The crowd goes wild edition

>Build Divide
>Force of Will
>Final Fantasy TCG
>DBZ CCG
>Wixoss
>Keyforge
>Gundam
>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)
>Digimon
>Flesh and Blood
>Gate Ruler
>Battle Spirits
>Ashes
>One Piece
>The other DBZ game
>Sorcery
>Doomtown
>Warlord
>Magi Nation
>Lord of the Rings
>Neopets
>The Condemned CCG
>Grand Archive TCG
>Disney Lorcana
>Hubworld: Aidalon
>Earthborne Games
>Riftbound
etc.

Post about card games you've played and help other anons get to know your games!

Pastebin/Rules for some games
>Wixoss
https://pastebin.com/LC8SpttH
>FoW
https://pastebin.com/aGEBEKeF
>Dragonball GT SD
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj_0YeUXI5g4XyKwbAXJuZCGt3qWJwyp
>Gate Ruler
https://pastebin.com/nbcZP0nB
>Build Divide
https://pastebin.com/1cQT2pkz
>FaB
https://rentry.org/oypcs
>Ashes Reborn
https://pastebin.com/2jr0EG9S
>Netrunner
https://pastebin.com/g3yQAQ7w
>Fusion World
https://www.dbs-cardgame.com/fw/pdf/rules/fw_OfficialRule_Manual_en_v1.00_2.pdf
>Various Japanese CCGs without western translation (page is in moonrunes)
http://card.g1.xrea.com/tcg/catalog.html
>The Condemned CCG
https://pastebin.com/Liu2E7Rq

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>Previous Thread
>>95961674

>Thread Question
Are "return to *theme*" set designs your favorite in general or only when they're good? Would you prefer every set be unique if possible?

>>95995073 (OP)
Here's the announcement trailer for the new set, but I will save you the time by putting all four of the brand new heroes in one image. Read em and weep. We have a new "talent" and it looks entirely compartmentalized in this up coming set.

>>95995140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9R-1NloEjU

And Warlord spoiler season started (Well they can't delay it anymore because they will have draft events this year at GenCon)(Forget last year lmao )

This card was in the demo decks

>>95995260
It looks like she's falling.

Good tempo guy. It is not the best card ever but being able to play dudes on react and 1 rank lower is realy good.

There are other spoiled cards today but I m too lazy to go pick them. Maybe later.

>>95995140
I'm glad this set is a complete wiff for me, I spent so much money in high seas, I can sit this one out.

>>95995287
That is 100% how I feel. Honestly I wonder if anyone out there felt the opposite about High Seas and is now shouting out in joy like Macho Man Randy Savage? Could be.

>>95995250
Dude I keep forgetting this game is even a thing. They have dropped the ball so hard it bounced and knocked themselves out.

>>95995073 (OP)
>>95995140

This type of set design broadcasts "one and done" to me and I'm feeling kinda mixed about that. On the one hand, having zany one offs like this can be refreshing if every set is basically treated like a core set. I wish that's what they did with mystical heroes, made them more fun and self contained instead of being outright design crept to the heavens.

The Mastery Pack, Smash Palace and this all dropping means Guardians are blessed with the most support released at one time than any other class. Pretty cool time to be a stonewaller, I guess. Not something I'm personally jazzed about though.

>>95995287
>>95995322

Like these two were saying it means I can safely ignore this one and just buy the expansion slot cards. It will be interesting to see how many folks just sit this one out.

RIP bros who were predicting a new dwarf hero was next. LSS snubbed you.

>>95995580
>RIP bros who were predicting a new dwarf hero was next
Lyath is a dwarf

>>95995616

Oh shit really? I could hardly tell.

>>95995625
it's more noticable in other shots in the reveal trailer

Swung by the LGS and picked up some of the Neopets set 3 starters and booster boxes. They were unfortunately a bit unprepared for me, lol, so I only bought four boxes to make sure there was still more left for others.
Owner actually got in prize support, as well (promo packs, playmats), and asked if I'd be the tournament organizer and judge. Apparently there are 10-12 people in the shop's Discord wanting to play, so I'll have to hop in there later and meet everyone.
The shop also doesn't have any software to handle match pairings, so I guess I'll script something in Python to handle it if I can't find something online.
I'm not exactly looking forward to all the work I just volunteered for, but I'm still pretty excited.
Also excited to open these boxes when I get home tonight.

>>95995636

Oh when he said "you heard the dwarf" I thought they were referencing one of the announcers. Yeah I see it now.

So this is a brother of Victor's then? I originally though it could be papa.

>>95995645
>The shop also doesn't have any software to handle match pairings
Maybe you could use another tcg app to do that

>>95995666
Victor not escaping the manlet allegations

>>95995675
That would probably be the easiest solution. I assume that software is usually just a free download?
If not, I'll just hack something together.

>>95995694
>I assume that software is usually just a free download?
Maybe? Idk. Try looking for the most played tcgs software and apps first.

>we finally get 3 and 5 intellect heroes
>they're in a very isolated set
Fuckin' hell. I'm happy that they're finally exploring that design space that has been available since the get-go. Data Doll doesn't count, she's not CC legal.

So TUFFNUT gets to basically pitch the top of his deck and get an incidental advantage if it's an attack with 6 or more base. Kinda shit, considering there just aren't that many blue sixes (pictured as the one and only). I think the "toughness" token will basically be a boardside blocker and or damage prevention. It makes sense if it defended Nut's loins because he's going to want to use his whole hand on his turn instead of wasting it on preservation. So with that in mind, you get a token generation that allows you to stop damage on top of pitching the top of your deck to help mitigate small handsize. At the very lease, this design space is interesting. I look forward to seeing how he plays the most.

Then you have Goldmane, and oh boy... That ability is pretty wack, He has not one but two handicaps, and that's suppose to make up for being able to have a 6 card hand (including arsenal). He will frankly live and die by the card support from this set, but I'm wagering he'll come up a little short of being good.

>>95995140
Oh look, another set of talents that will never be reprinted.

James White is a faggot.

FUCKFAB

>>95995923
For once in going to say I agree, because pirates are likely to reappear but fucking good girl / bad boy? We already have that, it's called light and shadow.

They sent out Gundam demo decks to random people literally just pulled off tcgplayer's active customer list. People getting a deck delivered to their door for a card game they've never even heard of before.

>>95996198
It's a marketing strategy. We will see if it pays off.

>>95995384
>>95995250
An antique store near me sells a ton of old shit for this game, what made it so bad?

>>95996431
Let me be clear, the game isn't bad, I just think they really haven't done well with this relaunch. It seems like they were leaping before they were looking and now they're learning how hard it is to make card games.

>>95996440
I didn't even hear of a relaunch at all, they're dumb as hell if they think it'll do better this time with out competitive the TCG space has gotten since COVID

>>95996450
I feel like they rushed into this, for reasons I'm not exactly sure, but they possibly felt like the window was closing on them and they had to get the game out the door. That's just an unfounded hot take, pinch some salt with that nigga, but they really didn't handle things well since the kick-starter closed in my opinion. I hope it does come out and blows everyone away, because they're just simply not marketing this well enough and are going to rely on word of mouth alone.

>>95995645
>The shop also doesn't have any software to handle match pairings
Wouldn't challonge.com handle this just fine?

>>95996431
Look Ebay prices... If that store is selling for cheap you might want to buy them to flip on ebay...

>>95996450
The game lasted for 9 years and they just stopped doing it because they (AEG) were moving out of card games, also they sold the licence to produce it for a fan of the game* , and only kept one (L5R)(their first game) until they sold it to another company (FFG)(in 2014).

*(phoenix interactive, literally a backyard company in Germany who produced the game for 2 more years)

>>95996476
Agree with you. They had 1 extra year (delay) to hype it but they didn't. I guess they are hoping for "organic" publicity rather than trying to hype people. Or perhaps they just want to later give product to e-celebs to hype up for next sets, and if it is the case then at least it is a bit understandable as right now old product is really pricey.

TFK (The free Kingdoms) Brigand is the card designed by R. Midge AKA TFK(The fat kid) winner of the demo deck tournament that happened in GenCon 2023. (also he is depicted in the art)(he is not that fat now)

>>95996562
>pricrel
I'm going to fuck that

>>95995857
Tuffnut can unironically make Rok work consistently and there's probably even more stupid things he could go for.
I agree that Goldmane is the worst one so far. He now has a weird constraint of using looking for odd power/block value cards and attacks that buff themselves. He can't make using the staple attacks and defense reacts look good either.

>>95996539
Looks like it'd work fine. Thank you for the suggestion. But for $7/month I think I'd rather just script something myself.

>>95996689
I don't think you need to pay anything to use it unless there's a function you specifically need, in which case you do you bruh

>>95996714
Oh, I see, there's a free tier. I saw "pricing" and instinctively noped out of there. Thank you, anon. I believe this will work great.

>>95996562
tbf, I'm not going to buy their warlords shit to resell because no one is buying it.

