Are you going to be trying out Dolmenwood with the physical book releasing soon? Have you played it?
I think it looks neat

>>96042476 (OP)
I liked the original drafts and sketches in Wormskin but the latest versions are too sanitized.

>>96042476 (OP)
Nah, I got enough RPGs not getting played as is. Not adding to the pile. I'm done. Gonna round out my board game collection with a few expansions for shit I have and I'm done with that too. The only hobby stuff I might be doing in the future is getting a 3D printer to make minis for painting as I find that aspect relaxing. Just need to find some gooner tier minis.

>>96042476 (OP)
>bait-and-switch from OSE setting to new game
>remove all the actual cool aspects for generic "le fae are so whimsical!" slop
>overcharge
Yeah no thanks, fuck Necrotic Gnome

already read it, it's amazing

>>96044217
If you really did, you'd not think it's amazing.

>>96044312
I really read all 600 or so pages and loved it. Maybe I just have shit taste or low standards but I really enjoyed.

>>96044325
I don't believe anyone who likes the dumbed down sanitized version.

>>96044485
I don't know what was dumbed down. What was changed?

>>96042476 (OP)
Buy
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>>96042476 (OP)
No, fuck Gavin Norman.

>>96043286
based Bodhisattva-anon

>>96042476 (OP)
It will be hailed as second coming of rpgs. Just like Femceldark

>>96045878
Isn't it just a setting/campaign book for OSR? Looked fun to do a hexcrawl in, but not a lot of people are interested in that kind of game.

I didn't really know much about these but it's kind of crazy you would make 1.5$ million or whatever on KS and then decide the immediate next thing you needed to do was cater to a bunch of whining retards. Out of what? Fear of being cancelled? Changing that goatmen lore was CRAZY.

>>96042922
I don't understand why it was removed. It's not like we haven't had really dark folk horror be popular in the last decade or so. People love horror films with this kinda stuff.

>>96046857
Maximising market reach or whatever bullshit marketing team spews.

>>96046830
>>96046857

Can I get a qrd on this? I only just saw these books recently on Drive Thru RPG

>>96042476 (OP)
Never heard of it. What's it about?

>>96047467
200 individually detailed hexes covering an area not quite the size of Wales. Witches, fey, druids and animal-people.
You play as the normal sort of people who live on the edge and venture into the woods for gold and glory.

Old B/X had more about horrible human-sacrifce and rape in the deep woods by druids and monsters. New version exercised that.

>>96042922
I feel the same, from a very weird dark and Grim-like setting to average dnd setting. The goat men specially.

>>96047458
It's just deranged osr grogs getting mad about literally any changes whatsoever. This is the COMPLETE changelog of everything they changed to "uncensor" the books. Now, maybe you think that it's better this way, but it's insane that they literally made modified PDFs and complain every time the game's brought up about a grand total of one page worth of material.

>>96048733
It's just a crazy step because it feels so unnecessary that he had to censor it. It's like people aren't even getting the product that originally got them to back the KS.

What is it?
Regardless, no.
My friends won't play anything I try to get them to and I've brought up probably 50 systems and game ideas.

>>96049821
you need new friends

>>96047458
Zines and blogposts were edgier or gritter, one of the creators left due to cancelling, the KS version is a lot more twee and genpop 'nerd' friendly.
You can go find the old Wormskin zines and compare. Its a different vibe.

>>96049715
Because they didn't, it wasn't whismy they wanted, was the fucked up orginal feeling of the Grim fairy tales.

>>96049715
Because they didn't, it wasn't whismy they wanted, was the fucked up orginal feeling of the Grim fairy tales. They have none of the grit, of the grimmy and almost too dark undertones it all had. You paid for Berserk and Made in Abyss and got a Generic isekai like "I got teletransported to the Goatmen kingdom but I'm a cat" vibe.

