up at history. Historical games and periods are frankly just so much more interesting
>>95998298It's a good book, army lists are nicely costed and balanced against one another. Things start to fall apart once you want to use pacific lists against easter european ones. AT9 is the most you will get apart from a few AT10 and 90mm AA guns with AT14 for USMC.
Japs are hella fun, the fact that they cant be forced to fall back no matter the hits the suffer in defensive fire makes them play no other army.
>>96014673This image is incomprehensible to me? Did that Panzer IV meld with the the like planter box it is on? Is it supposed to be in a tank trench? A tank trench protects the bottom plate only?
>>96018278I'm in roughly the same boat. There's a few non-hwg games I play on and off (mostly Infinity at the moment), but for longer term projects I almost always end up with historicals.
>>96019740Yes, it's a tank scrape anon, which is exactly what I said in my post. I even said that it's not very tall and the tank isn't shortened at all so I'm not super happy with it. For ease of gameplay it often makes sense to use a small bit of terrain like this to represent a tank trench, rather than take a chisel to my wooden tabletop to have the tank actually depressed into the ground. Do try and keep up.
>>96019931>it's a tank scrape anon, which is exactly what I said in my post>No search engine I've tried will return relavant results for Tank Scrape without search modifiers.You'l have to excuse me for not recognizing your nearly bespoke term for what everyome else calls a tank trench.
>>96020356If you want to be autistic about it, it's a "vehicle fighting position". Googling "tank trench" just turns up ww1 images of tanks stuck in infantry trenches, and has rough partity of searches relating to dug in vehicles as typing in tank scrape. I think it's probably on you if you were unable to understand what I was talking about from context anon.
>>96020356NTA but just because you're uneducated doesn't mean the rest of us are. I knew what anon meant. I've never heard anyone call a tank that's hull down be in a tank trench.
>>96020847>I've never heard of a trench meant for a tank being called a tank trenchAlright, but you would know what it means immediately. It's a literal description. Scrape is a verb.
I HATE AMERICA SO MUCH!!!
>What fighter jet does your nation fly
A: F-22/F-35
B: Outdated systems destined be seal clubbed in any major war
C(hina): J-20
D: Su-57... but in a war with any real nation they will have to fight 25 of the other plans at once.
>>96021017No I would be confused because I know what an anti-tank trench is and I'd think you were poorly describing that instead.
Speaking of trenches: I want to do a three-tier trench line for a Bolt Action/Konflikt 47 table. I don't want vehicles to be entirely out of the game, so I'm considering having the trench network only cover half the table, the justification being that the ground turns rocky enough it can't be dug in, so this is the end of the line where it converts to a series of outposts instead. Do you guys think that's a good way to keep vehicles involved in the gameplay?
The other option is adding bridges over some of the trenches, which seems odd to me.
>>96021897Update: Tracked vehicles can cross trenches, per the rules, so just don't bring wheeled vehicles and we're set.
>>96021897>>96022003Just have a faction appropriate briding support vehicle that you give to your opponent.
>>96022028That would maje sense. Part of my plan is that when the game starts, the attacker has already captured the first trench line, and the defender's force is their reserve rushing up from the rear line. So that it's a roughly even battle in the trenches themselves rather than an uneven frontal assault on a fortified position. Makes better gameplay.
If you have 4 class troops (Green, Trained, Veteran and Elite), which units deserve Elite rating in WW2 Europe?
>>96022930Without being able to name any: if Elite means better than Veteran, they should be troops that were highly trained and that performed well during a particular battle used on a case-by-case basis depending on what battle is being represented on tabletop, not a catch-all rating for a particular regiment.
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>>96022930Green and Trained could potentially mean the same thing. Green is usually untested, but I would take it to mean trained but with 0 experience. Might want a different word for the lowest quality - they have no training and limited equipment
Example of the lowest quality might be Soviet troops that just signed up to fight but no one has yet told them what to do or given them a weapon (yes this is a meme by now, but it's the reality for some Soviet troops in 1941).
Both sides had a mixture:
As for who would be elites in WW2 Europe:
Allies:
1944: Hardened troops that fought in North Africa and Tunisia, and maybe even Italy as well. Airborne might also qualify, but some didn't have that much actual experience. For example I don't think the 101st Airborne actually had much experience before 1944, so would probably rate them "Veteran" or "Trained"
Germans: Various troops from around 1941 onwards who had fought through France and Poland, and especially those who had also seen service on the eastern front and/or North Africa.
Soviets: Limited troops from 1942 onwards would have very good combat experience, even in 1941 they had very good quality Siberian units, and some units with experience in battles like Khalkhin Gol. These excellent quality units would be few and far between until about 1943 or 1944, when the quality of the army as a whole kinda evens out at Veteran.
imo it's all about how much combat experience a specific unit has, and each faction has units available with excellent quality, it would just depend on the period and specific theater. For example, Japanese in Khalkhin Gol certainly aren't going to have any Elite forces, and neither are the Soviets. Germans in Barbarossa would have a good number of Veterans, and some Elite as well.
Germans in North Africa by about 1942 could be considered mostly Veteran or Elite, as they didn't really rotate home or to other theaters (from my memory) and just racked up the experience.
>>96023506I'm scouring the book Ivan's War to find the story of the guy who had to walk to the front after being called up, and I thought I remembered he didn't have a weapon, but honestly it doesn't really specify. He started his journey at a barracks, so I'd assume he probably did have his rifle, but not too sure.
A lot of recruitment stations were set up in school or suchlike, so they'd stamp your papers say you're 'in the army', and that was all you got. No beds, no food, but they all somehow found Vodka...
Especially in June 1941 it was absolute chaos and the recruitment systems weren't ready for the massive influx of patriotic volunteers.
This volunteer was told to join his unit in Lvov, starting in Kiev (544 km), but was given no instructions or provisions for actually getting there. Failure to show up would be desertion though... so he scrambles on to a train, shoving other recruits and people out of the way, but falls off, thankfully his fall was broken by someone else who had also fallen off, otherwise he probably would have broken his back.
