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>Thread Question:
What was the most enjoyable game you had lately?

>Community Summary of Wargames:
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>List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
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>ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

>/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/

>Naval wargaming stuff:
https://pastebin.com/LcD16k7s

>Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gdvadj7t6l5w6/Aero_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon%20Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/j962ws6h50bqj/Victory_Games

>New Trove Link
https://mega.nz/folder/19kUXC6T#U31scUNwyuVI8cHvX6GIgQ

>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>AK-47 Republic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6v39gcjode5ln/Insanely_Based_AK-47_Republic_Folder
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f8a58xjysyweaz8/Black+Powder+Rulebook.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Flames of War
https://mega.nz/folder/lc1SRajQ#QTDXthNFG-sDoYe08bhV9A
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>GMT
https://mega.nz/#F!D1dHQZCJ!V9pYq0CUc4iCrNiOcBOBtg
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>The Perfect Captain
http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/captain.html
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf

>>96073968 (OP)
The Destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem painted by Francesco Hayez, amazing painting. I have a large framed copy of this one in my hobby room (for symbolic reasons) (I'm incredibly anti-Semitic)

>>96074045
May we roll dice together on the ruins of Jerusalem one day anon. Really great post, not gonna lie.

>>96073968 (OP)
TQ: We played Valour and Fortitude based on the Battle of Maida. It didn't play out entirely historically, but the British - per history - managed to put effective fire onto an advancing French column - and subsequently turned a flank and were able to break through to the rear area, harrassing supply trains and leading to a general rout of French (and allied) forces.

>>96074428
>Scaleking.
They will seethe because they can't stop you.

Do you guys have any opinion on Victrix Pillage or is it too soon to discuss it?

>>96074631
I was unimpressed myself when I did read about it in two French papers but at least one anon here played it and had a good time and another did read the whole rulebook and found it serviceable.

There's two different copies on Telegram and one anon dropped one of these here so you can read it and make your own opinion.

>>96074045
>>96074294
>it's a Nazis are so insecure they have to pee on the lamp post thread

I stopped interacting with most North American gamers because they turn out to be low IQ skinheads time and again. Save it for /pol/

Some thoughts on a Bolt Action campaign, cont'd from last thread

>The map is used to source Advantages for your units in the individual games of Bolt Action
>There are two sources of Advantages: Having a larger force attack a smaller force on the map (does not actually grant a force disparity in the game) and having a force with supplies attack one cut off from its logistics
>Advantages include stuff like picking part of the scenario, manipulating the turn order, and getting rules from the Optional Rules section of the 3E rulebook like minefields, night fighting, fortifications, etc
Could be fun. Hoping for map rules i can keep very short and sweet, ideally on two pages of paper.

>>96073968 (OP)
You forgot to add new Rick Roll Trove:
https://mega.nz/folder/78pF0CYI#Jc2IO8IQVwRDP1Chwr_iGA

>>96073968 (OP)
>What was the most enjoyable game you had lately?
Last night's Pillage game, my Saxons fighting off Viking raiders. I'll batrep it later.

>>96078055
Oh, and before I forget, the Pillage rules. Enjoy.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10sTAqh0lQAXShfid8NYw9xemsUPhgQdw/view?usp=sharing

>>96078067
>265mb
You guys are giving me trust issues.

>>96078067
Pillage rules are in The Rick Roll trove, fucking retard.

>>96078102
Only 50mb here:
https://mega.nz/folder/78pF0CYI#Jc2IO8IQVwRDP1Chwr_iGA
Is there someone not retarded here?

>>96078170
>>96078176
Why are you so mad? I already had the 50mb version, that's why I got sus about the 250mb one. It's probably nothing and you should be grateful that Anon is sharing, bitch. For the future reference - if you want shit to be added to OP, simply anchor it by replying to the OP post in the previous thread.

>>96078187
Who wants to share anything with guys like you?

>>96078218
Well apparently some people do as this thread proved just a few minutes ago? Are you dense? Are you having a stroke by any chance?

>>96075874
Hey dementianon
Did you know you don't have to be a nazi to hate the Christ killers?

>>96078102
>>96078176
>>96078170
Sorry about that, it's the version I was handed by my mate, who was in turn gifted it by someone else. I just wanted to share it with you guys too. It seems clean, I've got it on my phone and pc and there's been no adverse effects.

>>96078170
No need to be a cunt about things mate.

>>96078279
>Christ killers
Yep, I'm not a nazi and I hate romans because they have killed a jew.

>>96078359
I am not sure how experienced you are with pirating PDFs and digital books in general but I always recommend sending them to the PDF Share Thread friends first so the file can be cleaned and all the digital watermarks and metadata removed. I don't expect any trouble in 99,99% cases but once every decade one of the companies gets anal and will track you down at least to ban your account or whatever.

>>96078279
Kek. You recognized him too? He's so alone in his outdated SJW crusade. Peak 1968 flower-power boomer. I don't know why the jannies let him try and steer a shitstorm every single thread, it's pretty obvious he's the minority here and should learn to let it slide.

Speaking of Crusade, I'd like to start a game of Outremer wihin few month. Anyone here got first hands experience? I know Osprey Blue Books are a mixed bag so I'd rather have some feedback first.

>>96075874
Seethe and cope about it

Speaking of Jerusalem and semites, does anyone make Jewish miniatures for the Roman-Jewish war? That sounds like a cool project of enjoy

>>96078477
Incorrect too many times to bother replying, please enjoy this placeholder.

hmm, what color/ scheme do you think I should paint my last foot knight?

also, anyone know how to get rid of this feild of veiw effect on iphone when taking model pics? or is that a physical limitation of the lense?

>>96080454
White and black. If he's wearing a jupon make it checkered

>>96080454
Pink and purple. If he's wearing a jupon draw a rainbow.

>>96080683
I wonder what makes people post stuff like this. It's not funny enough to elicit any laughs, it's not offensive enough to elicit any anger or reaction. If I wasn't writing this right now it works be totally ignored and forgotten. It's just a complete waste of the posters time, I didn't get it

>>96080610
uh, anonymouse...

>>96080846
It made me almost smile.

Im thinking maybe blue and white. with the white being an eagle.

>>96074631
Looks good to me and I would love to try, if I find someone to play.

>>96080939
That guy's not visible in your first pic. Anyways, do what you want since these guys aren't historical anyways, you use them for Oathmark and Rangers of Shadowdeep

>>96078176
Thx. This is updated version? I heard they had some errors in first print.

>>96081067
Well, I want to use them for historicals. Just no one here plays them. So might As well use minis for what I can.

Anyways, they are mostly historically realistic. about 1/2 of them have real heraldry and the other half are plausible heraldries. green guy next to checkered guy is Lewis Robessart squire of henry 5th

I decided on mister blue with silver eagle.

>>96078890
You know, it's pretty fun he didn't bother replying to your post but did for another that he deemed wrong and useless. Maybe you're on to something?

>>96078897
I know of a Bronze Age era maker but none for your request. As far as I know though, they were quite Hellenized by then and a Dead Sea scroll describes an ideal (((army))) as 7 ranks deep hoplites, about 750 horses for each flanks if memory serves and 200 lighter cav for each phalanx. Skirmishers would mainly be slingers.

>>96081067
You have autism and should seek help. First he's using this force for both Historical and Fantasy, plus he didn't ask as much for accuracy as for being burnt out of inspiration for now and being friendly.

>>96080939
I'll go red and cream as the Mediterranean scallop because he's a former pilgrim of the Way of St James and owe his actual life to it.

>>96081782
>three (You)s in one post
Let's go

>>96081782
red and cream is a good color scheme

cream in general is underrated. Its a really complementary secondary color. Always liked how it looked on dark angles next to their dark green.

>>96081386
hmm, im not sure about the brown belt, maybe go back to white, thoughts?

think im going back to white. It will stand out more after the wash anyways, which was my concern at first with the white on steel.

