If this picture were painted today Conan and Elric would be swapped out for Jon Snow and Astarion and that's fucking depressing.

Who would your personal top six be? No more than two characters per setting please, yes we know you like Warhammer.

The villains in the sister piece are an underwhelming bunch

>>96087897 (OP)
>If this picture were painted today Conan and Elric would be swapped out for Jon Snow and Astarion and that's fucking depressing.
Bold of you to assume that little would change. All of those except Gandolf and Arthur would go, and Arthur would look like this.

What a garbage thread
Don't you have anything else to be proud in your life instead of being born before a certain date?
Fuck off ack to Faceberg to complain about how everything new is garbage

>>96087897 (OP)
Corwin of Amber
Croaker
Jilly Coppercorn
Sir Able of the High Heart
King Arthur
Aragorn

I think that covers the fantasy series I've ever bothered rereading. Calling Arthur "fantasy" is nonsense but whatever; he's in the original so he gets to stay.

>>96088024
>t. 2008

>>96087897 (OP)
who is the bloke with two swords and the cat?

>>96088105
Moonglum maybe?

>>96088105
The local lord

>>96087897 (OP)
>Who would your personal top six be? No more than two characters per setting please
Local Lord
Touhoufag
Whatismagicfag
Generic Warhammer Sloptuber
Jon Snow
Astarion

Sam Vimes. Guts. Edward Elric. Gottrek and/or Felix. Minsk (I know most people here don't care for BG3 but I think on the whole the series has earned it). Ramza Beoulve (from the one true fantasy version of the War of the Roses).

>>96088206
>only 1 from an actual book
Illiteracy detected.

>>96088206

If Drizzit gets his panther Gotrek's probably allowed Felix

>>96088008

>Bold of you to assume that little would change. All of those except Gandolf and Arthur would go, and Arthur would look like this.

Drizzt's still the FR mascot, and Robin Hood's as popular now as he was in 1993 (not especially, but he continues to get a film or tv show about him a couple of times a decade)

>>96087897 (OP)
>le new is... le bad!
Kill yourself.

>>96088231
So, is Sam Vimes or Gotrek not from an actual book?
And if you're willing to stretch the definition, mangas and novelizations are books

>>96088105
>not recognizing Mullet Drizzt

>>96088520
Comics, video games, little toy men and cartoons. Jesus christ.

>>96088578
Answer the question.

>>96088595
Who cares? Hell sure, anon. Count it as two if that somehow makes you feel better. That means only four of the six characters you named are from cartoons, comic books and video games. Illiteracy is a serious problem.

>>96087897 (OP)
Why are you wasting your time imagining scenarios you hate? What the fuck is the point? Also Elric is shit. No I do not mean "overrated".

>>96088605
Im not that anon, just tired of "things I grew up with are better than things YOU grew up with!" bullshit. Let's not pretend that Conan, Drizzt and Elric are something especially highbrow.

>>96088706
>just tired of "things I grew up with are better than things YOU grew up with!" bullshit
So you intentionally entered a thread made on that exact premise?
Interesting.

>>96088706
>Im not that anon, just tired of "things I grew up with are better than things YOU grew up with!" bullshit. Let's not pretend that Conan, Drizzt and Elric are something especially highbrow.
I'm making no such pretense. There are more fantasy novels being published today than at any point in history. Read 'em.

>>96087922
>Raistlin
>Gollum
>Lolth lady
>Nosferatu? Dracula?
Why am I not recognizing the armored guys?

>>96088756
Lord Soth and the internet tells me the other is from MtG.

>>96088746
>you can only post if you agree with OP!
I'm here to call OP a faggot.
>>96088747
I am reading, just saying that medium elitism is stupid.

>>96088802
>I am reading, just saying that medium elitism is stupid.
That's not what you were saying. And it's not. It's factually the case that reading enhances your cognitive and linguistic abilities, and cartoons, video games and comic books are just garbage that numbs your brain.

>>96088814
>It's factually the case
Care to show the studies? Genuine question.

>>96088833
Google "impact of X on cognitive function." You will find plenty.

Bella Swan
Celaena Sardothien
Katniss Everdeen
Rose Hathaway
Scheherazade
Tris Prior

>>96088937
No worse than the fantasy for teenage boys. Good for you, anonette.

>>96087922
I get why Soth, but Daakon Blackblade? Really?

>>96088781
>Soth
Oh yeah, I recognize him now. Didn't even consider he'd put in two Dragonlance characters.