>>96023506>I don't think the 101st Airborne actually had much experience before 1944, so would probably rate them "Veteran" or "Trained"I have read an historical account of Easy Company from 101st Airborne written by Ambrose and I have seen the documentary called "Band of Brothers" and I can tell you these men are the finest.
>>96023567Makes me wonder how exactly my great grandfather managed to successfully desert the Tsar's army and escape to America
Brain says be normal and take the vehicles you know were historically worth using. Heart says ignore that crap and take a platoon of M3 Stuarts.
Having a 3d printer means heart will probably win.
Anyone ever notice how when warlord paints holsters, most of the time they end up painting the leather holsters as canvas, and paint the canvas holsters as leather? Small detail but good god when will they learn
>>96023920Did you mean the M3 Lee? The M3 (M2) stuart was an incredibly successful platform.
>>96025181I'm actually using both,
Does anyone make 1/56 scale modern tanks in plastic? Ideally the Leopard 2, T-72, T-80 and Type 99
Would love to game out some skirmishes set in Ukraine and Taiwan.
>>96027433Cowards setting.
It should be America vs Duestchland, France, Italy and Sweden fighting in Iceland, or pre-Ukraine Russia vs China in The Far East Federal District.
>>96017186>>96017434I am specifically looking for a digital copy of Iron Coffins, which has a shit-ton more tanks in it.
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any beginner solitaire hex & counter games you guys can recommend? I like playing PC games like Strategic Command and the Decisive Campaigns games and am looking for something physical as opposed to digital. but again solo / solitaire only please
>>96028665Check out the wargame books by Mike Lambo, cheap and accessible (though you'll have to print the counters yourself)
>>96028441Iron coffins would be nice but i havent seen a single soul post the base rules, much less something that released recently
>>96027433Rubicon's Vietnam stuff is the most "modern" plastics in 1/56. It's just a shit scale. Tamiya has some modern ( like challenger and Abrams) 1/48 tank kits and that's all the options you have in plastic. Get s 3d printer.
>>96027433Better change to 1/72 scale.
>>96029802Are 1/72 kits really appropriate for wargaming? Too many fiddly little pieces, I'd think.
>>96029814There are specific wargaming kits in that scale too. Aside from them, you are right.
I have created a Rick Roll Trove to fulfill some recent requests
https://mega.nz/folder/78pF0CYI#Jc2IO8IQVwRDP1Chwr_iGA
>>96030385I don't need any of these but appreciate you doing this regardless. Can I count on you for Armies of Great Britain once it hits?
>>96030588Of course.
Amicalement, Armand.
>>96030588also humbly hoping for iron coffins since i really wanna play some italians
>>95990615 (OP)Just got the WGA WW1 Russians. Versatile kit...suitable for Boxer Rebellion, Russo Japanese War and Russian Civil War. Nothing else jumps out at me... happy with the sci fi and fantasy kits of theirs I have got with few exceptions. Did not enjoy 1 or 2 at all
Still waiting on my Victrix Late Romans.
Have come up with a hopefully "universal" basing standard taken a little bit from 1 hour wargames. Six 40mm bases a unit. Square for pre breech loading circular for after right up to sci fi...
3 figures: drilled troops incl. Spears, muskets, swordsmen
2 figures: mounted, loose order warband and archers
4 figures: massed levy
So most units will have 15 figures, 1 base being a little scenic filler base with dice frames, a casualty or ammo crates perhaps. Special units will have 10, horde 20.
Larger things like cannon will go on 60mm.
Everything will thus be adaptable to a variety of systems and arrangements without endangering all my work with figure removal. Love it for 15mm metal, less so Victrix spears.
Will still do 5-10 figures "loose" for test models, true skirmish games and my tacky led display case
>>96027469Why would you want to play a 0% probability ultra modern scenario?
>>96030675Ahah, happy to see it wasn't wasted on you. Keep on rolling anon.
>>96032636You really think there is a high likelihood that the PRC and USA will both exist for long enough for the PRC to grow a Navy actually capable of keeping the America Navy from blowing up their invasion craft?
I mean I don't think America will exist in 12 years, and I don't think the Chinese Navy will be up to snuff before then.
Do you think the PRC doesn't want Vladivostok back? The RoC certainly still has the Far East Federal Republic as territory in need of reclaiming.
>>96032747I don't know who do you think I am but I never mentionned Taiwan. I think this "invasion" is absolute bollocks by the US warmachine to legitimize their spending and polarize the World into two new blocks so they don't go gently into the dark without a bang.
It's way more likely for the US to get stuck in Middle East again because Bibi, the warhawks and half the Muslim world is waiting for the Dajjal/Messiah to come for the grand final than for any of your scenarios though.
>>96032938Oh sorry, I was reponding to somebody who was already proposing a 0% chance "hyper modern" senerio.
Why do people respond to posts meant for a specific person, and then get offended when they are assumed to be that specific person?
>>96032997>>96032938I somehow missed Anon claiming that the PRC doesn't want the RoC gone, and that's a lie made up by America. (Of course, the RoC feels the same. It's just not in the position to be the aggressor)
Can somebody tell me why there were several dozen Chinese governments in 1925, but only 9.5 Chinese governments in 1937, then by 1949, there were only 2? No wait sorry my bad the fall of China in the early 1900s and then the dozens of wars to reunifiy China were all American propaganda.
>>96033176NTA but my autism got really excited for blathering about early 20th century China when I saw your post, before I realized the context of your message. Carry on.
>>96032997I'm the anon that flagged your scenarios with a 0% chance of happening. That was my very first interaction with you henceforth your whole Taiwan Invasion rebutal was a bit wasted on me since I don't believe in that too and never argued in favor of it as a credible wargame. I would be really surprised if you choose to be asshurt about it since I guessed you made those scenarios more for fun than as a serious tought experiment.
>>96033176You're missing the point. I'm not claiming they're won't be a reunification. I'm calling out the invasion. Was Hong Kong invaded anon? Was Macau? What is a Special Administrative Region? What is the One Country Two Systems policy? More importantly why are you retarded? Pretty sad you have to go back to 1949 to make a (shitty) point desu. There's been more absorption since and it was all through diplomacy so clearly invading Taiwan would be the outlier, not the trend. It's not a 0% chance scenario as the others but it's not a serious one either.