>>96081792
Nice, you got me there anon. This free one is on me. :^)

>>96081901
Thanks, I'll pretend I'm okay I posted too late. Looking at your whole force a bit of blue won't hurt.

>>96078897
Oddly enough no one does except one boomer that makes extremely dated sculpts in his garage. You would have to convert minis which shouldn't be hard. Just take a side cutter and snip off the tips on minis.

>>96082333
>>96078897
I dont think the jew revolt jews have a particularly iconic look. especially since it was a revolt, not like a professional army.

Just put little yamakas on peasents or some shit./

>>96082357
I think you can add beards and those silly side curls with modelling clay. Use the plastic Roman plebs by Wargames Atlantic/Footsore, metal civilians and skirmishers by Foundry and any unarmored types with javelins really. The Jews mostly just used bucklers, thureos shields and captured Roman equipment while armed with slings, javelins, bows, spears, daggers and some swords. They were extremely outclassed by professional troops, they lost their field army to a Roman troop of cavalry that just rode the entire army down. Thousands of Jewish light infantry cut down by cavalry alone. After that it was just mopping up the different forts and towns. Small naval battle too in the dead sea where the Jews where exterminated. The second revolt was better prepared but that was also mostly just the Romans besieging forts and various towns while exterminating Jews that murdered their Goyim neighbors. It's hard to ever feel sympathetic to the Jews when they were extremely xenophobic pieces of shit that always tried to genocide their neighbors.

>>96082437
I respect genocidals like the jews.

>>96078897
WGA just released these , they should work pretty well for what you need them to represent

>>96082437
Yeah good thing there's no more genocide going on. Massive relief.

>>96078067

Thanks, King.

>>96078897
actual response, i know that WGA has some stl's for jewish revolt stuff
They look pretty nice too, its by one of their better sculptors

>>96078067
still in the process of reading through the book, will probably try and use victrix islamic cavalry for some magyars desu. Also waiting on the scots and especially the carolingians to drop

>>96082922
>>96078067
really like how that chainmail looks.

>>96082979
I'm not trying to be rude, and I know you mean well, but if these are some of WGAs "better" sculpts than I can see what /awg/ is talking about

Ok, put the last men at arms in and here is my army set up for playing oathmark. I just need to paint 1 more cavalry and I will also have enough to play lion rampant. (there are 4 painted minis off screen, 5 including the unpainted cavalryman)

>>96083613
nah i mean if you dont like them thats fine
I still stick by them being some of their better sculpts
Overall i dont really like WGA, especially after i got their late romans kit which has legitimately one of THE worst loss of details ive seen in a plastic kit. The faces on most (but not all weirdly) of the heads are unusable

>>96083786
>nazis shitting up threads for attention as usual
>oh well

Only their werewolves set pissed me off lol
Never again
Otherwise I think it might just be a case of needing to enforce "show me" ie if we talk about models we should post them given we have now concluded all manufacturers are terrible and we hate wargaming. Even if it's from a manufacturer website, just post a picture ofwhat you're talking about because this is an imageboard and we have ritualistically devolved into chanting monks who are like:

>wga hath offended the Lord
>yea and amen
>warlord shall be expunged from christendom
>aaaamennnnn
>north star are the children of the goat
>omnibus maximus penguinus deiiiiiiii

Out of genuine curiosity as a newfag to historicals why does this thread seem to hate Flames of War? I came in from 40k and find it plays ridiculously better

is it because it's baby's first historical or is there something else on the go

>>96085143
picrel I did up some E8's with custom applique because i can't stand how the stuff that comes in the battlefront kit is just Creighton Abrams and his stupid horse

obviously just primed so far

>>96085143
Allegedly it has a really strong bias in favor of the Wermacht and with the Soviets being ahistorically bad individually while also outnumbered by the Wermacht. Also, parking lot syndrome apparently.

>>96085158
In my experience the Soviet issue is basically a late-war ism, me and my friends play a mix of mid and late and have more allied players than krauts, and I find the mid war soviets have way less of the issues plaguing late ones (IS-2's and T-34's with good ratings are super overpriced, is a big one)

Outside of the Soviets kinda getting the short end of the late war stick (and they do still have viable lists, just not what you'd go to immediately if you think bagration/berlin timeframe) late war's decently balanced, and mid plays fine as well

>>96085180
Also haven't really run into static armour on armour games either if that's what we're calling parking lot simulator

I run a stupid ahistorical T26E5/Applique armour Sherman formation (belton cooper suck my cock) with infantry in support without things being too static

>>96080846
>I wonder what makes people post stuff like this.
Same for your post

>>96085143
Whilst I've not played it, I have seen it played, and the 'parking lot' meme holds true. Ranks of tanks parked track to track blasting away at each other over what are absurdly short ranges for the size if the minis in use, occasionally sending some shots into infantry.
It's also got some very weird, meme based, army traits/rules that are just poor form. Alleged Wehrmacht bias as well, but that's par for course for American written ww2 games.

>>96080846
Have you never encountered a boomer trying to be funny?

>>96085219
Tank parking lot refers to tank miniatures being pretty much in base contact. It's not so much about being static, just about the unit density being too high for the miniature scale.

Like, I want at least a little bit of space between my vehicles in a WW2 game. They're not macedonian pikemen. I think if you played it at 6 or 3mm it would look a lot better on the table.

>going away again for a month
>going to miss painting and playing with my minis
i will have a game tonight and post the AAR

>>96085875
Could you bring some unpainted minis and paints with you?

>>96083613
WGA plastics are okay for the most part with some really bad sets in between. But their digital stuff is bad for the most part, with only some good sets in between.
They do some niches that nobody else does (historical stuff) and they do add-on sets to their plastic stuff (the sci-fi sets mostly, which is nice because it fleshes out the range), but if you compare some of their digital sculpts with pretty much any other digital sculpts of a similar topic, they just look worse.

>>96082993
Carolingian chad too here, how long are we to wait?

Printed and painting up some World Wars era houses in 28mm.

>>96086255
Very nice, housing looking good, albeit a little small. I would have printed them at 115% or maybe even 120% scale, which is what I usually do with terrain STLs since everyone has a habit of making them smaller than I'd like. Anyways, if you spray them with a mat varnish it will help get rid of the slightly glossy FDM look. Really nice color on the brick rubble

Ukrainian SOF engaging Russian VDV in CQB during attempts to reclaim Antonov airport

>>96086405
There'll be a gloss varnish to protect them and then a matt varnish to dull them down again after.

These were originally sized for 15mm and I scaled them up to 180% to print for 28mm. Could've done 200, but I think this is probably close enough to work.

>>96086453
The left one looks just right, it's really only the right house which is a little small, but it's good for Bolt Action. The houses Warlord sells are really small too

>>96086473
Figure it was some sort of squalid shack for Italian peasants before a stray 25 pounder shell put them out of their misery. But yeah it looks like it was deliberately evoking the Warlord house ruins.

>>96084019
heres that visual aid you ordered anon

>>96086451
Harden your heart VDV!

Are you enjoying COC2?

>>96086941
All the pro Ukraine shills always make fun of the VDV but they fought like hell in Hostomel Airport despite being abandoned by Russian high command

>>96087334
You dont need to be pro-ukraine to make fun of the russians in that war. They fucked it up completely on so many levels. But sure, on troop level, the guys are not to blame, nor are they cowards.

>>96087334
>fought like hell
qrd?

>>96086006
Soon tm.

>>96087542
>They fucked it up completely on so many levels.
Sure, but wise man would wait till after the war, so far they gained more than they lost.

>>96087728
They also gained more than they lost in the Winter War against the Finns, but nobody would say it was a successful war for the Soviets.

