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What are the best near-future and cyberpunk settings around other than *the* Cyberpunk and Netrunner? I never ever glanced over other near-future universes other than these two and I am in a mood for grabbing a handful of sourcebooks and digging into something new.

>>96004443 (OP)
You don't need more.

>>96004443 (OP)
It's less "pure" cyberpunk and more "what if Shadowrun, but good" but I really loce Ventangle. It's a slick, rules-lite ero-RPG set in a crashed starship turned cyberpunk megacity full of fun locales, cool tech, and underdistricts chock full of all sorts of biohorrors, tech abominations, magical monstrosities, and general freaks. Plus it's made by Ryo, the guy behind Nechronica and even borrows some of the concepts and ideas he used in Nech, as well as some reimagined NPCs from Nech and other games he's made.

>>96004651
Forgot pic

>>96004651
is there a pdf flying around? shadowrun but good sound snice

>>96005085
It doesn't have all the expansion material yet, but the wiki is your best bet for info, especially since we can't post pdfs on /tg/ anymore
https://ventangle.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
I thimk the MTL pdfs for expansions are also on the wiki but I haven't checked in a while so I can't say for sure.

I will say Vent is honestly one of my favorite systems and settings.

>>96005103
nice thanks

>>96004443 (OP)

Those are very bad.

>>96004443 (OP)
Eclipse Phase would be too far of a future?

>>96007943
That's post-cyberpunk.

>>96008329
It kind of depends on where you are in the setting. A game set in the LLA or on Mars can be very cyberpunk.

>>96004443 (OP)
Where would you count something like Cowboy Beebop? (I assume there's source books for playing it, I'd at least hope so and it's big enough)

>>96008339
Been a while since I looked into EP (outside of old fanfics). Are those locations developed enough and is there analogue of a Chromebook for me salivate over?

>>96007943
Is that how she would look if she somehow survived getting pancaked by Adam Smasher?

>>96007943
>Becca wuth fat tits
Kill yourself, swine

>>96013073
Why are pedophiles afraid of breasts?

>>96006021
Glad to help! I also heartily recommend Tokyo NOVA, especially if you're looking for "pure" cyberpunk, though the expansions do introduce some supernatural stuff if you want vampires in your cyberpunk. It uses a playing card based system instead of dice which is real fun, and it's vibe is much more "high octane 80s action OVA" over the more gritty stimulationist vibes of CP2020/RED. It abstracts miney and resources into a singular metacurrency and there's no humanity system so you can get chromed to the gills if you have the resources for it. There's even a specific cosmetic mod to make yourself look boxy and shiny like some sort of low polygon motherfucker.

>>96013083
>if you like short, flat girls with wide hips you're a pedophile
Oh no, it's Australian

>>96013114
>why yes I'm attracted to traits of little girls but I'm not a pedophile
Kek.

>>96013207
Didn't realize little kids had wide, child-birthing hips, but then you're the child-ogling expert, not me. Also
>I'm sexually attracted to a character but I'm afraid of being called a pedo so I'm going to staple tits to her
I get the feeling you've got some skeletons in your closet to cope and overcompensate like this.

>>96009200
Relatively? Both of them are described in more detail in the setting book Sunward. There are a couple of books that have gear porn as well.

>>96013277
>wide hips
You okay choom? Becca is a typical loli body type.

>>96013442
Shinobu she ain't, anon.

>>96013525
Choom? These are not child birthing hips....

>>96009314
>somehow
She's coming back anon, season 2 just got confirmed

>>96009314
>>96018300
Just in case you thought Anon was being a faggot and pulling shit out of his ass like it's his mothers toys.

>https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/51617/cyberpunk-edgerunners-2-is-now-in-production

>>96018333
But he IS pulling shit out of his ass, S2 is a completely new standalone story with new standalone characters. David is dead and his story is done.

>>96018913
I'll accept that. The fault is mine.

>>96018996
Role playing not roll playing.

>>96004651
>It's less "pure" cyberpunk and more "what if Shadowrun, but good" but I really loce Ventangle.

Tell me more.

>Plus it's made by Ryo, the guy behind Nechronica

Tell me less.

nothing in particular against Nechronica, it's just too bleak and fucked-up for me.