>>96033439Define the early 20th century? I have no interest in anything post-Qing, pre-1933 happening in China. There are just too many little nations that existed during the 1920s and then didn't exist after the 1920s.
>>96033537>I'm calling out the invasion. Was Hong Kong anon? Was Macau?City states smaller than Luxembourg. They negotiated because they couldn't fight. Resisting the PRC wouldn't be war it would be a massacre.
>There's been more absorption since and it was all through diplomacyYou're delusional if you think Tibet surrendered because they saw the glory of Communism or the superiority of the Chinese race. Tibet spent two years desperately seeking Western support to fight the PRC, but no help would come so they were forced to beg for mercy. This is what Germany did to Czechslovakia "bend the knee or your race will be put into camps" is not diplomacy or peaceful.
>Taiwan would be the outlierAfter all there was no war for Austria, no war for Memel and no war for Czechslovakia, so why would we expect Poland to try to resist?
After all there was no war for Macau, or Tibet, or Hong Kong, so why would the RoC?
>>96034322>Muh Hitler.Update your software grampa. Your reading comprehension is pathetic, you're wasting everyone's time. Check this out:
-You: China will invade Taiwan.
-Me: No they won't.
-You: Yes, they did so much stuff like that between 1925 to 1949.
-Me: Your examples are 75 years old, my examples of diplomatic coercions are 25 years old. There is a new paradigm.
-You: Well Tibet was in 1950!
I know who you are and this conversation is done. Nothing will get through your thick skull. You're not reading, simple as.
Anyone know when Warlord will release the Armies of Great Britain book? I need it to fuel my listbuilding autism
>>96031520The only universal basing system is basing every model individually on 20mm circles or squares and using movement trays for whatever purpose you need them
>>96027433You don't want 1/56 tanks, they're way too small. You want 1/50 tanks, and Empress Miniatures makes all the tanks you mentioned for 28mm.
https://www.empressminiatures.com/vehicles-41-c.asp
Pic related, true scale 1/50 empress BMP-2 next to comically small 1/56 T-34 from Warlord Games. 28mm miniature for scale. The T-34 and BMP-2 are both 22 feet long irl, which illustrates how ridiculously small the 1/56 vehicle is
Speaking of Ukraine War, I just play tested the Asymmetric Warfare ruleset using my wife as an opponent. I'll write my impressions later once I'm off work, but Ill just say now the ruleset is amazing, it accurately simulated small scale modern squad size battle extremely realistically.
Pic related, from the game
>>96038889Nah that's lame
I said I would do some loose ones
Multibasing is quicker to set up and looks better
So what's the deal with 1/72 being almost as expensive as 28mm now? Is this because so many are made in Ukraine?
Asymmetric warfare is when two nations maintain a stable frontline constantly manned with troops, while using the same infantry rifles, same workhorse tank?
>>96039184It's just the name of a ruleset some author chose, try not to get worked up
>>96039198>Assymetical warefare is just the name of the system, not about assymetical warfare You have no idea how much more angry that makes me than if you were just spouting propaganda
>>96039233What no pussy does to a mfer kek
>>96039184The rules were designed with Afghanistan/Iraq and insurgency in mind, but they work very well for Ukraine and other modern near peer conflicts. I've seen people use the rules for bank heist vs police type of scenarios and even Brazilian military vs favela gangs
>>96039175NTA but the price of everything has gone up. The 1/48 tank kits I bought for $12-15 a piece nearly a decade ago are now in the $30-40 range online and I can't even find them locally anymore.
Frankly I'd imagine the demand for 1/72 miniatures has gone down, as well. I'd attribute that mainly due to geezers dying off but surely 3D printing has impacted sales too.
>>96039545I tried to buy a 1/48 helicopter recently... $90. Fucking insane. That would have been $20 a decade ago
>>96039020I love the idea of using toy cars, they're probably so cheap compared to wargaming "models." What scale car do you use?
>>96039545I feel bloody stupid because I had stacks and sold them for not much and now the price is comparable with 28mm in some cases. Possibly also depends on where you live
>>96039870Isn't matchbox comparable to 10-12mm or 1/144?
WARLORD STILL HASN'T RELEASED THE NEW PLASTIC EIR THEY TEASED FIVE FUCKING YEARS AGO
>>96039870>>96039958For ultra modern you're generally supposed to use 1/43 scale cars, and 1/48 for vans and trucks and bigger vehicles. At least that's the sizes the ultra modern community has agree on as being most accurate. The thing about "scale" is that there is no regulatory body ensuring consistency, so take the scale measurements with a grain of salt.
Pic related is a 1/43 car, the UPS truck I posted above is 1/48
What did Hungary do to be erased from all wargame rules?
>>96034005The 1920s is my favorite period, but the whole run from the fall of the Qing through the end of the second world war.
>>96040727I don't know man, I could never bring myself to learn about the Bing-shu-dong-shu clique, and how it was annexed by the Shu-dong-quay clique, and how it that war was diffrent than the Guy-led clique annexing the Vee-shong clique. Asking me to remember the nine China's that fought in WWII and how they differ from each other is already a lot.
>>96040727>>96040919>China China is weird to me. Why would anyone want to play as weaklings with comically small phallus?
>>96040960>weaklingsYou'll note that China won WWII
>>96040960Wow I haven't seen you post in forever. Keep on being a size queen!
>>96040919Ah but that's what I find so interesting. The Anhui clique, the Zhili clique, the Fengtain clique, the ever present Ma clique. All squabbling over bits of land and shreds of resources, all vying to control Peking and be recognized internationally. So many interesting personalities and generals and throw in the western gunboats and Japanese meddling and it's just my absolute favorite period. The Zhili-Anhui war, the Zhili-Fengtain war, the central plains war, plus the brutal wars that the Ma fought against the Tibetans and the wacky shit going on with RCW spill over in Mongolia and Sinkiang with whites, reds, the Barron and others all make it very exciting. It is excessively complicated yes, but it scratches an itch for me. The Nanjing decade post 33 with the end of the northern expedition is also a fascinating period, but understanding what led up to all that is just delightful.