>>95996849
No one will buy overpriced shit. $6+ a normal booter or $60+ a deck is a ripoff. But there are people paying $20+ for a booster (no joking)...
Being serious here: if that store have "battle boosters" from Epic Edition,Temple of Lore,Plane of Secrets or Light&Shadow for less than $10 then you really need to pick those and sell them for $20 each (actually cheaper than the ones at Ebay right now)(and prices that people actually bought those 2+years ago)
(for normal boosters less than $3 and selling for $5 is fair)(for decks less than $10 and selling for $30 ish is fair)

Yes people are buying when the price is "fair".

Ran a test tournament through challonge. Worked perfectly. You saved me quite a bit of work, anon.

>"the crowd boos" keyword

finally, fuckfab representation within the game

>>95996999
Good to hear, it's a pretty commonly used website for fighting game tournaments

>>95995073 (OP)
Is this really the next main expansion? It has the same vibe as that board game thing that they're releasing soon based on how weird the talents are. Also:
>Heavy Hitters 2.0
>no warrior
I don't think that this will be good, fellas.

>>95995666
Drawfism in a universe with canonical fantasy dwarves is a little wierd.

If I had a nickel for every WW2-inspired sci-fi IP tcg release this month where you deckbuild by smashing cards from two colors together, units have a space or ground tag, pilots are a special card type, psychics are a special card type, and you have dedicated base cards that act as your life points, I would have two nickels.

>>95995173
>>95995140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1KiwqDBlB4

New set looks like some gay parasitic mechanic type shit. Spamming new token types because FAB basically has no design space left. Also yet another Kayo reprint because the new heroes are too lackluster to attract interest on their own

>S-S-S-SUUUPERSLAAAAM
So now that they finally decided to commit to Merch- I mean Pirate for manipulating gold, we're going back to the arena for pro-wrestling memes. I don't even hate it.
RIP forever Olympia and Betsy.
LSS continue to make it clear that they are willing to turn any idea they have into a card type based on what vibes right now (as opposed to some long term plan for mechanical identity), and I'm at the point where I can accept that. Revered/Reviled I can take or leave, and Cheer/Boo is another do-nothing tag like Stealth but that too seems fine - they're getting some design out of it at least.

Tuffnut seems based on Rok, so I'll probably try him out. Pleiades seems to be implying she plays around with keeping certain auras in the arena for varying turn counts, and is also a mega QT. Goldmane I'm sure excites some people, and Kayo is... Kayo I guess. Sign me up for team goody-goody.
Personally I'm at a higher baseline interest than Highseas, but my overall excitement for FaB's design future has been trending down all 2025.

>>95997896
>TTS schizoposter trying to be an eceleb
Buy an ad.

>>95997896
>AI narration
>nazi concerns
You're not gonna make it in the FaB community.

>>95997930
Nah you niggers use adblockers anyway.

>>95997903
Pleiades looks like tranny's first ever DnD 5e character. Yeah she's cute but her concept is retarded. Also Pleiades are seven stars not one. And her concept is dumb gay and retarded.

>>95997802
I assume one has mechs in it, what's the second

>FaB is just doing hat sets now
lol
I guess it kind of has been since bright lights but this is definitely the lowest FUCKJAMESWHITE

>>95997896
Absolute kino make more thanks

>>95998322
One of them sounds exactly like Star Wars. I'm guessing the other is Gundam off of your post.

>>95998409
Except it's clearly not a hat set?
The heel/face dichotomy is an obvious extension of the show-fighting theme we saw in Heavy Hitters, and all the characters are either new or established as being strongly tied to the region.

You don't have to like any of it. I don't like how liberal LSS have become with new card types, for example. However, this is not anywhere near taking popular characters/settings and pasting magazine cutouts of Fedoras on them.

>>95997080
The first and only time I smirked at a FF post

Force of Will cards are becoming eye torture these days wouldnt you agree?

bald trannies are now making fab

>>95998848
>the tranny infiltrates and subverts as effortlessly as it breathes
I guess we have, what, 2 more years until this tranimal has enough internal power to start the propaganda machine up in earnest?
Sure, the writing and lore has always been bad but that doesn't mean it can't get worse. I prefer my slop low-propaganda, thanks.

Fuck this gay earth.

Oh great. deleted post. What did I miss?
Also, are FaB decks still $1000? Who the hell is going to pick this game up?
No, I will not play cope decks.

>Pleiades
>plee-a-deez
First futa character confirmed???

>>95999069
It's so insane FAB decks have been so high priced still

How do assassins differ from ninjas?

>>95999167
>in fab, presumably
Ninjas are more aggressive and tend to play lots of small attacks in the same turn.
Assassins are better at disruption, and tend to only attack once or twice each turn.
If you really insist on fuckposting about classes, you should be accusing Assassins of being "warrior but better".

Reviled Assassin clown hero fucking WHEN?
MAKE IT HAPPEN JAMES.

https://youtu.be/frZAL0YRDJ0?t=40

>>95999272
Say I only wanna play assassin. How hard would it be to keep up? I just buy generic and assassin cards and everything else I can ignore yes? Also, if my hero gets rotated out am I shit out of luck? GG just play another assassin? I know they reintroduce retrains but how long does that take to happen?
Most importantly, when are they going to make decks 5x cheaper?

>>95999382
>keeping up
Yes, that's right. Assassin cards, generics, and any other cards you get interested in. Nuu is a Mystic Assassin, for example. If you were a Nuu fan you'd end up owning some Mystic cards too.
It's easy to keep up with a single class.
>hero rotation
Retrains are not on a fixed schedule. No guarantees. GG play another Assassin or try a new hero.
>5x cheaper
Never. They are interested in making decks cheaper, sure. But it has been made clear again and again they do not target "cheap" only "cheaper". Dadcore game etc etc.
My personal hunch is that LSS feel deck prices in line with MtG Modern is acceptable. They are not out to give you the Pokemon experience.

>>95999454
i remember when you could make a budget Modern deck with 50 dollars worth of cardboard and that was considered too much because the average budget deck was ~30 dollars.
finance bullshit ruins games

>>95999454
Shame. Unless project blue really takes off, chances are I will never try this game. It will never be my main game and I'm not paying modern prices for a side game.
Everything else surrounding the game also seems hostile to 'casual' players.

>>95999533
FaB is my main game so I'm not as adverse to the cost, but it's definitely out of control right now. Super keen for Blue to take off. Blitz was always fake and gay.

>>95998511
>Except it's clearly not a hat set?

>>95999677
hoooly based
seething snoys have to comeback against this!

>>95999677
hoooly based
seething snoys have no comeback against this!

>>95998409
>>95999677
TRVTH
NVKE

>>95999382
If you want to play assassin, you got 4 options for CC right now. 2 of them are pretty shit, but they all share mostly the same card pool with minor differences.
Your best bet is to build Arakni Marionette or Arakni Slip through the Cracks who both share like 85% of the cardpool and then play them until both of them LL or they print new assassins. They are safe in the way that even if one of them LLs, you can just switch to the other one without much hassle

>>95999121
They should have just made her/it a BARD, is it so difficult to do so?
Are music mages that scary for them?

>>95999802
Their existing bard design is unfun and retarded. If bard is going to come back as a real class it's going to need much more attention than an odd-hero-out in a brute vs. guardian set.
It's good she's not a bard.

FUCKFAB GET

>trannies infiltrated
lol lmao
it is over for fabgots

>>96000207
>207
POVVERFVL NVMEROLOGICAL TRVTH
FABGOTS VVILL NEVER RECOVER

>>96000515
wtf its true

It's happening.... oh no

RIP
lmao

>3 piece band
>2 percussionists
This bitch FUCKS, god damn.

hello, hows the duel masters simulators going?

hello, how's the gundam gcg simulators going?

>>96001413
Imagine fucking her after she's had a long show and is tired as hell but after some caffeine and adrenaline she starts riding you like a horse being chased by a cheetah and then after you cum she gives you a playful slap on the face then never talks to you again.

>>96002772
PvP or PvAi

>>96001348
Didn't this start like a month ago? That was quick

>>96002829
Most sane FABGOT

These manga cards are just gorgeous

>>96001413
If this is a hero and isn't a bard then it is a waste.
>>96003561
>Those traditional art cards are good looking
Welcome to 2025 where most art is done in photoshop and look souless.

>if there's ANY musical theme her class MUST be BARD
>WA LAO FUCKFAB REEEE
Why are you niggers so autistic? Did 4th edition DnD do this to you?

>>96001413
Holy shit Flesh and Blood has electronic technology in its setting

>bards must be musicians
>musicians must be bards
Man, fuck d&d

>>96003561
Is the 'DRAGONBALL' logo a watermark on the photo or is it on the actual card?

>>96003734
nta so I don't know for sure
Look at the left card. The "DRAGONBALL" reflects differently to the rest of the wood goku is standing on.
It's on the actual card.

>>96003734
It's on the actual card. It's on every card in the set.

>>96003709
Got any examples of non-musical bards?

We're not dead yet, Fusion Worldbros
And by bros I mean me since I'm the only one here that plays it

>>96003764
>>96003820
Magic CHADS stay winning!
It's so over for FABGOTS! It's only a matter of time!

>>96001348
>blue is kill
Let me guess, because maybe the power of rare cards swings dramatically and there's clear winners and losers found in the format? They didn't design Flesh and Blood from the start with stuff like this in mind, so it probably was leading to some dead-ends.