>>96088913
>Google it
>Studies show that generally all what you mentioned has positive impact on cognitive function
Curious, it's almost like fiction has the ability to stimulate your brain regardless of medium.
Also >>96087922, the followup to the OP pic, literally has a MtG character on it.

>>96089190
Hahaha. No. Absolutely none show that. But keep watching your children's cartoons, anon. I really don't care.

>>96089487
I mean, I googled despite the burden of proof being on you, and I found more evidence. But if all you can reply is "no, you're wrong because... because you are!" then fine.

>>96088008
That's just Nasu's white woman fetish character #2

>>96088141
Where's puckee the art commission spammer?

>>96088071
Able's one of the few cases of OP isekai done right imo. That said perhaps Severian is the better known and closer to "classic adventurer" (if only through bumbling violence) than the good Knight.

Corwin's real cool too!

>>96087922
He's not especially well known but Cleric from the Second Apocalypse series would be visually striking if a little morally ambiguous for a rogue's gallery. The setting's not!elves ("Nonmen" specifically) are towering, completely hairless and deranged to a soul after millennia of memories ground each other to dust. Specifically the whole "slog" arc is an homage to Blood Meridian. Judge Holden as tragic monster archmage was pretty peak.

>>96089608
>argue with me!
Eat another chreseburger buddy. It's the same thing as food. Your failures aren't my problem.

>>96088071
>Croaker
mah nigga

>>96087897 (OP)
How does any of this relate to the last game session you had, anon?

>>96087922
>No idea, Bhaal maybe?
>Lolth
>Soth
>Nosferatu
>Gollum
>Raislan
Am I right?

>>96087897 (OP)
I'm not a zoomer but who the fuck is Elric bro

>>96087897 (OP)
I don't even fucking know anyone in this picture except Gandalf and what I assume is Robin Hood.

>>96091087

All Warhammer elves if they were a single character

>>96087897 (OP)
Druss, Sparkhawk, King Arthur, Kull, King Arthur, Aragorn.

>>96088706
I think the point is that most of the characters on the "objectionable" list come from non-novel sources.

>>96087897 (OP)
>Snow
It would be mostly /v/shit, anyway, crossover thread?

>>96087897 (OP)

Elric is not really a big loss. Conan would still be there.

You are right about ASOIAF but Jon Snow wouldn't be probably the right choice. Honestly book Dany would be good but people have the TV one in mind.

As for "modern" and non-anglo entries Guts could work, but Berserk has too many lolis,

>>96088008

Funny thing is, her battle dress is probably more sensible than Conan's axe here

>>96087922

Jesus christ, leotard Lloth will haunt my nightmares

>>96091087

A nice idea with a bad execution

>>96087897 (OP)
>Dalinar
>Conan
>Gandalf
>Tavi of Calderon
>Sparhawk
>King Arthur

>>96091087
Corum's retarded cousin

>>96087897 (OP)
Also Arthur would be either fgo or monty python

>>96087897 (OP)
What would your /tg/ top six be for the villans and heroes?

>>96087897 (OP)
Traditional games?

>Grey hat
>Brown cloak
>No sword
That's a pretty poor Gandalf the Grey. Apart from the ring it's more like Fizban

>>96087897 (OP)
>If this picture were painted today Astarion
It's more depressing that you think Elmore would include a nobody from vidya

>>96091087
A lot of dark fantasy, multiverse stuff, magical talking swords with runes on them, and antihero albinos who lean on magic tend to stem from him
Not all, but a lot. Also where the Chaos symbol comes form, arguably a big reason for alignment autism in RPG's. Had his own game in the 80's too.

>>96087897 (OP)
That is such a a terrible elric.

If King Arthur is there, so should Beowulf
My personal modern addition would be Aang

>>96094201
Might as well throw Alexsnder the great on thanks to the Alexander Romance

>>96094269
You say it as if I wouldn't roll with that

>>96087897 (OP)
>Who would your personal top six be?
If just limited to fantasy:
Pecorine.
Marth.
Waver Velvet.
Aang.
Sun Quan.
Link.

>>96093230

>It's more depressing that you think Elmore would include a nobody from vidya

He's the most popular character from the most popular DnD product ever. Vampire boyfriend simulator is the brand now, fuck Drizzt and sex!Gandalf

>>96088231
The thing of it is, a lot of characters in modern fantasy literature just don't feel as memorable, do they? I kind of wanted to add something from Second Apocalypse, because I love the setting, but thinking about it I realized the characters themselves are a bit derivative. Like, here's grimdark Paul Atreides. Here's grimdark(er) Judge Holden. Maybe we're just at the point where there's nothing new to be said. The only reason to write anything anymore is just to participate.