>>96087623
>VDV get sent on surprise raid to seize Antonov airport right next to Kiev
>the airport is undefended, VDV are supposed to briefly hold it while Russian planes shuttle in Tanks and troops to the airport, meanwhile a armored column advanced south from Belarus to relieve the VDV
>US intelligence warns Ukraine one day prior that the airport is likely to be raided the following day
>Ukraine staged national guard equipped with MANPADS, AA guns, armored vehicles at the airport, and staged a large QRF of Ukraine SOF and mechanized brigade nearby.
>Ukraine stages armor and heavy defenses along the route from Belarus
>VDV helicopters arrive at the airport and face heavy fire, struggle to land under intense AA and rocket fire
>Many Mi-8 transport choppers are shot down, which accounts for most of the VDV casualties during the assault
>once the VDV dismount they quickly mop us the airport defenders, destroy the majority of the national guard presence and seize the airport
>VDV hold the airport and fight off waves of armored vehicles, mechanized infantry and Ukraine SOF from the QRF
>The air strip is destroyed in the fighting so Russia cannot land planes and the LZ is too hot anyways
>the Belarus armored column faces heavy resistance from the pre staged Ukraine defenses
>the lightly armed VDV are out of single use rockets and low on ammo
>reinforcements never arrive from Belarus
>the VDV eventually make a fighting retreat to a nearby woodland

It's basically the 2022 version of Market Garden with a lightly armed paratroopers force getting slowly exhausted while waiting for armored reinforcements that never arrive

>>96087728
>they gained more than they lost
10 times more people in three years than 10 years of Afgan?

>>96087789
Afghanistan was a low intensity asymmetric war against 3rd world peasants, how are you genuinely going to compare the two in good faith?

>>96087781
Honestly on paper the Russian strategy made a lot of sense and I think there was a high chance it would have worked would it not have been for the meddling of the CIA and US deep state. Had Russia secured the air bridge and Ukraine not dumped a bunch of troops into Kiev the day prior I think Russia would have succeeded

>>96086955
What does CoC do differently that BA that could make me switch over?

>>96086955
link to PDF?

Finished the american half of the BotB starter set, now it's time to actually play. Was fun to paint a vehicle and do some serious weathering, and the troops were a quick and simple job.

>>96088406
Looks really good, simple easy paint jobs are the best. Vehicle is ridiculously small tho

>>96086955
what actually changed between the editions anon? Sell me on it.

>>96087884
The problem really was russias overconfidence. Those troops arrived in kiev completely unnoticed by them, and thus could surprise them completely.

>>96088425
I agree. Nice looking guys, but a Tamiya 1:48 Greyhound would be so much better looking next to them.

>>96073968 (OP)
Anyone got the Kriegsspiel 22 PDF?

>>96087964
Being historical.

>>96089264
Ah, so you have nothing of value to actually input. Guess I'll stick to BA

>>96087781
the early days were so kino compared to the shite now

>>96087683
Two more weeks?

>>96087781
They should make this into a movie An Air Bridge Too Far

>>96089316
Nowadays we still get some kino like gangs of assault biker squads and Russian Special Forces ambushes deep behind enemy lines in Ghillie suits, but mostly it's just loads of cherry picked Ukrainian drones footage seeing unarmed men killed

>>96089264
you never played either, am i right?

>>96085143
>>96085158
>>96085180
its unhistorical and full of meme rules and stupid shit like being able to see through enemy units to hit infantry hiding behind tanks, i could excuse that if it was for balancing buuuuut.

Balance sucks depending on what book is fighting what book because of the massive powercreep that hit late war so something like d-day germany vs usa is balanced but bulge germany vs d-day americans is hilariously lopsided even though all late-war books are supposed to be balanced against eachother. late war soviets are utter shit and only have a select few good options most of which are elite so your ironically going to run smaller lists while nations like germany can work with almost anything and have an almost endless amount of cheese lists or criminally undercosted units. mid war is better but theres still many many units that are just worse off than others for the same price no reason but dynamic points fixes most balance issues.

TLDR
late war has book powercreep
>late war soviets have few good options
late war germany has a shitload of bullshit op options
>many units cost the same as others while being worse in almost every way
mid war without dynamic points has tank destroyers and light tanks costing pennies while medium tanks cost an arm and a leg and infantry are utterly worthless especially soviet infantry
units that have better morale are priced the same as units that are harder to hit even though morale is less valuable to have

Whipping up fresh batch of Ukrainians

>>96089272
Yes, please do. Did you think this is /v/ where people REEE at edition wars? If you want to play a meme game it's your time and money mate.

>>96090173
Reddit status?

>>96090415
I spent half this thread simping for Russia and the VDV just to get called a pro-ukraine redditor..

>>96089603
Hey dude if you want to shoot stuff with a nebelwerfer on a ridiculously compressed 28mm scale that is basically 40k with a ww2 skin on it, feel fre to do so. But don't get offended when people call your game unhistorical in the historical wargaming thread.

>>96090676
I didn't. Asking for Reddit status is akin to asking how many dead redditors and is a really Z thing to do. It's an old tradition from back when the Reddit volunteers training center in Ukraine was bombed because some faggot wanted to brag on socials and got everyone tracked and found.

>>96085143
There are just better games out there like battlegroup or chain of command.
Flames of war doesn't try to be historical, it tries to sell as many plastic tanks as possible, and thats fine, the models are great. It's just that those are better used with better games.

>>96089910
The owner of the company has a huge personal grudge with anything soviet related in real life, and has stated that in his game soviets are meant to be this joke version.

>>96091114
>battlegroup
I played Battlegroup at a convention and idk if it was just the group of boomers I was playing with or the rules themselves, but it was the least fun I've ever had playing a tabletop wargame

>>96089447
That must be why the contact line doesn't move much

>>96086844

>>96091921
Contact line doesn't move much because it's attritional trench warfare all over again, except this time tanks are easily countered

>>96091921
you know its bad when even the warlord model has crisper detail

>>96092570
>translation: all of these models are reasonably similar, credit to Warlord for their excellent Marian kit

>>96091921
WGA is worse than I thought. Anyways, this pic is mildly inspiring. What are some small skirmish sized 28mm Roman sword and sandal games? Id like to paint up some Romans but not more than a couple dozen

>>96093150
TO BE FAIR i think their late romans are one of their worst examples, but IMO WGA's "bar" is pretty low down compared to victrix or even warlord (atleast counting just BA infantry)

>>96091114
>>96091142
>>96089910

These all seem like pretty reasonable complaints about how the game's more game-y than you'd want and has some balance issues (I've never had real issues into krauts but I also never leave home without 90mm's and stormtrooper really is fucking silly)

Parking lot comes from the best way to maintain tank unit cohesion being basically a fucking movement tray, so I can see how that would get on your nerves if you wanted more realistic combat and maneuver
On my end, coming in from 30k/40k it feels a lot less gamey than those systems (obviously, I suppose) and I've had a lot more fun with it, though that's going to be subjective: I'm a war thunder fag so selling me more plastic armour is not a problem in the slightest.

Here, 105mm and some torsion bars before I go

>>96094044
Pretty based and reasonable take, i def like my historicals to be somewhat game-y but i do see some of them being far too game-y or abstracted
Some people really complain about BA (especially 3rd) usually about it being too "game-y" but honestly i wish BA went more in the direction of stuff like the maus (not science fiction. plausible and historically relevant, but not purely "historical" as in it was never really deployed. But give me more stuff like that, more prototypes, more rare vehicles, hell, give MUCH more options for captured vehicles)
For me its more about using history as a grounded base for my game, rather than playing the game to recreate history

>>96094666
I like Bolt Action's system and including the weird stuff is sensible, yeah. I do like Konflikt '47, so I don't mind the niche gimmick stuff.

Got a game on wednesday, my Brits against Germans. Printed the guy a panther and three Panzer IIs too, since he's only got a Panzer IV so far.

>>96094044
To me, the parking lot issue comes a lot from the size of the tables. Distances, despite smaller scale, are still too small. But that's true for all games. Answer would be, huge ass tables, but that is very impractical, so there has to be a compromise.