>>96041096I like how none of the Chinas that were named made it to 1930, except the Ma Clique.
>>96041224Yes by the end of the Northern Expedition the majority of the warlords were either defeated, pledged allegiance to the KMT government, or were annexed by Japan. But that's not to say there weren't warlords still kicking around through the 30s. The Shansi and Yunnan Cliques existed throughout the 20s until 1949. Hell, the Ma kept fighting an anti commie guerilla campaign through the 50s. There were less than 20 major cliques and dozens of smaller ones, and by the 1930s that was only reduced to about half. It's a falsehood to believe that the KMT ruled over a fully unified and coherent China throughout the 30s and 40s.
Started a new rebels and patriots campaign with the gf, she the British I'm the Americans
The British were tasked with holding 2 fences, with the one in the north being a sunken road providing hard cover. The American force must capture the road in the north.
British forces were 3 light Infantry with the good shooter trait, plus one small militia unit(due to a trait of the British officer), a total of 42 men, which were deployed behind the fence in the south which provided light cover.
The Americans had 1 unit of regular line infantry, which the commander was part of, 3 large units of green line infantry and 4 large units of militia, a total of 138 men, and deployed in the forest to the south of the fence.
I thought the sheer number of troops would pour enough firepower into the British to break them, but even with the advantage of 1st fire, it turned out very early on that the numerically inferior British force had the shooting advantage.
The American troops were spread out and most had to score very high on the dice to even take an action.
In a blunder at the beginning of the game, the British commanders unit advanced forward into the open ground ahead of the fence, yet the American shots had no effect, most likely due to the light infantry counting open ground as cover.
The British infantry were able to focus fire and inflict severe casualties on the American commanders unit, causing him to be badly wounded, with the unit fleeing the field. This caused a chain rout among the militia units, but 2 of the green regular units escaped in good order, and the British were relentless in their fire, inflicting even more casualties in the rout. Despite the loss, the American commander was praised in the press for his "true grit", insisting to stay and fight as he lay wounded, he was forcefully carried off the field by his men.
The British suffer 10 casualties, with 4 being local militia, while the Americans suffer 20.
>>96041303Have you been reading my posts? I have repeatedly said there were 9 Chinas fighting during WWII. I'm not sure how you you could think that I think there was only the Nationalist Chinese if you read a single one of my posts.
>>96042231>THEY DON'T READ!And here we go again, lel. Typos already so we're past Level 2. Nice start.
>>96042218Nice AAR, hope there will be a follow up.
>>96042231I never accused you of believing there was, it was simply a statement. Unbunch your panties.
>>96042352>Nice AAR, hope there will be a follow up.there will be :)
we had a pretty good campaign last time but I've got more painted stuff and terrain now
once this campaign is finished(no idea when), we'll probably start an ACW one
>>96039020>>96042218>playing with women just the thought makes me ill
>>96040118They'll be in siocast now, so who cares?
>>96039020Post your wife
>>96042218Post your gf
>>96040540What did they do? Why are they banned?
Work has been very hard and it has been very hot so my painting has been stagnated. However some 1915 French are done* except that I need to matt coat the fighters.
2 Nieuport 10c, 1 Moraine Saulnier N, and a wacky two seater, a SPAD S.A. it's second seat and defensive gun is mounted in a nacelle that's Infront of the propeller. A terrible design.
>>96038990>you dont want 1/56 tanks, theyre way too small.its nothing to do with the scale its all to do with warlord
rubicon are 1/56 and are actually in scale with 28mm miniatures, the reason why warlord is small is because theyre "true scale" 1/56 but their infantry is heroic 1/56 (and rubicon is more scaled to that)
>>96044338What the fuck are you talking about. It's either 1/56 or it's not 1/56. A Rubicon T-34 will be the same size, and not magically the same size of Anons BMP. It will be just as tiny next to it.
>>96007781>Blatant favortism towards germany and america>Late-war power creep>Berlin germany>Everything soviets>Germany fielding larger better equipped armies than the soviets in most late-war books>Brigade panthers>German training tanks>Armored cars, light tanks, and halftracks being cheaper than infantry>Mid-war tank destroyers hit on 4+ being cheaper than medium tanks hit on 2+ or 3+>Blatant amount of units that are statistical upgrades to others>US M3 Lee spam>The worst LOS rules everDynamic points helps but barely
I was considering doing a full three tier trench network for Bolt Action, but I'm leaning against it now. It's a lot more printing and painting for something I'll probably only fully use a few times.
What do you guys think? Should I stick with what I have with just a few bonuses? Maybe do two layers?
>>96044538Looks like you've got plenty. You can keep the project at it's current size, and if you find yourself wanting more, just print and finish some extra.
Have enough finished for oathmark, but not quite enough finished for lion rampant yet
10x foot men-at-arms
10x spearmen
20x archers
5x heavy cav
5x mounted archers
have 3 more units to paint for all the 10x units to be 12x and 5x units to be 6x
>>96044359...or it will be advertised as 1/56th and they will be lying?
>>96044338There is not a single 1/56 tanks manufacturer who's models are true scale to ANY 28mm infantry figures. Warlord infantry are thicker with big hands but they are the same HEIGHT as Empress or Perry or any other manufacturer with a more "realistic" proportion, and we use HEIGHT to determine scale. Compare a tank commander popping out of a hatch on a Warlord tank to an infantry figure and you'll notice the tank commander that came with the tank is MUCH smaller than the infantryman.
>>96045819Case in point, Warlord American infantry and Warlord Sherman tank crewman
>>96045819>>96045858>>96044338I don't worry about making my infantry and tank minis line up because that'd lead to my tanks being too big or my infantry too small for good gameplay
Do you guys think I have a big enough motor pool for my Brits?
>>96046185Still need a Valentine and a Dingo. Maybe a some cruisers if you're feeling frisky.
>>96045858did you use a violet wash on the face?