>>96042476 (OP)
the group I'm part of has been playing it for a bit and enjoying it. the setting is well fleshed out and interested and the rules... well, it's still a B/X clone so ymmv. it's not groundbreaking or anything but that's a good thing.
>>96046688
it was rewritten as a system unto itself to decouple itself from WotC because of the OGL scare but it's still pretty much identical to OSE with the NG's Carcass Crawler optional rules checked by default, ascending armor class and more exploration/survival related rules
>>96049707
>MUH GOAT MEN THAT RAPE THEIR MAGICALLY DRUGGED HUMAN SLAVES THAT ARE THEN USED TO RAPE OTHER HUMANS CAPTURED FOR SLAVERY BEFORE BEING DRUGGED AND RAPED AND THAT GIVE BIRTH TO THE GOAT HUMAN RAPE BABIES AND THEY'RE ALL TWISTED AND DEFORMED RAPE BABY MONSTROSITIES

>>96049707
To be fair, them renaming the minstrel to bard because Americans think minstrels are people wearing blackface is a prime example of American cultural imperialism imposing itself on other cultures. The goat rape I can understand getting rid of but the minstrel thing is such a prime example of culturally ignorant and uneducated Americans imposing their will on others.

>>96052977
The strong do as they like, and the weak suffer what they must.

>>96042476 (OP)
Wait, this have not been launched yet?

Shiny and polished, zero integrity product. Buy now!

>>96052935
But the point of the goatmen is to be a kind of monstrous incarnation of the aristocracy, right, even down to the level of local rulers of shires? So yes the fucked up inbreeding and relentless insecurity complex and strung-out use of literal live humans as cattle IS important to achieve that, and doing that IS better and more interesting than "these are some goatmen".

>>96052977
Yeah as soon as I read that I just thought fuck America. It gets even dumber when bard is really a misused Irish cultural term.

>>96054755
Dolmenwood is a gigantic hexcrawl with hundreds of pages and you're crying about two lines of lore. It doesn't matter if you think it's better or worse, it's actually deranged to not engage with the overwhelming majority of the material to screech "they changed it, now it sucks."

>>96054755
Probs an usanians, they have to get they cutie cuter profanity (wich only involves lots of saying fuck or making fun of christians, a holler for them in the last 60 years, but don't you dare make fun of some one else) , how they get they panties in a bunch and have to censor whole words like is voldemort is peak comedy, they even say than fuck is the f-bomb, a mild "profanity".
You can have a weird euro-style setting if you are getting american moneys, they will strip it of all the fun stuff.

>>96055393
Changing the whole vibe of the setting does matter, the hell you are talking about. Get your meds schizo.

>>96055473
If the whole vibe of the setting was contained in two pages of lore, it sounds like a shit setting.

>>96055766
Well, it become one yeah, its what we are saying.

>>96054163
physical books aren't out yet. backers have obviously had it for awhile and it's for sale on DTRPG and FGU

>>96055766
It's impressive how many people seem unable to get into a setting if there isn't systemic rape going on everywhere.

Honestly I don't see the problem people have with it. They can just make Atanuwe and the Crookhorns (corrupted goatmen) rapey if they care so much about that. I do agree that Minstrel is a way cooler term than Bard and changing it was silly, but the outrage over it feels very stupid. Who gives a shit. It's a single word.

>>96055868
>Well, it become one yeah, its what we are saying.
You are saying that all the changes contained within this >>96049707 was enough to turn a good setting bad. This is because you are a retarded ape.

>>96055944
>>96055969

Are you being obtuse on purpose or are you just american? THEY CHANGED THE WHOLE VIBE OF THE SETTING, from a creepy, weird and dangerous one to a sanitized version, the goats are just one of the ways it has changed, they self censored so much is not the same setting it was in wormskins.

>>96055981
And "Dolmenwood Uncensored" fixed this?

>>96056015
NO? I don't have anything to do with the other anon, we are more than one than said Dolmenwood has been shat on.

>CONSOOME defence force in full force ITT
'Why do you care so much about the changes' - For the same reasons you care about us wanting it changed back, but with infinitely more justification, you chinless, mewling iconoclasts.

Every world needs its antagonists and those antagonists have to be able to do Bad Things (tm), fuck, the Evil Queen in Snow White was more hardcore than the witches in Nu-Dolmenwood.