>>96087964
different kind of activation
not tournament based
campaign play for full experience (it makes you care about your little toy guys)

good thing you can actually try using models and terrain from BA

Reminder that Russians are sub-human and deserve to be genocided.
t. great grand-father shot Russians during the continuation war

>>96080939
missed scrub minis from imperfections step

>>96094044
Also take in mind range compression, ww2 engagements happened mostly between 600 to 1200m that is way more than a 180x120cm table.
Most games have some compression, but then fow and BA units can only engage at suicidal ranges, like so close both sides can smell each other sooner than actually being able to shoot.
It looks terrible on the table.

>>96095103
This is why I considered playing 6mm Bolt Action, but went for 28mm instead because there was a local group.

>>96094044
well the thing about krauts is that you wont notice the bullshit OP stuff if your friend just takes casual well rounded lists like tigers and standard infantry but if they start cramming 1/2 point AA halftracks that counter infantry armored cars and aircraft while being cheaper than those units into their lists or brigade panthers at 7 points or training tigers at 9 points a pop then it starts to get out of hand.

Like I said it depends on army comp and matchup but germany has the most overperforming units across all books. its not to say everything they have is better or other nations dont have overperforming units either americans for example can get close in power but generally their casual lists will always come out strong and their competitive lists can get extremely OP compared to something like soviets where just taking T-34s and standard rifle companies is a shit idea and are reliant on using the same few good units.

midwar with dynamic points does however fix most issues and soviets are very playable unlike latewar.

>>96094857I wonder what makes people post stuff like this. It's not funny enough to elicit any laughs, it's not offensive enough to elicit any anger or reaction. If I wasn't writing this right now it works be totally ignored and forgotten. It's just a complete waste of the posters time, I didn't get it

>>96097440
He's just a drone repeating what he's read on reddit and /pol/ countless times

>>96095103
That's what I like about Asymmetric Warfare, it's based off "range intervals" so models can basically shoot across the entire table but suppression effect and accuracy degrade progressively at certain intervals depending on the gun

>>96097440
>>96097497
I'm merely signaling to the ziggers here that they can fuck off and kill themselves.

It's funny how easy it is to spot a /pol/tard, they simply can't resist using their slop buzzwords even when in police company. Terminally online syndrome

>>96098008
This, but you can also find this with old facebook boomers. they are terminally online too, but its even more sad.

Go back to your discord if you're so offended that people don't agree to your bad company.

>>96094857
he probably shot hohols as well
russians are niggers and ukrainians are their brothers

>>96098308
Probably did. Do you have this Pepe but wearing Ferrero Raffaello?

Some hate Warlords, some hate Jews, some hate FOW, some hate russians, some hate Wargames Atlantic, all hate frenchs...
Is there someone here that loves something?

>>96098528
And I forgot the one who hates boomers...

>>96098528
Nah, the French are cool. Only perfidious Brits are constantly seething about the French, maybe it's because the French has been making them look like fools for all of history? I'm not sure.

>>96098558
the British cant reconcile the fact that the French have been the dominate military and cultural force throughout the entire middle ages and early modern

Some of you guys are really annoying. Not the based Rocher poster though.

>>96099580
>Rocher?

>>96098959
>>96098558
This is a headscratcher. During this period the British were expanding into an imperial power and were beating France from Malpaquet to Quatres Bras. I think for many of you /hwg/ is just another purchasable skin.

Besides, after that period Britain and France were consistently allies, there are Anglophile and Francophile strains ofculture in each, it's almost like these two nations are destined to be intertwined by proximity.

>>96098528
I am honestly really mostly pleased with tabletop in 2025.

>>96098008
I never look at other boards but even checking TV they are there, making everything about Hitler. If you want to laugh read their interactiobs on lgbt where they come to simultaneously abuse and flirt with teh gays of various stripe because they are lonely. They are the bottom 20% and they are very, very angry

>>96100029
I never go to other boards either but when I started my Russian Ukraine war project I went on /k/ to ask a few questions related to Russian tactics and weapons and I went on /pol/ to adk some questions cause they have several Ukraine generals. On /k/, I'm not making this up, you will genuinely get an immediate 3 day ban for posting anything that is even remotely sympathetic to Russia or not glazing Ukraine. On /pol/ if you post anything that's slightly sympathetic to Russia or not glazing Ukraine they immediate spazz out and start spamming DEAD ZIGGER gore and everyone will, very unironically, accuse you of being a paid Russian shill from India.
It's truly absurd and I'm convinced these people are very mentally ill, and not in the cool way, and terminally online

Put together a force for my Bolt Action game tomorrow night. It's the other guy's first 1000 point game, so I'm softballing him a bit by not taking a Forward Artillery Observer even though I'm British. The Bren carrier is running as a Wasp with flamethrower, and hopefully it won't run out of fuel with the first shot this time.

Will be up against Germans for some good North Africa action.

>>96100421
What's this shit

>>96100697
Those are infantry

>>96100945
Why are they street shidders

>>96101204
Explain

>>96101207
>explain

>>96101246
This did not clarify anything. Please explain.

>>96101204
>local man upset to learn about WORLD war 2

This may be upsetting, so sit down...those German helmets you love polishing so much were also worn by Chinese lads fighting the Axis.

>>96100421
Good work anon, my only criticism would be to tidy up those bases just a bit. Otherwise looks awesome. Love the terrain too. I have relatives from the 8th still out there in the Libyan desert. One was a Lieutenant who sacrificed himself fighting the DAK so his men could escape.

Funnily enough it was the Australians who gave the Germans the first land defeat of the war and they did the same to the Japanese within months.

>>96101482
NOOOOOOO

>>96101513
You know what, I've been putting off tidying up the base rims. I'm gonna do that now.

>>96101524
Top man. Then they will be spot on

>>96100697
bro charge your phone before you start complaining about someone else POSTING THEIR PAINTED MODELS

Base rims painted

>>96101814
Also, to answer the actual question that prompted this: I chose to include Indian troops because of this art, which i thought was really cool.

>>96094666
>>96095103
>>96097020
I can see where you guys are coming from with the range compression and gimmick talk: but my first exposure to actually playing toy soldiers was fuckin 40k so going to something with one or two silly game-y mechanics isn't a big deal for me: I am also here more for the modelling and wargaming than any actual historical recreation: i like these units and want to use them and haven't had many issues with the system, and 40k puts fucking strategic long range assets on a two meter battlefield all the time (and is getting far worse for arty and aircraft)

I agree on the midwar w/ dynamic points as well: I'd run my sherman assault company (the one with T14's and early 75mm's) a few games before i realized i was paying like four or five extra points per tank and it made my list way more usable: also find midwar soviets to be fun to play into since they flip the tank dynamic on even a tiger (IS-85's are scary, wish we had KV-85's anywhere but alas)

I really haven't run into a cunty german player yet since our kraut guys want to play stuff like static infantry units with stug support (i cannot convince him to print stug IV's) or bagration mechanized lists (strong but not horseshit to deal with), and my primary late war list is a bunch of HVSS 76's with extra armour and a platoon jumbo, backed up by T26E5 pershing jumbos anyway

i might still turn into the douchebag german player though

>>96102069
list for context:
Bulge: American - T26E5 support - [100 pts]

++ Standard ++ [100 pts],
Formations [64 pts],
M4 Sherman (Late) Tank Company [64 pts]:
• 1x M4 Sherman (Late) Tank Company HQ (LU181) [15 pts]:
• 1x 2x M4 Sherman (late 75mm) [15 pts]: 2x Uparmoured M4 Easy Eight, 2x M4 Easy Eight (76mm)
• 2x M4 Sherman (Late) Tank Platoon (LU182) [20 pts]:
• 1x 3x M4 Sherman (late 75mm) [20 pts]: 2x Uparmoured M4 Easy Eight, 1x M4 Jumbo (75mm), 2x M4 Easy Eight (76mm)
• 1x Armoured 81mm Mortar Platoon (LU113) [2 pts]:
• 1x 3x M4 (81mm mortar) [2 pts]
• 1x M4 Sherman (Calliope) Tank Platoon (LU186) [7 pts]:
• 1x 3x M4 Sherman (Calliope) [7 pts]: 3x M4 Sherman (Early) (Calliope)