Also guess what? Super Rares are back next set. I guess this is to help combat card availability of things like Hunter's Klaive and the like.

>>96003892
It's a fucking disaster, LSS doesn't know what the fuck they're doing

>>96003820
Lorcana getting GAPPED

>>96003785
Shakespeare, Alexander Pope, Myrddin Wyllt, etc. Historic bards were historians and writers by trade and if you insisted on making them into fighters there are a lot of reasonable styles that could be used. It's like how philosopher characters are usually depicted as mages but irl philosophers were most often wrestlers in Greece, trained in fencing in Europe, martial artists and swordsmen in Asia

>>96004174
I figured it was the poetry angle but couldn't think of how you could do it non-musically until you pointed out some examples, thanks.

>>96004174
You know that the fantasy bard and the bards in FnB are musicians?

>>96003764
>Lorcana at number 5
I can live with that. Hope they can keep it up!

>>96000859
>ordered 3 displays
I hope the game has legs, the demo decks were fun.

>>96003785
Aragorn (in the books) songs and tells and poetry, and he's a perfect example of a bard (charismatic, slightly magical, multitalented, well traveled), but he's not, like, lute-themed.

>>96004619
>songs and tells and poetry
sings songs and tells stories and poetry** holy shit am I having an aneurysm, genuinely forgot to type half the words in the sentence

>>95999802
I'm imagining a bunch of guardian cards for her where her simps jump in front of their favorite idol into certain death to save her.

>>96003764
>>96003820
oh nonononono lol lmao

Play Neopets! It's fun!

>>96004908
left is so lewd

what a weird collab

>>96005216
>black lagoon
down the memory lane

>>96004290
And fuck d&d for being one of the main reasons for that, just like the beginning of the reply chain stated

>>96004561
Rotation is going to be make or break. I think they could have done it better, but I do think it'll keep the more serious players engaged.

Last set has nearly zero value though, which is a bad sign. The most expensive non-enchanted card is like $15 and there are only 3 or 5 above $5.

>>96005287
>Last set has nearly zero value though, which is a bad sign
I don't know anything about lorcana, but if people are chasing enchanteds, isn't this good? Other than that, future sets may make last set cards better

>>96005287
I don't play the game so grain of salt for what I'm saying.
But the way they are doing rotation sounds retarded. An entire year's worth of cards are Thanos snapped when the next year starts? So some sets last way longer than others? Whats the rationale?

>>96005216
ZX is too big brained for me

>>96005356
It's how Magic did it, at arguably standard's peak. Which is probably the rationale. I think dropping 2 every 6mo or even 3 every 9 months would be better but hey, they didn't ask me.

>>96005301
Yes and no. Most sets have one or two "chase" legendaries that maintain higher value, 5-10 cards in the $5+ range, and then the rest of the value is in the enchanted. For playability it's good but since there's no card actually shifting the meta, all the value went into enchanteds. That said, there are like 6 $100+ enchanted this set.

I'm just going to say this once. After hitting High Seas out of the freaking park, both mechanically and thematically, resulting in a full bases loaded home run, it's OK for Legend Story Studios to take a break and do something a lot less serious that isn't juiced up to be globally popular. I know we like to doom and gloom a lot here, but this isn't an indication that they have lost their touch, more like they are intentionally blowing off some steam from their killer performance over the summer.

Thank you for your attention.

>>96005716
Listen, James, your parasitic design of Hat sets is killing the game and there is yet to be an on-ramp for new players. You're milking the ever-shrinking number of whales with each new tier 0 character that comes with each set, and there's a crash coming.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. God fuck FAB, God fuck JW, and God fuck New Zealand.

>>96005716
Yes they should stop releasing sets FOREVER and take an eternal break. Byebye FAB

>>96005918
based

>>96005216
>I really liked the anime and I was very disappointed when it abruptly ended
>see this, look up the manga's development
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Black_Lagoon_chapters
lmao
What a fucking mess!

>>96005716
Superslam is no less on the nose than Highseas. I don't understand how you guys were pogging the fuck out over TEMU pirates of the caribbean, but denounce this as unserious or cringe. Do I just not understand the millennial mindset?

The new heroes already look pretty compelling.

FUCKFAB

The cookies are coming, I hope you guys have pre-ordered your starter decks

>>96007858
Does it have waifus?

>>96006780
>Adventure island > WWF smack down
It's really that simple. No this isn't a bad set, yes it isn't as palatable as sailing around looking for gold. I'm not certain why people are pissed off either, but I can understand why off the backs of the greatest set they've ever made in the last two years we have disappointment for a revisit set that isn't even that long after Heavy Hitters. What people are really not keen on is the cucking of the savage lands set, which isn't what's being voiced but I suspect is an underlying rejection of this announcement.

For me, if they took us to savage lands and maybe made it dino-tastic, I'd be fucking pissed right now. Why? Well simply because I've already over-leveraged my disposable income to get my hands on as many gold packs as I possibly could. Of which I got no Ms and only Tinker Rings EA, so that felt great.

>>96007999
I feel like the problem people are having is largely related to Talent fatigue. It's LLS's answer to providing ample support to vanilla classes, because they get to sprinkle that shit in while the bulk of a set design goes towards a new isolated talent. This way they don't give one class too much of a leg up at a time. But oh wait, guardian mastery pack and the UPF product sucking off only guardians... I guess that might be the only way we see vanilla content going forward.

>>96006780
I want to fuck Davy Jones, I don't want to be fucked by Hulk Hogan.
I hope this clears things up for you

>>96008287
For me it's pudgy Marlynn that's full of fried fish sandwiches and crabcakes.

>>96008518
I'd man her harpoon, if you know what I mean

>>96007989
Depends on how you view cookie people.

>>96008713
Nice stealth penis

>>96008713
>Pokemonish gameplay
Gross

Are any of the FAB armory decks actually strong enough to not get manhandled at armory events? Like, I wouldn't expect to win events or anything, but I'd be pretty happy with some back and forth. I was looking to pick up either the Kayo or Jarl decks since the new set seems like it'll support their classes and they might be a bit cheaper to upgrade later on.

>>96005216
If any anons here have played Z/X, how is it? I've seen it for a decent bit and watched a small tutorial but all I've heard is that it's apparently even more combo-heavy and insane than Yugioh

>>96009905
Jarl has good shit, Dash is competent and gets some great cards that complete her, Gravy deck is good too and is loaded with value like Call to the grave.

Maxx isn't well received, Azalea deck is weirdly in the middle of the road between useful and pushover. Avoid Aurora unless you want to get laughs but no legal armory game out of it (unless you're doing Blitz, but who is?).

>>96010381
Dunno Bolt, dunno Kayo; neither have great deck lists I'm to be told.

>>96009905
if everyone at your armory is poor, then maybe? But the only people who play FaB are rich dads, so the real answer is no. If you show up with an armory deck you are going to get obliterated. Some new guy at my local brought the Azalea armory and his round 1 opponent was CYB Jarl. He went 0-1 drop and never returned lmao

he made the right call desu, the game is complete ass and I recommend you play literally anything else

>>96010631
im only gonna post to agree with this post

>>96009905
Armory decks for the most part aim to elevate the weaker decks of each set. Even if you make them optimal with some upgrades they'll still suffer from the fundamental issue of being B tier decks at best. The only exceptions being Gravy Bones and maybe Jarl in the future. You'd still need to buy some pretty expensive cards to make those strong though.
>but I'd be pretty happy with some back and forth
You'll get plenty of those even in matches where you lose. FaB is good at keeping the player in the match for a while and not obliterating him with an OTK early on.

>>96008535
Yeah bro, it's not gay if she's futa.
>>96010631
>0-1 drop and never return
I find that this is the normal reaction to FaB. Anyone who has half a brain sees that so-called "game" and realizes there's ZERO card economy or strategy. Instead, two players sit down to compare the size of their wallets and flip a coin in case of a tie.
To any anons unsure, I recommend staying FAR FAR away from that pyramid scheme in plain sight.

>>96011219
>"FaB is good at keeping the player in the match for a while and not obliterating him with an OTK early on"

being "in the match" because you have a real chance of winning and "in the match" because the average game length is 30+ minutes are not the same thing

there might be "back and forth" in the sense that your opponent occasionally plays a set-up turn but uhh...the inevitability of their superior deck should be pretty obvious after a few of these so-called "back and forths"

>>96011547
lol I'm not going to cope and say there's no strategy, it's more that the "strategy" part of the game feels so fucking stupid because there's no continuous board state or continuous hand. It doesn't feel like you have to manage resources carefully or wisely because you're incentivized to dump your hand every turn. It does actually kind of feel like you're flipping a coin with your opponent and hoping the 4 cards you draw can make a bigger number than the 4 cards they draw each turn. (And if you can only make a big number in the late game when you're low on life and bleeding cards every turn to survive, oopsie woopsie sorry you lost!) I really think FABgots just love fapping to the thematic aspect ie. "iTs LiKe A fiGhTiNg GaMe"

>>96005560
>It's how Magic did it, at arguably standard's peak.
I guess you're right. But when block rotation was happening it was 1 big 2 small right? So it stung less. Seems like for lorcana it's upwards of 4 sets. Are some of them mini sets?