Dolmenwood was sold as a dark fairytale, and you know what happens in fairytales? Some fucked up shit let me tell you.
You never hear a small child complaining about a woman being burned alive in her own oven, or planning cannibalism, in Hansel & Gretel do you? Because even children can understand that evil people exist and they do fucked up shit.
Why is it that it's fine for der kinder, but apparently adults can't handle the same? Everything must be bland and grey and having Wickedness, capital W important, represented in anything isn't allowed because morality is subjective and everyone is the hero of their own story and dear god just typing it is making my soul yearn for violence.

Dolmenwood was doing something cool and a bit unique and you, fuckers that you are, have demanded all the edges be sanded down for the sake of your will to power, in all its faux softness and unending fragility.
You creatures with wallpaper paste instead of blood.

>Oooh, he's edgy, he said he wants edge, edgy-edgy boi, tell us all about Stonecold Steeldark the Edgeho-
Kvetch about edge until you die of collapsed lungs for all I care.
But riddle me this; what do you call a thing that has no edge to it?
Dull and pointless

>>96055393
>make a negative and worse change for no reason
>NOOOOO you can't decide not to engage with the product because they show a clear downward trend!
They made art and then for some reason changed parts of the art to slop. That's incredibly weird.

>>96055944
They should have gone with jongleur. No offensive association to be made by Americans, but still keeps the medieval vibe and meaning. And actually specifically means a itinerant minstrel, so fits a PC even better as a descriptor than minstrel.

>>96057022
>'Why do you care so much about the changes' - For the same reasons you care about us wanting it changed back, but with infinitely more justification, you chinless, mewling iconoclasts.
Huh? The reason I care about your whining is that every single time this game comes up, the ONLY thing that ANYONE talks about is that it's different from pre-release materials. Holy shit, a paragraph of description about this baron changed a single line - and yes, this unironically gets tons of you subhuman fucks bitching about it.

Can it be judged as the product it actually is, rather than the product you wish it was instead? No, of course not, you have to come into every thread to say, "You know, it's not the same as the product that I wanted to have instead." Yeah, no shit.

>>96055944
I mean we should throw out that we're talking exclusively about rape, because we're not. The goatmen are rapists, but that's not the only part that was excised: so too was the shallow genepool producing inbred monsters and the deep insecuriy complex. And the witches are not about rape, they just explicitly have an otherworldly sexuality: they are sexual with the gods they worship and celibate to the mundane world.

Like I'm gonna level with you anon, I get there are a lot of antisex freaks online today and especially in the TTRPG community where there is an obsession with claiming things are problematic as a means of self-worship, but I cannot off the top of my head recall any kind of folk horror story that didn't have at least an implicative sexual element. Sex is a part of the genre.

>>96057153
IDK what to tell you. If someone took a shit on the Mona Lisa, I think people would mostly talk about the shit rather than the parts of the painting they could still see underneath it.

>>96057193
Yep, that's exactly what happened. They changed the title of a class from "Minstrel" to "Bard" and then the entire 464 page book with detailed material for every single hex became completely unreadable. It definitely isn't you being a whiny bitchboy.

>>96057153
Liar.
There are significant differences in art direction from the zone, the weird that befell drigbolton and the disneywood product.
If those aren't notable enough to you there's no reason to care about any of the concerns you have about tone or representation, as it doesn't matter after all right?

>>96057217
The fact you have to trivialise it down to the least significant change (which is still a dumb change even if nothing concrete is lost in it) in replying to this says it all really.

>>96057022
>For the same reasons you care about us wanting it changed back
I think you're confused anon. Most people don't care about the changes one way or another because they're a tiny footnote that has no impact on the game or the setting.
>But riddle me this; what do you call a thing that has no edge to it?
>Dull and pointless
a iron bar is just as effective as caving in a persons head without a sharp edge. fun things are fun, the ultimate tone is set by you as the GM and not the words on a page as has been the case with RPGs from day 1.

>>96057217
Yeah see shit like this. Everyone can see you lie.
>They only changed one thing
>Oh wait and this thing
>And this one but none of that's important unless your a bad person
It's an oft repeated enough song and dance everyone is sick of it.

