Has any cyberpunk setting included aesthetics outside of western or east Asian? I am very curious to see how high-tech middle eastern/african/latin american core would look

>>96070031 (OP)
shadowrun brazil is run by a mommy state leftist dragon

>>96070031 (OP)
Stop posting slop faggot.

>>96070077
fuck off back to rddt

>>96070031 (OP)
Shadowrun's Mexico has gone all-in on Aztec bullshit.

There was that Native American cyberpunk game, which I have to assume tries this sort of shit.

>>96070031 (OP)
Infinity the Game has Haqqislam, a revised Islam putting medicine and biomedical advances as their priority. A series is planned, looking for syndication as far as I heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIowQMyOmtk

>>96070031 (OP)
>high-tech middle eastern/african/latin american core would look
>high-tech Africa
>Africa
>tech
Hahahaha ohh ok silly billy

Watch elisium, see White space rich people run factories and slum slave laborers....and its better than if they didnt

>>96070031 (OP)
Cyberpunk 2020 ga a supplement called "Whren Gravity Fails" based on the novels.

>>96070031 (OP)
Shadowrun. One of the major world powers is Mexico after it got taken over by death cultists larping as a megacorporation larping as Aztecs.

>>96070382

>>96070387

>>96070031 (OP)
Is middle-east and india (I've got a fair bit of india) too asian?

Also, while the aesthetic doesn't come up a ton (being a book), check out When Gravity Fails - explores quite a few unusual angles, and quite cyberpunk even though actual computers don't turn up much

>>96070070
I hear mommy dragon and I want to know more.

>>96070031 (OP)

>>96070083
You have a containment thread for your slop, use it.

>>96070287
WGF is probably infinitely more playable as a game than the novel is readable.

>>96070031 (OP)
>I am very curious to see how high-tech middle eastern/african/latin american core would look
I am too, but... fuck it I'll be brutally honest:
Tabletop roleplaying games are a predominately WHITE PERSON hobby.
I don't say that with any kind of positive or negative connotation. I am well aware of the heated racial climate we exist in in 2025. But it is merely an observation.
That said, white people are mainly interested in cultures that line up with their own personal experiences and histories.
So that is why you won't see much Cyberpunk fiction written with much African or Latin flavor to it (MAYBE some Eastern flavor to it if we're talking Slavic cultures).
My own lived experience with this is through Dungeons and Dragons. Most players are all on-board with some Tolkien-derived setting for the adventures to take place it, but the moment I try to get any players involved in a more African or Latin/Carribean inspired world, the interest dries up. Pic related (it was written by white people).
I'm not judging here, just an observation.
All that said, here is an honest question to all you white folk (which is probably the majority of you):
Most D&D and 'fantasy' worlds are derived from and absolutely saturated from Norse mythology. Yet not much of it is derived from SLAVIC mythology.
As a brown person, this befuddles me because it's like... you're all white, right? In skin color, at least.

>>96071091
Do all browns care about each other's cultures? I suspect not. People prefer what is familiar.

Western fantasy incorporates Norse mythology because Western fantasy is predominantly Anglo, and Anglos have cultural, linguistic, and genetic influence from the Norse. We also take influence from Greek mythology because a classical education including both Greek and Latin was the norm in Western education for centuries. On the other hand, Slavic mythology is approximately as familiar to me as Chinese mythology, which is to say, not at all. I'm not against learning about it, but I can't get excited about roleplaying in such a setting because I don't even know what there is to get excited about.

>>96071091
>Yet not much of it is derived from SLAVIC mythology.
Slavic mythology is pretty heavily influenced by Norse/Germanic myth because of historical reasons though

>>96070484
Middle east is sought out by the OP

>>96070031 (OP)
Brigador is Cyberpunk Brazil.

>>96071091
I'm chief and feather Indian.