>>96011762
>there might be "back and forth" in the sense that your opponent occasionally plays a set-up turn
That's true but that's just what the game is like. And if the newbie unleashes something wild too, even the superior deck will postpone a setup turn in order to smack that attempt down.
I personally had very few matches where I brought a cheap, shitty deck and my opponent had a minmaxed, expensive as fuck tier #1 deck and that match wasn't close. Most of the time both heroes finished with single digit HPs. I'd call that kinda close. Ultimately you're correct in your cynicism and jumping ahead of several conclusions, but the newbies don't know that necessarily undeerstand that right away and they have their fun in an unevenly priced deck matchup too. That psychological effect matters.
The actual bad thing about FaB and new players is in a lot of places the low playercount. Newbies armed with barely anything more than a starter deck shouldn't be allowed to compete with the tryhard pros, but that's a luxury that only the most popular games can afford.

>>96011762
>iTs LiKe A fiGhTiNg GaMe
Ignoring the usual shitposting spiel, I wonder if people would stick with FaB more if defense let you draw cards to replace the ones you spent, or if using a card specifically printed for defense lets you draw more and get card advantage, since that's what parrying in fighting games is like

>>96011762
>flipping a coin with your opponent and hoping the 4 cards you draw can make a bigger number than the 4 cards they draw
That is exactly as deep as that so-called "game" ever gets.
1)Flip for 1st turn
2)Flip for hand quality
3)First person to get a better hand pulls ahead and wins
No FABGOT has ever been able to refute this. All they can do is shill and spam!

>>96011900
>"but the newbies don't know that necessarily undeerstand that right away and they have their fun in an unevenly priced deck matchup too"
ehh I GUESS that's true but most FaB players are not first time card gamers, they typically only come from other card games and are usually rather experienced, so they're acutely aware of how badly they're losing the tempo battle against a stronger deck. When I'm in that position, I'd much rather just concede and go next (or ideally play a better game lul) than finish grinding out a 30+ minute match that I know is hopeless
>The actual bad thing about FaB and new players is in a lot of places the low playercount
the game has a low player count because it's bad, extremely clunky (ie. asking opponent if they have reactions on every single chain link), matches are long, and it's expensive to build even a single deck (you could build several meta decks in any other card game for the price of the average FaB deck)
>Newbies armed with barely anything more than a starter deck shouldn't be allowed to compete with the tryhard pros, but that's a luxury that only the most popular games can afford.
the guys at my local were extremely cool and willing to let me borrow their giga expensive meta decks to use for the Armory night, and I've heard most FaB armory scenes are like this. Unfortunately, even when I won I wasn't able to think anything other than "this game kinda sucks and I would rather be playing something else rn"

>>96012078
>even when I won I wasn't able to think anything other than "this game kinda sucks and I would rather be playing something else rn"
hooooooly BASED
FABGOTS in absolute SHAMBLES

FAB just gives off such creepy Star Citizen vibes, like there's this obvious rotten core to normal players. but we're not allowed to mention it around the devoted because they are $5k+ invested in the game already and can't handle anything but rapturous praise

>>96012078
I guess that I'm just an immovable object of patience and optimistic attitudes. The game certainly filters hard against people who aren't like that. Nitpickers and salty skulkers shan't have a good time with FaB.
I've been getting into OPTCG lately and I totally understand why it blew past FaB in popularity, even though I personally still prefer FaB.

>>96011837
Depended on the block but it was usually 1 big, 1 small, 1 core, and either another big or small (e.g. Tarkir was 2 big, Theros was 2 small). Ended up roughly the same proportion of cards, and went from 5-8 sets legal depending on when I rotation it was available.

I think a lot comes down to what's reprinted. A smartly curated list, both in Fabled and moving forward, would be pretty key - and arguably is/was part of the draw of standard in mtg, where you'd see favorites pop back up in a new environment.

Idk I'm mixed but hopeful it continues - it's my main game and I have no interest in Bandai or the big 3.

>>96012309
You are cute, anon. Cute!
<3

FAB is taking a beating and this time every argument is level headed, reasonable and i kind of feel the same way, they better make room for a casual audience or it's rip in pieces

>>96012437
>or it's rip in pieces
Why the ultimatum? They've sold every single booster they made for the game for the past 4 expansions.

>>96012624
>print 3 boosters
>sell them for the 5 players that play the game
WE SOLD EVERYTHING!!!!!! GAME ALIVE!!!

>>96012320
T-thanks, I think?

I want it to survive like 2 more years so I can play it with my currently 4.5-y/o

>>96011762
>>96011900
As an outsider, FaB seems like one of those games where the core gameplay is too tightly designed.
There seems like there isn't any room for alt wincons, goofy effects and what not.
No way of playing out any other fantasy than the one it had in mind when designed, fighting 1 on 1.
It leads to every game looking and feeling the same at a macro level.

So unless you are REALLY sold on the core gameplay, chances are you aren't picking the game up with the kind of environment and prices the game has.

>>96012309
>>96012835
I'm rooting for you lorcana bro. Think it will survive, the devs don't seem like complete idiots.

https://x.com/GUNDAM_GCG_ENG/status/1941112256776843751
Store locations posted, I think

>>96013113
yeah signups for starter and booster events have been up for a week on tcg+

>>96013113
My friend wants to play it, I'll give it a shot but I don't think I'll stick to a slop bandai game

>>96012873
>the core gameplay
what gameplay? rolling a higher number than the opponent?
lol
lmao even

Now that the last set was released
Force of Wills Trinity Cluster sucks other than the first set
They reused the evil witch plot point in the Reiya Cluster with Helen
Brought back Gill Lapiss and cucked Silvia with Ashwyrnn or whatever her name is
The setting is also very boring to the batshit insanity that was the Hero Cluster
Hero has visually more aesthetic superior rulers as well
Lucies feet though
I want Lyka to beat the shit out of me
So yh quite disappointed at FoWs latest cluster its crap compared to Hero Duel and Saga

>>96014384
explain why you think that's what it boils down to please. Don't just glibly tell me to watch some gameplay videos either, I'd like you to articulate it in your own words.

>>96014599
explain why you think that's what it doesn't boil down to please. Don't just glibly tell me to watch some gameplay videos either, I'd like you to articulate it in your own words.

>>96014630
>No argument, just being glib
I fucking warned you

>>96014642
>No argument, just being glib
I fucking warned you

>they made an Ultraman TCG
>its in English even
>literally can't fucking find any sign of its existence anywhere except eBay and some JP booster boxes on Amazon
I really fucking hate the Japanese.

I'm done interacting with you, feel free to copy and past this as your reply, or not. It's the last thing even vaugely resembling a (you) you're getting from me in this thread.

>>96014720
designed entirely for the singapore market, unironically

>>96014720
I too, bro. Too many cool card games that will never come to the West
>>96014732
NTA, but how is the scene there?

>>96014557
Ok, but did they print more kitties?

>>96015388
Lorcana has. Still no "everybody wants to be a cat" song tho.

>>96012078
>the game has a low player count because it's bad
DEVASTATING TRVTH NVKE

>>96015388
Yh but its a guy cursed into a kitty by a sexy magic bitch called Lyka because she went lol

>>96008518
2/10 obese fat mutt is the premiere cosplayer

fabgots lmao.

call me when hot eastern eurowhores are cosplaying fab characters

>>96015860
>tranny game
>tranny dev
>tranny casters
what did you expect? beautiful women?

>>96015876
would settle for reasonably attractive trannys

>the first Bandai sets are always the hardest to get
>always has the worst, laziest art
Fucking sucks :(

You can thank Majin for this push to wizard class. Shocked to see Gravy down as well as Jarl. The one offs are funny at least.

>>96015893
spoiler:
they don't exist

>>96016452
As long as Cindra exists playing gravy will be a risk, she's just so good into him

>>96016511
I find it hilarious all those Prisms got scared off, and the top row of decks has only a single threat to her phantasms.

>>96016144
It looks super lazy and I do not see Gundam doing well, it's just not as big an IP with the millenials and younger as One Piece or Digimon.

My store is still doing a learn to play and my friend REALLY wants some of the cards so I'll go with him and report back. I know starter decks are kind of ass so it wont be a full judge of the game but I will tell you guys how it is.

>>96016566
sadly (i've been jamming tf out of Mecha Break since launch) I feel the same
Bandai hasn't done enough to make this feel different or special. the card art and design is pretty bland.
there's just nothing spectacular about it besides its Gundam and while ppl know Gundam I don't think enough care deeply to create a big playerbase off jump it'll be lilbro to OP for sure and probably fighting to survive depending on LGS/region ala UA/Digi

>>96016573
Bandai makes slop card games honestly, their themeing is weak as shit.

One Piece being their worst offender

Digimon is Bandai's best game right now.

>>96016452
>>96016511
>>96016520
didn't we make this clear to you FABGOTS?
nobody cares about your coin-flipping competition
you're kind aren't welcome here
now BEGONE!

>>96017363
You're once again ruining the thread with idle threats. This behavior isn't welcomed here. Trolls and pols get lost.