>>96094355
Wasn't Sun Quan a real guy? I don't think that counts, even if he's best known for a highly fictionalized historical novel that involves Daoist wizards summoning storms and one of the main characters getting promoted to being the God of beans.

>>96087897 (OP)
>Who would your personal top six be?
Conan is replaced with Kratos, Drizzt probably would be replaced with Jon Snow, Elric with Guts, and Robin Hood with Link. Gandalf and Arthur stay, but Arthur is replaced with the one from FGO.

>>96087897 (OP)
Gandalf and Conan can stay, I never actually read Drizzt so while I'm sure he's cool I'd probably swap him out with Aragorn. Elric wasn't a hero and I hate Moorcock in general, so I guess Geralt since it's the same character but not a faggot. Arthur and Robin Hood can stay.

>>96087922
Anasurimbor Khellus, Durzo Blint, Logen Ninefingers, Mazrim Taim, Tywin Lannister, Raistlin can stay.

>>96087922
Is that Dakkon? He is built different, but he ain't on the same level as the rest if the roster.

>>96087897 (OP)
>Jon Snow
Maybe while the show was in full swing, but between its ending and R.R. Martin being a lazy sack of shit GoT lost everything it had going for it.

>>96087897 (OP)
I was always more of a sci-fi/adventure fan than a fantasy fan, personally.

>>96087897 (OP)
>Granny Weatherwax
>Siegfried (Wagner)
>Shou Fukan
>Eugenides (Queen’s Thief)
>Odysseus
>Link

One video game, one young adult series, one satire series, one TV show, one opera, and one classic myth. Seems like a decent spread.

>>96095806

Who are the two kids on the bottom left?

>>96095841
They're from Animorphs. The 14-or-so Black girl on the left is Cassie, who was the moral center of the team for a long time until the Godawful endgame arc that I try to forget happened when I look back on the series. Cassie was my favorite character for the simple fact that she was GOOD. Not that this stopped her from doing hard or bad things when necessary, but she at least was still willing to recognize that she was awful for doing it instead of what the other five did, which was just kind of shrug and go "that's war for you".

The 8-year-old girl you *see* on the right is Karen, but she's just the host body for the actual character I'm including, Aftran 942 of the Hett Simplat Pool, the Yeerk slug who lives in her head and controls her. In this specific scene (from Book 19, The Departure), Aftran is technically still very much a villain, but by the end of the book Cassie convinces her to free Karen, and the next time we see Aftran she's founded the Yeerk Peace Movement and it already has over a hundred members. The next time we see it after that it probably has THOUSANDS of members.

And then Applegate kind of just forgot about it in her Godawful endgame arc for the series where for all her protestations otherwise, she went for Spectacle and Message over writing a coherent story. The ending of Animorphs really depends on you being so caught up in your emotions over what's happening that you don't stop to ask, "wait, but why is this happening at all?"

>>96095928
>until the Godawful endgame arc that I try to forget happened when I look back on the series.
Hey, kids! Wanna learn about WAR CRIMES?

>>96095936
I mean the war crimes are bad (and one of the reasons I can't like Cassie anymore in the endgame is because of Jake killing 17,372 helpless people out of pure hatred, and Cassie not only not objecting, but making bullshit excuses for it, when previously she would've taken him to task or at least demanded Jake justify himself in the moment), but more it's just I don't understand why I'm supposed to feel bad for Jake when he's had the means and opportunity to save his brother from the Yeerks for YEARS, and he just...didn't do it. For no reason. His entire motivation for getting into the war was "save my brother", the universe kept handing him ways to achieve that, and not only does he not take advantage of any of them, he doesn't even CONTEMPLATE doing so.

It's like looking at someone who complains about never having any spending money so that they can go out and have a night of fun, while meanwhile they'd in the middle of painting their latest Warhammer figure. I'm not gonna feel bad for Jake's situation when Jake's only in that situation because he seemed to prefer having a Controller for a brother, over actually having his brother.

>>96095928
>>96095936
>>96096021

Animorphs sounds like some mad shit that I'm gutted to have missed out on as a kid

>>96095928
I really like the part where they sacrificed their B-team of crippled children in a completely heartless diversion plan, just ran them right up the middle of the city streets in animal form to get lasered by spaceships.

>>96096249
It seems to me that the Animorphs didn't actually need to board the Pool Ship at any point, just Erek, so that he could hack into its systems and disable it.