>>96057022
You know what, I hate how you say it, but you are right, they eliminated teh wickedness, the meaness, the dastardly whismical evilness of the few, the Witches of dolmenwood comit the worse sin you can do in rpg, and its being DULL.

>>96057248
Yes we know you can only deal.in blunt dull things for beating people you dislike.
Sort of like a cop or a fascist.

>>96057153
>It's only a line chud.
>Well and that one, but thats minimal.
>And an entire race was changed totally, but its a good thing.
It's all so tiresome.

>>96057247
You're right, I should focus on the really important changes:
- They're called Breggles instead of Goatmen
- The one half-Breggle guy no longer has a race complex about being half-Breggle
- Lord Malbleat is no longer racist to his half-goat offspring

>>96057263
>Yeah see shit like this. Everyone can see you lie.
>>96057310
>It's all so tiresome.
Everyone can see you whine about petty bullshit. You guys LITERALLY created a document to "fix" the campaign book, and outlined the changelog here: >>96049707

There's like five pages of material difference there. This is why I say you're petty whiny bitchboys. Because you are. I joke and exaggerate because you turn every single discussion of Dolmenwood into these vague bitches because you've spent so long in /osrg/ circlejerking about how it's different that you've never engaged with any of the actual material on its own merits.

>>96057327
How would you disingenuously summarise the witch changes?

>>96057327
I didn't create shit schizo, I was a fan or Wormskins and I dislike all the changes of tone of the entire setting, they extriped what made the setting awesome and made a pastiche of dull and lame regurgitated american slop than its a 6/10, okay, serviceable, but boring. Any of the wormskin issues makes your mind fly a lot more than the entire Dolmenwood campaign setting tm, wich is a friggin product.
TAKE YOUR FUCKING MEDs.

>>96057153
No you duplicitous, Californian motherfucker.
I judge it not by the product I wanted it to be, but by the product it WAS.
Shadowdark is a product where I go 'Man, I wish it did something more'
Dolmenwood is a product that did do something more, then cow-towed to your inane faggotry and took away what made it good.
The first is a disappointment, the second is damnable.

>inb4 some bullshit excuse about how it's actually reasonable because [Insert transparent bullshit here]
You're glad it happened because you think it 'owns the chuds', because you're retarded and don't care if things are good or not as long as they're also bad for those you hate.
YOU could have had a better product.
And you choose not to because it'd mean 'those fuckers over there' do as well.
Because you're fucking retarded.

>>96057349
I don't need to summarize them myself, you guys already did:
>Restored the original relationship between Witch and Wood-God, as well as the prohibition on sexual contact except on the night of the summer solstice. Much omitted could not be restored, as it would take multiple pages. Consult Wormskin.

You had to do this, without it the game sucks, it's all that's worth talking about for an entire giant hexcrawl. Are the game mechanics any good? Random encounters? Towns? Are the hexes' interesting features actually interesting? All that matters is they changed something from Wormskin, now it sucks. Wormskin was basically the word of Christ, the most perfect RPG material ever written down, and they smeared shit across the Mona Lisa when they changed this "the" to an "a".

>>96057375
I live in Texas, faggot. I never read Wormskin, I read the Dolmenwood book because it has a giant hexcrawl with lots of material, and I judge it on the basis of the book that it is. Many works go through changes as they transition through editing, for a wide variety of reasons, but because you can tie it into kulturkampf bullshit it's all you can talk about. You choose to seethe about imaginary Californians who hate you because that's all you want to do, you don't want to play fucking RPGs, nobody came into your home and stole your copies of Wormskin and deleted them off your computer.

>>96057402
>I never read Wormskin
lmao

>>96057402
Why do you care so much, being a lame save a bitch for this shit.

>>96057402
>Never read Wormskin.
Oh wow, so you are a tourist apart of a faggot, what a surprise...

>>96057412
>>96057433
Yes, I'm in a thread about Dolmenwood, not Wormskin, because I read Dolmenwood, not Wormskin, and would like to discuss Dolmenwood, not Wormskin. Duh. Are you shocked when people in 5eg don't want to talk about 3.5e and didn't read it?