>>96017286
I agree, I'm tempted to play it again, but I haven't played (casually) since set 3 or 4.

Is it worth it? I need something to do monday nights.

>>96017497
I guess it would depend on your local scene. If you want to play casually and everyone locally is a metafag, then its not worth it.

>>96017497
An app version is coming out soon apparently

I really hate how Bandai does their hits.
Like I already know the double star alt art was pulled from the case that my LGS is currently selling so I have no incentive to buy packs or open them as prizing instead of just taking the credit now.

>>96018548
Burn the store down. Then they'll have to order a new case! ^_^

>tfw 4chan pass expires so you login to coinbase to renew it and you see your balance

>>96016573
>it'll be lilbro to OP for sure and probably fighting to survive depending on LGS/region ala UA/Digi
We warned you that Bandai would cannibalize its playerbase by releasing this new game so close to other popular ones from their own company.

>>96017497
As the other anon said, if your locals play meta it won't be fun unless you are a competitive player.
We made a casual night in our locals, and it's fun. Of course there are best decks, but there isn't any degenerate bullshit

>>96019273
>>96017512
>>96017545
I should say I would play competitive if it isn't AIDS expensive, I just wouldnt be grinding it weekly and going to nats or whatever is the equivalent. I would just go to locals if I was bored on the night it runs

I don't think you can play card games casual casually unless its Commander and that game fucking SUCKS

>>96019297
Then, there are cheaper meta decks. Just avoid decks with SECs like RK

>>96000859
I missed out because I was short on money...
Hopefully my local store has a few left over, otherwise I guess I'll just pick up a starter deck and fuck around with it until people start selling singles then buy whatever I need.

>>96000859
I just want to collect singles of my favorite champions so I'm not too pressed at all

>>96019723
>>96000859
>>96004606
How do you get your hands on demo decks already?

>>96016664
Digimon is the least bad of the bunch on that side.

They really should make a game like FAB but with Dragonball, or even several of their anime properties. The mechanics fit Shonen far better than the current Bandai gameplay, and if you put OP and DBZ (and some others) into one good game, I'd bet you'd end up with greater sales than their current model.

It'd require them to create, manage, and support a game successfully long term, however, which seems unlikely.

>>96021568
Score was way ahead of you on that buddy

>>96021670
Yes, it was great and I have a pair of FanZ decks that live in my hobby bag, but nobody plays it near me and I've rarely gotten any takers to play a game.

Is this Don a DON!! I can put in my deck yet?

Is this Don a DON!! I can put in my deck yet?

>>96021568
Digimon is at least a fun game, I can't say that about the other Bandai Games.

Holy fuck I looked up the Gundam cards on the official website and they really are just really fucking bad to look at.

>>96014720
I have a local rep who comes to my LGS every Sunday and sells us starters and gives us promos. He said, you can just apply to be a rep and promote the game yourself.

>>96021890
MY EYES ARE GETTING WEARY
MY BACK IS GETTING TIGHT

Big props to that Mech getting into the top 8, but very unlucky to face azalea who just shuts them down so easily. Now we're setting up for the finals, and it's honestly going to be a damage race between these two. Azalea can't guarantee the lock unless the cards line up, and neither can Cindra; however Cindra can leak damage through guaranteed every turn, something the girl from the Pits is incapable of.

>>96016664
>"One Piece themeing is weak as shit"
you either don't play the game or haven't watched the show, which one is it anon?

>>96022515
I hate Cindra so much it's unreal

>>96022515
>None of the new heroes in the top 8
But I thought the new set heroes were all OP and broken to encourage sales

>>96022606
Yeah, same. I have a deck that can take her but every time I match up with Cindra I brick and it looks like I can't do anything.

>>96022612
There were only 4 gravies total and the other two heroes are complete sleepers. High Seas was the best set they've made in awhile for the reason that it isn't just pure busted shit that invalidates entire formats.

>>96022613
My two heroes I play are Ira and Gravy.
Ira isn't that bad and I get wins but with Gravy it's physically painful the whole match, literally feels like I can do nothing

>>96022577
They didn't even call you leader a captain, they called it a leader

Then you just play cards and your mana is don like, that's really where all the one piece themeing is.

>New Ira deck comes out
>Katsu gets better use out of the weapon and arms
>Ira still loves Kodachis

The new Ira build does look cool though and i'm definitely trying it out

>>96022625
She reminds me a lot of Zen in that she has no weaknesses and can high roll like a mother fucker if given even a single off-turn on your part. Obviously Zen was way way worse, but it feels like she's picking up the slack in his absence. Buying back daggers for free just for playing the way she was intended to be played is dumb, especially when I have to pay for every single fucking aim token I put on my arrows, one way or another.

>>96022633
so you haven't watched the show? Or don't play the game? It's sounding like both desu. I can give you several examples, from the latest set alone, where the theme of the cards/leaders ties into the gameplay and their card text
>bUt TheY DoN'T cALL iT a CaPtAiN
>"and your mana is don like"
I don't even know what this statement means desu

>>96023040
It seems like you guys are talking about different things, the other anon is talking about macro-level theming with system level mechanics, names of mechanics, etc. while you seem to be talking about micro-level theming with specific abilities and roles for characters.
That answers your first point of confusion, anon wants the name of the card type to fit the theme.
Second point is probably saying that OP TCGs mana mechanic is appropriately themed to One Piece with how it looks and functions but thinks the macro-level theming practically stops there.
You guys can both be right, both macro- and micro-level theming is very important to how a game feels. Though I would try to make an effort to better understand what other people are talking about before I say anything.

>>96012695
>sell 3 boosters
>make enough money to keep the business running and also maintain a pro circuit
>next 3 boosters sell out as well
Yes, that game would be alive.

Went to the LGS with my friend yesterday so he could get some of the new Neopets set. He buys 8 packs and pulls the fucking case hit. Absolutely wild.
Meanwhile, I bought this incredibly large d20. It's filled with liquid and glitter like a snow globe. Shiny makes happy.

This arrived in the mail.

Dice from Gamer's Nexus.

Pawsitively purrfect.

>>96022633
I agree that optcg is weakly themed but, in fairness, your leader *isn't* always a captain, and that's perfectly thematic to the show.

>>96021245
The decks got leaked (with images), so you just print them yourself (I print them on a normal A4 piece of paper and cute them out and insert them into sleaves with some other cards as a backbone).

>>96023242
FREE HIM

Grand Archive doing an official simulator in the future is a nice move.

>>96023239
Lol I remember seeing the cat playmat on here before.
Are you gonna collect more dice to put in there?

>>96023286
>Are you gonna collect more dice to put in there?
Oh, there's more than just that d20 in there. It's a full set of 1d4, 2d6, 1d8, 2d10, 1d20. They're all clear and have that kitty inside.

>>96023279
Done ^_^
It came with a tiny drug baggy of the little cats, as well as this card.

I hate MTG.
Which card game should I get into?

>>96023442
What specifically do you hate about it?

>>96023445
The fundamental design flaws of its screw and flood based mana system.
Finding synergies and deck building were fun, the actual game itself was unplayable.

>>96021833
??? Spoilers?? WTF

>>96023471
It's an edit.

>>96023445
I hate being unable to attack specific creatures, oh and all damage should be permanent.

>>96023453
>Keyforge
No mana screw or flood. Ever. You always get to play the game. There are no unplayable opening hands.
The downside is that the normal format does not allow deckbuilding (though an alternate format does).
>Digimon
I'm not sure about the current health of the game, but at its core the Memory system makes for a fun tug-of-war that avoids mana screw/flood.

>>96023442
>>96023512
Seethe more CHUD.
Hasbro's hit game Magic: The Gathering is supreme! SUPREME!!!

>Force of Will
It's Vintage-level MtG on fucking steroids and your lands are in a separate deck so you can literally play one every turn without worrying about drawing them. If you've played MtG you can learn FoW in a few minutes.

>>96023453
So play Ashes

Also in FoW, straight up dual lands get reprinted constantly and only cost a dollar or two, so color screw isn't really an issue, either.

>>96023538
Also cute anime girls like Zero

>>96023548
Aye, that, too!

FoW cards also look more visually appealing than Magic cards

>>96023442
SWU

>>96023442
>>96023453
yeah, this anon gets it >>96023540
Ashes is gonna be the one that checks your boxes

>>96022633
You could replace it with pretty much any shounen.

>>96023442
Wixoss!

>>96023700
Wixoss is Japanese game for Japanese people. Griorious Takala Tomei will end mistake of EN before the vile a*glo can experience ARTS.
Pray ASSIST LRIG and be silent, as you deserve!

Azalea took it lastnight but I couldn't stay up late enough to watch it live. Tldr:

>person placed higher so they went first with Azalea
>out the gates dominated an arrow off Knock the Death whistle
>They exchange life points very heated on both sides
>the ranger stalls mid game, gets put on the back foot
>then she gets back in the game and starts shredding face again
> wins by small margin off a tripple laced arrow with a perfect hand lining up

It could've really gone either way, the ranger player lost more than half their lifetotal quickly and it seemed like they were cooked. In the end placing higher was the game changer. I hate damage races against ninja, they make it look so effortless while Rangers have to draw ridiculously lucky to pull that off.