Support Units [5 pts],
M8 Greyhound Cavalry Recon Patrol (LU174) or M5 Stuart Cavalry Recon Patrol (LU231) [3 pts]:
• 1x M8 Greyhound Cavalry Recon Patrol (LU174) [3 pts]:
• 1x 1x M8 Greyhound (37mm), 1x Jeep (MG) [LU107], 1x Jeep (60mm mortar) [LU107] [3 pts]
M15 & M16 AAA Platoon (LU179) [2 pts]:
• 1x 1x M15 (37mm & .50 cal), 1x M16 (Quad .50 cal) [2 pts]

Command Cards [1 pts],
LVT-4 Amtrac Transport [1 pts]
M4 Sherman (Early) Calliope
Uparmoured M4 Easy Eight
Uparmoured M4 Sherman (Late)

Formation Support [30 pts],
Battle Weary Rifle Platoon (LU206) [8 pts]:
• 1x 7x M1 Garand rifle team, 1x M1 Bazooka team [8 pts]: 2x Additional M1919 LMG
• 1x M26 Assault Pershing Tank Platoon [LU602] [22 pts]:
• 1x 2x M26 Assault Pershing (90mm) [22 pts]


here they are squared off against some KT's in a battle of "neither of us can harm the other frontally"

>>96087789
>he thinks Russians care about such trivialise

>>96102085
Anyone play any pacific yet btw? curious how the japs will do since i'm kinda holding out hope they get a late war book (i wanna do ho-ki or ho-ha mechanized japs with some chi-to in support, have some discount nipponese panzergrens)

>>96102085
>all the tanks neatly lined up in their units
>huge anime figure wall
Its honestly not that ba-
>drink on the playing area
nvm its shit

fr though PERSONALLY i just dont like smaller scales since each of those units could just be 1 model and not have the side by side issue
Good on ya for posting your games AND a fully terrain'd board though

>>96102135
FWIW, hard surfaced table: I literally cleared placing my sippe on it with buddy since the rest of his basement is full shelves or shrine: wildly fucking nice table though, his fucking street lamps work.

Also we're really bad for parking lot because this is before turn 1

I wound up losing this one to his king tigers being on an objective about half a turn before I was on his and killing everything in position to contest it one more turn

I forget scenario but it was a basic meeting engagement one.

>>96102092
They don't, but that does not make it a win or success.

>>96102135
I agree on the "one unit" abstraction, but how much do you hate fun during your games?

>>96100327
Did you try one of the /chug/ threads on /pol/? It's the place for ziggers to discuss the war without mentally ill pro-Ukrainians thinking that spamming gore and violence on POW will somehow win them hearts and minds.

It's been like 3 years since the SMO though so maybe every thread is slow, dead and retarded anyway.

>>96102262
oh that was just my personal reasons for not really liking smaller scales, i prefer smaller skirmish games but like, i can see the appeal.
Overall i prefer the game being fun than it being "true historical" or "competetive"
Like, part of the reason i despised 40k was because of how unappealing looking the 9th and 10th edition large unit chains were, and how unfun and gamey it would be

>>96102336
Yeah I went on /chug/ once and I didn't get any real answers, it devolved into me getting made fun of for having an American flag. Just another reminder that nothing constructive comes that that board

Anyone know who sells 28mm Cold war era spec ops models or commandos or something? Like 70s or 80s? I'm not looking for anything specific, just a vague idea of what I want

>>96103772
https://www.empressminiatures.com/cold-war-baor---early-1980s-131-c.asp

>>96086955
No, and the fact that I have the first one still unplayed on my shelf makes me like it even less.

I remember people making a huge FAQ for the first one, so here's hoping the new edition is the same thing but unfucked.

>>96091084
>back when the Reddit volunteers training center in Ukraine was bombed because some faggot wanted to brag on socials and got everyone tracked and found.
Oh hey, I remember that! I hope the faggot responsible was personally bombed in the process.

>>96104150
It was so fun y when that happened. It was hilarious to see a bunch of redditors realize real time that war isn't like their video games. What was even funnier was the NATO Afghanistan vets from the US, UK, Australia, etc. realize that fighting peer to peer modern military force is nothing like killing illiterate Muslim peasants

>>96098008
>even when in police company
I know it was probably a typo, but thanks for this mental image.

>>96100327
>On /k/, I'm not making this up, you will genuinely get an immediate 3 day ban for posting anything that is even remotely sympathetic to Russia or not glazing Ukraine.
/k/ is regularly raided by ziggers, including state funded ones, so if you happened to go there right after something in Russia blew up you probably got caught in counter-battery fire.

>>96104348
>>96104348
>/k/ is regularly raided by ziggers, including state funded ones
Meds.

There is literally an ongoing pro-Russian general on /pol/ ever since the attack. You can find it in the catalog at all times.

Also, there's quite a few rusposters who will gleefully spam pics of dead toddlers while spamming hohol death and such. Anon is either a cherry picking faggot or hasn't been on /pol/ for longer than a pair of days if he thinks pro-ukie posters are worse desu.

>>96104695
>>96104719
>/pol/tard rushing to the defense of Ukraine and /pol/
Yeah you're right, I haven't spent more than a couple days on /pol/, and that's a good thing. maybe that's why I havent contracted the brain rot yet

>>96104780
>that's a good thing
Well yeah, I agree. I wish I wasn't an edgy contrarian retard 2-3 years who used to post on /chug/ either. Nowadays I don't visit that board much, except for visiting a humour thread once in a while. It's just that I think it's safe to assume you don't know much about the board's actual culture and allegiance since you've been on there for such a short amount of time.

Anyone have or know where I can get the Spectre Operations v2 supplements for zombies and jungle warfare?

If they were still available I would just buy them

>>96105051
Who sells this Hitler model? Based

>>96105119
crocked dice

>>96105051
Based reference to that tongue and cheek super agent show. ah, forgot its name. Hitler had a voltron robot and won at handball and the super team leader had a head of an eagle

>>96104719
Nah, you're out of the loop on this one. I told anon to check /chug/ for ziggers: /chug/ stands for "Comfy Happening Ukraine General". It's "comfy" because no gore is allowed. /chug/ is a split from /hug/ where gore spam was and still is the norm.

Ukkies capitalized on regime change from the very start and therefore need gore to traumatize the Russian population and discourage volunteers since full mobilization isn't on yet. It's unbearable for any lurkers but they're slavs and don't realize westerners value human lives so here we go.
Ziggers capitalize on Putin's big brother narrative and need to throw ten gloves off and red line crossing warnings per day plus legitimize any bombing as being in reaction to whatever. So you'll usually have no gore on /chug/ as it's officialy bad optics per their own doctrine.

That being said, again, being this late into the SMO I don't believe anon could get anything useful ever from /hug/ or /chug/ anyway.

>>96105518
Danger 5

Of possible interest?

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/pre-order-skirmish-in-a-box-skm1-napoleonic-french-and-spanish/

Amicalement
Armand

>>96106128
Yes this is one of the most KINO boxes Perry has ever released

are there any historicals companies which make ancient or medieval minis in basically monopose rank and flank poses like pic related?

I think the style is way more appealing than dynamic poses that you get from victrix

>>96106890
fuck off back to /wfg/ with your AoS CADslop you faggot, this is Perry Miniatures territory

>>96106911
I'm asking whether there are companies that make historical miniatures in similar poses for the purposes of ranking up?? what has that got to do with CAD?

>>96105675
>legitimize

They can always go home

>>96106890
Most historical miniatures, not being GW, are posable.

>>96106890
Only GW makes monopose shite

>>96107141
>monopose shite

why would you want your block of infantry all swinging their weapons in random directions...

>>96107172
Why can't you pose your models to rank up?