>>96057413
Why do you care so much? Bitch? I fucking started reading Dolmenwood to use its material in my campaign, thought, "Oh, I wonder if there's any interesting discussion on /tg/, maybe somebody encountered some problems with some of the material, maybe there's some class that has a wacky option, or a spell that's busted, or a monster that's way stronger than the designer thinks," and so I went to search the archives, and all I saw was you people constantly bitching, for months and months, making fucking blog posts and rewritten versions of the book.

>>96057402
>I live in Texas
Yeah and you shame your ancestors by being a fucking Californian at heart despite this.

>I never read Wormskin
So you've got exactly nothing to contribute to the conversation because you have no context on it?
>Yeah I don't know why everyone is so het up about this 'Library of Alexandria' thing burning down, it was just some scrolls, I'd never been there, sounds pretty gay to me.
More importantly if this isn't important, why do you care enough to cram your beak in despite apparently having zero skin in the game or interest?
At least I'm irritated about something being, in my eyes, damaged.
You're irritated about what, me being irritated about things?

>Many works go through changes as they transition
I'm not even going to make the joke, everyone in this thread, insert your own punchline here.

>>96057453
>So you've got exactly nothing to contribute to the conversation because you have no context on it?
The conversation is about Dolmenwood. You may look up at the OP, and find mentioned "Dolmenwood." Not Wormskin. This isn't a discussion about Wormskin. If somebody made a thread about Wormskin I would understand you talking about Wormskin and wanting people to have read Wormskin, but this isn't a thread about Wormskin.

>>96057439
Cry more bitch boy, seems the only f-word you know. And of course we dislike it, as you haven't even read the Source of those books, is like you have only seen the Rings of Power series and say you love the Lord of the Rings, you only got an echo of an echo of a better source.

>>96057463
>The conversation is about the patient post-lobotomy, not who they were pre-lobotomy
Christ, that's the argument you're going with.
'Hey I know they painted a dick Swastika on the Mona Lisa, but could you stop trying to talk about the Mona Lisa while I'm trying to talk about Da Vinci's classical work 'Woman with a dick swastika tattoo on her forehead'

Why are you such a weak person anon?
What makes someone like you?
How do they let that happen in Texas?

Wait, the one defeding this Dolmenwood hasn't even read Wormskin? HAHAHAHAHHA

>>96057491
>Cry more
Projection. Anyone can go to the archives and search for Dolmenwood and see that you people have been crying for months about this.

>>96057520
Bro, you identify so strongly with a fucking zine for B/X that you consider someone a "weak person" for not giving a fuck that they changed it when they turned it into a hexcrawl, and compare it to the Mona Lisa and a lobotomy patient. I'm the "weak person"? Please.

>>96057575
Sure bitch boy, you have showed us very clearly what you are, a frigin slop eater.

>>96057575
>You identify so strongly with a fucking zine for B/X that you consider someone a weak person for-
I consider you a weak person because of your lack of a chin and principles in that order.
The fact you can't even identify a principle when its undertaken in front of you and have to resort to 'Oh it's only small changes, it's only little things, I don't care, no one should care' is how I identified you as such.
Shit, it could be Thirsty Sword Lesbians for all I care, the mutilation of a vision to instead create a product or appease the mob is iconoclism regardless of the piece being destroyed for those heckin' updoots on reddit.
That you can hear 'Something unique was broken apart and the pieces reused to make something bitch-ass generic' and not be bothered is inherently contemptible.
But you don't and will never understand this, so go talk to someone more on your level, like Disney Star Wars fans.

You soft, oversocialized faggot.

Anyone knows what happened with the OG writer/ideas guy?

>>96057570
I'm not even defending Dolmenwood. I prepped some material from it but haven't had the opportunity to run it yet. I would love criticism of Dolmenwood that wasn't 1,000 variations on "it's different from Wormskin."

No point expecting more, though, it's all OSR types are capable of, though. It's literally a form of engagement with the hobby that amounts to "they changed it now they sucked" cranked up to 11.