They also could've asked the Chee to use holograms to *simulate* an attack on the Pool Ship, which given that the Chee have previously been able, in concert, to simulate an entire valley, should've been comfortably within their capabilities.

So. Erek in the Pool Ship, disabling it. Other Chee faking an attack - the Chee can't commit violence, their programming doesn't allow it, but they're shown as perfectly capable of simulating it. Meanwhile, the Animorphs and as many of the Auxiliaries as they like, board the Blade Ship in flea morph.

Rachel doesn't have to die fighting someone else's fight. With all the Animorphs plus James' Auxiliaries, they should be able to overwhelm the morph-capable Controllers that Tom's stocked the Blade Ship with, can probably even force a surrender rather than needing to kill them all. Tom doesn't have to die.

Megamorphs 4 demonstrated that the Blade Ship can be operated by just one pilot, Ax. Ax uses the Blade Ship to take out the engines and weapons of the Pool Ship.

Et voila. When the Andalite fleet shows up, Jake can give essentially the same speech, with the only caveat being that Visser One is technically still at large, but he's at large on the disabled Pool Ship, so the Andalites can just invade and take the Pool Ship. Visser One will surrender in the face of a hopeless situation, that's just a basic facet of Yeerk psychology. Alloran still gets to be free.

Et voila. Rachel lives, Tom lives, the Auxiliaries live, Jake doesn't burn his relationship with the Chee or get a bunch of US marines and disabled children killed...

>>96092548
>Honestly book Dany would be good
God, Dany's chapters rapidly became a slog to get through. I'd have happily traded hers out for almost any other PoV. Except maybe Sam's. God, those were miserable, but we gotta have Wall PoV I guess.

>>96094597
He was a real guy. Granted, so was King Arthur... maybe.

Honestly, I struggle to find a sixth character from fantasy I really like. Sam Gewissies, perhaps. Or somebody from Full Metal Alchemist.

>>96095806
Then why is your image filled with fantasy characters?

>>96100039
Oh fuck off, no normal person would call any of what I posted fantasy. The point is I like spaceships and aliens more than I like castles and wizards.

>>96100102
It's cool if you like space fantasy more than medieval fantasy, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

>>96096498

I generally prefer ASOIAF women, if not necessarily their chapters (and anyway Dany is on Essos which is cooler, I think fatso Georgie is a decent/good worldbuilder but jesus medieval not!Europes are a dime a dozen)

That being said, I chose her because she has something more of a straight power fantasy angle. Or at least she doesn't fall THAT hard like most of the protagonists in the books.

>>96087897 (OP)
Uhh...Gandalf, Conan, Drizzle, Elric Arthur...and Aragorn? Anyways, you forgot Gandalf being swapped out for Harry Potter.
>>96087922
Wasn't Raistlin more antihero than straight up villain? It's been a while if I'm being honest.

>>96087897 (OP)
>Merlyn
>Doctor Who
>Croaker
>Corwin of Amber
>Taarna
>Optimus Prime

>>96087922
>gollum
so the archer is supposed to be aragorn? he's never mentioned using a bow in the books
also he's like 6'6''

Is that Robin Hood?

>>96094180
Thanks anon, I thought I had a decent grasp on 80s fantasy but I was very wrong.

>Kaladin
>Quintinius Verginix
>Kylar Stern
>Matthias the Warrior if suitably upscaled, otherwise Prince Caspian
>Ivanhoe
>It’s a bit modern but if I must have a wizard John Mandrake (Nathaniel). Otherwise, Beranabus.

>>96087897 (OP)
>getting mad at scenarios you made up in your head
Truly, nothing encapsulates modern /tg/ better than this thread.

>>96094788
Anon I'm not trying to be insulting here but you should probably move to San Francisco. Or join the Navy. Or both.

>>96087897 (OP)
Conan (along with Robin Hood and King Arthur, if the king and the archer are supposed to be them) would be the last of these characters to be replaced by anyone else. Literally everyone knows who Conan the Barbarian is, from ancient grandmas to pre-schoolers, even the normiest of normies know of him. Granted, most would probably think of Schwarzenegger's Conan, but still, the character is very well know, more than literally whos such as Jon Snow or Astarion will ever be. And Minsc would come well before Astarion in terms of popularity, I'd wager.

>>96089950
He’s asking for evidence dipshit. Post proof or fuck off.

>>96088105
ACTUAL dribble the dork elf.

>>96100719
Raistlin alternates between being a tortured antihero and being the most black-hearted self-serving sonofabitch imaginable. He's not trying to destroy the world or anything, but that's about all you can say in his defense.