Azalea is closer to LL but she's still in the game for at least another pro season.

>>96023829
>1 spectator
wow what a thriving scene

>>96023838
The room erupted with cheering more so than the western nationals, rivaled only by Brazil, when it was over. Both sides had friends standing out of frame there that came up to congratulate or console as the case may be. But yes, FAB only sells threes of packs and only one living spectator at the highest level of play; so say you what reality is to yourself.

>wins your prerelease

>>96023912
Where's the goofy helicopter mechanic? It's just a buff with a condition.

>>96023829
>Azalea won, fuck cindra
>This means cinda won't LL as quickly as she would otherwise

>>96023947
I agree, it's not the outcome I wanted at all, but Cindy has a .5 XP modifier so it would've been a drop in the bucket.

>>96023960
the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

I agree, you're absolutely correct though

Here's Spain's top 8 and semifinals matchups. Currently OG Dash is getting her butt kicked by the boney bloody bitch bastard and won't LL either; you hate to see it.

>>96023975
>Oscillio might make it to a finals match
What a time to be alive

>>96023749
EU GP is sending a tranny to Japan, wixsisters we fuckin won!

>>96023921

>>96023512
You might actually enjoy Lorcana.

>>96023905
It says one spectator on the screenshot, anon.

>>96023975
That's kinda a nutty lineup right there. Two mechs, two iron maidens at the top; Spain is alright.

>>96024119
Oh that. That's because I watched the live stream from my phone, went to bed, woke up and fast forward to the end after it was long over without closing the app. There's like <500 spectators from what I recall.

>>96023512
>>96024089
This. Lorcana has a lot of mechanics that feel very similar to MtG, but all damage is permanent in the form of damage counters (though certain effects can heal them or redistribute the damage), and you can direct your attacks (challenges) to any ready (tapped) character, but certain cards can even bypass that restriction.

>>96024407
> to any ready (tapped)
Sorry, that should have been
>to any exerted (tapped)

sick and tired of low-theme games

>>96024707
I'm sick and tired of a lot of things, I keep it quietly to myself though

>>96023975
>Dash won
Well that's her LLing then

>>96023512
>>96024407
>>96024089
I can also add to this, I fucking hate disney but I've been enjoying Lorcana a lot because the card design and deck variety is really, really good.

>>96023453
>>96023700
+1 for Wixoss
Wixoss has one of the most cleverly designed resource system I have come across.
No screw or flood. But it also isn't completely linear like SVE or FaB. Managing your resource is important in a way most games are not, decisions made regarding ener in turn one can affect your options late game. You can also meaningfully interact with your opponent's resource.
It's better than even Digimon's memory system.

>>96024842
>It's better than even Digimon's memory system.
I need wixoss in my country now!

I am not a pedo
Will not be touching Wixoss

>>96025040
yeah kinda sucks, the content is too waifu/fanservice centric to ignore for me in unless its really lewd and hot and instead its kinda meh and high% loli

>>96024834
I can piggyback on this, too. I don't hate Disney, and I do have some nostalgia for the movies/shows I watched as a child, but I had no faith in their ability to turn it into a card game. I checked it out, thinking it would be another licensed shitshow I could mock later, but it turned out that I really enjoyed that game instead, Disney or not.

I guess I'm the only one here who prefers more complex tcgs where you can do interactions on the opponent's turn and shit

Lorcana doesn't hit that spot

>>96025096
Oh Christ, not this again. You've made your position on the game more than clear. Do we really need to revisit this argument?

How much does a lorcana meta deck cost?

>>96025131
I wouldn't bother trying to make a meta deck at this point. Set rotation hits in a month and a half, so any meta that exists now will almost certainly be upended. You might want to stick to casual decks from the 5th to 8th sets until Fabled comes out at the end of August.

>>96025150
True. But I'm not thinking about starting to play the game right now. I just want to know how expensive it is

>>96025160
Fair enough. I've never added up the numbers myself, but I've heard another anon say $200. Of course, that all depends on which of the meta decks you choose to play. I choose to avoid meta decks, so I couldn't say much further than that.

>>96025076
>high% loli
Genuine question. Do you consider any of the wixoss cards posted in this thread lolis?
If so, are you a boomer or on the older side?
I ask this because I find it hard to believe most youngsters these days would find the kind of art in wixoss to be objectionable, what with anime being completely mainstream by this point.

I'm convinced to give Digimon a shot.
But only on one condition:
This guy needs to be fun, meta relevant and in an A+ tier deck.

Otherwise I'm going to One Piece waifus.

>>96025332
Those are three conditions, anon

>>96025263
If I took Wixoss to a MTG or Yugioh centric store, I would get people staring at me, thinking I'm some fucking loser.

>>96025366
Is that a yes or a no?
>Yugioh centric store
Really? The Yugioh and Vanguard crowd in my area aren't any less weeb-like than say the Weiss players. It might not be their thing but it's not unusual to them.

>>96025351
no

>>96025418
Vanguard crowds would but Yu-gi-oh has toxic fuckers who would shit down anything not Yu-gi-oh

If I went to a MTG or Yugioh centric store, I would stare at them, thinking they're fucking losers.

>>96025242
>$200
Reasonable price for its IP. I hope it gets cheaper with rotation
>I choose to avoid meta decks
Why? Is your local casual, or can non-meta decks be competitive?

>>96025461
With the state of MTG being what it is, it's kinda hard not to see anyone still clinging on to that game that way desu.

>>96025489
yes same with ygo

>>96025461
>>96025489
MTG is just commander and crossovers, it has no brand identity anymore because that's what they wanted.

The only issue is there's no coming back from it, and if it goes long enough you'll never be able to reprint most of this because of licensing issues.

Also commander is fucking awful I have 0 idea how anyone can stand doing nothing for 2 hours

>>96025263
lets just say i didn't have to look much
respect to the anons in prev threads who i asked and said, yeah there's a load of loli art

>>95995073 (OP)
The worst thing about Star Wars Unlimited is the sheer power gap between the playable cards and the chaff. Its a game with 5 total sets and theres already a huge amount of cards that are unplayable vanillas, bad events, overcosted draft chaff. To be clear every game has these cards, Unlimited just has more than the average game. I wanted to build a casual droid army deck using exploit but man the card pool for the droids is so small and the majority of the units are so bad that it doesnt even work as a casual deck unless youre making two army decks that are tuned to be balanced againsy each other

>>96023442
That depends on what you hate about it and what you're looking for in another game.

>>96025475
My local has maybe 3 try-hards who play the meta and win most of the tournaments, but they can be so boring to play against, since it's always the same few decks when playing against them. On the other hand, the larger majority of the locals are casuals and beginners, and our league play supports and rewards tutoring , and gives bonus points for alternative deckbuilding. The try-hards like me, because I'm always throwing them curveballs and playing unexpected decks, so they can test their decks against non-meta decks. Of course, my decks don't always work out as planned, but I have fun testing them, and to me, that's more important than winning tournaments. To me, playing the meta is like reading the walkthrough without playing the game first. Just my opinion, I know others will disagree.

>>96025263
>I find it hard to believe
Anon...

Who likes Spider Pussy?

>>96026347
Would!

>>96025332
I take it that none of his cards are worth a damn then...

>>96025891
>the larger majority of the locals are casuals and beginners
Don't they feel bad getting stomped by the tryhards every week?
>our league play supports and rewards tutoring , and gives bonus points for alternative deckbuilding
How so?

>>96025332
>>96026701
I don't know anon, I don't play Digimon.
Your demands are unreasonable, but you might also be in luck.
https://digimoncard.io/deck/rapidmon-armors-114865

>>96026706
League play at my location had a few basic rules... we'd play every Tuesday night, and play was broken up into seasons that correlated to each set that came out. League night would cost $10 to play, but you would also get a free booster from whichever sets they had available. The first time you paid for league night each season, you'd score 1 point, and you could earn up to 10 points on any night of League play. When you played matches against other players, you'd play best of 3 matches, and the winner would gain 2 points, while the loser would only get one. There was also a rule that, if you were to tutor a new player on how to play the game, you'd earn 2 points. ...1/2

>>96027249
Finally, each season, there would be a number of points you could earn for performing various thematic feats that related to the current set (I liked to refer to these as 'achievements'), for example, when they added Encanto in one set, there was an achievement to have 5 members of the Family Madrigal in play at once, or during Ursula's Return, you could get 2 Ursulas at the Ursula's Lair location, then play Ursula's Plan, to score a point, for example. You could score each achievement once per League night, and you could usually gain 6 or 7 points that way, different with each set/season. So, if you built a themed deck or two, just geared toward meeting the achievements, you could easily rake in points on games you weren't even winning. I could play against one of the try-hards and score 3 or 4 points in a 3 round match, while they'd beat me and only score 2. Then, I could play against someone's poor sweet grandma who was a good sport, but barely knew what her cards did, stomp her gently, but give her helpful tips along the way, then suggest that she borrow one of my theme decks, then we'd play 2 more fun matches, where I'd let her win the second game, but coach her on how to get the achievement points, and she might get 3 or 4 points, while I'd probably get 4 or 5 with a different themed deck, and we'd both have a good time, and be much higher on the scoreboard for the night. Meanwhile, the try-hards played more rounds against each other than anyone else, honing their meta decks for the next tournaments against each other. They'd have their fun playing more serious matches, and occasionally playing rounds against the more casual players, and the casual players continued to be casual. It all worked pretty well. .../3

>>96027255
Oh yeah, and before I forget, the points we earned each league night would add up at the end of the season, and they'd have a prize pool of promotional material that would be awarded to players with the highest points. Almost everyone could expect to get a promo card or two, but the higher scores would get you boosters, pins, deck boxes, lore counters, card sleeves, or even card mats. However, I've been away from league play for a while due to an injury, and I've been told that it isn't as good any more. I hope that's not true, as I thought it was an excellent way to encourage participation and mentoring.