>>96057635
>That you can hear 'Something unique was broken apart and the pieces reused to make something bitch-ass generic' and not be bothered is inherently contemptible.
This would be a good criticism if Dolmenwood was generic, but having read only Dolmenwood, it's clearly not generic (I mean, beyond the extent to which all fantasy-themed D&D-based games are).

So the problem is it's different from Wormskin. You schizo-posting about how it was done because Teh Reddit Mob FORCED the devs to change it. They broke into Gavin Norman's home and held him at gunpoint until he deleted the part where the goatmen raped people.

>>96057661
>This would be a good criticism if Dolmenwood was generic, but having read only Dolmenwood, it's clearly not generic (I mean, beyond the extent to which all fantasy-themed D&D-based games are).
Alright, now we're getting somewhere. Let's see if we can leverage open that tiny little brain pan of yours and open you up to the possibility of you not just being wrong but fucking retarded.

Dolmenwood, by your own words, is better for being unique apart from all those little D&Disms that are in there, right?
What if it was more unique and less D&Disms? Would that be better again?
Yes? Good.
Now take those two points, build an extrapolation line and fuck off up it until you reach the natural conclusion.
>B-b-but it good
Yeah and it could've been great only to drill through its own kneecaps after taking everyone's dime.
But keep being more bothered about me being annoyed than the situation itself. Retard.

It's a shame because it was one of those setting than actually made me feel the vibes of Folk/old fairy tales like no other. Being a fan of Beyond the Wall is was going to use it, being a fan of Wormskin.
So I started reading this, after reading it would be released phisically and... Just dozed off and started reading other stuff. Didn't grip me at all, all the weird stuff I wanted to read, just wasn't there.
Anyone can explain to me, why that massive change between what it was and... This? I'm just glad I didn't pledge to it.

>>96057701
>Dolmenwood, by your own words, is better for being unique apart from all those little D&Disms that are in there, right?
Mostly, it's better by having a large amount of content. I would never have picked it up if it didn't have a massive hexcrawl.

>What if it was more unique and less D&Disms? Would that be better again?
None of the changes are the introduction of more D&Disms, though, except I guess technically the name "Bard" for a class, but I was told this was an unfair SJW parody insult to mention complaints about.

I don't think having mixed race children treated extremely poorly by both races is particularly unique, or goatmen doing rape and slavery. Frankly, "evil rapist slaving goatmen" is a VERY generic trope. So that leaves, what, that the Witch and the Wood-God not fucking any more?

>>96057771
>More content means better content
Know when I said you have wallpaper paste instead of blood?
Now everyone who reads your posts can understand and appreciate exactly what I meant.

There is no need to address your other points, simply because they are now stuck coming from you.

>>96057800
I wanted a hexcrawl with lots of hexes keyed with things that amounted to more than "13 treants in their lair." I got a hexcrawl with lots of hexes keyed with things that amount to more than "13 treants in their lair." This is because I wanted lots of material for a hexcrawl, above what I could produce in a reasonable amount of time on my own.

I'm glad you found something to pattern match my post to so you could dismiss it, though. Saves me the trouble of continuing to try to talk to you.

>>96057869
>Try to talk to you
No, you tried to talk at me and the first thing you had to say was 'Shut up your whining, stop caring about things I don't care about and let me consume this wholesome and warm bucket of shit that has been placed before me without having to be around people who are talking negatively'
And to that I say, no, I'm not going to stop pointing out that you're eating a bucket of shit and yes, you can live with it.

>>96057402
>I never read Wormskin
99% of the material from WS and the DW kickstarter is the same, there's just more of it and it's not formatted as a zine

>No, I've never read it, but I'm going to get mad at you for being upset over them taking away everything that made it good!
Wew lad.

Is the lore of this setting vaguely similar to Symbaroum?

I was excited about it. Fucking three years ago. It's been too long, I'm not sure if I'll care much once I receive the books. I'm happy playing Shadowdark for my fantasy fix nowadays.