>>96004443 (OP)
Splatoon

>>96022664
>nothing in particular against Nechronica, it's just too bleak and fucked-up for me.
That's really bizarre, because Nechronica is literally all about hope, friendship, and triumphing over despair. Also, every Ryo game is completely different in tone, or do you also avoid Ryuutama because Nechronica hurt your feelings?

Ventangle is imo way more bleak and depressive, and that's just because it's your standard cyberpunk setup, only with magic to make everything more fucked up - like plucking your soul out of your body and shoving it into animalistic manual labor meat machines for a few years/decades - and the fat cats at the top are literally ageless Eternal Leading Figures (ELFs).

Really, I don't get why you're in a thread about cyberpunk systems/settings if a game about hope and friendship triumphing over death itself is "too bleak and fucked up". I think you might need to go to DnD General and find yourself some Weenie Hut Jr. settings, because Cyberpunk is inherently about bleak, fucked up worlds full of bleak, fucked-up people.

>>96022664
>nothing in particular against Nechronica, it's just too bleak and fucked-up for me.
Nechronica is all about struggling to see the light in the dark and finding your place in the long, long sequel alongside your friends. You can have a super hope-pilled Nechronica game if you want. I'd say it's pretty easy, even; all the ones I've played in have had hopeful endings (although the two I ran myself were downers, I'll grant you that).

>>96013073
>fat
They are fully chromed and weaponized.

>>96005103
>we can't post pdfs on /tg/ anymore
Truly, we are in a falling age

>>96004443 (OP)
I really like Hunter//Seeker an unfinished wip that set to update 2020 pre red's release, I really like it's ghost in the shell stand-alone complex style cyberpunk espionage feel its got going for it, you should be able to find it searching the archive since I can't post the pdf for it. Also one of my friends who plays forged in the dark stuff swears by "Runners in the Shadows" which I think is meant to be legally distinct shadowrun.
>>96007943
Saucenao, Google and Yandex's reverse image search have failed me in finding this, so please gimmie the sauce anon.

>>96022924
Nta but Shadowrun has never been particularly bleak though. Magic and technomancy acts as equalizers against corpos fucking everything up despite them literally running the world. Even dragons got humbled when they try shit. Shadowrun might be fantasy cyberpunk but is more more hopeful than most cyberpunk settings.

>>96023109
This is literally because of the hack, the PDF upload shit is how they took down the site because the staff post-moot genuinely don't know how to update the site and are tech illiterate. The hack revealed that this site still uses the same codebase that it did in 2015 with only small modifications like the new captcha and stuff. The site is still hosted on old 2010s computers that moot got on the cheap too. The site unironically died when moot sold it because the new staff doesn't know how to maintain it and has no interest in doing so.

>>96023473
Shadowrun is plenty bleak in concepts, but the fact Billy Talks-like-Thunder is a legitimate character concept and possibly the group's power house makes it come across as more cartoonish.
Hell as fucked up and dark as the Renraku Arcology adventure is, little things like advertisements about the important of getting your kid augs early so they can be good worker drones, is something out of a 90s B Movie.
Also the fact that a section of the adventure is about Da Vinci turning out to be an immortal elf who hid some special code in a secret room on a secret computer inside this facility where AM has taken over, and the only reason to recover it is to help settle a bet between some dragons...
That's just ridiculous and kind of makes you forget about all of the slaughter, torture, turning people into drones, etc that is going on in the Arcology.

>>96024244
I don't particularly like shadowrun as a setting (or game) but one thing I did find amusing is that the concept of shadowrunners is taken literally in setting and does a decent job of showing how commercialized even that is with runners having their own tv shows where they broadcast their "runs" and even shadowrunner table top game being a thing in setting.

As such, the corpos have won in all regard and the bleak reality of having high ideals as a kid and being a corporate head hunter to pay the bills comes across rather well.

>>96024330
Exactly
In a world where Karl Kombatmage exists, but also there's loads of protests against fantasy elements in TV shows trivializing real life... But also there's a well known political organization called the Sons of Sauron, it paints the picture or an incredibly silly world closer to 2000AD than Cyberpunk.

Though you do definitely see that when the devs said Earthdawn is about being heroic explorers discovering the ruins of the old world and making new legends of good, while Shadowrun is what if evil won before those heroes were even born, they meant it and baked it into the setting.
Almost every new discovery or concept introduced in the first few generations of books are inherently corrupted before they ever reach the public, if not were found already corrupt thanks to how fucked to world is.

But that doesn't stop the pink mohawk rocker from doing an amazing show and starting a riot.