>>96087897 (OP)
Traditional games?

>>96087897 (OP)
>Conan
>Caramon Majere
>Gotrek
>Felix
>Minsc
>Gillius Thunderhead, the dwarf from Golden Axe, the one that started my love for everything fantasy

>>96087922

Gollum and not the witch-king?

>>96094180
Elric is also partially ripping off an old albino pulp thief and Poul Anderson’s Three Hearts and Three Lions. Which was ripping off old medieval romances.

>>96087897 (OP)
>If this picture were painted today Conan and Elric would be swapped out for Jon Snow and Astarion and that's fucking depressing.

Nah, Conan is evergreen. Drizzt and Elric are the first ones out.

>>96113043
>an old albino pulp thief
who

>>96114142
Elric is obscure now but his influence is undeniable
But Drizzt? Yeah.

>>96100102
Put that autisti in his place

>>96102413
Elric started in the 50's and 60's, but most of the comic adaptations came from the 80s

>>96091087
>I'm not a zoomer but who the fuck is one of the most popular characters of his day

If you're gonna lie, tell a better lie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY2jTcmlygA&list=PLWfGw2maX1M6bFLuV7jsBrWtR3F4S2rzJ&index=1

>>96088008
You vastly overestimate Fate's relevance. And most people who do know about it care more about the loli oni or condom nurse girl than King Futarthur these days, but even those people are a vast minority compared to the people who want to be dropkicked by a eugenic horsegirl or fuck a gun

>>96087897 (OP)
>>96087922
>proto-reddit LE POP CULTURE REFRANCE IMAGE would BE DIFFERENT?!?!?!?!
>what a le heckin le tragedy!!!!!
You are a hollow being who has tried to fill the meaningless void in your soul with consumerism.

>>96116996
nta but I guess he means Monsieur Zenith the Albino because he's a thief, an albino, and he's from pulp era Sexton Blake detective stories. Thanks to being serialised in a regular publication Sexton Blake has probably had more writers write more stories about him than Sherlock Holmes has had.

>>96087897 (OP)
Gandalf, Conan, Arthur and Robin are still highly recognisable, even among normies. Elric less so, but most people who are genuinelly into fantasy do know about him. Literally never heard about Drizzt before this thread .

I would definitely switch one of them for Geralt from Witcher, he's a very popular and recognisable character now and has in fact been that way for quite a while in Slavlands.

Probably someone from GoT also deserves a spot, but I'm not very familiar with it

Discworld's Rincewind or Sam Vimes are also quite iconic characters that would fit here

>>96120029
Drizzt because Elmore's bread and butter was D&D. Arthur and Robinhood aren't fantasy characters. Yours are fine. At least they're from books.

>>96120050
Can agree about Robin Hood, but I would argue that Athurian legends could qualify as fantasy, just written 600-800 years before anyone cared about this term

>>96087897 (OP)
>Conan and Elric would be swapped out for Jon Snow and Astarion
Drizzt would be the one swapped for Astarion, Elric would be swapped for Geralt.
Anyway including Elric in "heroes of fantasy" was dumb to begin with.

>>96087897 (OP)
This picture would not be painted today because novels are a dead medium

>>96117004
I think you'd be surprised at how many millennials for whom R.A. Salvatore is the height of the fantasy writing.

>>96120086
>I would argue that Athurian legends could qualify as fantasy
Well, since you'd sound ridiculous and illiterate, I suggest that you don't argue something so flatly wrong.

>>96120328
More fantasy novels are being published than ever before. More are being read by a wider audience than ever before. These novels guide the cartoons and video games you consume because you're a bottom feeder sucking up the lowest layer of scum from the cultural swamp.

>>96087897 (OP)
>that's fucking depressing
Why?

>>96119838
Oh yeah. I think Moorcock doesn't even hide it because I think there's even a crossover between the two, or an actual Moorcock written Zenith story

I don't find Robin Hood to be a proto fantasy character

>>96120086
King Arthur is influential enough on both fantasy itself and a bunch of literature that would heavily influence the advent of fantasy, I think he deserves a spot. People still write Arthurian legend in the last 100 years
If people constantly call Journey to the West "wuxia" then Arthur deserves a seat at the (round) table

>>96087922
I like the spider girl, imagine, eight legs, seven pussies.

>>96087922
I only know who Nosferatu is.

>>96088105
Drizzt and his Onyx Battlecat. Wonderous statue? Either way the cat turns into a statue.

