>racial bonus
Why do modern RPGs still do this? Isn't everyone equal?

>>96072004 (OP)
They make a begrudging concession because not including them would lose them money and not get them anything, since even amongst the most insane online circles it seems like they don't complain about it
Because if there was even the slightest hint of complaint from some jobless blue-hair about it they would have stopped years ago

>>96072004 (OP)
To incentivize trying to play as non-human races.

>>96072004 (OP)
It frustrates me that race is still the prevailing word to distinguish the different playable peoples in RPGs.
Not because I'm personally bothered by it, but because it's an endless argument starter with no real resolution.

All because some boomers from the 60s and 70s used a colloquially understood way of differentiating people rather than a more proper term for different beings.

>>96072004 (OP)
You are injured, and need a surgeon. Do you choose the jewish doctor, or the black doctor?

You need a mountain climbing companion. Do you choose a sherpa or a white guy from /out/?

>>96072004 (OP)
Elves and orcs aren't fucking real people anon, they're fantasy creatures. Black, whites, asians, whatever else humans there are out there are covered under the "human" racial category. Why can't people grasp this?

>>96072019
>>96072132

>>96072127
>Do you choose the jewish doctor, or the white female doctor?
Fixed, because despite what idiots believe, 'Affirmative Action' was a white female benefit. White men getting cucked by their own women, and have to blame anyone else besides their precious mommies for their failure.
This is why the Chinese are winning, they will backhand their own mothers.

>>96072004 (OP)
>racial bonus in D&D
"+2 STR"
>racial bonus in GURPS
"This character template for all white anglo-saxon characters has foot notes and references explaining why white bois can't dance."

>«You know (((they))) say that all Elfa are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Mail and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another elfa, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm an elf freak and I'm not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat me. Then you add Mare Bello Fiore to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down. See the 3 way at NoGamesMania in Orc Town, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because that queer of Mare Bello Fiore KNOWS he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try!
So Mail, you take your popful 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at NoGamesMania. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of winning at NoGamesMania. See Senorita Mail, the numbers don't lie, and they spell enemablasted for you at NoGamesMania.»

>>96072004 (OP)
I don't know and I want to try to give an answer to this nice thread. Maybe even though full-narrative theatre of mind games are common with their PbTA or one-page-games, RPGs are still founded on rolled die, tables, and simple math. So giving +1 to Elf's Intellect, -1 to Gnome's Willpower and +2 to Orc's Charisma is a way to add variety in the game.

>>96072181
>do I choose the racial enemy of my people, who got his degree and his position because of other Oy Yeys or the woman of my race, who had to at least perform on par with the Jew to have any shot at this?

>>96072181
Ok, and? You are still proving the point.

The Jewish diaspora is well established as preferable doctors, because as an ethnoculture, that is one of the profession s that they have been pigeonholed into (remember, surgeons are historically in the west seen as lesser to a physician until the 1700s) for centuries, and this excel at it.

Thankyou for agreeing with me.

Id take the nig surgeon. I worked in an OR and our best trauma surgeon was a black guy. He didn't have the best grades but as he said to "you can train a monkey to cut with enough practice, you just need the surgeon when things go wrong. Fortunately I'm so good at cutting things don't go wrong", really surgery programs are selective for the highest grades and then residency often shows that the guys who barely made it into the program are the best because it isn't what you know, its 3d visualization skills, hand eye coordination and nerves/sociopathy that make you a good surgeon.

>>96072004 (OP)
Woke Tourist Alert!

However I give you a real answer, the same reason why cat and dogs are seen as different. Or a 6'6 240 man is different from a 5' 120 woman would be different at running jumping and lifting. The biggest problem with current age woke leaning games is pushing every fantasy race as just humans with a unique feature and maybe a gimmick to push them over a "normal" human.

>>96072004 (OP)
>Yes, I do base my racial stat templates on the Völkertafel. What about it?

>>96072383
>Or a 6'6 240 man is different from a 5' 120 woman would be different at running jumping and lifting.
Isn't that why you take different stats during point buy in the first place?

>Why do modern RPGs still do this? Isn't everyone equal?

D&D 5.5e, Draw Steel, and Daggerheart all have no species-based core statistic bonuses.

Path/Starfinder 2e still does, but a default rule lets any player completely ignore them and instead take a more generic set of boosts.

>>96072552
>>96072004 (OP)
GURPS is the only RPG that still does it. GURPS furries has templates for Megafauna Cat Girls, though I don't know if it also has templates for domesticated ones...

>>96072004 (OP)
>Why do modern RPGs still do this?
Which even still do?

>>96072383
This has nothing to do with game mechanics.

>>96072503
Yes, but let's say 10 is what is seen as the "baseline normal" Some races are going to normally be a 11 or 12 due to their racial bonus then over buying a point or two on it.

>>96072064
I know in PF2E humans are default OP

Kinda funny that human fighter farmer bob is the intended the space marine of the game

>>96072383
One of the more interesting things about creating different species in Genesys is that the rules clearly explain that base 10 is human average, if you want to make something better at any given stat or skill you have to make it worse at the stat or skill that is the opposite (or close enough to it) and any unique traits they have must incur a negative trait that is just as debilitating as the positive one is helpful.

In short, nothing is "human but better" it is worse than human in X way but better in Y way.

>>96072703
Fighters are the most busted mother fuckers on Earth in Savage Pathfinder, but since it requires knowing the edges like the back of your hand to play them well, nobody uses them.