>>96023473
Shadowrun is your typical cyberpunk dystopia except all the rich bastards at the top are literally immortal elves and dragons playing long games you can't hope to comprehend and also there's ghost bugs in the walls waiting to eat your soul if you misstep. Oh, also you can be born with soul autism and only machines will accept you as kin.

It may not be the most downer cyberpunk dystopia out there, but there's not really a lot of hope for things to get better.

>>96026208
>except all the rich bastards at the top are literally immortal
don't get the except. the genre started with this concept

>>96026925
The except is the elves and dragons part.
That said he leaves out the best part of how early Shadowrun leans hard into this with one of the most famous adventure modules being a series of seemingly uncommon jobs that are basically just helping a crazy elf get revenge for a slight inflicted upon him by another elf back in the Renaissance.

>>96004443 (OP)
Underground
Mutant Chronicles
Shadowrun
Transmetropolitan
Judge Dredd

>>96026925
Damn, didn't know Wintermute was a dragon. Must've missed that part of Neuromancer.

>>96023243
>Saucenao, Google and Yandex's reverse image search have failed me in finding this
try seaching it by character name on the usual suspects (r34, danbooru/gelbooru, pixiv)

>>96026925
Not even remotely true in Neuromancer. Not only are the Tessier-Ashpools long lived through cryogenics stretching their lives rather than actually living longer, they're explicitly the exceptions and corporate executives are just as mortal and replaceable as every other worker.

>>96022968
>>96022924
Whoa there. I love Nechronica but we're talking about a game where the core rulebook explicitly states that the players should be given hope just enough so it can be taken away.
Not to mention basically every piece of official lore is an idea book of various ways the dolls can be abused.
It's a great game, but I don't think it should be advertized as something else than derpiest grimderp (as a system. Every Necromancer naturally running it how they like)

>>96031136
I've done so, still nothing.

>>96037401
There is that bit character in the beginning who's been cheating death with a yearly operation to "flip his telomeres" but even that's sort of implied to not be a permanent solution

>>96037690
>I don't think it should be advertized as something else than derpiest grimderp
Then you've completely missed the entire point of the game. There's a reasin the officially published replay ends with two of the Dolls rekindling the human race, after all.

>>96022924
Is Zettai Reido a Ryo game

>>96038168
>two of the Dolls rekindling the human race
I FUCKING KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY
I KNEW I READ IT SOMEWHERE

Got a sauce for me to prove to myself I haven't developed schizophrenia?

>>96038113
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/9519950

>>96041601
https://nechronica.miraheze.org/wiki/Replay:_Flowers_of_Hope_after_the_End_of_the_World

you're lucky I woke up hour too early for some reason

>>96039842
Yep. There's a few influences/references to it in Ventangle, even, since Ryo just kinda threw whatever he wanted or liked into the game. He even has John Deadspace as an NPC.

>>96037401
Except for Virek in Count Zero, but he's also explicitly an oddity and his "life" kind of isn't

>>96043562
Based Spider anon

>>96004443 (OP)
I suppose this might be as good a thread to ask this in as any.

What would be an interesting way of weaving horror elements into cyberpunk?

>>96018913
>S2 is a completely new standalone story with new standalone characters
As should be, honestly. Much better this way

>>96013073
She's so stupid in canon.

>Gah, why does the cold and distant girl get all David's attention, and not me?

No! It's that Lucy has big fat tits and you're flat, you fucking idiot! How do you get to be your age without learning this?

>>96052610
>an interesting way of weaving horror elements into cyberpunk?
Body horror and cyberpunk goes together like cinnamon and apple.
>what if cybernetic implant... but no anesthesia? and not much care for disinfection?
or
>what if cyborg, but parts of the brain is amputated too, so the human can be controlled like a robot?

>>96004443 (OP)
Transhuman Space isn't super cyberpunk, but it's a pretty cool near future setting (2100). It was written c. 2000, so it has some surprisingly prescient stuff (including a still-authoritarian China as the largest economic power and a major bloc that is ideologically Islamist), but also some things that, err, did not happen at all (NK and SK reunify in the 10s).

>>96004443 (OP)
>near-future and cyberpunk setting
May I suggest some tasteful biopunk? Check out The Windup Girl.
It's a post-collapse post-global warming world, but where biotech are still kinda ubiquitous, thanks to them not needed fossile energy source.
So people use beefed-up elephants as tractors, GMO crops are a staple, there's a lot of mutant invasive species and Japan created a few breeds of GM humans.