Like how there's a difference between Chiriciuah and the Pueblo there's a difference between Slavs and Norse. You're probably also American so you don't know this: American White Culture is actually racist towards white people too. It's stripped them of their cultural trappings, languages, and foods and forced them to integrate and adopt a homogeneous consumerist culture.
It's why a Gonzalez can become White now, he can shed his culture, become an ICE agent, lose the accent, and just integrate and, generally, be accepted. The racism against outgroups isn't really based on skin color but culture.
ALSO, I owned Nyambe - D20 sucks, the book sucks, it kind of just homogenizes African culture without any real changes to make it more interesting (like what a lot of settings do with Norse and Slavic myth). Atlas Games' ONE and only good publication was Northern Crown and that's because it focused more on human conflicts.

Also >black monkey elves
You can't make that shit up, I was like 12 and was dying laughing when I saw them.

>>96070031 (OP)
River of Gods and Cyberabad Days by Ian McDonald.

>>96071091
It's an awareness thing primarily. There was not a tremendous amount of slavic immigration to the US compared to other European ethnic groups, with the exception of from Poland. Norse mythology is, for all intents and purposes, grandfathered in to English culture as a result of Danish rule and influence prior to the Norman conquest. There isn't a touchstone associated with slavic culture the same way, for example, Beowulf is. At best people might know who Chernobog is from playing Kingdom Hearts or reading American Gods, but that's about the extent of it.

It's a shame because slavic mythology is pretty rad, but virtually nobody knows anything about it unless they're essentially an amateur folklorist.

>>96070031 (OP)
>Has any cyberpunk setting included aesthetics outside of western or east Asian?
Jamaicans in Space in Neuromancer, remember?

>>96071091
I'd be more likely to be interested in playing a white colonist or explorer interacting with almost literally any other culture on earth, because I'm an Anglo and I really don't care about Slavic culture that much.

Like I've played Call of Cthulhu games where I'm a pilot mucking about in Peru, and I've played Nights Black Agents prequels where I'm a british officer mucking about in Anatolia around the Crimean war, but I almost can't think of a single game where I'd actually need to engage with Slavic mythology.

Also I'd say that even the standard fantasy template isn't really satured in Norse Mythology particularly, it's just kind of soaked in the sort of Western European/American overculture fantasy mythology, It's certainly not reminiscent of actual English or French mythology, since those are all heavily built on Christianity, and those influences have largely been pruned out of DnD besides the existence of Paladins.

>>96076679
That's a big American thing, because maintaining the racial hierarchy comes before anything else, and American culture dominates the world's social conscious.
Irish, Spanish, Italians were brought in to 'whiteness' to eliminate their organized crime syndicates in the 30s and 40s. 'Hispanics' also got the benefit of this, until too many metizos, with their indigenous heritage, became too high in population to be considered 'white'.
There is a quiet psychosis at play.

>>96070180
Elysium is a terrible example, scarcity still being a thing in a world where even poor countries can easily build spaceships and cheaply reach space is peak retardation.

In truth, any poor country in that movie would just go mine asteroids to build their own space stations while completely ignoring Elysium. You cannot have cheap access to space and scarcity in the same universe, just ten of the largest asteroids in the solar system would provide ALL of Earth material resource needs for billions of years. With that kind of cheap space travel technology, countries like Russia and China would just tell Elysium to go fuck itself, they don't need their permission to build thousands of their own space stations and leave earth behind completely.

>>96071091

Slavs themselves generally don't care about Slavic mythology, and outside of D&D/Warhammer Fantasy have more of an affinity for post-apocalyptic Fallout type stuff.

There also needs to be some kind of frame of reference when you're playing such an abstract hobby such as Tabletop RPGs. It's hard enough to imagine a shared world to play things (hence why kids playing pretend usually play something simple like cops and robbers, cowboys and indians, or they pretend to be the heroes of a shared TV show they all know). Try getting kids who all know about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and hyped about TMNT, to play something they've never heard of and have no frame of reference for.

Even TTRPGs that are ostensibly eastern mythology derived like Exalted ***really*** lay on giga westernised versions or anime-fied version of it rather than actually legitimately eastern culture inspired, and even if they don't, the people playing them usually haven't actually lived in eastern cultures and so they just play with modern western value systems backported into ostensibly medieval-ish settings.

That's honestly the much bigger break for me. Screw worrying about whether people can play Arabic/African inspired games. Can they even properly play a *medieval* styled game, and roleplay *medieval* mindsets/worldviews? They can't. I consistently see people backport modern views like evolution back into medievalish fantasy settings because they simply have no idea how to even begin to think in a different way.