>>96107181
well I'm asking for recommendations of companies that make models that can rank up. like I said, I only know victrix and their minis aren't able to be posed like that

>>96107236
This is such a broad question as to be ridiculous. Your criteria isn't setting, nation or era, but specifically whether they can be individually based and ranked up.

Victrix, being posable, can be ranked up. This is a troll question like most on here

>>96107003
Ukraine is rightful property of the Russian empire, and always has been. The current state of Ukraine has only existed since 1991, and the current government was created in 2014. It's a fake country and Russia has a rightful blood and soil claim to it

>>96106890
Perry Miniatures

>>96107236
Depends on the models. I believe you're being disingenuous because you asked for ancients and all of Victrix ancients ranges are designed with the intent of being ranked up. You're referencing their vikings and shit which were designed with skirmish games in mind.

>>96107251
I literally said in the first question, ancient or medieval

and no, victrix aren't poseable. they have bodies in fixed, dynamic poses.

>>96107253
No, you're retarded.

>>96107273
>ancient or medieval

Ffs
So basically you want any miniatures
What are you planning on doing with them?

>>96107003
I agree with you but now try and roleplay yourself into Putin having to say that to his top rank officers without suffering a coup, or your population manifesting for more accountability, or semi independant regions acting straigth up autonomous, or major powers like USA, China or EU treating you like their bitch boy.
The SMO failed and here he is, finding it easier to throw more Russian kids into the grinder than having to deal with a total defeat on full display for everybody to profit.

The lad cornered himself and slav lives are cheap so he'll piss away as much as needed. In the age of globalization you can always replace your dwindling workforce by a virtually infinite supply of Indians anyway.

>>96107283
Not an argument

>>96107253
If you're not (me) tell the poster you're replying to that (you) are a different anon. That's basic etiquette.

>>96107324
Putin is definitely more important than hundreds of thousands od people.

>>96107291
I don't get what the problem asking for ancient and medieval as a set. In most rules they're lumped together. It makes sense that if a company makes the sort of miniatures I'm after, they would likely make them for that whole period.

>>96107345
Not looking for one and neither is your thesis, which is deranged and American.

>>96107369
Can you please answer the question so we can help you? Is this autism? What is your project

>>96107387
It's just a retarded Warhammer drone, not much more too it

>>96107387
I don't have a specific project. I want to browse some miniatures and see which ones appeal to me

>>96107356
Kek. Nice roleplaying Putin himself there, that's the spirit. You aced it anon: top score. Didn't know you'll really give it a try.

Captcha:2PP4U

>>96107414
>>96107409
>>96107417
You're always posting garbage in other threads at the same dinner time slot, what do you even get out of this lol

>>96107414
So you want to know what models exist in the broadest possible category for something you're not going to do. Just look yourself

>>96107443
Meds.

>>96107480
It applies to all you time wasters. This isn't a surrogate for the hobby

>>96107495
It seems to me you're asshurt you got owned by so many anons

>>96107517
When that happens you'll be the first to know. Annoying people engaged in the hobby is a poor sublimation of the hobby

>>96107351
I would never tell anon that I am a different poster. maximum ambiguity is maximum 4chan. (btw I am (you))

>>96107480
It's even worse than he might think. Hope meds will help.

>>96107607
/hwg/?

>>96107615
It stands for Historical Wargames General. It's in the title. What are you even doing here?! If you want to engage in this hobby you peole will have to read.

>>96107659
No I'm aware of that, I mean to ask, what do these petty exchanges do for the thread or yoyrhobby generally? Do you get a little dopamine hit at the idea of razzing someone up, or have you figured that most people here don't care about the /pol/ view of history, does making the board unusable and shitting up every nin 40k thread help your hobby in some way?

What periods and games and minis are you into? What's your answer to the Thread Question? This tit for tat around the time most Burgers are doing the washing up doesn't get to me, it makes me more determined to claw back this board for the actual topic thatpeople who want to be motivated and informed use it.

>>96107974
>me, an innocent american, wife in the kitchen washing up, somehow take a stray round
come on bro I was on your side

>>96108040
It is as I suspected
I shall return to this documentary and tidying my hobby space

https://youtu.be/4u8BHTX7zIk?feature=shared

stop replying to them, report, and talk about your recent games or models

>>96108448
Peninsular Warchads, we eatin' good.

I promised myself no more than four settings, sci fi, one blackpowder, fantasy, one swords and boards.

I have peninsular war akirmish and the start of a gothic and late roman bash so this really rounds things out. Each project I want to more or less do to completion with a few individually based figures for A Fistful of Lead (well, 1-3 teams of 5) where I'm leaning into the kitbashing and even sneaking in some anachronidtic details and painting weirder colour scheme variations.

Most of my other units are 2-4 figures on multibases.

Somehow, the Boxer Rebellion snuck in as did some WW1 Russians to paint as the Tsar's Legation. I might paint a unit of Red Army too.

Just slowly building my pile and wondering where to start, will use the sci fi and fantasy stuff as a reward because there's less planning.

That's me for 2025 though if I can get a good feel for what printing is like for Historichads I might add that quiver to my bow once the garage is more sorted. I spent a lot on printers for a friend who promptly never sent me anything and barely used them. I'm a bit oversaturated with mean spirited people of /tg/ - I come here for a quiet chat. Preferably apolitical and on topic

>>96108448
El linko
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/pre-order-skirmish-in-a-box-skm1-napoleonic-french-and-spanish/

https://youtu.be/IIbDoAvtuuc?feature=shared

>>96108860
Already posted here >>96106128

>>96108993
Yes, we are discussing it in any case.

>>96108855
Ditch the soi-fi and fagtasy shit and go all in with hist.
For me I have too many periods and wars I'm interested in that I have to really reign myself in to not start 50 new projects and never finish any. Thankfully though I've developed a pretty good habit of going all in on one project at a time and not starting a new one until well after I've fully finished painting the current one.

>>96109051
Well, I quite enjoy a skirmish game with my own fluff so I will continue to do that. I have more historical mnis than fictional ones at this point and generally prefer a documentary to a lore video and prefer to read history so those fictional games remain a palette cleanser.

Other than my 19th centuty and dark ages fixations I'm being very well behaved.

>>96109051
I tell you what is tempting me, is the Perry Franco Prussian War range. I just finished watching The Prisoner of Zenda and was thinking I'll make some of those Bavarians into Ruritanians haha

>>96093150
Clash of Spears seems to be popular

>>96109133
I have too many things tempting me.

I've been wanting to do Samurai in 28mm, but also Samurai in 10mm, I want to do Perry Franco Prussian, Rhodesian Bush War, I'd like to do some Garlic War Romans, but also I really want to do Late Romans, I want to do Italian Wars or the Swabian War, I've wanted to do Napoleonic for years but idk where to start and what scale so i never started, I'd like to do some cold War gone hot stuff in maybe 15 or 20mm ... God so many things but I know I'll never do most of them.

>>96109391
Italian Wars is where it's at man

>>96108855
to be ever so slightly fair, HISTORY isnt apolitical
that being said i think its only topical to talk about the politics of the time in a fairly apolitical way, and only as it pertains to the topics of the games (like discussing the politics of the war of the roses is fine)

Somewhere in Sicily, the British 8th Army engages a force of Germans.

The British brought a regular rifle platoon, a section of 25 pounders, a Wasp flamethrower carrier, and a trio of SAS jeeps. The Germans brought an understrength mixed platoon of veteran infantry, a Panzer IV, an outdated but still potent Panzer II, and an armored car.

>>96110008
When the flamethrower carrier failed to push German infantry off this ruined house, a squad of Indians in a lend-lease half track moved up to support them, quickly developing into a slog.

>>96110027
That ended up decided by the timely arrival of the SAS, whose machine gun fire broke the German infantry, giving the Indians a chance to kill the German officer in a brutal melee.

>>96110039
Meanwhile, the Panzer II had used its speed to flank the royal artillery, killing one gun's crew, while the Panzer IV engaged the other head on, killing the crew with a well placed HE shell but throwing a track for its trouble.

