Has any Table Top or Ffantasy series ever attempted to have pre-Tolkien and especially pre-pop fantasy Dwarves, Orcs, Ogres, Elves e.t.c, where the Orcs are the descendants of Cain and are strong, tall, pale people, Elves are nature spirits, Fairies are Angels who remained neutral in the war in Heaven and Ogres are just regular humans who eat other people and gain power from that.

Yes, D&D. D&D has all of those things you listed, just under slightly different names.

Tall pale strong folk from a cursed bloodline? Shadar-kai.
Elves that are more nature spirits? Eladrin.
Neutral Fairy (Biblical) Angels? ...Modrons.
Ogres? Ogres.

>>95994540 (OP)
That's an Ogre?

>>95994540 (OP)
>Grab any game
>say "this is how it works in this setting"
What specific mechanic that justifies an entire new system for this are you missing exactly OP?

You show your lack of actual knowledge of folklore and mythology by pretending elves and fairies are different
Fairies are just a newer term for elves that was adopted in the middle ages you retard

>>95994540 (OP)
My system is this, I am staunchly against including any tolkien in my work.

>>95994540 (OP)
>pre-pop fantasy
>the Orcs are the descendants of Cain and are strong, tall, pale people
I think you should try reading books.

>>95998350
But they are

I get that anthropology is kind of a fake science that's almost entirely based on theory and pseudoscience, but it wouldn't kill you to do a little research without /tg/ holding your hand.

>>95994540 (OP)
>Orcs are the descendants of Cain and are strong, tall, pale people
Orcs were entirely invented by Tolkien, where are you getting this from?

>>95998350
>>96003363
I assume he's conflating orcs with Grendel.

>>95994945
The only consistent thing about ogres until D&D was that they were big - either very large for a human, or inhumanly large (though usually still on human scale - 10 feet tall, not 50).

For them to be portrayed as just unusually big dudes wasn't uncommon. Remember that the people collating these tales might not have been familiar with "ogres" (or whatever), and just drew what came to mind and made sense in context. In this context, a rich, pretty big dude makes sense, even if he isn't inhumanly large (as shown by the servants).

>>96003363
>>96003488
"Orc" comes from "orcneas" in Beowulf, who were listed as evil beings punished by God. The etymology is unclear; a lot of people link it to Orcus, an Etruscan god of the underworld, but Tolkein himself tried to parse it directly from Old English roots (but also, that was his thing).

D&D unironically had more pulp DNA than Tolkien DNA
It's why it's kind of a mess