It's "What if Cyberpunk but with Monsanto?" rather than "What if Steampunk but with flesh instead of cogs?" kind of biopunk, which is the best kind, if you ask me.

>>96053933
Yeah it actually makes me interested in what they'll do. If it was a "proper" sequel I probably wouldn't watch.
>>96053987
She's not at all surprised why David is stuck on Lucy, retard. Hell, she doesn't even TRY to take a shot at him because she knows he's got massive oneitis and basically lives for Lucy at that point.

>>96055410
>She's not at all surprised why David is stuck on Lucy, retard. Hell, she doesn't even TRY to take a shot at him because she knows he's got massive oneitis and basically lives for Lucy at that point.
You are too stupid to live, but calling others dumb. Here's what I was referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZsgNFyPEAs

Becca: "Hey! I ain't good at playing just friends!"
Kiwi: "Considered shaking up your approach?"
Becca: "Yeah? How you figure? 'Stead of hot and loud, I try cold, distant, and nerdy?"

No, try having fat tits, dumbass. It's 2077, if you can get blue skin, you can get a boobjob.

>>96054016
>biopunk
That's just diet cyberpunk. Cyberpunk already has massive "biopunk" elements, with designer organs/kids, vat-grown ninja butlers, etc.

>>96055457
>dubfag
Well there's your problem, double retard. She's much more subdued in her pining in the actual version of the show.

>>96055476
A subfag who has an IQ that's sub-zero, name a more iconic duo. Here it is in the subbed version:

>Becca: "Why you gotta play hard-to-get all the time?!"
>Kiwi: "Why don't you shake up your approach?"
>Becca: "Yeah? Think I should play shy and nerdy... at the shy and nerdy?"

>>96018913
>David is dead and his story is done

Spoiler alert jackass! Some of us just started watching. Just because David dies doesn't mean they can't bring back some of our other favorites like Rebecca or Maine for the second season.

>>96004651
>ero
???

>>96055566
>Some of us just started watching
His name is in the drink menu at Afterlife in CP2077, retard.

>>96055520
>A subfag who has an IQ that's sub-zero
Lmao EOP cope.
>Becca: "Yeah? Think I should play shy and nerdy... at the shy and nerdy?"
Which is already way more toned down. And again, she obviously WANTED him but fully acknowledged that this particular fight was over before it began. Trigger writing is unironically 2deep4u, and that's a real tough place to be.

>>96055738
Admitting you were wrong is hard, I know, especially when as a person with sub-zero IQ you have to pretend like you're so sophisticated and smart because you read anime.

>>96055749
>Admitting you were wrong is hard
Projecting, are we?
>sub-zero IQ
It's cute that you think this is so clever. Too bad you stole it from reddit.
>have to pretend like you're so sophisticated and smart because you read anime.
Just because I don't wallow in filth and grime doesn't mean I think I'm sophisticated. But I guess EVERYONE seems sophisticated to a dungpicker.

>>96055846
Yes, yes, you're so stupid you believe you win by default as long as you can make the last post by making shitty, garbage posts like this. You already lost, you've given up and resorted to insults, because that's all you can do to try to endure this fight for longer.

>>96055468
You can have biopunk without rooting it in cyberpunk, where everything runs on flesh little to no involvement of machines - Orc Stain, Scorn, arguably Flintstones.

>>96055978
>no u!
lol
>you believe you win by default as long as you can make the last post
And more projection.

>>96053987
>>96055457
>>96055520
>>96055749
>>96055978
>the DFC hating bloatfaggot is also a retarded dubcuck whose clogging up this thread with his faggotry
Ya hate to see it

>>96055597
Seriously? You can't imagine what "ero" might be short for?

Erotic, it's short for erotic. It's a cumgame TRPG. Though the system itself is pretty easily divorced from the ero aspects and Ryo even made an "All-Range Mode" that pressure washes all the cum away. I think it's weaker for that since casual debauchery and cyberpunk go hand in hand, but I get it since in this very thread you've got people wringing their hands because they're too squeamish for fucking Nechronica.

>>96056087
>casual debauchery and cyberpunk go hand in hand
Sure, but what if we wanna ramp it up to competitive debauchery?