>>96046203I tried looking and didn't find a decent Dingo STL. I'll keep an eye out though.
I'm also considering some Kangaroo Rams for later in the war, but I'm not really sure how to make solid use of APC infantry in Bolt Action.
>>96046185>British Motor Pool>At least 1/3rd is American made
>>96046243My grandpa mentioned kangaroo carriers to me at one point. I remember him saying that they used Stuarts briefly and then later priests.
>>96046324The Stuarts' turrets are removable, I could rig up an M2 that fits on the turret ring to serve as a Start carrier. Priests would be a good later option.
>>96046296Are you surprised? There was a lot of Lend-Lease happening.
>>96045914You went from saying 1/56 tanks are the right scale and now you're coping and saying you know they're wrong you just don't care
>>96046365>The Stuarts' turrets are removableThat's ashame. Ah well. I'm just reaching to remember his stories and the details he told me. Guys been gone 13 years now. I remember you saying your project scope was North Africa, he was with the 8th after that from 43 through the end of the war.
>>96046386I'm accounting for later stuff a little bit, hence that Cromwell that isn't in Caunter camo, but yeah North Africa is my focus. With a dash of Italy and a little bit of Konflikt '47 silliness
>>96046365>Are you surprised? There was a lot of Lend-Lease happening.No but you put this list together, I wouldn't be supprised to see Brtiitsh soldiers equipped entirely with American gear, in real life. I would rather play another nation than accept lend lease over domestic equipment.
>>96046453Well, if I feel like running a purely Made I'm Britain list, I've got the Matildas and the Carrier platoon. But the Grant is goofy and weird so I expect to use it a lot.
>>96045914>Tanks too bigThis is the stupidest cope I always see. You'll only have 1-2 vehicles on the table for a game of BA or CoC, that's like 2 extra square inches of space they take up on the table total. It makes no difference.
>>96046589So you're fine if I bring a 1/48th scale Maus tank?
>>96046619No you can't bring a Panzer VIII because this is historical wargames general and the Panzer VIII never existed.
>>96046619I don't play alt history, so no. Size wise it would be cool though. As a general rule for the future, if you have to cherry pick and grasp at straws to try and illustrate your point you should probably take a step back and think about whether your argument is worth making or not
It's wild to see all the anons vehemently defending WG shitty small tanks. Is it because of sucken cost fallacy?
>>9604754228mm is for art fags, realm men play in 15
I like to defend little "shitty" tanks, but in like a historical context. Not model companies shrinkflating the customer out of money.
I'm still upset that retard said the M3 performed poorly and then didn't accept he was wrong.
>>96048680>Laughs in 2mmGet on my level, scrub
Anyway, my friend and I tried out Pillage on Saturday, my Celts phoning in as Picts raiding his Norman lands. The first thing I noted where the lists, each list has different prices for equipment, so the Normans only pay 5 gold for shields and armour but I payed 10 and 30 respectively, but he had to pay for spears, slings, and javelins, whilst I got them for free. The end result is that my army was mostly composed of unarmoured spearmen and a couple of slingers, with only a few men having shields, whilst his had two fully armoured knights (one his leader), and a bunch of shield using spearmen with 2 archers in support. I also had a warhound pack.
>>96049259The game progressed well, I released my hounds too early and on a poor target, but my opponent played too passively, allowing me to take the initiative, so I swung my Right with my Leader and a few spearmen tackling the Norman spears behind the hedge, then followed through into his archers. His Spearmen on the other flank got cut down and his knights charged in too late to be effective, one being unhorsed. I did lose my dogs and a slinger to effective archery, but it was a worthwhile sacrifice.
>>96049376Our second game was a larger 350 point affair. I upgraded my leader to a Dog Lover, and purchased a second dog handler, now having 4 dogs per handler instead of 3, added in some more spearmen, and a pair of javelin armed skirmishers, and a man with a big doot. Meanwhile, my opponent, smarting at his loss, evolved his tactics back to his favourite, cra-sorry, I mean Roman Testudo. 15 men, 14 warriors in armour with shields and spears, and his leader in full armour, carrying a shield and a Danish Axe. They advanced up to form a shield wall.
This wall of armour seems imposing but for one minor thing, armour reduces your movement, so my men where moving at either 8" or 7" if they had a shield, meanwhile his where only moving 6" and this dropped when they formed a shieldwall, allowing me to maintain my range and pelt his men with slings and javelins as the warriors and dog handlers surrounded him.
>>96049433The pelting was largely ineffective, with the Javelins frequently getting caught in the hedge (you roll 1d6 per obstacle/figure the shot passes through, on a 4+ it passes, on a 1-3 it hits that instead), but eventually the slingers claimed a man and my opponent had had enough. Both his shield walls (for he formed a second 5 man one directly behind his main one) exploded and men went everywhere, with the Slingers being surprised and caught then killed, but the Javelin skirmishers happily running away. Little did he know, he had just played into my hand, and my Leader charged the three men whom had gone after the slingers, leading his warriors against them and cutting them down, with one pict killing his foe as his opponent killed him. The skirmishers ran away, pelting the spearmen with javelins and killing another, whilst the other warriors held their ground the the hounds where unleashed.
>>96049485The resulting battle was brutal as morale began to take a toll on both sides (once you drop below 60% you have to roll 1d6 for each none-leader at the start of your turns. On a '1' the model flees and is removed). One of the spearmen hunting the skirmishers ran, but the other managed to catch one of the men and cut him down, whilst the weight of numbers began to overwhelm the Normans.
Eventually, as Turn 8 finished, my opponent was left with just his leader and a single spearman left, though the Picts where not doing much better either, but still had a few men, a dog handler with 3 hounds (the other 3 where loose), and one skirmisher. Still, it was technically a Norman win as he had killed/driven off more of my men than I had his, though as I pointed out, I physically couldnt win once he dealt with more than 15 of mine!
Overall the game was fun, though there are no rules for militia or levies, the two base profiles are "Warrior" and "Leader", with nothing to differentiate between a trained retainer and Ulfrick the peasant whom was called to fight for his lord. To hit roles are based on your weapon and your opponents armour level (Unarmoured, Partial, or Full). The lists are a good idea, and push you towards a more historical list, with less historical or rare options costing more. The game is a pretty obvious ripoff of the GW Middle Earth game.
