I dont know if this is a fair comparison to make, but in my mind, these are the two most popular sci fi and fantasy settings respectively. And at least fill that hole in my mind of "classic fiction action-adventure trilogy" of movies. But to me the star wars og trillogy setting feels so much larger and LotR feels so much more constrictive. At least for RPGs and wargames.

the events of LotR feel like they happen very rapidly one after another, while there is much more space between events in the star wars trilogy. like 10 years of empire at its hight before the first movie is set, like 2 years between 1 and 2 where the alliance is building up after the destruction of the death star, then another one before the battle of endor. thats like 13 years were you can get things set in the "overpowered empire, scrappy rebels, and smugglers" setting. While all the events of LotR happen over like a year or two. and most of the big things happen days apart, like the rohirrim joining Ghondor or the revelation of Sarumons betrayal. where you get a few months time of "the united free peoples of middle earth, powers of darkness, and travellers".

ps, yes not talking about eu or silmarillion + hobbit

>settings literature settings film settings

>>96026559 (OP)
Traditional games?

>>96026559 (OP)
Yes, and?

>>96026559 (OP)
... traditional games?

>>96026559 (OP)
I think, in addition to the main events of the LotR trilogy all happening in a relatively short period of time, it's also that the world in LotR much heavily revolves around the stuff happening in the books. Like sure, there are lands that don't feature in the books, but there also doesn't seem to be that much going on there while the main conflict between good and evil is occurring in the focus. The original SW trilogy was very good at giving an impression of a world that continued to exist outside the camera, with a lot of references to offscreen locations and things, so you could very easily have a campaign that occurs at the same time the events of the original film take place, but the players are a completely different rebel cell fighting the Empire on some other planet or smugglers running from the law.
Also helps that a Star Wars campaihn without Luke, Vader, or the Death Star is still clearly Star Wars since you still have the other iconic elements like the ships, the droids, the stormtroopers, and the aliens, while LotR without the Ring, the Fellowship, or Sauron just turns into generic fantasy with the same bog-standard orc, elves, and dwarves that appear in every single fantasy RPG.

>>96030490
>>96030649
Piss off if you have nothing to add. He clearly said in the context of the setting suiting a wargame/RPG. It's twats like you this board is almost nothing but [insert game here] general these days.

>>96030760
>Stop pointing out utter offtopic is offtopic, or else someone might notice!
Stay mad faggot. This thread isn't even about worldbuilding, it's inane rambling about a non-subject. For all I know, OP might as well have a stroke when writing his post and it would made equal amount of sense

>>96030760
>Piss off if you have nothing to add
Maybe because there is no subject to add into? Or maybe because it has fuck-all with games and playing them?
>But it clearly said it's about settings in wargame/RPG
... yes, and?
I saw dumber threads that added "in your setting", I guess they were all wrongfully persecuted. After all, it was all hobby-related.

And faggots like you are the reasons generals are the only place where actual games and gaming are still being discusses at fucking all on this board.

>>96030760
>The original SW trilogy was very good at giving an impression of a world that continued to exist outside the camera
Dude, Lotr is chock full of this. Harad. Dunlendings. Entwives, Angmar and the Dunedain, the fucking deep ones. There's an entire sequence where Gimli just talks about a fantastical cave he saw "offscreen" a moment ago. I'd say it even does a better job than star wars at making its world feel real, but it's close (and especially impressive for SW because it doesn't have an entire written history to oull from).

>>96030760
Thanks for actually adressing the topic.
Yah, when I watch people play the middle earth strategy battle game, its always a repeate of like 2 things: hornburg, pelanor feilds, and Battle of the Black Gate. While I feel like there is much more room to breath in star wars based game outside of just endor, hoth, and yavin.

>>96030955
Yeah I don't know what tgisbdude is talking about. Even in the movies these things are referenced so regardless of whether or not OP is illiterate, his post makes no sense.

>>96031497
>tgisbdude

>>96030760
I think that Sauron is such an overarching presence that it isn't really 'Lord of the Rings' without the Lord of the Rings.
That said, Sauron was doing his thing for centuries before the books, but it was more subtle, a buildup of power, before he unleashed it in the books.

>>96026559 (OP)
>Star Wars
>sci fi

>>96030760
So... traditional games?

>>96033456
this, Star Wars has always been considered to be space fantasy, not science ficttion.

>>96033456
>>96036912
Scifi has always included fantasy in space. Dune or lensman weren't trying to predict shit, for example.

>>96037164
Yeah, so there's no need to have a separate term for it.

>>96026559 (OP)
It's a matter of urgency. In Star Warts, the goal is to destroy the Death Star, but after that the goal is "stop the Empire." The Death Star had urgency to it, it's coming to get you. But the Empire has been after the rebellion for years, there's no urgency there anymore, not until another Death Star is being built. But on LotR, Sauron's return is an immediate threat, he's actively looking for the Ring, there's urgency to the plot so they can't take their time resolving it.

>>96030760
>He clearly said in the context of the setting suiting a wargame/RPG.
All he did was cite plot points within each story's timeframe. He made no clear attempt to link them to games.