>>96087897 (OP)
why is Elric such a slut anyway

>>96087897 (OP)
>Harry potter
>Shadowheart
>Warrior Galadriel
>Willow
>Geralt
>Eragon
Don’t fucking at me cunts

>>96124905
Would a drider really have a pussy between each pair of legs?

>Harry potter
>REEE TRANSPHOBIA!!!11

>Eragon
>anyone remembering it in 2025

>also who tf is Willow?

>>96130168
If they had, they would have 10:
----O---- 1st pair
--O--O--
----O---- 2nd pair
--O--O--
----O---- 3rd pair
--O--O--
----O---- 4th pair

>>96130168
>>96130823
they'd just have a single epigyne.
hey, they can still give you blowjobs if you want them so bad

>>96130473
>Eragon
Despite his name being the title I had to look it up

>who tf is Willow?
From the D+ show that was so bad they pulled it from the platform. And a film from the 80s nobody remembers.

>>96130925
Eragon was huge enough 20 years ago but now I think no one cares about it
Harry Potter and ASoIaF definitely deserve a spot more than it does, Witcher too
Some anime or cartoon characters too, even
Willow(the 80's movie) is so fucking niche

>>96087897 (OP)
Siegfried, Cúchulainn, Heracles, Gilgamesh, Samson, Beowulf

>>96130823
>If they had, they would have 10
How do you figure that?
There are 8 legs in a cycle. If you represent the legs as corners of an octagon, the edges of the octagon are the positions between legs, of which there are 8.

If you allow non-adjacent pairings then you get
pic related which has 28 edges.
Either 8 if adjacent only (separated by 0 legs)
8 more if separated by 1
8 more if separated by 2
4 more if separated by 3

8, 16, 24, 28 all make sense. How did you arrive at 10?

>>96087897 (OP)
Karsa Orlong
Logan Ninefingers
Croaker
Conan
Mustrum Ridcully
Roland Deschain

>>96087922
Man, Dragonlance occupies such a weird place in my brain. All I can remember from it is the time travel arc with Raistlin and his drunk brother on the hunt for the ancient black wizard boogieman and the basics of the trew wizard groups. Other than that, I'm drawing a fucking blank. For the life of me I can't remember anything from the first main story beyond the characters from later time travel arc who debuted in it. The traumatized kender in particular

>>96087897 (OP)

>Gandalf the Grey
He can keep his spot, but if I had to replace him, I think I'd have to go with Harry Potter in terms of influencing the genre of contemporary fantasy almost as much as Lord of the Rings did during its day.
>Conan
Replace him with Guts. Conan is still fairly popular but I feel like the gritty, dark fantasy vibes are better represented by Berserk nowadays.
>Drizzt
He can stay but if I had to replace him, I'd have to say Thrall from Warcraft who helped define the modern day orc and did arguably even more than Drizzt to tell a story about a monstrous people redeeming themselves.
>Elric
I feel like Elric's spot is defined by its influence during the time. You could probably replace him with Jon Snow to represent the rise of mudcore fantasy if you really want?
>King Arthur
This one is strange to change because it pulls from the folklore and mythology that surrounds an actual person. People are still making stories about him, however, so I think you can probably keep him but replace him with Saber. I feel like Aragorn could actually represent modern views of Lord of the Ring along with the idea of a fantastical Good King.
>Robin Hood
This is meant to represent the rogue protagonist's role in fantasy. I think you could probably replace him with Ezio from Assassin's Creed or Locke Lamora.
>>96087922
Oh, this one's ass. Anyway, the six I'd go for this is Voldemort, Arthas Menethil, Griffith, Tywin Lannister, keep Gollum, and Aku.

>>96087897 (OP)
Personally, I think it would be sensible to limit the medium to western novels here, or at least ones that began as such. Not out of hate for stuff outside of it which I still consume, mind you, but because nowadays there's so many different mediums with absurdly popular stories that some of the more tonally proper "successors" would be BURIED under video game, cartoon or anime characters.

For example, while the likes of Guts from Berserk would have no trouble fitting in, it also means there's little reason to deny >>96088008 entry other than by tone alone, which would be arbitrary and unfair. And boy, it can't be denied that Fate and its interpretation of arthurian myth occupies a sizeable portion of public perception for younger audiences nowadays.

If took it seriously with no restriction, only LotR can confidently stand in the same place. Other than him, I feel like some tentative picks would include Dark Souls/Elden Ring, ASOAIAF, the Witcher, obviously Harry Potter, potentially Fate but more likely Final Fantasy, Warcraft, Percy Jackson maybe?, etc.