>>96076530
Good point

>>96071091
Speaking as a very white person from the wet cluster of islands that once ruled a quarter of the globe, slavic myth gets almost no interest for a bunch of reasons, including what >>96071159 says.

Another part is the roman connection - one of the big cornerstones of white culture is "do you connect with rome/did the roman empire occupy you?" (usually with "and bring christianity to you") - and while obviously it's not true with germans and norse either, there's a lot more mixing. Slavs, where they interact with rome, interact with the eastern roman empire, which for a time also got denigrated a lot by western historians - so the general border of where "culture white people are interested in" peters out about where the mongol and muslim conquests reach up to - east and south of there "doesn't count" (with greece getting a pass for being the epicentre of Western Thought).

Bringing back to RPGs, the fallen empire element (especially in a sense of "and they built better than we can") is a huge part of classic D&D - it brings back the idea of medieval times with roman ruins (though kind of ignores cathedrals and such)

>>96070592
Unfortunately the dragon is male, and a turbo leftist.

>>96077331
>racial hierarchy
>American
You're not only wrong, but fucking stupid. ALL CULTURES DO THIS.
>Irish/Spanish/Italian
They were ALWAYS classified as White you drooling moron. The big hangup in America was the fact that they were Roman Catholic, not because of some racial classification.

>>96071159
Part of why Slavic stuff doesn't have as much cache is that it just wasn't recorded. History belongs to the people who remembered to write stuff down. We have the Prose Eddas, we have the Book of the Dead, we have the Odyssey, etc; we have almost nothing for Slavic paganism.

>>96071091
>>96071159
Part of why Slavic stuff doesn't have as much cache is that it just wasn't recorded. History belongs to the people who remembered to write stuff down. We have the Prose Eddas, we have the Book of the Dead, we have the Odyssey, etc; we have almost nothing for Slavic paganism.

>>96070031 (OP)
Brigador is a video game, but it does a solid job getting across Cyberpunk LatAm among other things.

>>96076679
>ALSO, I owned Nyambe - D20 sucks, the book sucks, it kind of just homogenizes African culture without any real changes to make it more interesting (like what a lot of settings do with Norse and Slavic myth).
??

Nyambe doesn't homogenize African culture, it literally has like ten different human culture groups as character options, including ones obviously inspired by the Dahomey (Nibomay), Dogon (Mbanta), Mbuti (Nghoi), etc. It has Nommo as space aliens. It has a bunch of others.

>>96078657
Being Catholic was part of it for sure, but the American cultural definition of whiteness has changed over the years, and you're being deliberately blind to how common anti-Irish and anti-Italian bigotry was among the British Americans, especially on the east coast and the deep south. You know who built the levees along the Mississippi river? It sure as fuck wasn't black slaves; it was the Irish, because they were thought to be more expendable and less valuable as laborers. Levee building was so dangerous and lethal that slaves were thought to be too expensive to risk on the work. The WASPs could recognize the fairness of an Irishman's skin, but they certainly didn't think the Irish were their equals, let alone the swarthy mustachioed Eye-talians. Whiteness was not a flat level playing field, it was its own hiearchy where the Anglo Saxons sat on top, with their cronies the Scots beneath them, followed by the Germans, (who were stereotyped as fat and stupid up into the 20's, just look at the Katzenjammer Kids), then Italians, Poles, and finally the Irish at the very bottom. The Irish had less cultural capitol than the blacks due to percieved unruliness and habitual alcoholism. It's reflected in political cartoons that depict them as drunken apes.

>>96070031 (OP)
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>>96081827
Cope

>>96078657
>Italian
I dont consider Italians to be white even now anon

>>96086556
'Eyyyyy! Wassa matta wit ya??

>>96078808
>The Irish had less cultural capitol than the blacks due to percieved unruliness and habitual alcoholism.
My, how times change. Now the Irish have more cultural capitol than the blacks in spite of their confirmed unruliness and habitual alcoholism.

>>96070031 (OP)
Judge Dredd has everywhere now.

>>96091217
That's because it's the best.