>Used to think people who read wikis for lore on table top games like Warhammer or other IPs were bad
>Then there were people who got their lore on youtube videos slightly more annoying but how bad can it
>People now get their lore through tiktok videos

>>96064714 (OP)
Next step is people who don't even get their lore at all. Just make shit up and refuse to listen to anyone else.

>>96064822
Making shit up is bad, but you don't need lore to play the game.

>>96065096
I only ever use lore as a way to stop That Guys from rolling up with their "lost lost son of [insert important lore character] who's half-angel and half-werewolf, has fifty girlfriends and knows the ancient art of swordmastery from nippon" and thinking they can argue their way into making me accept it.

That and my original tactic of telling them "Sure, that can be their backstory, but only if they really made it all the hell up and are just normal people from the countryside looking for mercenary work" normally didn't go over well.

>>96064714 (OP)
Wikis are infinitely above videos in terms of information acquisition because it’s self-guided. Someone who has picked up an IP’s lore from wiki-crawling will have parts that they’re obviously more interested in and will know more about those things, but video-droolers will only be aware of what a specific “content creator” has decided would drive engagement.

Reject not the wiki-crawler, for their knowledge will be merely incomplete at worst. But the video-watcher will believe that the interpretations and theories of their chosen poison are canon.

At this point we should really just look down on anyone who knows warhammer lore that isn't from a meme.

>he doesn't "don't recommend" every GW focused channel
your loss

>>96065253
I think this affecting a lot of other IPs badly especially on the /tg/ side. Warhammer was the catalyst for it

>>96065253
The "Don't Recommend" feature keeps other people from seeing the video?

>>96064822
doesnt this board do this exact thing when its come to last 8 years of modern 40k lore?

>>96064714 (OP)
>People now get their lore through tiktok videos
>People

>>96065763
This board can’t agree on anything anymore

>>96065855
anymore?

>>96065721
their shit takes a hit from the algo and is less likely to be recommended to others whose user profile resembles yours
but you also have to curate your viewed videos. if you watch a bunch of unrelated shit and 'don't recc' GW videos, it won't hit as hard as if you watch a bunch of miniatures/wargame/TTRPG related content and hit 'em with the don't recommend.

>>96064714 (OP)
>Used to think people who read wikis for lore on table top games like Warhammer or other IPs were bad
They're still bad
>Then there were people who got their lore on youtube videos slightly more annoying but how bad can it
Also bad
>>People now get their lore through tiktok videos
Also bad

This isn't some kind of obsessive book series, it's a background setting you're supposed to twist and turn for your little miniature soldiers. Loretard nogamers get the bullet. Also, Fantasy is way better.

>>96065940
I think old /tg/ would have made their own 40k after the outrage of 8th edition/current 40k but now its impossible

>>96065958
Fantasy is no better since it has plenty of youtube short and lore videos for it. If anything Age of Sigmar content is not lucrative whatsoever on social media

>>96065958
Fantasy is not free from this if ANYTHING it has more wikireaders/lore video fans than 40k does

>>96064822
>Next step is people who don't even get their lore at all. Just make shit up and refuse to listen to anyone else.
Posters here already do this.

the real problem are youtubers that just read wikis and never played any games, read any books etc

>>96064714 (OP)
Before TikTok, zoomers just read memes and thought they were actual lore, then went around doing "for da emperor" and refused to explore any other faction's POV while pretending they were a lore expert.

>>96064714 (OP)
>calling it lore
>not fluff
Z O O M E R
wikis have always been fine because you have access to the sources. maybe faggots are used to 1d4chan and get their nuts in a twist about it but, sarna is exceptional for tracking down every bit character without having to waddle through 405 technical readouts and splatbooks over 50 years.

Lexanium likewise is a lot fucking easier to learn about the weapon systems of the imperuim then digging through 50 years of splatbooks.
then you can take those citations and go to the books.
it's the purpose of the wiki.

>>96066021
This. Old /tg/ would be able to make something like Angry Marines and remain tongue in cheek about it. Nu-/tg/ would just bitch at each other for deviating from canon and having fun wrong.

>>96067661
>then you can take those citations and go to the books.
This. Wikis are there to help you focus the things you read or look for.

>>96069763
The battle bible project is a thing, the post everynow and then

>>96064822
>>96065096
why is this a bad thing? 40k's lore is retarded. The body of literature written to describe the setting is just album cover art for the games.

>>96064714 (OP)
YouTube in 2025 is basically the same slop as ticktock these days, there is no difference in quality any longer.

>>96064822
That requires creativity though, something the average tiktok viewer lacks

>>96067661
NYOOOOOOOO
HE DIDN'T USE MY BING BING WAHOO WORD
NOT MY HECKIN FLUFFERINO
THIS ISN'T WHOLESOME CHUNGUS AT ALLLLLLL

>>96070968
You seem upset, anon

>>96064714 (OP)
>everything older fans hate about the newer lore comes from the novels
>in a neverending feedback loop where the novels' role in shaping people's perception of the hobby are larger than the hobby itself
>whose consequences are blamed on anything except the novels at every turn
>but you have to read them, anon, you have to CONSOOM

>>96065225
/Thread

honestly, having to deal with people who only get their lore from youtubers/tiktok was the final straw for me.
now in my TTRPG games I refuse to use 'established' settings, relying purely on my own homebrew setting that I have been slowly working on more and more for the last 4 or so years.

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>>96072104
Meant for
>>96067661

>>96064822
>>96070364
So like Trench Crusade? No canon just make whatever you want and it just as valid as if the creator said it.

>>96070364
>why is spreading misinformation a bad thing?
Fucking numbskull.

>>96065225
They're like rungs on a latter. I'm not going to pretend that my first exposure to any big TTRPG's lore wasn't through a wiki when I was 16. But eventually I wanted to know more and went to the books. The loretuber fag is going to go to the wiki and then the books. The tiktokers are going to the videos and then the books. We are creating Plato's cave but then digging deeper. This is true of all facets of culture and it won't stop until we take action against the one's pushing it, and I don't mean the content shill.