Well, perhaps western books is too restrictive. I'll admit, but I still think some kind of standard should be set. Which works, from which medium, from what genres (fantasy alone is absurdly broad), and according to which audience (don't forget XianXia is a thing and they dwarf everything else.)

>>96138866
Holy reddit

>>96130823

>>96088008
/ss/ when?

>>96138866
whew, utter shit opinions
never post again

>>96139536
>/ss/
but Emiya there just just looks like a white Casca from Berserk

>>96136104
Kino
Most (good) fantasy heroes stem from something else

>>96138866
If Gandfalf and Conan go then there's no fucking way Drizzt, a D&D rip off of Elric only FR nerds give a shit about, somehow stays.

>King Arthur was an actual person
Don't know whether to call this based or not
And no, some supposed Welsh warrior from Roman times doesn't count, he didn't have a wizard pal and shit.

Guts would definitely (and rightfully) be in this if it were drawn today

I don't think Saber is that huge outside of weeb circles
A fantasy nerd would know or at least be interested in Guts even if they're 50, Saber is not a staple

>>96140912
>Drizzt, a D&D rip off of Elric
...do you know anything about Drizzt beyond "dark elf"?

>>96088231
Fullmetal Alchemist is a good manga though. Arakawa's Silver Spoon is also incredibly kino.

>>96139192
>If took it seriously with no restriction, only LotR can confidently stand in the same place. Other than him, I feel like some tentative picks would include Dark Souls/Elden Ring, ASOAIAF, the Witcher, obviously Harry Potter, potentially Fate but more likely Final Fantasy, Warcraft, Percy Jackson maybe?, etc.
I think some Zelda characters would be in there. Tons of video game RPG ones too. It's still hard for me to realize that Harry Potter might be one of the biggest fantasy characters in history, even though its influence is hard to grasp(minus the most obvious one being Percy Jackson, right there).
>Well, perhaps western books is too restrictive. I'll admit, but I still think some kind of standard should be set. Which works, from which medium, from what genres (fantasy alone is absurdly broad), and according to which audience (don't forget XianXia is a thing and they dwarf everything else.)
Wuxia and xianxia are huge, old, and have very specific genre conventions enough to deserve their own painting. Unless you want to find one/two guys that can represent them all, just like how you can pick a rep for sword and sorcery or high fantasy(but I think the OP pic is supposed to be character classes, so a wuxia/xianxia guy would be the monk I guess). People itt find King Arthur to be a weird inclusion, but so would Son Wukong be and this board constantly brings him up in wuxia. He and Journey to the West characters would be honorary spots as forerunners though, so would Water Margin and older ones. And webnovels is just the Chinese version of choosing modern isekai shit. I don't think making a wuxia version would be possible unless you're Chinese/Taiwanese/Hong Kongian and at least 50.
What's arguable is where would non-Chinese characters go, from series that aren't western fantasy and wouldn't exist without any Chinese influence. Naruto and some classic shounen of that flavor are way more of Asian fantasies, and I do consider something like AtLA to be wuxia

>>96130925
Willow was fucking wonderful and the toys were awesome. We'd set them up and have skirmish battles long before I ever knew what a miniatures wargame was.

>>96138349
>red robe wizard who coughs a lot
>no one likes him 'cept the girl gully dwarf and maybe his brother
>party splits and he has fun being stage magician
>leaves party and converts to black robes
I think that's his whole story. You can add little details like he helps Tanis back stab the ruling dragon highlord and he plays with the dragon orb and he thinks Laurana's pretty but there's not that much that I recall

>>96142533
>he thinks Laurana's pretty
Everyone thinks Laurana's pretty.

>>96141836
Eh, Drizz't is more of an Elric ripoff than Geralt.

>>96142549
Have you forgotten the curse of his hourglass eyes?
"I see time as it affects all things. Human flesh withers and dies before my eyes. Flowers bloom, only to fade. Trees drop green leaves, never to regain them. In my sight, it is always winter, always night." ... Raistlin leaned forward almost unconsciously, his hand stretching out, trembling, to touch the wondrous hair that seemed possessed of a life of its own, so vibrant and luxuriant was it. Then, seeing before his eyes his own dying flesh, he withdrew his hand quickly and sank back in his chair, a bitter smile on his lips. For what Laurana did not know, could not know, was that, in looking at her, Raistlin saw the only beauty he would ever see in his lifetime. Young, by elven standards, she was untouched by death or decay, even in the mage's cursed vision.

