>Sorcerer: A Master of Sorcerous Power
>Wizard: A Master of Wizardly Power

>>96013411 (OP)
It’s all the same thing.

>>96013411 (OP)
"Psion/ Psionic" is a less commonly known word than Sorcerer or Wizard, so it makes sense to explain the word as simply as possible.

>>96013421
nogames

>>96013411 (OP)
>anon discovers a tautology

>>96013582
Sorry I don’t abide by autistic boxes laid out by redundant hair splitting.

>>96013411 (OP)
I don't dislike psionic magic in principle, I like classic ESP and esper bullshit, telekinesis, general Star Wars shit.
I just don't think it coexists well in a setting with several different types of magic. There's too much esoteric energy bullshit going on. I prefer my settings to have one grand magical paradigm, perhaps with variations, but not several different types of power that are all mixed up.

>>96013535
>Blerk
>A Master of Blerky Power
Do you know now what a Blerk is?

>>96013411 (OP)
I'll stick with psychic or esper, thank you

>>96013411 (OP)
>English language problems
Did this really required a thread?

>>96013411 (OP)
That sentence is missing a period, just like your sister after I banged her on your Sonic the Hedgehog bedsheets, so where's the rest of it?

>>96013411 (OP)
>Fighting man: A Master of Fighting Manly Power

>>96013680
Psionic is a more well-known word than Psion, yes.

>>96013601
This is the tradicional games board, not the ruleless acting homo board.
>>96013844
There should be one more chick on the other side too.

>>96013411 (OP)
>OP: A Master of Faggotry

>>96013844
like yeah it's manly and i got a boner and all, but what's the circumstance of this naked bint hugging his leg on top of a pile of freshly slin bodies? it's always some chick in fuck-me scraps either during or immediately after an insanely lethal situation she should be nowhere near armed with a knife at best. and again yeah the pieces are usually well draw and all, but what the fuck even is this specific sword and sandal substrata?

>>96013787
If you're trolling you got me, here's your (You)

>>96013876
Horseshit.

They are both nerd terms used by nerds to describe nerd shit that all nerds know already.

If you aren't a nerd either term is as alien as the other.
>>96013421
Mechanically this is true and it pisses me off to no end. I can see having magical resistance to shit in a game that has a lot of magic, however, psionic abilities are supposed these incredibly god damn rare things but they are treated exactly the same as a sorcerer casting a spell in terms of resistance effects 99 times out of 100.

>>96019741
>it's always some chick in fuck-me scraps either during or immediately after an insanely lethal situation she should be nowhere near armed with a knife at best
Conan was literally born from a chick who was in a battlefield while pregnant.

>>96019741
>what's the circumstance of this naked bint hugging his leg on top of a pile of freshly slain bodies?

Because it's cool.

>>96019968
>psionic abilities are supposed these incredibly god damn rare things
Depends on the setting.

>>96013421
It isn't in games that establish they're different things through their function in gameplay.

>>96013411 (OP)
Yes, D&D is trash.
We know.

>>96019968
>Mechanically this is true and it pisses me off to no end. I can see having magical resistance to shit in a game that has a lot of magic, however, psionic abilities are supposed these incredibly god damn rare things but they are treated exactly the same as a sorcerer casting a spell in terms of resistance effects 99 times out of 100.

Psionics is just mind magic dressed up in pseudo-scientific terminology to make it feel more sci-fi rather than fantasy. Nothing actually says they are rare outside people who insist on them being segregated. If the class had been called "Mesmerist" with the exact same capabilities you wouldn't be complaining.

>>96020518
The mechanics of a game shouldn't be about how they feel or what mouthbreather literature misnomer they seem like, they should be about how they function in the game.
If something isn't magic in terms of a given game, it shouldn't function like the magic of that given game.
Not the Anon you responded to, but your post was so vapid I couldn't help but jump in.

>>96019968
You have more to gain narratively making a difference instead of wanting mechanical differences. Like why would I need a whole new seven pages of mechanics to shoot a revolver and another seven pages about any other handgun I’m too tired and annoyed to name

>>96020546
>If something isn't magic in terms of a given game, it shouldn't function like the magic of that given game.
Because of what it’s literally doing the same thing. Unless your setting has 40k in it somewhere and mind mages explode into prolapsed demonic assholes theres literally no reason to do this other than make your game clunky and or annoying. What you should be worried about is character progression, paths, utility , support, etc etc not “okay you want to cast a mind fireball? jump on one leg and say the alphabet backwards :)”

>>96020546
My point isn't vapid. Your point is. Psionic is actually just a funky name for "mind magic" mostly pushed by those who don't want their "psychic" powers to be called "magic" so that they can be overpowered outside context problems for "normal" magic users. They were introduced early in D&D's life because someone didn't want to play a "normal" Magic-User so a bunch of rules for psionic combat were created. These rules then ended up forcing Gygax to give pretty much every high end threat their own suite of overpowered psionic powers in the 1e Monster Manual in order to prevent Psions and Wild Talents from easily defeating them due to how much the psionic combat rules favored those with psionics over those that didn't have them.

>>96013421
this
>>96013582
In good games they are the same thing.

>>96013411 (OP)
OP: a master of spamming dogshit threads with mod protection

>>96020167
Yes, we know you are stupid and don't play tabletop games.
>>96021239
>t. tard who never played any game

>>96019973
that's not what's shown in the pictures. did she get pregnant on the battlefield too?

>>96020625
That's fine for D&D, but other games don't have to make their powers function like that. Feelings and literature have no bearing on games, and I'm sick of people pretending they do.

>>96024658
Other games usually stick to one rule system for their "magic" as it limits the need for a game to ask how do these two different types of magic mechanically interact with each other. If you've every actually paid attention you should notice that games tend to use a general "magic" system (if fantasy) or a more specialized "psychics/psionics" system if more sci-fi.

D&D and its descendants/clones (such as Palladium's Rifts) are some of the few games that have tried (and for the most part failed) to properly include both a general magic systems and a psionic system at the same time. This lead to a bunch of different rules for how these distinct systems interacted until the devs decided to give up and just include psionics in the base magic system rather than try to make it anything distinct.

The actual biggest success stories for settings and games that both include separate magic and psionic systems has involved isolating users of each system from each other. Dark Sun made using Arcane magic taboo and Divine magic (mostly) impossible and so Psionics was the primary "magic" system of the setting. Psionics in Eberron were pretty much locked to their own sub-setting.

>>96013421
In old books they are synonyms and both are demonic.

>>96020518
>Psionics is just mind magic dressed up in pseudo-scientific terminology to make it feel more sci-fi rather than fantasy. Nothing actually says they are rare outside people who insist on them being segregated. If the class had been called "Mesmerist" with the exact same capabilities you wouldn't be complaining.
3.5e at least isn't "mind magic" unless you specialise in that specifically, it's magic that uses a mana pool and is more ad hoc in effect, instead of the weird Jack Vance thing that no one else outside D&D uses.

The original idea for D&D psionics was for it to function like superpowers - letting your character have one or two decent magical tricks on an otherwise martial character, rather than having to be a squishy guy whose whole progression is based around learning more and more spells.