We called the game not long after this. The British had killed most of the German infantry and immobilized their medium tank, and a full strength section of infantry was going to start banging on the hatches. The Germans really only had a single Panzer II left.

Was a fun game.

I really want to get into AK47, but armies are so damn expensive.

Any cheap-ish 15mm modern African mini suppliers? Khurasan?

>>96109799
Oh sure but it's not just the blue haired who suffer from presentism and find actual history anathema, plenty of fishing vests too.

>>96110055
Looking great.

>>96110565
Peter Pig
https://www.peterpig.co.uk/17%20%20AK47.html

>>96109391
>Garlic war
Smelly!

>>96111429
>Garlic Wars
>Italians vs French
KINO

Sherman troops in Normandy would smother a Tiger or Panther tank with HE rounds, as they had no faith in their AP shells. Time and time again, this tactic worked well, immobilizing the heavier German tanks, smashing optics, and sometimes causing spalling on the inside of the vehicle. All of which tended to make the crew bail out, after which they were machine gunned.

Does your game represent this? or are Shermans with the 75mm generally unable to deal with Tigers or Panthers from the front?
From reading "Tank Action" (albeit this was a British Sherman troop - not sure if tactic was used by the US or Canadians), it seems to be their main way of dealing with heavier armor, right up until 1945. Fireflies did help, but they were a little ungainly, and had to strap their gun down and face backwards when moving long distance - they were generally employed as overwatch or as a reserve brought up when the Shermans encountered a heavy target.
Another interesting tactic from this book is commanders dismounting and walking their tanks through difficult terrain and scouting out enemies, although this was often fatal for the commander...

>>96110027
Street shidders vs the mysterious grey men

>>96111981
>mysterious grey men
It's not grey, it's a great rendition of german feldgrau uniform

>>96110008
BA is so silly, artillery should never be on a table that small shooting at that short range.

>>96110039
Look at the size of the seat in the jeep relative to the infantry. It's like a clown car, no one would even fit in that car

>>96112058
I'll concede that the ranges are compressed for gameplay, but the 25 pounder howitzer was equipped with an AT shell that let it serve in a direct fire role like an infantry AT gun, so it firing direct at relatively short range isn't unusual.

Plus, the left one did get outflanked and its crew killed by a tank, which is the natural consequence of them being this close to the front.

>>96112058
There are countless instances of artillery having to defend themselves in cqc and direct firing at tanks while aiming over the barrel

>>96110008
The houses you've been working on look good on the tabletop pajeet bro! Hope they were fun to play with in your game. Really a road would bring it all together, maybe a crossroad

>>96112152
Great news on that front, roads in production as we speak.

>>96112199
The eventual goal is this shape, probably with a church or something in the middle.

>>96112219
Interesting choice

>>96115169
I figure there's no better option for slowing down American armored vehicles than a roundabout. It'll hold up a tank column for hours, maybe days.

I'll also be able to make loads of other shapes since they aren't connected to each other.

>>96115721
Make sure you link them together with some masking tape or something when you set them up for your game, I have a river that's made of little flat printed tiles like this and it's very annoying they slide around if you bump them, quickly taping them together fixes it

>>96115735
Ooh, that's a good idea, thanks. I have a set of river files I plan to use too, but they have clips to hold them to each other.

if (or when) hungary gets an expanded list for BA (likely in the next "forces of the axis" book, since italy is no longer the front runner of that and is going solo), what more could they even add? i have to imagine they'd add some of the hungarian prototype tanks like the 44m Tas and the toldi 3 or turan 3.

Ok, finally nearing the end, here is the full 60 models, all of them from the perry english army box, Agincourt cavalry box, and the one sprew of french infantry I got off ebay. All I need to do now is base and finish that one cavalry with the banner in the back and Im done with the project. Enough now to play a full game of lion rampant. 12 unit infantries, 6 unit cavalries

>>96117013
You the same guy with the pajeet british North African army?

>>96117044
no. why?

dont think I have any moderns....

Just painted up some Russian BMP crew, for some scenarios where they have to bail

>>96117063
Your based just look the same as his

>>96117071
What game is this for?

>>96117078
Asymmetric Warfare/Spectre Operations v2

I'm not very well versed in historical wargames beyond knowing the names of the more popular ones. There is one segment of history I've always enjoyed, and was wondering if anyone knew if there are any historical war games catering to small scale surface naval actions in the pacific in 1942-43?

>>96117187
For sure there is, but it's not my area so I can't give a good answer. Someone will surely come by who can give you a good suggestion

>>96117078
>bases
ah, maybe we use the same product. Dry ground from ... Ak dioramas or something?

>>96117044
>>96117412
I use sand from a California beach.

>>96117187
Yeah the Warlord Games pacific fleet game is not too bad. You could play Nimitz by Sam Mustafa. You could even adapt that Wylie book game of the Coral Sea.

>>96117013
Nicingtons

>>96117461
Well done. Today I discovered I have mostly enough of my favourite base sizes (25 and 32mm round, 40mm and 60mm rounded square) tidying up the garage, and a lot of moveemnt trays oddly. Not sure what past me was planning but thanks for reading my blogpost.

HAVE NOTIFIED THE MRS
Only requests between now and the end of the year
>wga dark age army builder
*victrix heavy cavalry and armoured saxon inf
>the perry napoleonic skirmish box

I normally spend what I want but man it has been a hard year.

>>96117502
>>96117266
Thanks for the responses.

>>96117516
On Amazon there's a publisher called Minden / Gary Graeber has published some naval games. Not 100% sure he does ww2 but I have his ww1 and russo japanese naval gamebooks and they have lots of useful things like ship ratings etc. You can play with just the book and paper and dice but you could easily adapt them to minis

The Wikipedia page on Kangaroo APCs claims the British 8th Army made some by removing the turrets and ammo stowage from Shermans. Might use some for my Punjabs, because the squad in the M3 half track performed really well last night and I'd love if they didn't have fi be scared of APCs. Plus, going full mechanized infantry is the late war British's most unique thing.

>>96117803
>have fi be scared of APCs
*have to be scared of anti-tank rifles
I need to not phonepost.

>>96117044
You're awfully butthurt over that guy's models.

>>96117955
I don't think that was butthurt guy, he seems incapable of not reeing about street shitting. I guess I'm just Punjab Giy here. Makes about as much sense as /btg/ calling me Map Campaign Anon when I haven't run a map campaign lately.

>>96074631
Looks like an alternative to SAGA that I'll try approximately one time.

>>96118122
oh youre map campaign anon? i remember seeing you in btg when i used to browse there before the thread became unbearable

>>96118427
Yeah, Battletech is basically a future-historical, so it's no surprise I'd end up here. I am back on my bullshit though in that I've just made a fairly rules light campaign system that can work with any map and game.

>>96100327

Mark takacs on YouTube has pretty good videos about russian tactics in the Russo-ukrainian war.

>>96118212
>an alternative to SAGA
An alternative between a french rules and a french rules... that sucks

>>96074631
I think the bagged up warbands are pretty cool. Honestly I am going to get John Lambshead's One Hour Medieval Skirmish instead. Kuch more playable with my non gamer friends, I have so many damned skirmish rules sets I gave a stack of books away.

Probably be difficult to separate wheat from chaff with a scale discussion on /hwg/ but if I like to make really nice terrain can I still get away with individually based 15mm WWII? I played on a big table with 15mm FoW based models the other day and it has me concerned that it's not really going to work, that figures are going to be lost in the clutter.

Sucks because I don't do stuff quickly and I want a single scale solution for WWII.

>>96118814
I think it should be even easier with the smaller footprint desu

US 2nd Armored Division, all tanks with black camo?

>>96118827
It's not the terrain or dressing of tables it's the concern about the little infantry figures getting misplaced or overlooked around or within the terrain during the action. I went back and looked at a Storm of Steel batrep as I know he uses 15mm and his terrain is fairly workmanlike.