Overall we enjoyed it, and are planning to play an Arthurian game next time, my early Saxons against his Arthurian Romano-British.
>>96042218Really good AAR anon, hope to see more.
>>96049552Thanks for the writeup. I'm umming and aahing over Pillage. Victrix has some level of brand recognition, so it's an easier sell to my more normie non-historicals mates, but I'm not sure if the system would grab me, even compared to another fairly light game like Ravenfeast (which I've already houseruled to have things like pillaging and semi-random movement to fit my personal taste.)
>>96049433You the guy with the Oarhmark play doh homemade green turd snake?
>>96049627Glad to help. One thing I will note is that there appears to be an error from an older manuscript under Huscarls - Huscarls gain the benefit of not suffering the too-hit penalty for using a Daneish Axe, HOWEVER, the Daneish Axe does not grant the user a too-hit penalty, only that they strike last on turns they have not charged in. Presumably it actually means that Huscarls ignore the Strikes Last rule for Daneish Axes. I would give the game a look over, it plays fairly fast and its pretty fun, though admittedly we did not branch into the specialist units (Healer's which are universal, then Berserkers and Huscarls, whom are Viking and Anglo-Saxon respectively).
I think there are some bits missing, like the aforementioned difference in troop quality, but overall it is a very fun game with some nice rules for doing stuff like climbing and swimming, and a phase for setting fire to things. Theres a free pdf floating about.
>>96049671Oh hey Billhooksfaggot, hows it going? Havnt seen you as much in /awg/ lately. Yes, I have two hand sculpted snakes, soon to be joined by a pair of Hydras and hopefully a Dragon.
>>96044359you sir, are identifiably retarded
Rubicon models are ON RECORD bigger than the same vehicle from warlord, but both are 1/56
warlord VEHICLES are just "Truescale" 1/56 while RUBICON are "Heroic" 1/56 warlords INFANTRY are HEROIC which is why their vehicles look small next to their OWN INFANTRY
Please learn basic reading comprehension, this hobby has quite alot of reading involved
>>96045858fyi most of their (if not all) shermans are just italeri kits which is why the tank commanders look all fucked up
>>96047210>>96047542>Wouldnt bring a mauswhoa there, be careful everyone we got the fun police over here
>>96049552>"the two base profiles are "Warrior" and "Leader", with nothing to differentiate between a trained retainer and Ulfrick the peasant whom was called to fight for his lord."Yeah i kinda noticed that when looking at the rules previews, was definitely one of the biggest detractors i could immediately see, but ultimately doesnt seem like it "ruins" the game since theres still enough variance with weapon types
Really happy with them including more rare historical stuff but making them rightly less common in the game
Hope the campaign rules are good!
>>96050494>Historical wargames can't feature things that don't/didn't exist >Fun policeIt's also worth noting the Panzer VIII is literally the least fun thing imaginable. If we are imagining things, can it not be a box that is very slow and is either litteraly invisible or dies instantly?
Is a war game featuring realistic dinosaurs, a historical war game?
>>96050597I'd call that a paleontological wargame.
>>96049552>GW middle earth rip off Based, that's one of GWs only fun rulesets and blatantly stealing from GW is kino
>>96049627>umm and ahh over pillage Same here. It sounds very interesting to me because as I get older I become more and more interested in scenario based games and less and less on balanced point based matches. However, whenever I get excited about a game like this, made by a single passionate amateur, I am always burned and the game is actually dogshit, Guards of Traitors Toll for example. That's why I've been holding off on Pillage. I was under the impression the game was supposed to be about amphibious viking raids, pillaging Saxon churches, stealing cattle, etc. But it seems like from anons two battle reports it's just another battle game?? Pillage also loses some credibility because the author (a frog, ugh) was caught using AI in the rulebook almost immediately after release. Now ripping off MESBG is fine, but ripping off another game AND using using ChatGPT in your rulebook makes me start to wonder about ones ethics and what else might be going on
>>96050597Dinosaurs historically did not engage in warfare
>>96050480Not him, but "heroic" and "true scale" are fake, made up terms. It means nothing. To be 1/56, a model HAS to be 1/56th the size of its real life full sized counterpart. If it is not 1/56th the size of the real version, it is NOT 1/56. If the two tanks are different size, that means either one or neither of them is truly 1/56th the size of the full size version. "HEROIC" is a meaningless term, it's a completely made up description by GW drones to excuse shitty and disproportional sculpting
>>96049794>nigga rolls a ball of green playdoh into a log and calls it "hand sculpted"Kek I recognized it was you because you still have the exact same unpainted models you had 9 months ago
>>96050706Been focusing on things other than celts, namely my lead 1e gw stuff. And saxons.
I ken your jelly of my sneks, no need to be so salty. You should give it a go, sculpting is unironically fun.
>>96050672>Dinosaurs historically did not engage in warfareProof?
>>96050706>>96050726Post the snake, now I'm curious
>>96050743Exactly, there is no proof either way, and history is the written record of the past. If it's not recorded than it's not history by definition
>>96049794I support you Oathmarkanon
I appreciate the charm of Logsnake
Perryfag remains malding
I have no interest in Pillage but may pick up 2 x Saxon and Norman bands to make a proper army
I wanted to do Vikings in Ireland but read so much about it I almost got over it lol
Welsh vs Saxons would be ideal but the Welsh options are so so
Doing Goths and Late Romans atm
>>96050779>>96050608>>96050672If you had documentation of two groups of ants fighting and you based a wargame around that would that by a historical wargame?
>>96050950Is everyone in every thread perryfag now?
>>96050950>Welsh Options are so-soVictrix is coming out with Dark Age Scots in a bit, my working theory is that I can kitbash them with Late Romans to get a decent Welsh force.
>>96050953History is the study of the human record, so no
>>96051179Where did you get that definition from? That's not what any leading dictionary says. That's also not how people use the term I.E. "the history of life" or the "history of Earth" are both relatively common phrases.