>>96055717
>CP2077

I've never played that trash, just 2020 and RED

>>96056135
Ventangle pretty much does that with the people running the show being debauched magical immortals or cybergods that feed off "worship" through streaming entertaining stuff.

You can even take a passive where you livestream all your actions and gain a few credits every time you roll well during fighting or fucking, though it comes at the cost of no longer reducing Karma post-fight/fuck.

>>96055468
Normally I'd agree with you, but Windup Girl is actually pretty neat and manages to be its own thing.

Pretty wild how like only two anons mentioned actual game systems and everyone else are just a bunch of nogames shilling settingslop. No wonder this board is dying.

For me is Eclipse Phase, and if you find the rules too heavy, try Eclipse Phase Transhumanity's Fate.

>>96062278
>OP asks about cyberpunk settings
>OH MY GOD HOW DARE YOU GUYS MENTION SETTINGS YOU PIECES OF SHIT ARE KILLING THE BOARD!

>>96070000
Ignore the troll, quadking. He's pissy that people who actually run roleplaying games like to talk about settings and worldbuilding.

>>96004443 (OP)
Have you tried Infinity the Game yet? Some 280 years into the future, factions vary in different levels of technology and punk.

>>96070000
I shouldn't have to specify that I want a cyberpunk GAME setting to run a TRPG in on the TRADITIONAL GAMES board, not to read some gay ass book about how Monsanto bad because he made the tomamtos transgender or whatever bluhd is blathering about here >>96054016

>>96054006
THS is great because it has such an unusual point of divergence. Lots of the great RPGs that reference real world history came out in the 1980s, so they have the USSR still around and what not. THS has a post-9/11 but pre Iraq War point of divergence which results in some cool alt history like South Africa not being a shithole (since they were on an upward trajectory until 2012 or so IRL)

>>96071098
Dude. Calm down. Drink some water. Don't get triggered by some words.

>>96071116
>since they were on an upward trajectory until 2012 or so IRL
Literally only heard you say this. Got literature so I know you aren't shitting me? /srs I really need to know what other people were thinking re: African advancement.

>>96071135
I just heard some saffer say that once. At least their GDP growth charts partially support it since there's a dip after 2008 but it climbs again until 2012 or so

>>96004443 (OP)
Johnny Mnemonic has an interesting setting, although it's clearly inspired by Cyberpunk

>>96024172
dude just sanitize your inputs

>>96071224
You think any of these people can be trusted let alone know how to do that?

>>96071116
South Africa's GDP per capita has fallen since a 2011 peak and then mostly flatlined.

In general, THS has a slightly-off developmental model because it's been ~25 years since it was written. It greatly underestimated how fast countries can develop - it has the PRC become a larger economy than the USA in 2070, when the PRC has larger GDP (PPP) today, and probably will have larger nominal GDP in the ~2030s at current rates.

By extension, when they were looking for an "African powerhouse," they picked South Africa (reasonable enough, given its upward trajectory at the time), but then left the entire rest of Sub-Saharan Africa poor as fuck. Also did my boys in Botswana dirty, having them as tagalongs to SA's advance, when in reality they've outpaced it.

>>96071272
Oop, meant to reply to >>96071135

>>96071272
>It greatly underestimated how fast countries can develop - it has the PRC become a larger economy than the USA in 2070, when the PRC has larger GDP (PPP) today
At the time of writing the Chinese were still riding bikes and dressing in Mao suits. It's a grounded setting but they didn't have a crystal ball

>>96071272
Interesting. Mostly because of it tells of what other people think about when they attempt to be prescient based solely on what they can observe in the present.

>>96071292
True. People focus on what they see right now and extrapolate the next year or so into a decade without considering that prescience is compounding, not simple. Doubt anyone considered Covid popping up or the fucking NFT/Crypto/Gen-LLM scams popping up. Did they?

>>96071302
IMO crowdsourcing is the absolute biggest thing that people didn't see coming, THS got drones and AI but not crowdsourcing. I learned how to take apart my shotgun from a guy standing on his rooftop in Lahore filming a Youtube short

>>96071319
There was citizen science that was crowdsourcing data collection to private volunteers. But I guess they never thought people could crowdsource each other. To add depth to a setting, you should take an aspect of the world you see and try to expand on it; Assume people buy-in on it or that it is successful instead of trying to find the path to it becoming successful.

>>96071127
Nobody cares about your gameless yapping, nogames.