Sorry for the wall of text.

>>96025709
I feel this.

For what it's worth, the developers feel it too. I'm not expecting a total 180 but set 5 feels dramatically less full-of-garbage than sets 2-4.

>>96027263
Thanks for explaining all this, anon. It sounds like a fun local. I'm amazed the owners are okay with such a complex system. It must be hard to track it all.
>coach her on how to get the achievement points, and she might get 3 or 4 points, while I'd probably get 4 or 5 with a different themed deck, and we'd both have a good time, and be much higher on the scoreboard for the night
Eh? Could you change decks in the middle of the tournament and play with the same person again?
I have never seen rules like that. Did it have a limit of how many matches a person could play per night?

>>96025591

>>96025591
>>96025987
I don't think you guys understood the questions I asked and why. But that's fine I guess.

You guys are way too porn desensitized.

>>96025332
>>96026701
Two of the three main Digimon from Tamers have good decks. Sakuyamon is meta. Megidramon is meta and the Guilmon engine is also good for other decks.

>>96026347
I like games that put in some level of effort to draw in players and stores. Warlord ain't it.

>>96027403
>It must be hard to track it all.
Well, usually they'd have at least one employee dedicated to running the tournament while one or two more work at the register, but after 8pm, they'd lock the front door and let us keep playing until up to 10pm. They had a big whiteboard set up with our names on it and slots for stickers every time we gained a point, so they could keep track of our score over the season. If a match ended, they'd call the results out to the attendant (it's a pretty small venue), or if someone scored one of the bonus points, and they'd pop a few more stickers on to the board.
>Eh? Could you change decks in the middle of the tournament and play with the same person again?
As long as your opponent didn't have a problem with it, sure. It should be said that this was not tournament play. League play focused more on fun, practice, and participation. The point system was more there to give it some structure, and frankly, to get people to spend more money (can't build those theme decks without buying a bunch of the newest set, after all).
>Did it have a limit of how many matches a person could play per night?
No limit, which was good, because there could sometimes be really slow nights, where maybe only 4 people show up and it was hard to avoid fighting the same person twice. No, the real limit was time, since a 3 game match can take up time quickly, and if you didn't get your 10 points before the end of the night, you'd fall behind. I was gaming the system with all of my theme decks, though. It got to the point where the owner was calling me 'The Bonus Point King'.
Oh, that reminds me, I left out one of the bonus point qualifiers: You'd also get a bonus point if you showed up to the store wearing something with a Disney character on it, like a shirt or hat, or even one of the Lorcana pins that you could win through League play. Probably one of the best examples of this was one teen who got pic related printed out on a t-shirt.

>>96027487
>>96027570

>>96027570
I don't know WHAT you're talking about. Minnie Mouse still makes me cum every time I play her.

>>96025332
Why not go for digimon waifus instead?

>>96028057
>They had a big whiteboard
That really sounds like a lot of work. This wouldn't be possible to do in any lgs near me
>It should be said that this was not tournament play
Does Ravensburger allow this? I thought you had to report the tournament and give the prizes from the play kit every week
>No limit, which was good, because there could sometimes be really slow nights
If I understood correctly, everyone could get 10 points every night
>the real limit was time
That is, if the person played as fast as possible or against a friend.
So the people with the higher points would be the ones that attended the most

This system sounds cool if you have a casual player base and chill people, but sadly I don't think it would work where I live

>>96028291
>Does Ravensburger allow this?
The guidelines for this setup actually came from Ravensburger. They were the ones who would send out the 'achievements' and everything. In fact, Ravensburger was apparently very particular about which stores could be official League stores, and there was a very involved selection process, according to what the store owner told me.
>If I understood correctly, everyone could get 10 points every night
Yes, but again, this was only every Tuesday night in a 3 month period, minus a few weeks near the release date, so you could get a max, of say, 100 points? And that was if you had perfect attendance and max points each time, which no one ever did, to my knowledge.

>>96028421
>near the release date
Sorry, meant to say 'near the release date of the newest set'.

>>96028421
>The guidelines for this setup actually came from Ravensburger
WTF?! Can you link me the rules/guide for that?
I have never seen a tcg company do anything like this
>which no one ever did, to my knowledge
How would play kit distribution work? Could the top ones choose what they wanted? Or did everyone receive a promo each week?

>>96028467
>Can you link me the rules/guide for that?
Uh... I don't know? I'm not sure if they're publicly released? I can try taking a look.
>How would play kit distribution work?
Prizes were distributed after the scores were tallied at the end of the season, or next time you showed up at the store. Your score determined your prize, but almost everyone would get at least one promo card. If a bunch of people earned the same prize, like 3 people earned a pin, then the person with the highest score got to choose his first, and so on. If the person who earned the prize didn't show up within a reasonable amount of time, he might lose the right to choose first, just so the others who did show up wouldn't have to wait forever for their prize. So far, I've gotten 4 different pins, a collectible deck box, a lore counter, and a buttload of promo cards.

>>96028467
>>96028544
>rules/guides
I found one! This one was for the set Into the Inklands:

https://cdn.ravensburger.com/lorcana/op-kit3-instruction-en

>>96028544
>I can try taking a look
Thanks, anon.
>Prizes were distributed after the scores were tallied at the end of the season
So you would spend the whole season without the promos. It must suck if you want to use any of them in your deck. Dunno what casuals think tho
>So far, I've gotten 4 different pins, a collectible deck box, a lore counter
Cool! Was the deck box the prize for the top 1?
>>96028568
Thanks, anon! I hope they didn't change that

>https://www.disneylorcana.com/en-US/resources
Yes they have changed to something without book keeping that gives rewards out more regularly

>>96028613
Seriously?! Now just the top 8 get prizes because there isn't a point system anymore. Or if the prizes are given at random, you can't get a booster for participating because it goes to the prize pool.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

>>96028584
>Cool! Was the deck box the prize for the top 1?
I believe it was. I think I only missed one night that season.
>Thanks, anon! I hope they didn't change that
It sounds like they have. It still sounds pretty decent, but not quite as good as it used to be. It's too bad, while I was injured, it sounds like things have gone downhill a bit. I hope I can get out of my cast and fix up my car so I can start attending League nights again.

>>96028657
Thanks for all the explanations, anon. I hope you get well soon!

>>96028648
Well, these are just guidelines... I think if a store really wanted to keep some of the old guidelines, they could probably do so. It would just be a matter of making up a few achievements based on the latest set. I don't think Ravensburger would really fault them for that.

I do wonder why they changed it, though. Too much work to maintain?

>>96028672
Much appreciated! I'm itching to get back to it. Playing the occasional home game and hearing the odd comment on /acg/ isn't cutting it.

>>96028674
>It would just be a matter of making up a few achievements based on the latest set
For that, an LGS needs an employee or store owner really involved in the game. He would need to look at all the set cards, the set theme, and find possible themes that are viable to build a coherent deck around.
>I do wonder why they changed it, though.
I don't know either. If Ravensburger was already doing that, why did they stop? For them, it's easier to think about the achievements. They are the game designers. They could provide both methods of prize distribution.
>Too much work to maintain?
I don't think so. The achievements aside, most of it is just copy and paste.

>>96028724
>an LGS needs an employee or store owner really involved in the game
We have one of those at our LGS, but I don't know if she'd be capable of coming up with interesting achievements. Hell, I'd be happy to give suggestions or even do it for her if they'd let me. But, until I can get mobile again, that's all a moot point.

>>96028766
>We have one of those at our LGS, but I don't know if she'd be capable of coming up with interesting achievements
Yep. It's something that isn't simple. Do you think Ravensburger is trying to get the competitive crowd instead of the casuals or trying to expand the game's competitive scene?

>>96028822
It's entirely possible, but I think that would be a poor move on their part. I think they'd make more money pandering to the casuals. But, maybe they've found that they don't need to, and that casual numbers stay high regardless? Hard to say. I can only speculate.

>>96028881
>I can only speculate.
I thought you had contact with Lorcana communities outside of /acg/

>>96028906
Only my LGS, usually, and I've been away for several months. The only reason I know as much as I do, is because I'm chatty with the owner.

>>96029031
I guess we will have to wait for another anon who knows more about the scene then

>>96029054
Yeah, sorry I don't have any concrete answers for you. Might be worth bringing up again in the next thread, as posts while in autosage likely don't get as many eyes on them.