>>96118928
That does sound like a concern, yeah. I'd keep my infantry together on multiple model bases.

>>96117013
Good job anon, you've made steady progress. Way faster than me and my Sengoku Jidai buntai. I blame the absurd amount of details like extra pouches, belts, jewels and stuff.

I'm constrained by money but I'll really love to throw myself into some rather plain and straigth to the point minis like yours to make for a nice break. Hopefully Victrix release their Carolingian patrol soon enough, but truly, I was missing my long time ago Bondi and Hirdmen in simple clothes.

>>96117078
Their bases are really differents. Pajeet anon bases are super flat and dull with a brighter color. I'm not blaming him: I don't care one bit and use clear acrylic bases myself so have no higher ground to look down on anyone. Just stating the obvious.

>>96119115
>Pajeet anon bases are super flat and dull with a brighter color.
I looked at photos of the Western Desert and "flat, dull, bright colored" was pretty much exactly the aesthetic, and a lot of what I read emphasized the utter featurelessness of most of it.

>>96118928
I always do a bit of both. Truthfully. 1 5 man team based individually per multibased box of minis

>>96119123
Sand tends to make ripples due to the wind carving through it but no big deal mate. A dry dead bush or twig, a spare ammo clip on the ground or whatever on a mini or two wouldn't hurt either. As I said I use clear acrylic bases so I'm in no position to be haughty but since you did go through the effort to make these bases, you might as well give it the last final touch and break uniformity here and there. But if you call it done just call it done, I wouldn't loose sleep over it and I'm sure they look even better in the non-flesh.

>>96119164
If that works pretty well for skirmish play I might carry on then
If I had the money time and drive I'd go two scales but I know that would be a poor use of my time and money

>>96119408
I've been thinking of adding some desert tufts, maybe a few rocks. Also, since the Punjab thing is apparently my defining characteristic, I'm thinking that I'll lead into it. Ordered some of these guys for K47 last week and I'm considering giving them turban wearing bearded heads, possibly under the helmets. No reason to think the 7th Indian Division wouldn't get heavy infantry gear too.

>>96119484
(Forgot to add picture)

>>96119484
Don't overdue the tuft thing. You're absolutely right it's mostly featureless. Go with a desert rose for one, a tuft for another, a clip here, a twig there and call it a day for the rest of the troopers?

>>96119432
My logic is this, a real skirmish game is 1 figure = 1 operational unit.

So when I build an army for any setting or period I always use the same basing convention: 40mm squares with two figures in loose order such as skirmishers, warband, archers and mounted figures, three in close order like spears, blades, drilled muskets and four if horde or levy. So all my units have a 5 base footprint meaning most units are 15 men. Special units are usually 10. But the footprint is the same. I can do a sixth frame with a unit filler or casualty or some little vignette of some barrels and dice frame for tracking details. This allows for a rhombus if the game really demands it.

Most of my armies are just 3-4 units of this size but it's so much faster than movement trays or individually based figures and looks great.

>>96119618
So any timeyou buy a box of minis, just lay aside 5-10 for two "teams" where you can kitbash, experiment with paint a little, and then multibase the majority and stick to the plan more. The free based guys can also then represent runnners, detached skirmishers, heroes, casualties, disarrayed stragglers etc

>>96118814
Paint your base rims bright colours to differentiate squads: that way they stick out a little amidst the terrain and also stay easily organized so you can figure out who's who after transit or if the squads get mixed up on the field

>>96119982
So like all of Able squad has blue rims, Baker has red, Charlie a yellow, Dog has orange, and so on and so forth

>>96117502
thankingtons
>>96119115
Thanks! Hey, you'll get there with your sengoku jidai stuff, and tbf, I speedpainted (but not with speedpaints) a lot of my units.
> Carolingian patrol
oh that sounds interesting, dont see many carolingian stuff out there.
>constrained by money
sucks. though thats part of the reason I got into historicals. The english army + agincourt knits + french infantry ran me like 80 bucks together and I bout each like 2 weeks between each other. (35 +35 + 10)


As a side not Id love to see a battle report of an early 1400's western army like mine vs an army of the early sengoku jidai, would be epic.

>>96120074
https://youtu.be/xm8zCiZdzsg?feature=shared

Not bad

>>96087781
I recall the VDV got slaughtered when they did have a brief window to attack from the airbase. (Those famous crossroad ambush photos of the corpse strewn BMDs.)

>>96120127
I really want to like WGA digital. But they make it so hard for me to do that. I ranted about it on /awg/ a few weeks back already, so i dont want to repeat all my points, but most of their sets feel so rushed and sloppy.

>>96118697
Pillage seems to barely be a historical game. Do the French just not care about accuracy or historical flavor, then? Every French ruleset I've come across has so much bullshit written into it. Other than SAGA the other that comes to mind would be ADLG which is equally rubbish.

any love for Wooden Ships and Iron Men?

>>96121378
How would you make it more flavourful?

hello does anyone here play warhammer ancient battles?

I want to give it a go after getting into TOW

LETS GOOO!

OK, now actually done. All set up in the standard english battle formation. Archers at the sides with some kind of cover (in this case stakes) Heavy infantry sturdily in the center with lighter armed retinue surrounding them. A few heavy cav where the overall commander also is in the back who can dismount to help the press of melee, or chase down routed foes. and a group of mounted archers who can deploy somewhere else to add more missle pressure or also help attack routed enemies.

>>96124532
Heavy infantry front line of men at arms

>>96124578
one of the archer wings

>>96124611
Heavy cav reserve

>>96118458
Any chance you'll share that light campaign system of yours? Saves me the trouble of foraging through a bunch of games to frankenstein my own monster.

Game I made when my power went out for 14 hours. worked bretty good

>>96105051
Is that dog smoking?

>>96105758
thats it, thanks

>>96125399
I think it's gnawing on a jewish bone so it's circumcized?

>>96121603
I have a set in my closet and love it, but I haven't gotten it on the table in years. I mostly just love the genre.

>>96125039
Here you go.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13t1qa2ELlY85Yj0_eQT7WxaKmifkaksTcHZeuAvwEWY/edit?usp=sharing

Extremely simple at its core, but for any game you want to play it with you'll have to come up with your own set of Advantages. Picture unrelated.

>>96126872
Thanks, I'll give it a read this week-end.

>>96126103
Any favorite / memorable scenarios? I’ve been interested in naval war games for years and just picked up a set as it seemed like a low barrier to entry and I found the old rules for solo play in case I can’t get others to try it out with me. I’m looking forward to replaying the battle of lake Champlain and some pirate engagements

>>96082437
>Small naval battle too in the dead sea
what ships the jews used?

>ASL starter packs are now 100 dollars + by resellers
>as much as the main modules
>email the publisher
>yeah we're going to reprint, someday ;)
I did get the first starter pack real cheap on ebay. Almost as low as the retail price. That was a fluke.

>>96130147
>we're going to reprint, someday
ASL starter kits are a real success, but MMP has chosen recently to print their games in China.
So, because of the retarded Jeffrey Epstein's friend, the publisher encounters some problems to print new games.
You just have to wait a bit for other modules but I guess they will be a bit more expensive.

>>96130747
They were like this before the tariff talk too. Assuming those resellers who are marking it up 300% are actually selling copies, you'd think they'd prioritize keeping the smaller starter kits in stock. At least in stock more often. I'd imagine there's a decent number of people who want to dip their toes into something like ASL but aren't willing to drop 140 dollars on one of the big core modules. Is there a public list anywhere of their current printing queue?

would you recommend the Warlord or Victrix macedonian phalangites?

>>96132787
In this case, warlord takes the win

What's the historical wargame that actually sees most table time for you guys?
And which one do you pull out when you're introducing someone to the hobby?

>>96134216
Bolt Action and Bolt Action

Do you think Lion Rampant would work with Saga model counts? 8 and 4 models per unit instead of 12 and 6?