Bolt Action question: The new Armies of Great Britain book doesn't feature Gurkhas, but there's a Gurkha section in the British section of the core book. What would you guys say if I showed up with an army formed from the Armies Of book, but with a Gurkha section out of the core book?
>>96050480Jokes on you Anon. It's either heroic or true scale 28mm, but not 1/56. 28mm is not a scale. 1/56 is. It you claim that Rubicon 1/56 is bigger, then that means their models are not really 1/56 at all, but some weird in between scale.
>>96050622What is wrong about using chatgpt?
>>96052325Those guys from Dune had the right idea
>>96050760I can get them out and get better shots tonight, don't have time before work, sadly, so have this old photo. Took me 3 days to do both, most of which was drying time.
>>96049076Would be a brag if you had actual terrain there.
>>96052325Do you really want to play a wargame written by something that has no concept of 2D space?
I've tinkered with getting ChatGPT to create and even run wargames, but it eventually boils down to you telling it exactly what to do, and why the way it resolved things is stupid.
You can try out my prompt here if you're interested. It will likely need some prodding to show the map or correctly label things
https://pastebin.com/aLpzGiG4
>>96050597I'd play it if it was properly researched. Thrown dinosaurs into any historical setting and I'd be interested, although obviously combining humans and dino gets to alt-history
Is there actually any prehistoric tabletop wargame system?
I am talking about stone age tribes hunting big game or raiding villages and such.
Wasn't there an anon some time ago who posted his cavemen?
>>96053321>Do you really want to play a wargame written by something that has no concept of 2D space?Not him, but I do. Most humans are shit and I'd probably have more in common with an extradimensional entity anyway.
Of course warfare given such tech usually becomes a total clusterfuck of proportions unheard-of on this planet, but hey. I'll take it.
>>96052546Cute. Would sic tiny Bronze Age spearmen on.
>>96050950>oathmarkanonis that someone?
Ive been interested in oathmark for historicals due to its simpler but still rank and flank warhammer style mechanics, but also its kingdom building between battles mechanics.
Seems like it could be a good way to play petty nobility gaining land and resources. Aquiring a wooded area allowing you to feild more archers, farmland giving you heavy cav along with increase point limit, etc. urban areas. giving you money and spearmen, etc.
Question regarding DBA 3.0 with 28mm scale, can I do a "base" of 75mm by 50mm? I'm having a hard time understanding the basing chart but all mine are individually on 25mm squares.
>>95997522People hate Saga?
>>96049085>2mm>flock bigger than minis monkeys will never learn
>>96053978Oarhmark is not a rank and flank game
>>96055404>has ranks>can flanks
>>96055644You're so clueless
>>95997522>>96054533I dont like saga and I dont care how popular or obscure it may be.
>>96056342Same, I have never understood SAGAs "popularity" (if you can call it that)
>>96043328Awesome! Biplanes are perfect for wargaming.
>>95990615 (OP)Anyone here play Chain of Command? I have come from 40k but I absolutely love WWII settings and also 20mm figures look fantastic, does anyone have recommendations for starting CoC? I was thinking just one German Regular platoon and one British regular platoon?
More specifically what model makers are 10/10? I can work with any material, when it comes to vehicles also which company is decent?
What I will say is itโs such a breath of fresh air NOT being constantly hounded by updates and rule changes, Iโm at the stage in life where fuck it Iโll take my time collecting and really just enjoy the hobbying side and maybe even make some terrain. What put me off historical was the lack of players, but Iโve realised I can literally play myself kek, especially now Iโm a dad, I donโt have time for constant shitty 40K tournaments
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>>96057341Chain of Command is amazing, a very well done game. I'm so glad you chose CoC instead of BA. I pretty much only wargame in 28mm so I can't give any recommendations on 20mm troops, but I'm glad you are going with British vs German regulars instead of YET another US Airborne vs Waffen SS. If I could go back in time I would probably start in 20mm instead of 28mm, but now I have so many hours sunk into making and buying 28mm terrain across a dozen historical periods that I would be wasting years of my life if I swapped to 20mm. It's the sunk cost fallacy. Anyways, 20mm is appealing especially to me due to the sheer volume of cheap and accessable 1/72 aircraft and vehicles
>>96049259>>96049376>>96049433>>96049485>>96049552Thx for battrep, game looks solid, simple and fun plus rulebook got nice layout. I rly hope I can find some people to play at my LSG. This gonna be my excuse to buy Rus Infantry box for my warband.
>>96050622Op anon don't mention this but there is FIRE phase that is fairly important and after watching some other reviews(GMG) there are rules for actual raiding and taking stuff back. Also frogs are good at making rules Confrontation was amazing game and only faggs say otherwise. Any proofs in regards of using gtp or is that just redditors trowing shit at people they don't like?
>>96052526Muad'dib's blessing upon you.
>>96057442>Pillage is French made.Wait. Does that mean I now have the chance to read 1 (ONE) rulebook not creaming itself over Brits? Wild.
>>96055404>Oarmarkid play a kayak based frontiersmen rank and flank set in the french and indian war.
>>96057341A regular platoon of each is the best starting choice, then sprinkle in support options to taste. HMGs, basic tanks like Shermans of Pz4s, AT guns and emplacements, as well as additional infantry options, are always good picks. Excess infantry minis are easy enough to turn into snipers, additional senior leaders, etc.
>>96057919That will be the day! I was just reading Spectre Operations rulebook and UK Special Forces as the most elite tier in the book, meanwhile US Special Forces are the same tier as police SWAT teams lmfao
>>96058752That many 28mm shipping containers costs a small fortune
>>96058858If you've got a printer they just take patience and about 50 cents worth of material each.
>>96059148The ship is made of plywood so I'm not sure he has a printer
>>96057341AB miniatures would be my recommendation for late war
>>96040118I know anon, i'm still waiting for some of the paul hicks stuff he did for siege of malta to get released and that was possibly ten years ago he sculpted them.
>>96042808Also true, waited for years for winter brits, they finally come out and they let the new guy sculpt it so its all dogshit plastics and oversized resin bits.