>>96029095
>sorry
No need to be sorry, anon. You aren't obligated to know how the game scene is worldwide and Ravensburger's marketing strategy. Also, you already explained many things about the game to me.

>>96029114
All good.
While we've been chatting, I was working on updating my Racer deck with some of the set 8 cards. Looks like they're adding in a recycling element that encourages letting racers get banished and brought back from the discard, so I'm labeling this one "Vehicular Candykaze". Mixing this element with my older deck, which focused on scoring lore by sending characters to the Sugar Race finish line. That tactic still exists, but now takes a 'back seat' to using racers to take down my opponent's characters by pumping up my racer's power with Ralph and Candy Drift, and doubling up on the carnage through King Candy's ability. One Calhoun can help to toss racers into the discard, while the other Calhoun, Pride Lands and Ralph - Big Lug fishes them out. Tuk Tuk, Start Line, and Voyage will all help my racers trigger the Finish Line, while Gloyd, Taffyta, and Vanellope all help me gather some extra Lore. Can't wait to give this one a test run.

>>96029191
racist deck? based!
At least to me, it makes no sense for a race-themed deck to be about fighting and bringing cards from the discard pile. Moving from location to location sounds more in theme. Maybe they thought it was too gimmicky to be a viable strategy.
On another note, Cars? Hello? Where are they? Why can't they print pixar cards?

>>96029249
>Why can't they print pixar cards?
They've actually announced Pixar properties are coming to the game next year. They haven't said which yet, obviously Toy Story, but I wouldn't be surprised if Cars ends up in there, especially if they want some new racers to add to Ruby/Amber. But, the whole fighting/banishing angle comes from the idea of reckless driving, and Calhoun returning racers from the discard comes from the idea that she and Felix adopted the Sugar Rush kids in the (unfortunate) Wreck-It Ralph sequel, and Ralph's Big Lug card returns racers because he's driving a tow truck (see the pun there?).

>>96029284
>Pixar properties are coming to the game next year
Good. They are the most famous ones, right?
>reckless driving
Okay, getting payoffs from combat makes sense. Gives me some Burnout vibes
>adopted the Sugar Rush kids in the (unfortunate) Wreck-It Ralph sequel
I don't know anything about (newer) Disney IPs almost coming to dislike them, so it doesn't make any sense to me. Even with you explaining the whole thing, it sounds like a stretch.
>tow truck
This I can accept

>>96029095
>>96029114
my LGS lorcana scene just hands shit out like crazy, I started like 2 months ago and I have like 50 promos and like 10 pins

>>96029339
How does it (entry fee, prizing, play kit distribution) work?

>>96029355
I pay 5 bucks, we play, and the lady just hands out a bunch of shit because she gets way too much for our local scene

>>96029358
>I pay 5 bucks
Does it convert into boosters for the top or for you?
>she gets way too much for our local scene
I thought a LGS could only get one kit

>>96029316
>sounds like a stretch
It can be, sometimes. They don't really explain the reasoning behind a lot of the game mechanics. Some are obvious and make sense, like Peter Pan cards having a negative effect on Pirates, but others either don't make sense or require you to do mental gymnastics to explain, like why does the Evil Queen from Snow White cause an enemy's power to go down while an ally's goes up? It doesn't seem to relate to magic mirrors or poisoned apples at all. Sometimes it's just not worth worrying about.

>>96029339
>>96029358
Shit, sounds like you hit the jackpot for Lorcana League. It took me like 3 seasons just to earn 4 pins. Kinda jealous!

>>96029375
When I was giving the game a look earlier, I felt the same. The system is good, but it felt generic. I guess it's to be expected since Disney is made from many different universes. However, I really liked the sing mechanics. For example, human Ariel can't sing, but the mermaid one has sing 5

>>96029389
And yet, the Magic Brooms can all sing, despite not having mouths. Not every game mechanic can fit every situation in a way that makes sense to canon, which can sometimes lead to some odd situations. Genie can kill, Pinnochio is not considered to be an item, and there are in fact people who can take a punch like Gaston. But, after playing the game for a while, you learn to forgive these things.

>>96029375
>like why does the Evil Queen from Snow White cause an enemy's power to go down while an ally's goes up?
Intimidation?

Going to my first OP local tomorrow. Playing a Reiju deck since it was cheap to build so I'm not expecting to win a single game.
Looking forward to it.

>>96029480
That seems to be the easiest guess. The only point I'm trying to make is that the reasoning behind the game mechanic can be vague at best sometimes. You can speculate, if it matters to you, but I try not to let it keep me up at night.

>>96029372
Boosters, more for placing high
And yeah maybe but they give you so much shit

>>96029385
I feel like it, i have 60 of the chip and dale promo alone

>>96029489
Even if you don't think you can win, have fun and learn a lot, anon! Winning can always come later.

>>96029508
>60
That's... excessive. Too bad they don't follow Dalmatian Puppy rules.

They must be getting much more promotional product than attendance, which could actually be a bad thing. Either way, good for you for finding such a generous Lorcana dealer.

>>96029531
We get like 10~ people per locals, but it hurts because my store wont make it weekly, its bi weekly with free plays inbetween

>>96029534
Ah, so there IS a downside. Well, at least you get the free plays.

>>96029355
>entry - free
>playkit - raffled to players randomly
My store gets a lot of local families who hang out shoot the shit play a few games then get dinner and go home, and I would say if anything the only thing this prevents is the one powerdad who loves disney from getting everything by maxing out his points. Very few times did a single person who just likes the game get a reward due to the points system so now at least everyone is pretty much equal. We get around 10-15 here

>>96029815
Kill it with fire!!!!

>>96029815
>>95903359

>>96029815
Rawr ^_^

I'd like to give F&B a try, coming from Magic Legacy, Vintage and Cube. Is drafting to be avoided for a first event? I'm a bit skeptical because I'm not going to be able to assess which cards are money, which cards are good for limited etc. I also haven't drafted Magic outside of cube since 2014.

>>96030204
Why are you concerned about money hits if you intend to draft? Just play the game as best you can. The real reason draft is rough is FaB has very rigid lanes you have to learn how to move into quickly.
Also, for the more recent sets the big hits replace token/basic cards at the back of the pack. These hits are removed (and kept) by the player who opens them and can not be used in your draft pool. Sure, that doesn't capture absolutely EVERY valuable card but it goes a long way.

I can't tell you if you should avoid draft for a first event because I don't know you. I did a draft, built a shit deck, got wrecked and was fine. Other people sperg the fuck out about "wasting" their time the second they realize their pool is bad and drop 0-1. Others still start with constructed, get completely mindbroken, and spend 5 years shitposting on /acg/ about how much they hate FaB.

>>96030204
>I'm a bit skeptical because I'm not going to be able to assess which cards are money
that's easy, if there's a red M at the bottom you draft it for money value
>which cards are good for limited
that's harder and I'd recommend not playing draft as your first event for that reason, but then there's the problem of "how exactly do you get into FaB on a trial basis when the average deck is $1000+?" The answer is to borrow a deck from someone at your local (and then decide if you want to draft after you're familiar with the mechanics/basic rules). But my sincere advice would be to just not play the game lmao

bless this thread
finally, FINALLY we are winning hearts and minds
FINALLY we are pushing back against the FABGOT menace
victory is at last in sight!
long live /acg/!

>>96030383
>But my sincere advice would be to just not play the game lmao
*UNLESS* you are trans, in which case you will be right at home
>>96030404
based fuckfabber

>>96011935
>no FABGOT has ever been able to refute this
See how they retreat? How they ignore the obviovs trvth?
A post untouched by (You)s because of it's overwhelming reality. The FABGOT has ever been a low IQ gamelet, incapable of discerning strategy or lack thereof.

>>96029358
>I pay 5 bucks
What. The. FUCK???
NOBODY should have to pay money JUST to enter an event. Don't these scumbag capitalists realize events are a promotion, not a sale? They should be fucking GRATEFUL anyone even visits their shitty store.
ALL entry and prizes should be FREE. Do you hear me LGS-fags? YOU need to appeal to ME enough that I buy some snacks while I'm there. If you don't understand the difference between a PROMOTIONAL and a SALE then you need to be driven out of business.

>>96030383
>how exactly do you get into FaB on a trial basis when the average deck is $1000+?
I've heard that it's quite expensive yeah but I've also heard elsewhere that's on the cheaper side. What's the deal? I'm not really in a position to go and drop $1000 on a new game even if I do like it - I mostly use fake Magic cards. I played the online tutorial but looking at the cards in the pirate set seems like there's alot of other mechanics.

>>96030330
The money thing is more just because I don't want to throw money away where it could be avoided (but then why am I playing a TCG?). It's like in Magic you never pass money at a FNM draft and even during Pro Tours years ago people would draft foil FS Tarmogoyfs even if it didn't fit their deck.

>>96030593
>looking at the cards in the pirate set seems like there's alot of other mechanics
which will never be used ever again, like every set, each comes with a bunch of rules that won't ever be used again, they even went out of their way to silo reviled/revered so it won't interact with light/shadow talents

>>96030593
Just so you know, Tarmogoyf is unplayable trash now.

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