>>96143612
Again, do you know anything about Drizzt besides “dark elf”? He’s nothing like Elric. Elric’s a reigning emperor of a decaying kingdom that he’d see returned to prominence, physically weak, is a sorcerer and a summoner, and his sword Stormbringer is cursed and must be fed souls. He’s primarily dealing with political intrigue and machinations as well as his own sword bringing doom to everything he loves.

Drizzt is the last scion of a dead noble house that he has no interest in restoring and in fact is glad is dead. He’s physically adept, has barely any magical powers or skill, and his two magical swords aren’t cursed in the slightest. Most of his problems are fairly typical adventuring fare that don’t really involve politics or intrigue at all.

The two are both moody, I guess, but Elric’s moody about bad shit he’s done and is ultimately responsible for in one way or another, while Drizzt is moody about bad shit that happens around him and which he isn’t responsible for and tries to fix.

The two are nothing alike outside of being dark elves. You might as well say Darth Vader is a ripoff of Sauron since both are dark lords.

>>96096408
Jake was not always the best strategist, and Marco's capabilities were ironically impaired by sometimes being *too* willing to "do whatever is needed" because he'd settle on awful plans assuming there are no less-awful alternatives.

>>96129400
Years of sucking Arioch's demonic cock

>>96145163
Yes, Jake reminds me of that old saying, “amateurs talk tactics; masters study logistics”. Jake was very obviously an amateur due to just how bad he was at thinking beyond his six-man team even as more and more resources became available to him.

However, my issue is more that the strategy in the book isn’t “bad”, so much as it seems expertly, lovingly crafted to inflict as much pain and hardship on his own side as possible. It is brilliant, if you assume that Jake is a sadist whose main goal was to kill his cousin, his brother, a bunch of disabled children, a bunch of marines, and to piss off the Chee forever.

I.e., if you assume that it was written by an author trying to make a War is Bad statement, rather than an author trying to write a character in accordance with how he’d acted in the past. Jake could absolutely be callous, but he wasn’t one to attempt to maximize suffering of his own side like this. And he absolutely was not a murderer.

>>96102650
>Quintinius Verginix
My man.
My dude.
My brother of an African American persuasion.
Fuck yeah.
Hell yeah brother.

>>96088747
Sorry chum, you may enjoy homoerotic deconstructions and monster porn written for women, but some of us like the actual fantasy genre.

>>96121376
I think the novels of days, like "A Court of Dragon Gangbangs" or whatever is popular on booktok are as disposable and forgettable as porn stars.

>>96146699
>>96146720
>I don't read but I'm angry that things I don't read exist
k

>>96146699
>nooo Conan and Elric are not homoerotic!!11
sure, in the stories themselves they clearly fucked women, but the art is as recognizable as the stories and the art of those two characters tends to be very homoerotic.

>>96148203
What do you mean?

>>96147624
Did I insult your favorite litrpg slot?

>>96087897 (OP)
nominating Mark from Book of Swords and Corwin from Chronicles of Amber

>>96139192

Well, Fate is a (mostly?) primary world thing set during our own time, and certainly it is with THAT Artoria, so no anyway.

(also would she be the most representative protagonist of Fate? Certainly not of contemporary fantasy VNs, saberface clones nonwithstanding)

>>96145015

Yeah, Drizzt is the most goody two shoes guy of the image group. More than the most kid-friendly representation of Robin Hood, even.
I get that nerds now are less familiar with him (nothing of great value lost), but it's kinda bizzare that he's being tought of some sort of dark anithero. Maybe it's the general dark elf edginess.

If we're sticking to novels to be consistent and trying to pick 'modern' fantasy giants, but still in the approximately swords and sorcery realm id go with

Kaladin
Logen nine fingers
Harry Potter
Jon Snow
Feyre
Geralt

>>96150075
People keep mentioning Harry, but much like Gandalf reps his series over Frodo, I'd say Dumbledore is a better fit. It could be that Gandalf reps because he's also a main character in the Hobbit I guess, but I think the point still stands.

When people talk about the HP books and its world, and if they're not distracted with teenage shipping, more often than not they'll be discussing Dumbledore's plans and influence or his relationship with the different villains rather than the passive main character that's just going through school years for 80% of the story.

>>96151408
Personally I just think about how I could've done all the other schools better than Rowling
But yeah I agree

>>96094355
>Sun Quan.
Why? He is pretty overshadowed even in China

>>96102650
>Quint
>I Am That Is
You motherfucker, I'm In. Even if personally I'd rather his son, but that's merely bias due to me discovering the series via Midnight on a stormy day.

... God, where's the time gone?