>>96050672whatever bro i gave you an answer to why theyre different sizes, if you want to plug your ears because you dont like the terminology thats on you and i dont care
>>96061516>heroic scale vehiclesWhat on God's Green Earth are you talking about?
>>96056153Care to explain? You have been saying this for years.
>>96051125Welsh are round shields, no pants, spears and javelins.
>>96058752Considering all US gays do is take TRT and jerk themselves off about killing thirdies on "Operator" podcasts I'd believe it. Get a neck and we'll talk
In a bit of a painting funk, saw these guys on a magazine cover and thought what the hell.
However, as someone who's maybe at best a Napoleonics casual, I was wondering, what makes these guys French? Yes yes, I know the funny answers; blue plastic and it says 'French' on the sprue, but other than the Eagle there's nothing obvious to a novice like me. I have known Napoleonic gamers so I half-expect the answer to be obscure minutiae about cuffs or strap patterns, but I am genuinely curious.
On that note, anything obvious I need to avoid, or try to emphasise? Note that at the moment this is just a painting diversion; I am regrettably and horrendously nogames lately.
>>96061574In what world is frivolously killing 3 world brownoid not based? May I remind you that the British have never been militarily especially above their peers, only really finding success subjugating 3rd worlders themselves
Got these printed up. Going to do one broader but two story house, then some rubble sections, and I'll call that enough buildings and move onto roads. Planning to do a quaint little village turned battlefield.
>>96063647Very nice! Love how easy is it to print terrain. It just takes a lot of legwork to get it looking amazing, make sure you gets some proper cobblestone streets or a country road instead of just plopping these down on a grass mat with no roads
>>96061516>theyre different sizes,Yeah exactly one is RealSize/X and the other is Realsize/Y, where X=/=Y.
Those crazy brits lmao
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/in-london-theatergoers-reenact-storming-of-the-u-s-capitol/ar-AA1IoK3T
>>96065182Brits will wargame anything until it's time to put historically accurate swastikas in their game
>>96065251Yanks will prioritise injecting their slimy politics into every interaction while others focus on the craft.
>>96065373I'm not American, but it seems they live rent free in your head. Classic britoid seething
>>96066112>they live rent free in your head. Classic britoid seethingastonishing levels of projection
>>96064246That's the plan, already got some files for cobblestone roads I can churn out at will.
>>96066484>projection Of course you're referencing made up theories from a Kabbalistic Jewish pedophile
I printed some rubble too.
>>96067447>guy making up scenarios to seethe at the brits is one nudge away from full schizopostingmany such cases
>>96067968>making up scenarioSuch as?
>>96068284Just scroll up to see.
>>95980134>>95978494Sorry, it was a busy few weeks. The main thing I like about Crossfire is the thing everyone loves about Crossfire, so in hindsight I probably could have just linked you to a random blog and left it at that. Certainly a bit of searching online on your own initiative would yield the same comments.
Crossfire was published pretty much three decades ago and is still frequently described as "innovative" with an enduring cult following. It's a rulerless system, effective range for rifles is assumed to be the whole table, so it's up to the players to furnish the table with enough terrain. The terrain itself becomes the markers for movement, so the mechanics force quite a naturalistic bounding between cover. Attacking units will bound across fields but those fields become threatening obstacles once they near the enemy because the initiative will pass to the other player once any unit comes under fire. This system also has a similar effect to Chain of Command's jump off points, it speeds up the manoeuvring of opening turns in a more conventional system. Some players take a fairly rigid, gridded approach to terrain set up, but it works just as well, I'd argue more so, with naturalistic terrain setups.
My criticism of the system is a common one also, while it is clearly intended (and does a very good job) at being an infantry combat focussed system, vehicle rules are pretty much an afterthought.
>>96068353Also I'm back home, so I'll have a look on Wikipedia for a new OP once I'm back from what I expect to be a fairly short shift at work. At first glance it might be a lean couple of days around when this thread expires, but there's potentially some naval engagements that might work in War by Sail.
today I will learn how to play Panzerblitz
>>96057919Studio Tomahawk are French. There's a bunch of US writers.
Is that Combined Arms game/campaign system Warlord put out any good? I'm thinking of running a campaign with an operational / strategic layer on top of a tactical game and it would be a good basis.
Alternatively, any other recommendations for a game that I could use as the upper level to a WW2 tactical game?
>>96068346Oi mate do you 'av a loicense to seethe this much?
>>96063931I don't know if it's intentional or not, but those are the Neville family arms.
>>96057442>>96050622>>96049627Glad you guys liked the batrep, have a present
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10sTAqh0lQAXShfid8NYw9xemsUPhgQdw/view?usp=sharing
Technically its not breaking my word to my friend as he got this from another person whom had pirated it, its not one he purchased himself.
We only played the basic scenario which is a stand up fight, so we skipped the plundering and pillaging bit, sadly.
>>96068819Thanks anon, you keep delivering the good stuff!
hello
anyone having suggestions for paints for the more light-greenish japanese WW2 uniforms rather than the normal khaki?
Picture for reference
>>96069554Pretty sure Vallejo has paints just for this.
>>96063282https://youtu.be/_x2ovlPr2IE?feature=shared
I know you nerds don't like Bolt Action, but this is the best place I've got to think out loud.
I'm toying with making a campaign for my Bolt Action group. I want to do a strategic or operational scale campaign, and I don't want the campaign to overly shape the individual battles, because I've learned people hate losing individual battles due to the campaign system.
I'm considering making a setup where having a favorable advantage in the map lets you gain Advantages, and these Advantages let you manipulate stuff that could happen anyway, like choice of deployment type and zone, letting you pull an order die rather than drawing randomly once per turn, pick which scenario you play, etc. Essentially my thinking is these advantages let you stack the deck in your favor, but don't get you anything you couldn't theoretically luck into, so no extra units/bombardments/etc. I feel like this will be approachable for the casual/tournament type player who likes Bolt Action
Amy thoughts?
Is Caesar Miniatures dead?
>>96070405Waterloo was a German Victory, not an english one.
The cheats that they are!