>>96058988
Pretty sure I remember hearing about people on the Shadowdark dicksword have been working on a DW conversion

>>96059047
I see. Might be cool. I am going to run West Marches which is out soon, and the hexcrawl material from Dolmenwood is no doubt going to be very useful, or at least provide inspiration. It won't be completely wasted, but I really should stop supporting fucking Kickstarters. Even if they're successful it just takes too fucking long.

>>96059077
>West Marches
I meant Western Reaches. I am tired and retarded.

>>96052977
i'm not even sure whether it's because black people in America are hyper-reactionary to any perceived mention of the less savory parts of race relations history, or if it's because white liberals pretend to be vociferously offended on their behalf so they can play white savior.

>>96059103
Latter every time. Not to shit on blacks but is there a single person under Hex 795f45 that even knows Dolmenwood exists?
There has to be at least one Blanon out there, let's see if the odds are in my favour this time

>>96055393
it's called 'voting with your wallet', retard, and literally anyone with a brain does it. i stopped giving money to the Assassin's Creed series of video games after they killed off the original MC, which had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with storytelling integrity, and I stopped watching the television show My Name Is Earl when they watered down the characters to make them mpre palatable to normies.

If an IP does something you don't like, drop them and give your money to people that do. It's about the only real power left to the individual.

I agree that 'muh goatrape' is an odd hill to die on, but it definitely adds a flavor to the setting.

>it's a shit flavor
people can suck shit if they want to, the entire month of June is about that right.

>>96059158
i've noticed that there's a tremendous amount of sensitivity in blacks about language like that. i have a black co-worker in his 60s, and we were talking about Bruce Lee movies over lunch one day. he looked at me like i slapped his mother when i pronounced the 'kun' in jeet-kun-do like you would in 'anon-kun', but because he heard it as 'coon' he got a little upset. we smoothed it over, no big deal, and he didn't get all assblasted like your average honky culture warrior would have. but i am mindful enough to pronounce it like the 'kun' in 'kung-fu' whenever it comes up anymore. which happens a fair bit, he likes kung-fu movies. but i can at least get it from him, he grew up in the 50s and 60s when shit was still relatively hairy. blacks today by and large only seem to use it as leverage against the culture warrior honkies to get more clout or resources, but they're cool when they know that you don't fold to that shit. i think a lot of black people take it as meaning you're not racist when you don't kowtow to the browbeating. if you aren't racist, why cower and grovel when you get called one, seems to be the logic.

there were even a couple black nerds who played D&D and MtG when i was in a government job training program, but only two of them stuck with it.

>>96059158
I never met a black until 10 or so years ago, and they are volatile (one of the ones I had a work relationship, later he had to go to senegal because his wife and even later I learned he was in prision because he beated her so hard he ended in jail, in friging senegal).
So it wouldn't surprise me they just can't take it, never met males than overeacted to anything like them.

>>96059415
What a schizofrenic world do you live, wow. They get they panties in a bunch for that?

>>96055393
>you're crying about two lines of lore
That's how it always starts with you cunts.
>"It's just a few lines of lore in an entire book, it's not a big deal!"
>"It's just a few pages in an entire book, it's not a big deal!
>"It's just one chapter in an entire book, it's not a big deal!"
>"It's just one book in an entire product line, it's not a big deal!"
>"It's just one product among so many others, it's not a big deal!"
The slippery slope was never a fallacy.

>>96062253
Good people will try to meet you half way because they think reasonable compromise is possible.
Some people will take advantage of that by walking backwards every time the other person tries to do so.
We call these people cunts.

>>96062140
i mean, anon, all i got out of the guy was a 'what you said?' and a stinkeye. it's not like he flew off the handle and threatened to report me for racism or anything. it was just quite obvious that he was sensitive to something that even sounded similar to the word, based on his reaction and facial expressions. he got over it in minutes, and we still get along great. but you could tell that he had to get past it.

but yeah, i can absolutely see some other nigga crashing the fuck out entirely.

>>96066007
Dunno, don't you see it wierd you even have to thing all that? Not even calling faggots maricon/putoin my country I would expect to get a sliver of that.